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Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 | 02:07 AM
A M Clark said:
"I'm sorry if I picture some of the extreme cynics as belong to the 60% of obese Americans prodding at their keyboards with burger grease encrusted podgy fingers...."
That's funny because I always picture the LifeWave True Believers as drooling on themselves, wearing a hockey helmet and going to school on very short buses. |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 | 02:48 AM
Gosh Roland, I had been all but convinced that there were only 5 or 6 people in the world that thought LifeWave patches might be a little...well, less than advertised. And the entire 1/2 dozen poor misguided slobs all lived right here. But you've exposed a dirty nasty little coven of non-believers.
...And, on a lighter note... I think I have stumbled upon the secret ingredient in the patches. <a href="http://hado.net/products.html">Indigo Water</a>
Check out the intro at the hado.net site, it's worth waiting for it to load. |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 | 10:14 AM
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
That Indigo Water site is priceless! What a wacko. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 | 01:16 PM
Indigo Water should feel right at home on this forum. Every bit as logical, plausable as glucose and glycerin patches that transmit "messages" to your body.
Nothing too weird there.
Chuckle.
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EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 | 01:20 PM
By the way,
Whatever happened to RE Guy from September 30th 2005? He was looking at LifeWave to supplement his real estate income.
Any word RE Guy. Are you now a bona fide distributor?
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EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 | 09:27 PM
Also,
Still waiting for a LifeWaver to tell me where and when did David Schmidt have his moment when he realized he had invented the most important new science in history. Was he at home in the bath? Was he in a workshop? Was he at McDonalds? He would remember wouldn't he?
All great inventors remember precisely where they were, the date , time of day etc.
Someone let us know, anybody? You've had plenty of time to think of something since I first asked!
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hcmomof4
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 | 10:11 PM
I forgot about this offer from DC. "Have you ever tried the patches?
give me your address and I'll let you try them yourself for free."
DC, please let me know how to get my address to you. I'd love to try these for myself. I'm even willing to keep a wide open mind. (Probably due to the fact that I must have a hole in my head...) I will honestly report on what results I have, in glowing terms if they are favorable to LifeWave, if you will understand that regardless of what I feel, it is not proof that the patches behave in the way advertised.
It would prove that they work, much in the same way a photograph of a waterfall makes me need to pee. I have yet to see anyone sell waterfall pictures as "Lose X-Tra WATERweight!!!", even though it works... |
Coops
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 | 02:42 PM
Is it only the Americans that are easily caught or are these patches available globaly? Where do all the Lifewavers live? In which countries! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 | 03:26 PM
Coops,
The internet is why this scam works so beautifully, but it is also why it will fail.
For the easily convinced, a search on Google brings many pages of results. Mostly distributors doing what they do best. The occasional naysayer page is dotted around, but if it's volume you're looking for, it's there.
So this stuff must be the real thing, right? So many people are writng about it.
The boast that the company is expanding into Countries around the world is also supposed to make people in the US think the product has to be the real thing.
From the other side of the fence, say in the UK, distributors push the idea that they have a hot product for sale that has wowed them in the USA. The grass is always greener on the other side.
For the discerning reader, however, the internet also gives them the tools to search out the story behind the story. It's there if you want to find it.
No, you don't have to have "powerful search engines"; you don't have to be employed by competitor companies in the sports business; you don't have to be part of a conspiracy to bring down a true philanthropist at heart.
You just have to know what's logical, sensible and reasonable. You have to be able to see BS when you see it. You have to be happy to side with the "few" (according to LifeWavers) who are not taken in by this MLM scam.
You also have to enjoy a good laugh.
Thank you Lifewaver's for being more entertaining than most primetime tv. Hey, maybe they'll make a direct to tv movie about it one day.
David at his kitchen table pondering over a cup of coffee when he shouts out just as the toast pops up "I've got it! I know how to change the basic functioning of the human body at the cellular level. I'll share my knowledge with mankind, and charge a nominal fee".
I wonder who they'll get to play the lead?
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hcmomof4
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 | 03:30 PM
Tom Cruise. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 | 04:21 PM
hcmomof4
I see where you're coming from.
