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I might add that a vampire does not worship any deity. A theist is a believer in a god. I don't believe there is a god that tells us what is good or evil; so I am a Satanist and an atheist.
I am aware there are energies beyond the physical that I have verified to be true for me, through experimentation, time and time again. I have also verified that there are beings who have advanced beyond the need of a physical body; I want to be like them.
Because I accept there are energies and properties of the mind not understood yet by science, through repeated experiments based on the lessons in the Vampire Bible, I am a vampire.
As a vampire, I do not believe in god, so I am still and atheist and a Satanist. The Dayside is perfectly represented by Satanism and the Nightside (magic) is represented by the Nightside.
No issues of compatibility here. Be open minded and test the materials; discover what is true for you.

"Atheism is for the weak minded and all around lazy."

Really? Go tell that to all of the "stupid" and "lazy" atheists. *smirk* Lol!

And Peter Gilmore has been known to state that Satanism begins with atheism.

He also supports other free thought groups like the Center of Inquiry which has STUPID and LAZY atheists.

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/

When DarkSun used the word atheist, she meant it in the strictest definition of the word. An atheist does not believe in God.
In Da Vinci's post, he explained how he is an atheist yet understands to respect the power of forces yet unknown to science.

why so silent here all of a sudden?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_sBVeSVFB4

Watch this to get an idea of the strong similarities between the ToV and Temple of Set and even the Werewolf order.

Also, I would like to clarify that I never suggested that the ToV believes in a God. However, they do believe in an "afterlife" and other mystical concepts. And they believe Undead Gods appear to them in their chamber and/or mirrors.

I find it hypocritical that Michael Aquino was laughed out of the CoS because he received an "infernal mandate" from Set to create his writings yet the ToV is tolerated based upon their theist-like beliefs and claims of physical beings popping up in your mirrors or bedroom.

Quote "You would probably be quite surprised in the amount of involvement the Doktor had in the Temple coming into the public eye though. It was NOT without his approval."

Really? I don't recall hearing anything of LaVey signing up for cryonics. Actually, the Temple of the Vampire represents EVERYHING LaVey was against in his writings. Try again.

Quote "why so silent here all of a sudden?"

This is not the only front this war is being fought on.

Quote "As a vampire, I do not believe in god, so I am still and atheist and a Satanist. The Dayside is perfectly represented by Satanism and the Nightside (magic) is represented by the Nightside.
No issues of compatibility here. Be open minded and test the materials; discover what is true for you."

No, you are not a Satanist. You are a pseudo Satanist, the very same type written about in Nemo's essay. The Temple of the Vampire is not compatible with the Church or Satan. To say that is to say that Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, or any other religion is compatible with Satanism. Satanism is not compatible with any other religion. Piss of get off the pot, you bunch of stupid ass clowns!

typo, Piss "or" get off the pot, you bunch of stupid ass clowns!

"ASS CLOWNS" was not a typo however.

Quote "NDE's are real. OBE's are possible now. Have you ever had an OBE?"

What happens to you in your bed is your business. It does not, however, make your experiences anything more than a dream. This occultnik BS has nothing to do with Satanism. As far as having an "OBE" myself.. I have absolutely no interest in the "dream world." Your emotional attachment to occultnik practices over carnal existence makes you a complete fraud in the Satanic circles.

Quote "The Vampire is the ultimate adventurer, the Indiana Jones of the Occult."

Indiana Jones????? Hahahahaha, did he think he was an Undead God as well????? Did you know that Nemo dreamed up all this ToV crap as a front for his cryonics outreach idea, and that you are not actually a Real Vampire???? Actually, you are just a pawn in his social experiment to see if his ridiculous plan for making cryonics into a religion could actually work. Hahahahaha!!!!! ASS CLOWNS!!!!

Quote "I find it hypocritical that Michael Aquino was laughed out of the CoS because he received an "infernal mandate" from Set to create his writings yet the ToV is tolerated based upon their theist-like beliefs and claims of physical beings popping up in your mirrors or bedroom."

