Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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My apologies.
I aint ToV or satanist, but I do enjoy reading about new exciting religious movements, that seek to propel the best people to a higher evolutionary existence. Immortality is sure attractive and important to some select individuals, and it should be.
Even Sand (the master sockpoppeteer, author-of-most-posts-here-extraordinare), wants to avoid any communication with the nutcase who posted much of the anti Tov propaganda, as obvious above. I wonder how Lu Yang will handle this rejection.
Funny how after posting here for so long, Lu Yang no longer posts on this board. He admits so himself. I wonder why he aint talking no more. Think Julian Assange. Think Benedict Arnold and Judas. When you betray a promise to your true self, the monsters your mind unleashes on you will drive you insane and negative things will happen.
Don't play with matches and you won't get burned.
I aint ToV or satanist, but I do enjoy reading about new exciting religious movements, that seek to propel the best people to a higher evolutionary existence. Immortality is sure attractive and important to some select individuals, and it should be."
That is obviously a lie.
"Even Sand (the master sockpoppeteer, author-of-most-posts-here-extraordinare)..."
There is no indication of this being the case. In the cases of sockpuppetry here, however, the posters fail to disguise their mannerism, characteristics and linguistic/intellectual failings. The ones I noticed were funnily enough either spam, badly disguised attempts at misleading, or defenders of the ToV.
"... wants to avoid any communication with the nutcase who posted much of the anti Tov propaganda, as obvious above."
The same old accusation of mental illness. It only serves to tie you to the ToV.
I have declined other such requests right from the start. You have obviously not been reading from page one.
"I wonder how Lu Yang will handle this rejection."
I am not worried.
"Funny how after posting here for so long, Lu Yang no longer posts on this board. He admits so himself. I wonder why he aint talking no more."
Maybe he has more important things to attend to.
"Think Julian Assange. Think Benedict Arnold and Judas."
Hah. I guess you didn't read my answer to your last post, Jacques. Either you are the Jacques deMolay posting a badly veiled threat last page, or someone he has been discussing it with.
Either way, Assange is accused of sexual molestation, not treason.
"When you betray a promise to your true self, the monsters your mind unleashes on you will drive you insane and negative things will happen.
Don't play with matches and you won't get burned."
Another threat. Of esoteric nature at that, which is hillarious in so many ways.
I guess you've not been informed of what Ishkur pointed out: "Beyond that, any reference to ******* as a 'traitor' needs to be eliminated. Calling him such makes us look very suspicious to say the very least.
A 'traitor' in a religious organization/secret society particularly one concerning Vampires could potentially make us look like a cult and not a very benevolent one at that."
Ooops!
For a cult full of "the best people", you sure are gullible, dimwitted and easily manipulated. I don't even have to pull your strings anymore.
per wikipedia,
"James of Molay (French: Jacques de Molay) (c. 1240/1250
Thanks. I understand. No need to apologise.
Sand did not apologize to you. Learn to read. I guess losing your self-respect and honor affected your comprehension of the English language.
Sand did not apologize to you. Learn to read. I guess losing your self-respect and honor affected your comprehension of the English language."
Actually, it was directed at Gabriel.
You are the one unable to comprehend even such a simple answer to a post right above mine. What a fine example of the masters of the human race you turned out to be, Annukai.
This, gentlemen, is what you will rub shoulders with if you choose to join their little "exclusive" club. Poor deluded fools so eager to please their masters, that they'll throw themselves into a conversation to defend their precious temple, only to make fools of themselves.
So predictable.
I came here by ways of googling temple of the vampire. What a hatchet job is being done of them here! Whatvevery one needs to know is that this isn't the official tov website. If you go in there website, you'll see that theres no cryogenics or any of that scifi bs talked here about.
Good Point and true.
However, if one joins they will soon discover all of this for themselves and it will prove most of what has been discussed here.
I think one should read all the posts here before commenting. I do realize most people hate reading or like everything spoon-fed to them yet reading the posts here will help cut down on the unnecessary redundancy and non-sense here.
If cryonics is really part of the ToV belief system, then why isn't it even mentioned in any of the bibles?
Thanks,
V
Liguascelesta does not represent or speak for anyone other than himself. His actions and ethical preferences are not representative of those who have been called to follow this path.
Do not be quick to judge an organization of hundreds of people by the juvenile antics of one person.
The real reason that Temple believers need to sign up for cryonics has not been spoken of here.
What the cryonics aficionados are blind to, is that the purpose of cryogenic preservation is not the same for the Temple believer as it is for them.