Christian Scientist re-invents cellular biology!
Nice one.
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Some guy or girl writing this
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 | 11:47 PM
Hey EVERYONE did you guys know that Tom Cruise Is gay!! yup
IN New york where I work, In a very popular hotel, We have to sneak guys into his room. He pays us to keep quite, PRETTY DAMN GOOD, and he gives us a good rep for him staying there. But That whole katie holmes thing is a scam. He is paying her. There is actually a contract with him and her. I believe a five year one. The reason the women do this is because it helps their careers. I have more info if you want some.
SORRY FOR GOING OFF SUBJECT. Bye |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 | 02:42 AM
I just want to apologize for forgetting to lock the door behind me... |
Paula
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 | 03:03 AM
https://embs.papercept.net/conferences/scripts/abstract.pl?ConfID=2&Number=1783 |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 | 04:30 AM
Oh goodie. LifeWave submitted their "abstract" to an online manuscript management system. They included the results of the extensive testing of ten (yep, count 'em, 10) subjects, as well as the gobbledygoop "data" that is their propoganda. I think it's supposed to make it look like it is now a scientifically accepted paper.
The compliance rules for submitting something are pretty strict, too. The font must be imbedded, you must have the right page settings, it must be submitted in the right format...
(oh man...I know I've spent too much time with this when the word I must submit is "dead".)
I'm sure the rules about the content of your paper is there somewhere??? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 | 06:19 AM
hcmomof4
Ooooh,
Well I'm impressed.
Yep, that definitely means this LifeWave transmitting glucose and glycerin patches thing is for real.
I'm dashing off my order for a thousand boxes of the things in the next few minutes.
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Groan..............
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Coops
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 | 02:30 PM
I did a Google search and clicked on " I feeling Lucky" and came up with
http://www.contactplus.com/lifewave.htm
One of the questions asked is:
How does LifeWave work if nothing enters the body?
and the answer is:
It is believed that: blah blah
Notice that it has not been "PROVED" but believed.......! Ohhhh... So its a FAITH thing.
I have never tried "Nanotechnology" at home. Is it easy and how do I know if it works. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 | 02:38 PM
DC
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 02:38 PM
Olympiast Cyle Sage, who I have met personally was wearing the patches when we set his record.
I don't suppose too many people will be surprised to learn that Cyle is a LifeWave distributor!
How many events where he doesn't win do you think we will hear about?
Is it all about promoting the myth?
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Dr. Smug
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 | 08:04 PM
I had a friend who tried these things and I have to say, he had a lot of energy when he had these things on.
I think it was in his head. But I think he still has some, so I will try them out.
I don't think that anything enters the body. It is all in the mind. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 | 08:23 PM
Dr. Smug
I'm always interested in people's reasoning process when it comes to thinking about LifeWave patches.
You "think it was in his head" when your friend appeared to have an effect. yet you say you are going to try it out.
If you experience an effect, will you think it's in your head, or will you take it as a sign that your friend was right all along and indeed the patches give you energy?
This forum is now on page 54 and if you read back to previous postings you will find many similar to yours.
The problem is, as has been discussed many times before, that even if you were to feel a difference, for better or worse, you cannot attribute it to the pair of patches.
Is your friend still using the patches regularly? Is your friend a distributor?
Thank you for your time.
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Dr. Smug
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 | 11:59 PM
EDHUK,
If I try them, most likely I will think it is in my head since that is my initial impression of them.
Your right, it could just be the way they diet. or the way they excercise. But who knows. I feel that these patches help build up self-confidence, to some subjects. But over all I feel that it does absolutley nothing. But since I have not tried them I guess I can't be so quick to judge.
I don't think he wears them regularly anymore. Distributor? if you mean he tries to sale them. Yes. But is that relevant?( Is that what you mean?)
Thanks for YOUR time. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 | 07:54 AM
Dr.Smug
Is it relevant that a distributor of LifeWave patches tells you they work? Let me think....
Yes, I think it probably is relevant. In previous postings I have suggested that there are people who genuinely feel they benefit from the glucose and glycerin placebo patches. They sell patches as a distributor and make money.