My sentiments, exactly. Try being a member of the ToS and the CoS at the same time, and see how that goes over with the Cos administration. It's time they stepped up and started doing their job, instead of pandering to these Undead God Worshipers.

Lastly, the Temple of the Vampire is actually much more in tune with the Joy of Satan Ministries than with Church of Satan doctrine. Maybe they should go leech off them instead.

There you go again, anonymous!

The cryonics religion proposal that you continually refer to, was written after the Temple had already made itself visible to the world of humans. The truth is the exact opposite of what you are portraying it to be.
So continue your lying, as that seems to be all you know how to do.

I see you have an aggressive attitude.
If you dislike spiritual movements that benefit and elevate the best amongst humankind, then you must be a criminal.
What crimes are you hiding?
What are your crimes?
What are you hiding?
What are your crimes?
Get it off your shoulders, I know you want to talk.

"I see you have an aggressive attitude.
If you dislike spiritual movements that benefit and elevate the best amongst humankind, then you must be a criminal.
What crimes are you hiding?
What are your crimes?
What are you hiding?
What are your crimes?
Get it off your shoulders, I know you want to talk."

Accusations yet again. Seems like the ToV goons are reusing old strategies.

"... best amongst humankind..."

Interesting choice of words. Interesting, because someone else used the exact same phrase in a post a little while back under a different name.

Furthermore, your sentence structure is by now rather familiar. That would indicate, that either you are the same person that's been sockpuppeteering through half the blog, or you are one of several people writing in a similar pattern as a certain person. If that's due to conditioning or just trying to "do as the cool people do" is anyones guess.

And as someone who views humans as food, you should be the last to call someone a criminal.

I mist admit, though. Your new handle is rather witty in this context. Da Vinci - renaissance man - renaissance - rebirth.

"If you dislike spiritual movements that benefit and elevate the best amongst humankind, then you must be a criminal."

"Spiritual Movements"....Is that what we are calling them now?

What I see in the ToV's "Spiritual Movements" is somebodys dire attempt to codify different factors that have been speculated upon over the last couple decades, mainly within the New Age community.

All you would have had to do to verify my claim is two things, first have listened to Art Bell over the last 20 years, and know that Nemo was a guest on Art Bell.

It bewilders me how so many Satanists are buying into any of the ToV's Nightside as valid magical application.

With the exception of any Ritual built around the theory of Intellectual Decompression, I don't beleive that anything of which you would consider to be part of your "Spiritual Movement" has any real verifiable elements.

You are asking your initiates to verify what has yet to be defined, only speculated upon.

Unverifiable Factors of which only exist through the claims of unreliable sources.

Your Nightside Metaphysical application is at the least faith-based, only verifiable by those who know that if they don't acknowledge their existence they will be ostracized.

Inturn, it would seem that the ToV has stumbled upon the practical application of numerous "Balance Factors" previously unexplained.

Can you tell us on what basis have you applied these previously Unexplained Practices to your fundamental-core workings, of which you require Mastery of if one expects to advance through the graded system?

A Satanist that is willing to accept a concept of which only exists within the imagination of a few mystics, without verification or explanation has hung his/her hat on a Pipedream and in my opinion isn't a Satanist.

"Furthermore, your sentence structure is by now rather familiar. That would indicate, that either you are the same person that's been sockpuppeteering through half the blog.."

Thanks to Sand for pointing out that most of the posts on this thread are being authored by one person. This is a good reminder that all of the posts on MoH should be taken with a grain of salt.

Cheers.
Arthur

Rupert, Sand, anonymous, Gabriel, whatever you wish to call yourself today or this minute, you are a fountain of misinformation. You keep saying that the ToV are theist, when no deity or "Undead God" is worshiped. There is NO theism within the ToV. That would be like saying the CoS worships Satan. It's just not true and you know this. If you don't, you're the one that needs to leave the CoS on grounds of sheer stupidity.