While it would be "nice" if one day the cryopreserved body could be "brought to life", this is not needed from the standpoint of the Temple teachings.
The purpose of the cryopreserved body is to provide a physical anchor for the vampire's astral body.
In other words, as long as the vampire's physical body is intact (frozen), the astral body is free to explore and keep itself alive by feeding off other souls; this is what it means to be an Undead God.
This is how the Temple believers interpret the "why" of mummies in Egypt, and other cultures where physical bodies were preserved. According to Temple teachings, Rameses II is an Undead God because his physical body still endures.
Cryogenics is the modern form of mummification.
Therefore, the argument that cryogenics is a fraudulent science because revival technology may not appear in the future, is a moot point for them. For even if the flesh and bone body remains frozen for eternity, the vampire's astral body will continue to consciously exist and live for the duration.
I think that information should be made known on the cryonics messageboards.
It explains the motive behind the vampire/cryonics link.
Now I get it. I did not believe the cryonics rumor before but now it makes sense. Freaky!
V
V
thanks V for the priest bible heads up, I just read it!
this is crazy stuff for real!
Magister R. Lang, if you are reading this, these plastic fangers believe in ASTRAL BODIES that can become "SOUL EATERS". It says that they FEED off the LIFEFORCE of people who have RECENTLY DIED in the priest bible! WTF? thats sick! How can you defend these wackos being in the COS???? Please help me get it!
It's not on there because no one would join if they knew it was going to cost them thousands of dollars, live in a world of secrecy, and most likely result in them signing their life insurance policies over to a cryonics organization instead of their own "family."
Did I mention before that once you join their cult they stalk you all over the internet and monitor everything you do online? Or that they decide who you can and can't associate with in your personal life?
If you read this article written by the ToV creator, and then compare the information to ToV's current website, you'll come to understand that it's all a fabrication. ToV is nothing more than a secret front for George Smith's personal cryonics outreach program. He believes NOT in vampires, but in cryonics. He's deluding the entire flock with his vampire gimmick. This is why he does not allow members to associate with vampires of other groups or discuss the temple with outsiders. Once you start to pick apart the puzzle, the whole thing just falls apart.
Cryonics is sprung on you at the priesthood stage, after you've been softened up by the reality altering exercises in the predator bible. The technique is simple, divide and conquer. They separate the aspiring vampire's senses from their sensibilities through various "vampire" exercises. At this stage you will be pressured to move up and take the next step, and cryonics is required (forget about test everything, believe nothing.)
Cryonics is equated with immortality on the messageboard. At one time they had a thread called "Roll Call of the Immortals" where they posted the names of those who obtained cryonics contracts. Also at this time, I saw several adepts kicked out, probably because they rejected the pressure to buy into cryonics.
If you speak skeptically about cryonics, or even question it on the boards you are met with hostility and rude comments, even though it's never worked or even has any promise of working. Last I checked, medicine can only be practiced on the living. Dead bodies don't heal, though the fantasy they paint is real nice. It's kinda like the christian heaven, where you wake up from death, happy and in a healthy young body, ready to begin your new life.
You are probably right. I noticed ToV has recently made all their bibles available for purchase by the general public, and not just for graded members. Sales must be way down. Maybe Nemo is nervous about being stuck with a large inventory and no one to sell to. Hey, if that business strategy doesn't work out, he can always just raise the monthly rates and threaten to take away everyone's 'immortality' if they don't pay.
ROFL!!! :lol: Damn you anonymous! You made me spill my morning coffee! That line was too damn funny! 😊
Seriously though, all five vampire bibles are available for free through a simple GOOGLE search. I guess he needs to move than inventory now before those interested realize they can get them for free.
If he's smart, he can make some money by publishing a single volume collecting the bibles, and making it available to the general public. But the current business model is not going to function much longer. I mean it's crazy, when you GOOGLE the TOV, this MoH thread shows up on the first page of search results!
Smells kinda "white light" all of a sudden!
Care to retract your statement of support for the "Mystic" Nemo and his band of "Supernaturalists"?
How about a boxed set, complete with a complimentary butt plug with the ToV logo on it? LOL
"Here's some necessary input,
The real reason that Temple believers need to sign up for cryonics has not been spoken of here.
What the cryonics aficionados are blind to, is that the purpose of cryogenic preservation is not the same for the Temple believer as it is for them.
While it would be "nice" if one day the cryopreserved body could be "brought to life", this is not needed from the standpoint of the Temple teachings.
The purpose of the cryopreserved body is to provide a physical anchor for the vampire's astral body.