The second group are those who realise this is a MLM scam but also see they might make some money from other people's gullibility. I don't know which group your friend is in.
But over all I feel that it does absolutley nothing. But since I have not tried them I guess I can't be so quick to judge.
You are suggesting that if you try them and feel an effect, you will believe the patches did something for you. How do you come to this conclusion?
When this scam comes to it's inevitable close, how will you rationalize your experience when you realise you experienced a placebo effect?
I have stated previously that the placebo effect is not a term to be judged lightly in view of excellent recent research on pain control. You may well experience a benefit, albeit a placebo effect.
If David Schmidt was to market the LifeWave Placebo Energy Patch I would not be posting on this forum. You could make your own informed decision to buy or not buy.
LifeWave sells a dream of making large sums of money based on quackery. A humble business student plucked right out of the classroom by anonymous people who "know" he is the one to come up with the invention of a lifetime.
Take away the Multi Level Marketing aspect. Imagine the box of patches at your local pharmacy. You read the back of the box..."transmitter" "non-transdermal" "believed to" Ingredients...glucose, glycerin, plastic patches, glue. $90 + tax. You happily buy a box...or do you?
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Dr. Smug
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 | 06:38 PM
EDHUK,
"You are suggesting that if you try them and feel an effect, you will believe the patches did something for you. How do you come to this conclusion?"
What do you think I said? I said that it is all in your head. In that case it would be the placebo effect.
I then said, maybe I shouldn't be so quick to judge.
Anyway, I will not be on this site any longer, so responding to it would be pointless. Because, I will obviously not see it.
Thanks for your time.
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EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 | 07:39 PM
What a pity Dr. Smug lived up to their name!
As I said in my response to the post, the placebo effect USED to be thought of as an imaginary effect, "all in the head" something that was not real, imagined.
That is no longer the case. Recent research has conclusively shown that it is possible to bring about demonstrable changes in the brain by the use of placebo alone.
So, If Dr.Smug had used the patches, he/she may have experienced something that was not "all in the head" as in imagined. It may have been in his/her brain; a real change in brain activity brought about by expectations.
How disappointing that an apparent genuine poster throws in the towel so easily. Methinks they protesteth too much!
Hopefully they feel they have made some sort of point.
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Captain Al
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 | 09:09 PM
I can't believe the number of new posters who start their "investigation" of Lifewave patches with "trying them out". Save yourself a lot of time and money. Look at the Lifewave literature and then ask yourself:
Did you ever hear about a magnetic field around the body in science class?
Does any other company talk about affecting cells with resonant energy transfer?
Did you ever hear of a business school grad doing cutting-edge research in nanotechnology?
A brief glance at the Lifewave website should indicate to anyone with more than three active brain cells that this is all a scam. Instead they get some patches and see if it improves their bench press. Meanwhile, some product was sold and the scamsters win. What part of this don't they get? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 | 10:43 PM
Captain Al,
I guess the only thing David Schmidt put his degree to work for him was in coming up with the compensation plan...
But, it is all about the product isn't it?
http://www.lifewave.com/comp_plan.asp
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hcmomof4
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 | 12:12 AM
LifeWave patches seem to have an interesting effect on how one views the world. So far, I have spent very little time at the LW site, but just for fun I went there tonight. And found this fascinating interpretation of the NCAA statement:
NCAA asks LifeWave |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 | 12:17 AM
And brain dead. And it's all because I had really been counting on DC to provide some free patches to try. I know it wasn't me he had offered them to, but heck, I tried to make a deal he couldn't refuse.
To plagiarize from the LifeWavers, "What are you so afraid of?" |
Coops
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 | 12:36 PM
I've seen the patches and they do indeed contain some substances. Apparently after applying the patches these substances dry up. What if they do contain, lets say some serotonin inducing chemical, and Lifewave say it contains harmless gluclose and jelly. You will of course have more energy.