"Rupert, Sand, anonymous, Gabriel, whatever you wish to call yourself today or this minute, you are a fountain of misinformation. You keep saying that the ToV are theist, when no deity or "Undead God" is worshiped. There is NO theism within the ToV. That would be like saying the CoS worships Satan. It's just not true and you know this. If you don't, you're the one that needs to leave the CoS on grounds of sheer stupidity."

The accusation that the critical posts are mainly authored by one person have been used numerous times by now.

I have pointed out before, that the most glaring examples of the use of sockpuppets has been by the pro-ToV posters. It speaks volumes, that ToV goons use the same tactics over and over again. Once in a while you see them trying something new and fails, after which they fall back on their worn out arguments.

For someone so lacking in their rhetoric abilities, accusing others of stupidity is kind of ironic.

"Thanks to Sand for pointing out that most of the posts on this thread are being authored by one person. This is a good reminder that all of the posts on MoH should be taken with a grain of salt.

Cheers.
Arthur"

Thanks to Arthur for misinterpreting that. Was that out of cluelessnes or an attempt at diversion?

But by all means, take everything with the proverbial grain of salt. I mean everyhing, not just what is written here.

To newcomers I can only recommend reading all 115 bloody pages. The temple of the vampire is continually trying to spread their misinformation and wordtwisting, and without knowledge of the discussion in its entirety, any attempt to add your input will most certainly lead to displays of ignorance.

"This is not the only front this war is being fought on."

War? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

to quote from the essay in The Dayside Mastery book, as well as the TVPriest Bible

The Vampire God

"God is the most important person or thing in your life"

"Vampirism tells you when it comes to choosing your god to choose yourself.
To choose yourself as your own god aligns all of your religious conditioning in your favor instead of against you"

"We respect the nature of man as he is and declare that the individual should consciously choose himself to be God"

obviously Gabriel didnt understand the material and neither do most of the detractors here.

If really was an Adept he would have had to know this. So I call bullshit on lil Gabby

Unfortunately, Gabriel was an adept by title only, not by personal testing and validations. If he were true to his title, he would have never made it past Dayside Vampire.

Excellent post Count.

I don't see where This is theist at all:

"The Vampire Creed


I am a Vampire.

I worship my ego and I worship my life, for I am the only God that is.

I am proud that I am a predatory animal and I honor my animal instincts.

I exalt my rational mind and hold no belief that is in defiance of reason.

I recognize the difference between the worlds of truth and fantasy.

I acknowledge the fact that survival is the highest law.

I acknowledge the Powers of Darkness to be hidden natural laws through which I work my magic.

I know that my beliefs in Ritual are fantasy but the magic is real, and I respect and acknowledge the results of my magic.

I realize there is no heaven as there is no hell, and I view death as the destroyer of life.

Therefore I will make the most of life here and now.

I am a Vampire.

Bow down before me."

What would a CoS member think of someone who believed they could conjure demons into their rooms or believed they could see demons in their mirrors?

"I don't see where This is theist at all"

The vampire creed was designed as a lure to sucker in weak egos into the ToV cryonics cult and make them feel as if they were somehow important to the organization. It has nothing to do with what actually goes on in active membership (mind control). But you know this already, ASS CLOWN.

Quote "War? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

You'll see. Enjoy watching the downfall of this pathetic hoax. I am! 😊

Quote "Unfortunately, Gabriel was an adept by title only, not by personal testing and validations. If he were true to his title, he would have never made it past Dayside Vampire."

None of you are true to your titles. You are complete liars and bullshit artists because your validations consist of things that cannot actually be validated.

The man behind the curtain:



Does this look like an immortal vampire?

>Does this look like an immortal vampire?


Nope, but someone that looks VERY familiar.
It's funny when I show that picture of Nemo to random people... I get the same response...
"Why do I feel like I know him?"
Spooky.

@ private: Who are you assuming conjures demons? I've never conjured a "demon".

Just because you can't validate anything for yourself, doesn't mean others can't. You probably also still think the world is flat.