In other words, as long as the vampire's physical body is intact (frozen), the astral body is free to explore and keep itself alive by feeding off other souls; this is what it means to be an Undead God.
This is how the Temple believers interpret the "why" of mummies in Egypt, and other cultures where physical bodies were preserved. According to Temple teachings, Rameses II is an Undead God because his physical body still endures.
Cryogenics is the modern form of mummification.
Therefore, the argument that cryogenics is a fraudulent science because revival technology may not appear in the future, is a moot point for them. For even if the flesh and bone body remains frozen for eternity, the vampire's astral body will continue to consciously exist and live for the duration."
If the cryo orgs knew this, it would have a huge effect in their 'tolerance' of vampires in the midst. Has this been posted elsewhere? If not, it better be!
I got piles and a nasty rash on my groin.
Can any ToV cult members explain this?
Quote "I tried Communion from an unauthorized copy of the Vampire Bible and really bad things happened. First I felt an aggressive force in the room. Then I heard a mean voice say "doom". I had nightmares but then it got worse. My girlfriend left me and my HD motorcycle was stolen. I think I am going insane. I don't know what to do, please help. I now know it was not write to attempt Communion from an unauthorized copy of the Vampire Bible."
Dude, you ARE insane. Or, more likely, you are just one of those ToV FOOLS trying to scare readers here from downloading the book for free, instead of supporting your fake 'religion' with money.
The undead gods are fake. The ToV is fake. As for your hallucinations, perhaps you should find a different hobby other than trying to summon vampires out of your mirror. Think about it.
Also, in case you haven't herd or read any of the last 111 pages here, it's all a load of BS. The ToV 'experiment' is to see if cryonics can succeed as a religion. Nemo's enlightening, little essay about this very subject describes his own ToV perfectly, right down to the ancient Egyptian symbolism. You are just pawns in his religion game. But it's better to be used than to be useless, right?
As we can clearly see, however, the experiment is failing. It's only a matter of time before the vampire temple packs up and disappears, leaving you all orphaned and alone. Have fun with that. 😊
"The issue of the NDE (near death experience) was treated by James Halperin in an evenhanded way in his brilliant novel "The First Immortal". (I kept feeling that he had intended to do something a bit different with the NDE, just as Arthur C. Clarke led us on in his film 2010 to expect something "wonderful" and then only ended up offering mankind more real estate near Jupiter). Yet what I don't see being dealt with in the New Age community is a very simple issue. A five-minute NDE produces profound psychological changes according to some very serious scientific investigations. What would be the changes we would find in someone restored to life after a 25-year NDE?
"The dead shall return to earth and, finally, tell us about the beyond. Up until the recent years of the NDE, no one was "supposed" to be able to tell us anything. The dead do not return, we were told for years. Yet with cryonics, they will. What will they tell us? The ten-minute NDE-ers already write volumes on their few minutes of experience. What will 25-year NDE- ers say and do? "
There you have it. He really thinks you will be conscious and having an extended NDE while frozen! So while you are frozen, your astral body gets to travel through the astral plane or Dream Sharing. He leaves out the part that the vampire needs to feed of the energy of 'people who recently died' to keep their NDE (Out of Boy experience while legally dead) going. Hilarious!
He leaves out the part that the vampire needs to feed of the energy off of 'people who recently died' to keep their NDE (Out of Body experience while legally dead) going. Hilarious!
Do all cryonics folk believe in this NDE, OBE pipe dream?
Yes, and ironically these very kinds of ToV believers in spiritual afterlife activities are also holding positions of high ranking inside the Church of Satan! Ridiculous! What does this have to do with living in the here and now, and reasoning with your carnal brain? Did they buy their titles in the CoS as well?
Quote: Anton LaVey 'The Satanic Bible', The Book of Satan, II, 7: "He that is slow to believe anything and everything is of great understanding, for belief in one false principle is the beginning of all unwisdom." Try implementing that philosophy on the ToV boards and you will be quickly shown to the door.
Everything you experience, living, dream or otherwise, relies on a living, functioning brain. NDE's are products of a dying brain. Has the ToV also found a way to keep their brain activity going after they have died? I think not. Even the cryonics "experts" tell you that brain activity drops to zero once you've been dumped into your liquid nitrogen grave.
What a joke!
Lastly, even if doctors were somehow able to perform the miracle of "bringing you back from the dead" in the distant future, you'd experience such pain and shock you'll wish they'd left you in the tank. And, most likely, if you survived that nightmare (not probable), you'd be severely brain damaged, emotionally scarred, and mentally retarded for as long as you "lived." And of course, even if the cryonics companies were still in business (not likely) the money you paid would not be enough to cover the medical expenses of bringing you back.