So what I am actualy asking is "Have the patches been tested as being non trandermal?" After-all the applied patches do dry up after a days use. So where does that stuff go to? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 | 01:14 PM
Coops,
LifeWave proudly gives the pdf file on their website. A report from MVA, the company that tested the patches in 2004. That's how we know what's in them. LifeWave had to tell MVA the contents in order for the correct substance to be chosen for the test. Glucose (brown) and glycerin(white) is what they told the company.
"A reagent was chosen, based on information provided by the manufacturer, that would react with substances present in the brown (glucose) patch and in the white (glycerin) patch.
The reagent chosen reacts with glycerin and with glucose to form a white precipitate."
If LifeWave told the truth, you know what's in the patches. If they lied to MVA, the results of the test are null and void and the non-transdermal status has not been demonstrated. Of course no one has ever addressed this issue from the LifeWave camp.
As to why the patches would dry up now? Maybe the top of the patch now allows the escape of H2O thereby ensuring a limited shelf life and the temptation to use the patches over and over again.
As the patches don't actually do anything, there would be no reason to expect the contents necessarily to be the same today as when Schmidt first "invented" them. Changing the contents would, by default, have no effect, adverse or otherwise. Placebo is placebo.
Study by MCA
http://lifewave.com/pdf/mva_study_11-23-04.pdf
If you flood the internet with info, fake "studies" pictures of "successful" users etc. etc. and info on how to make lots of loot...some people fall for it.
Human nature is as fascinating as ever.
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swimwave
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 | 11:27 AM
from Cyle Sage
I would like to clear up a few mis-interperted and mis quoted facts about me and my usage of lifewave patches
First of all I am signed up as a lifewave distributor so I can buy the product to use in my athletic competitions and training and have given it to other athletes that I work with including 2005 ITU World Long Distance Champion and 2005 Ford Ironman Coeur D'Alene winner Viktor Zyemstev. Viktor will not race without the patches as he claims they give him "new power" ( refer to his post race interview in the Coeur D'Alene paper and Ironmanlive.com finishline interview back in June.
I am not paid by Lifewave to endorse their product.
On my " fastest swimmer in the sport and Olympic status "
I was a collegiate swimmer ( University of Miami ) and got into the sport of triathlon in 1988, won a couple of national sprint titles 89,92 as an amateur. Competed as a professional 8 years and began coaching within the sport since 1993, I was the US junior National coach 1999 -2001 and received the US Olympic Committee's Developmental coach of the Year award in 1998 and 1999 ( sport of triathlon ), now I coach Swimming and cross Country at Saint Leo University and compete as an age group athlete for the TIMEX multisport team ( which is sponsered by JointFlex ) I started wearing the patches in March of 2005 and my first competition wearing them was in the Saint Anthony's triathlon where I posted the fastest swim split in the race that included in the professional field some the fastest triathlete swimmers in the sport and the former # 1 ranked athlete in the sport ( who won the race that day ). Somehow out of that description I became an Olympian and the fastest swimmer in the sport and setting a record. In defense of the post on the lifewave site I can see where someone not familiar with the sport of triathlon or the nature of comparing performances could take all the facts surrounding my swim split in the race and make it into what was posted. I suppose it was my error not to clarify the statement.But that still does not take away from the fact that I have used the Lifewave patches in numerous training and competition situations with great success. I have been always one to "experiment" and test the latest and greatest in Legal sports products(ie glycomax drink a few years back)to see their effect on athletic performance. Having a Master's Degree in Exercise Sport Science, I am well aware of the "placebo effect" and I have tested the patches in ways that would take away this effect and they still increased time to fatigue. I don't focus on the MLM aspect of this company but what the product can do for my athletes physically. But with all the questions I get as a coach as to what shoe to run in or what drink to drink or bike to buy, I become by default a marketing or spokesperson for that company ( everyday each of us recommends something to someone ( like the last Motion picture we saw ) so it is cool when a company will reward you for that bit of promotion, in this case it is through the MLM process. As for what Lifewave patches do and why they are effective , research the NANOTECHNOLOGY industry and what this science is trying to accomplish within society. we will all be better off in the future just as we have been with other advancements in science and technology. I have personally met with David Schmidt and this company is about creating a positive difference in a person's life in all aspects. the financial aspect is just one of them. |
Dr. Poop
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 | 12:03 PM
I believe all of you guys. Wow you are all smart.