Science is catching up with what people thought was magic or fantasy by the herd on a daily basis. Your obvious fears and narrow mindedness hold you back from much in life. Maybe you should catch up on some "personal" time in the bathroom an relax a bit.

Count, where do you purchase the dayside mastery book? I didn't see it on the main side.

I'm not Coynt, but The Tome of Dayside Mastery is available through the Lifeforce message board, once you've become an Active Member. The same with Reflections, the companion to the Sorcery Bible.

Count, not Coynt. Sorry.

Thanks Blah. So there is the Tome of Dayside Mastery and Reflections (which I assume you need to be in the Priesthood to acquire), are there other books or ritual items available only to Active Members? Sounds intriguing!

Who are you assuming conjures demons? I've never conjured a "demon".

ANALOGY. I thought one would get the comparison.

So you don't conjure anything like... erhmm uhmmm... undead gods?

So if a demon conjurer is a kook what does that make a ToV member?

Your master!

Believe what you want. 😊

Can somebody please provide a summary of ToV Magic so it may be analyzed.

What so many here seem to miss, is that Diabolus Rex resigned from the CoS because of a belief in a literal "Prince of Darkness", which is different from the Undead Gods of Vampirism. So likely his ToV membership (current and/or past) has nothing to do with him departing the CoS, despite what some here would apparently wish.

I've posted here before and have been reading all the pages with keen interest. I am glad someone out there sees the contradiction between "Vampirism" and Satanism.

Now, Rupert, since you're asking I'll provide a brief summary of the ToV's teaching called the "Nine Laws of Magic".

Let me write it up and I'll post it this weekend!

There is no contradiction between vampirism and Satanism. If there was, the CoS would not advertise the ToV; it really is that cut and dry.
If anyone still has lingering doubts (no doubt prompted by the misinformation on this thread) a quick examination of the Letters to the Devil message board will quickly reveal that there are no anti-vampire posts there. Not a one.
So this "contradiction" is being fabricated by pseudo-satanists, theists, and those who are not Active Members of either organization.

"... a quick examination of the Letters to the Devil message board will quickly reveal that there are no anti-vampire posts there. Not a one..."

You mean the board maintained by a ToV member?

(insert cricket noise for added comical effect)

Early on there was a link to a thread on LttD where it was stated, that discussion of the ToV on the board was not welcome.

Discussions regarding the ToV are not encouraged on LttD but that does not mean they could not have happened. I went through every page on the general discussion board at LttD and could not locate a single thread discussing anything negative in regards to vampirism or the ToV.
In all those years, there is not one Satanist complaining about the ToV.
So it is obvious that amongst real Satanists (Active Members of the CoS) there is no dislike of the ToV.
As a matter of fact, the opposite is true!
I saw a great deal of CoS Active Members proudly advertising their ToV affiliation through links provided on their signatures.
So all this ToV Cos controversry being stirred up here is just a load of hot air!
And like Sand wrote, mostly a sock puppet writing all the posts!

uhh...what iz a cos active member? ? ?

Hello xtc, nice to have an early bird up at this time!
An Active CoS Members in one who filled out the active member application form and if accepted, is endorsed by the CoS and given the Degree of Satanist. You receive an actual certificate you can frame. It is really cool and meaningful. As you progress in the CoS through real world action, you can go up the degrees and become a Warlock, Priest, and more.
Active Membership has it's privileges.
If you are not an Active Member, it means that you just paid $200.00 to become a registered member (which is all that is required to be a member and nothing more is required after.)
A Registered member is someone who donated money to the Church to state his support of it.
An Active Members also donated money and decided to be involved in the Church actively.
Registered members are *not* endorsed as being Real Satanists by the CoS. Any loon can be a Registed members as long as they have 204 dollars. Active Members *are* endorsed by the CoS as being Real Satanists.
In the eyes of everyone, Active Members are Real Satanists and registered members are not.

Hope this helps!
HS!

