Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.
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When I open it, sure is, laying on top. No wait, it moved a little, no wait there are 2 of them!! I took them out of the meter whole and put them on the wet grass. They moved ever so slowly. It seemed like they were hibernating. But it sure makes me think of how Jim escaped.
We've got a problem here. You can't have a sick horse. Easy now (pat,pat) we're still in the wilderness here. See e? Town's just right over there.
To Horses Love. That is so beautiful. Wonderfull.
Well close your ears now Horsey somewhat because here comes some more.
This was practically the best method to treat herion overdose.
May I also suggest that she was trying to revive him, as much as it hurts, that is why the water temp was up. 60 degrees is still cold submerged.
H in mLand what i meant by almost a Stasis was, as if almost like a...
The table for time expended in the water and temperature and time survivability rate is interesting. 30+* 15 mins. 40+* half hr. 50+* 1 hr. 60+* 3 to 4 hours. Remember hypothermia can occur in 70 to 80 degree water.
You should take the watersnakes water temp. Better yet take the snakes temperature. Those kinds of critters once they reach a point, it can drop on down. Watch out.
This was practically the best method to treat herion overdose.'
Mr. Logan, you get goofier by the minute. You're claiming Pamela said things she never said and did things she never did.
NOW you're claiming Jim was kept in icewater in the bathtub for several days?? Where are you getting this shite--aside from the usual source, of course...?
Pamela admits Jim Morrison is alive.
She admitted it at least 3 times in the major news in the following years. The one I saw was on a piece of film. An interview. Done so that people could interpret for themselves what she means by saying "Jim is alive."
Just to keep this discussion honest and factual.
THE PASSPORT
The missing passport was found at the airport in Marseilles, not Paris. It was found the same weekend Jim lost it and it was returned to the Embassy in Paris immediately.
If normal procedures were followed, JDM's new passport would not have been completely processed by the time the old one was found. His replacement passport would therefore have been cancelled and the formerly missing original passport would have been returned to JDM. This all happened about two months before Jim died. So this has nothing to do with JDM's death, except that the old original passport was sent to the Admiral after Jim died. It was obviously not cancelled during Jim's lifetime.
THE DAY OF DEATH
JDM was dead when he was taken back to the apartment on July 3, 1971. The Count put him in the tub to see if he could be revived. JDM couldn't. He was dead. Pamela wasn't there when JDM's body was put in the bathtub. She got home later and found JDM dead and called the Count, who returned to the apartment to help Pamela come up with an alibi. Then the Count left France the same day.
Jim's body was never taken to the morgue. Jim's body was put on the table in the apartment by the police and firemen. From Saturday until Monday, the mortuary delivered ice to the apartment to keep his body cold until his body could be put into the coffin on Monday, July 5th.
Agnes Varda,a friend of Jim's, saw his dead body on July 3rd. To this day she will tell you that there is no doubt in her mind that Jim Morrison, lead singer of The Doors, is dead.
PAMELA "ALIVE" STATEMENTS
Pamela saying that JDM was alive after July 3, 1971 was because she was in complete grief and at times delusional. At those times she wanted to believe Jim was alive, even though she knew he was dead.
Most of the time Pamela was sure Jim was dead and she felt that she was to blame for his death, even though she wasn't.
Now let's have enough of your misinformation, Logan, and an end to the lies from that 57-58 year old, born in 1950-1951, American Indian Oregon cowboy former bricklayer who refuses to meet with or talk to any of us who actually knew James Douglas Morrison, because your cowboy knows we can prove him to be a complete fraud.
I have read your account. For those who haven't read, or watched the news, O one of Pamela's accounts was that she was with him, he had a headache and went to bathe. Also the written account where she kept him in the bath for over 3 days. Everybody knows that one.
Did they embalm him on Monday also?
Records for Bill Loyer go back only to 1970. I understand the age confusion. I have celebated several birthdays with him.
You're just P.O.d because we wouln't talk to you. Blame Gerald and the hype. I can see you read that right out of the same book I read. Or did you write one. Thanks for clarifying. We'll all go home now.
The "tavern owner" who wrote that was actually at one time the vice president of Euro Disney. He's what they'd have to call a reliable source.
Even if they are right, and I don't think they are, it sounds so heartless when they say Pam was delusional when she said Jim was alive- you should have heard how Pat Butler would write it. From all this reverence towards Pam to all of a sudden "that bitch was crazy". (And then I guess she'd say, ok DOORS where's my paycheck.)