So that's what the facts are.
I can do the robot!!!!
I have a lifewave patch on right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........!!!...! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 | 04:20 PM
Swimwave
Cyle Sage stated Having a Master's Degree in Exercise Sport Science, I am well aware of the "placebo effect" and I have tested the patches in ways that would take away this effect and they still increased time to fatigue.
I would be interested to learn how, in detail, you acomplished this. Where did you purchase the placebo patches that were exact replicas of the LifeWave patches? How did you conduct the double blind aspect of your testing? How did you rule out the confounding factors of muscle warm up/cool down? I presume you are aware of the latest research on placebo effect? Demonstrable results can come from placebos.
I admire the fact that you have attempted to put the record straight about your accomplishments. It is somewhat disappointing to read later in your post a fairly generic LifeWave Speak portion.
Have you done well in every competition with the patches?
We shouldn't have to research the Nanotechnology field. LifeWave is unable to give one single plausable explanation for the so called "science" behind their outrageous scam product. They mesmerise even the most intelligent people and do it in such a blatant "in your face" manner.
As per my previous postings, I believe people fall into two main groups. Those who use and sell patches because they genuinely believe in the product. Then there are those who know it's a scam but want to ride the wave as far as it will go, even though they know some people will be getting nothing but sand in their shorts!
If you truly believe these ridiculous glucose and glycerin patches do anything we can only wonder how you will recover from your stated position when this scam MLM ends. How do the science teachers in your school view this product?
Where did you meet David Schmidt, brilliant businessman turned "Scientist of the Century"?
I have personally met with David Schmidt and this company is about creating a positive difference in a person's life in all aspects. the financial aspect is just one of them.
LifeWave is creating a very positive change in David's life...his bank balance!
There are going to be some very red faces around in the near future. I sincerely hope yours will not be one of them. Your career will continue long after the LifeWave scam has faded from the internet.
Is it about even intelligent people being mesmerised? |
Joe
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 | 05:04 PM
"As for what Lifewave patches do and why they are effective , research the NANOTECHNOLOGY industry and what this science is trying to accomplish within society."
I just get the flavor here that he doesn't know what the patches actually do. Instead, we are instructed to research it ourselves. Not personally attacking, but that is a trend I am seeing. People believe the patches work yet don't know what it is the patches are doing. The magnificent claims of the patches are blinding people in seeing the reality that a technology like this cannot exist and does not make sense. |
A M Clark
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 | 06:43 PM
Reading this forum, I do have my doubts, BUT, this is a hoax discussion forum after all. 😉
I've raced with the patches twice now, and won twice. I've already sent samples to a colleague with a PhD in Sports Physiology for lab testing, and await the results.
One thing though, the patches definitely change appearance after they have been worn. Something is going on there, and I don't see how glucose alone can undergo that change....? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 | 06:46 PM
Swimwave said:
"Having a Master's Degree in Exercise Sport Science, I am well aware of the "placebo effect" and I have tested the patches in ways that would take away this effect and they still increased time to fatigue."
Where may we read the peer reviews of your study? Since you have a Master's Degree you are certainly aware of the necessity of peer reviewing, yes? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 | 06:47 PM
Joe,
Well respected though Cyle Sage is at his school and elsewhere (I presume), you can't help but wonder how many of the science students snigger in the classrooms when the subject of Cyle Sage and his glucose and glycerin patches comes up.
It can only end in frustration and disappointment. It's not nice to finally realize you've been had.
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Captain Al
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 | 09:27 PM
Swimwave said:
"I have personally met with David Schmidt..."
I assume, with a Master's degree in Exercise Sport Science, the natural scientific curiosity in you could not have resisted asking David Schmidt for a tour of his state-of-the-art nanotechnology laboratory to see more of this revolutionary product being developed. Where exactly is his research center? Did you also ask how he came to be on the leading edge of nanotechnology with a lot less post secondary education than you have? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 | 01:55 AM
A M Clark said:
"One thing though, the patches definitely change appearance after they have been worn. Something is going on there, and I don't see how glucose alone can undergo that change....?"