As a CoS Member, I would like to say that all of the Magisters and members of the CoS Priesthood that I have met in person and converse with will tell you that filling out a packet does not make you a more important Satanist. If the CoS feels you are truly one of them and have something worth contributing, your Active Membership will be given to you when deserved. Some of the Priesthood have never filled out a single question in the Active Membership packet.

The packet is still a great filter for idiots though!

Blah, is Rex Church still a member of the ToV or did he rejoin the ToS like some people are saying?

Are the Dayside Mastery and Reflection books available to all subcribers or do you have to be a Priest to get Reflections? I may check it out and getting these books is a motivator.

PAul the retard said
"I went through every page on the general discussion board at LttD and could not locate a single thread discussing anything negative in regards to vampirism or the ToV.
In all those years, there is not one Satanist complaining about the ToV.
So it is obvious that amongst real Satanists (Active Members of the CoS) there is no dislike of the ToV. "
How fucking thick are you retard? ever look at the member boards? there are threads there. there are even threads in the public questions section did ya miss those dumb ass?
And people just finished tellign you that the fucking anti vamp threads get deleted. people get banned for em so people dont make em. real satanists, unlike you you idiot fucking moron. people lik you are why people hate the temple. becos youre all stupid religion nut morons. and you evangelize at real cos satanists. fuckin evangelizing and proselytising on the church of satan board! fuck you peopl.
and how would your lie even mean nobody hates the tov if it were true? trust me every real satanist i know and thats active members HATEs you fucking shitheads and your shithead leader nemo. go drink bleach and die you blood sucking shits

Your response was comical and typical of pseudo-satanists such as yourself.

"And people just finished tellign you that the fucking anti vamp threads get deleted. people get banned for em so people dont make em. "

So messages on LttD are being "deleted" and people are being "banned for em". Sounds like a typical conspiracy theory. Is this all you've got? Not too convincing. It's more likely that these events do not occur on LttD and there is no conspiracy.

"How fucking thick are you retard? ever look at the member boards? there are threads there. there are even threads in the public questions section did ya miss those dumb ass?"

But as I quoted you above, there is a conspiracy to delete posts and ban people, but suddenly there are such threads there? Which is it?
Besides contradicting yourself, you do not provide any proof. Where are the links for these messages if they do exist?
Post them if you have them.
HS!

The 'proof' has been deleted, because the owner of Lttd is not a Satanist, but a ToV member. Satanism is not compatible with any other religion, let alone a religion such as the ToV that is based on occultnik theories and pseudo-science. The priesthood of ToV has sworn an oath to serve only the ToV and their "undead gods', and thereby have lost any claim to Satanism. Satanism does not serve gods or religious bullshit. Satanism doe not embrace occultnik principles. Re-read the bunco sheet moron.

Quote "Your master! Posted by Blah in Blah on Thu Jan 20, 2011 at 05:55 PM"

F*cktard, you are the master of nothing. You and your ilk are, in fact, an abomination. Losers who think they are gods. How fitting.

I'm not a fortune teller, but I'm having a vision regarding the future of the Temple of the Vampire.

First, the people involved in the cryonics industry are going to feel very embarrassed about having, within their ranks, those to see themselves as the 'predators of humans.' Your influence in the cryonics industry will come to a swift end, and many of you will lose your precious cryonics contracts. This is as it should be, however, since your afterlife 'plan' is to feed on human life until you are someday 'brought back to life,' ironically by the humans to claim to rule over.

Second, the Church of Satan is going to become so embarrassed by you idiots that you will completely lose their support as well. You will be left to stand on your own merits, which aren't too good (if you haven't already herd).

Third, without your precious cryonics and the support of the Church of Satan, your entire organization will crumble. Everything is already out in the open, with much more to come. And with Nemo's over-confidence in thinking this thread was "no big deal" and taking no action, the viral nature of this thing is really taking off. Just do a google search and you'll see. You're already finished, but you just haven't realized it yet. Enjoy your demise. Remember, the Joy of Satan is always looking for new recruits!

PS. Vampires suck! 😊