So some people are into cryonics and vampires.
Big effing deal.
What worthwhile deed have YOU done lately?
Get a life.
In addition to informing the masses about these deceptive and utterly worthless scams... LOTS!
Quote "Get a life."
Got one, thanks! And it doesn't involve groveling like a FOOL before imaginary undead gods or kissing the asses of online Grand Poo Bahs for the sake of a rented title.
Quote "I read all the pages."
I'm sorry you haven't received the amount of enjoyment and free entertainment that I have from having shared this same experience. Actually, I'm not really sorry. I just said that to be nice.
Farewell! 😊
How can you defend these vampire wackos being in the COS???
It's now PROVEN on this board and in their PRIESTHOOD BIBLE that they FEED OFF the lifeforce of normal people when they DIE! WTF???
That's disgusting! They believe in ASTRAL BODIES that eat SOULS and that reality is really MENTAL and NOT PHYSICAL. They believe in UNDEAD GODS that exist in the ASTRAL PLANE.
I know YOU read this because you and the others have GOOGLE ALERTS SET UP TO INFORM YOU when YOU and the CHURCH OF SATAN are mentioned anywhere!
WHY DO SATANISTS HAVE TO TOLERATE THESE PLASTIC FANGERS IN OUR CHURCH???? WHY??? DOES IT REALLY COME DOWN TO THE CASH INVOLVED???
12 January, XLVI A.S.:
DEPARTURES
Magister Diabolus Rex has resigned his title and membership in the Church of Satan effective January 1 due to the incompatibility of his personal belief in a literally existing
ToV members are eroding what remains of the CoS and should be the next to go, because they simply are not Satanists. They claim they are an organization that can stand in it's own merits, yet they've been coddled by the CoS since the beginning. Really????? And you need TWO RELIGIONS just to get through your day?????
The ToV scam is DANGEROUS because of the hidden agenda. You may think $10 a month is affordable, but it's not about the $10.00, elevation fees, books, or jewelry. And it's not about becoming a vampire. It's a complete facade with a secret agenda of getting you indoctrinated into a cryonics cult and spending a fortune while making a life-long commitment to a spiritual pipe dream.
*Note: WORSHIP of the undead gods IS discussed in the Vampire Bible.
A TRUE SATANIST!
DOWN WITH ATHEISTS PARADING AS "SATANISTS".
HS
HT
Also, hypothetically, if something called God, Jesus or Satan would appear before me I would not jump to any final conclusions and conclude God or The Devil is real. However, many blind believers would fall for a "return of Christ" hoax if a world government could pull it off to gain control/slaves of the masses through their blind faith.
Second, even if something calling its self SATAN had a "bag of tricks" and could perform miracles and raise the dead I would not believe it is a god. A demonstration of power does not make it a god because all miracles are is something science hasn't explained yet or you were lucky.
I also suggest that the reader watch shows like Stargate SG-1 to heed the warning of what happens when one worships false gods like the Goa'uld and Ori who gain followers through grand demonstrations of power. Once again, power isn't what makes a god.
Let us say Michael Aquino, spiritual Satanists, or Mister Rex's experience were real, which could very well be possible yet I doubt it is what they think it is. However, why do they allow their logic to stop working after such sn experiences and blindly give their allegiance to something that may have bad intentions for you?
To each his own and believe what you want yet there are no gods in my world.
May the 18th Key bring those with ears to hear true wisdom...
However, if anyone still needs a God I will fill that role for you. I do require 10% of your income on a weekly basis. Lol! 😛
P.s. goddamn! 😉
Quote "DOWN WITH ATHEISTS PARADING AS "SATANISTS".
You keep on shouting that, even as they kick you to the curb. Hahahaha!!!!!
Now DIABOLOUS REX...
Are ANY Satanists of any worth left in the old Church of Satan?
Guess it's all good pickin' time for the VAMPIRES.
Quote "Guess it's all good pickin' time for the VAMPIRES."
Obviously, you've posted a typo. It's supposed to read "Guess it's good PACKING time for the vampires." They've already had their time, but their spiritual beliefs are incompatible with the fundamental atheism of the philosophy of Anton Szandor LaVey. We wish them well on their new path.
😊
http://www.satanicinternationalnetwork.com/forum/topic/955
Did his TOV beliefs have anything to do with his resignation? What has Nemo stated concerning this?