Why do you seemingly assume that the change in their appearance has anything to do with the fact that you wore them? Why don't you try simply putting some patches on a table for a few days and see if they change in appearance?
How about if you also put some glucose (no patch) on the table and see what happens? I'd be surprised if it DIDN'T change appearance. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 | 02:00 AM
swimwave said:
"As for what Lifewave patches do and why they are effective , research the NANOTECHNOLOGY industry and what this science is trying to accomplish within society."
Hey, here's a crazy idea: since you're the one making the assertion that small plastic patches can do something which defies the known laws of physics, why don't YOU provide the evidence of that?
What the nanotechnology industry may be trying to accomplish is irrelevant since the little plastic patches in no way conform to the very notion of "nanotechnology." They're closer to voodoo, frankly.
Here's a little clue about how the world works: sometimes people who are trying to sell something LIE about the nature of the thing they're trying to sell. *cough* David Schmidt *cough* |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 | 12:20 PM
Emerging Technologies and Ethical Issues in Engineering: Papers from a Workshop, October 14-15, 2003 (2004)
Anthony Vigliotti (2003) responded in a later issue of Smalltimes with a letter given the headline of |
Razela
in Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 | 05:03 PM
I don't see any reason that lifewave would be hiding the manufacturing company.
Unless, of course, they've got something to hide... |
human being
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 | 10:05 AM
Does anyone know if the life patches are approved by the FDA.
(One of the most corrupt businesses in the world)
Along with the FTC.
But that's off the subject. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 | 11:29 AM
What's to approve?
A placebo is a placebo.
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HEY PUNKS
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 | 11:20 PM
Just interviewed 3 of the Pittsburgh Steelers defense, They Love the Patche's Why don't you PUNKS give up |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 01:10 AM
Which 3? Why won't you punks learn grammar and punctuation? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 01:24 AM
HEY PUNKS said:
"Just interviewed 3 of the Pittsburgh Steelers defense, They Love the Patche's Why don't you PUNKS give up"
They probably love Jack Daniels and cigars, too. What's your point? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 05:40 AM
HEY PUNKS
Once again, a mystery poster chimes in with an earth shattering statement.
"Just interviewed 3 of the Pittsburgh Steelers defense, They Love the Patche's..."
WOW...That's it then folks. I must bow down to such an awe inspiring argument for the patches. Yep, it's all there. The evidence for the actual existence of a product with verifiable results.
"They Love the Patche's..."
Whew...
This argument is going to be the hardest yet to come back from.
I think I'd better get off to the gym for my workout. It's going to take a lot of effort to come back from this poster's revelation!
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EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 03:13 PM
Apart from the odd entry from the likes of Hey Punks, I'm still waiting to read the mass of information generated by the Las vegas Convention in September and the Canadian Convention recently.
There must be TONS of useful info. Anybody?
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EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 03:17 PM
WWSN1
If you like Lifewave patches, but hate paying retail, check out the growing number of distributors who are selling patches on Ebay.com.
I checked out these sellers. One reply was interesting.
i never wanted to be involved - i just wanted some patches at a cheaper price. (yes, i'm one of those that think i feel different on them...) then i got very annoyed for 2 reasons - i've had a lot of problems with the patches sticking to my skin AND lifewave won't leave me alone!
Now what would those nice people at LifeWave be bothering them about I wonder?
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Razela
in Chicago, IL
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 04:01 PM
i've had a lot of problems with the patches sticking to my skin
Aren't the patches suppose to stick to his skin? Maybe they stick longer then intended, or maybe they leave some sort of residue. I'm confused. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 04:16 PM
Razela
I wondered about that too. I guess it's quality control issues. Maybe 3M responded to the earlier problems with the things falling off and people using band aids on top of them. Maybe they are too sticky now?
It looks like the LifeWave hard sell put this person off. I hate pushy sales people don't you?
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Pushy?
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 05:13 PM
I find those comments very hard to believe as Lifewave itself is far from pushy. The only thing I can see is that the person who signed them up may be trying to motivate them to sign people up in an overly aggressive fashion. Lifewave has no control over this issue. For the record, Lifewave is very professional in the way they conduct business. "The nice people at Lifewave" would not be bothering them about anything unless they find receiving a few updates on email per week bothersome.