Funny how she didn't mention the bricklayer spends his time writing and painting and is married to a retired medical doctor. Dr. Marsha has been mentioned over a dozen times here and would be quite a credible witness.
Ignoring a lifelong friend. Ignoring the two people that were the lead in to this story.
The original film shot in Eastern Oregon was hidden for over a year. He wouldn't come and see us. We specifically stated that we were to see it first in order to follow through with his idea. He ignored Jim's and my request. Finally showing up with his edited country bumpkin version. He still holds pieces of film skirting around to suit his idea of granduer. He swore we would get to see it first on his pis ant projecter. No wonder Loyer is upset. I took the little scammer up there. How do you think that lays with me.
Gerald and I were partners in 95 looking for something, riding on the name and some longtime desires.
In 98 Jimbo jumped into his big orange monster truck, with a son, warming it up after months of sitting. On the radio was Paul Harvey giving a eulogy for my Dad as they were best friends. A tribute. Saying "He was the greatest cowboy he ever knew" "if uncle Sam had a voice it would be that of Logan." Over the years quoting him and introducing him as "My friend Pete Logan the all American."
The mysterious part (ready Horse?) was my best friend Billy Wilson had been in a trance for almost a year over Jim. Not like him. Come to find out he had been delivering hay to them. Faithfully. Which is not easy in snow laden mountains in the winter. Billy's the hero. When Jim introduced himself, Billy's blood pressure shot. He was probably about ready to rip his head off. Just joking. Spun around for sure. Bill had to calm him down as Jim, without backing up.
An accomplishment that might not always be to easy. A sensible thinking man, Wilson could still take you, me , Bill and Jim all day long.
Toot toot.
Boy talk about timing.
She does have a video which I encourage her not to show. Too much of anyway. Yee Hee
Returned to some demand. it'll be awhile.
ANSWER: The Count and three other people took JDM out of the nightclub to the apartment.
2.) "one of Pamela's accounts was that she was with him, he had a headache and went to bathe. Also the written account where she kept him in the bath for over 3 days. Everybody knows that one. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"
ANSWER: Pamela wasn't there when JDM died. Three days in a bath? I'd like the source for your quote. JDM was not in any bath for three days solid at any time in his life...or death.
3.) "Did they embalm him on Monday also? Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"
ANSWER: I don't recall ever hearing about any embalming.
4.) "Records for Bill Loyer go back only to 1970. I understand the age confusion. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"
ANSWER: That means you haven't researched Loyer's records properly or thoroughly. Did he come over the border illegally? Maybe ICE should check him out. It shouldn't be hard, since you say Loyer spent time in jail starting at age 19-20 for robbery. His booking photos are on file, so are his fingerprints.😊
Btw, JDM would never do anything to get himself put into prison; not after the Miami incident and trial.
5.) "You're just P.O.d because we wouln't talk to you. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"
ANSWER: P.O.d? Far from it. LOYER'S MAKING A CLAIM HE KNOWS HE CAN'T PROVE. Loyer's afraid to talk to anybodywho knew JDM well. Loyer knows he's fighting a losing battle, because he isn't JDM. All it shows me is that Loyer continues to do anything to avoid dealing with those of us who can prove he's a fake.
6.) "I can see you read that right out of the same book I read. Or did you write one. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"
ANSWER: What I know about JDM and his death is through sources I trust; not books.
7.) "We'll all go home now.
Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"
ANSWER: Your choice. If Loyer weren't a fraud, he'd stop acting like one. When it comes to an actual showdown Loyer always disappears, instead of facing those of us who knew JDM.
Posted by Jlizard in Seymour, IN on Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 03:38 AM"
Loyer's writing and painting prove nothing, since Loyer's not JDM.
Dr. Marsha can't prove anything. She's not qualified to be a witness. She's just gullible.
No. I didn't have to do a ton of research. My sources were there when JDM died. Reasoning? You don't have to reason when you have the facts.
Gerald is your problem. So is believing Loyer. Loyer's got you conned. He learned to con in prison. I feel sorry for you. You're the perfect sucker. So is Loyer's poor wife.
Geez it doesn't hurt to look. More pictures every page. Hey if the guy wants to call himself Jim Morrison it's alright by me. To a point.
Nobody is asking for anything.