I'm surprised the grammatical wizards (EDHUK, CMG, etc.) have not been able to interpret some basic english...I guess I'm not surprised. It appears to me that the seller on ebay is having trouble getting the patches to stick which has been a problem for many. The simple solution is to make sure there is not lotion, hair, etc. on the acupoint where you apply the patches. You can also use some rubbing alochol to clean the area first to clear skin of oils, sweat, lotions, etc. |
pushy?
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 05:18 PM
I'm sorry if I seem pushy trying to get you to try the patches EDHUK. Just trying to help people like you out. I like leading people like you out of the darkness. Some of my best distributors were once narrowminded, negative, skeptical people just like you. Now they are running very successful businesses and enjoying the benefits of the patches.....all just because they gave the patches a try. |
Razela
in Chicago, IL
Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 05:34 PM
Pushy writes "I'm surprised the grammatical wizards (EDHUK, CMG, etc.) have not been able to interpret some basic english...I guess I'm not surprised. It appears to me that the seller on ebay is having trouble getting the patches to stick which has been a problem for many."
Either you know a form of English I have never heard before or perhaps it is you who has "not been able to interpret some basic english."
The quote was:
"i've had a lot of problems with the patches sticking to my skin"
Now for an English lesson:
Usually when you are stating that you have a problem with something, you then say what the problem is.
Ex:
I have had problems with -object- -problem-
I have had problems with my Computer crashing all the time
I have had problems with my employees not taking their work seriously
So in our example, the objects are the lifewave patches, and the problem is them sticking:
I've had a lot of problems with the patches sticking to my skin.
If they weren't sticking it would be "I've had a lot of problems with the patches not sticking to my skin."
Please think before the next time you try to insult someone. |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 06:11 PM
Anonymous Pushy
I'm glad you've been able to lead people out of the darkness. Very much in keeping with the biblical theme to David Schmidt's following.
I have no intention of ever trying out a set of scam placebo patches consisting of glucose and glycerin (LifeWave's words not mine).
If you feel comfortable scamming people out of their hard earned cash, then bully for you. I do hope you are prepared to step up and take your fair share of the legal blame when the **** hits the fan.
Rest assured PUSHY, somebody like you could never help me out. You are either 1: Incapable of seeing through this laughable scam MLM company. 2: An out and out crook intent on making as much money as possible from the gullible before the demise of this sickening company.
If I ever needed any kind of help, you would be the last person on earth I would turn to, and even then I don't think I'd bother.
Do we have to keep reading the same old same old? "Why don't you try the patches?"
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EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 06:37 PM
PUSHY
You can silence all of us sceptics permanently in one move.
You apply for the Million Dollars prize at James Randi's website. You take the patches to his people at the arranged date and time. The patches are scientifically tested under agreed protocols and VOILA......you win a MILLION DOLLARS.
You are 100% guaranteed to win. You cannot loose!!!
You can assure us, just like you do to your distributors, that this product does exactly as claimed, nanotechnology, transmitters etc.
This is all HIGHLY testable.
So, there you have it. The ball is in your court. You can step up to the plate. You have nothing to hide. You won't mind being identified when you apply because you are doing nothing more than selling a whizbang product that you back up with your 100% personal guarantee.
There is absolutely nothing that can go wrong. It's money in the bank. Won't James Randi be surprised when you become the very first Million Dollar winner!
I wait with great interest to read on James Randi's site that you have applied.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
human being
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 06:58 PM
hsmomof4,
"Which 3? Why won't you punks learn grammar and punctuation?"
WOW, I didn't realize this was a grammar and punctuation contest.
Well I guess to pushy, and Razela, it is.
Maybe I should go and practice before I write anything else.
When I come back I will be a Grammar champion!!
Everybody give it up. EDHUK, has all of you beat.
You guys don't not no what you are saying.
Crap, I gotta go practice.
senserally hooman beeyng |
Razela
in Chicago, IL
Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 10:15 PM
I just found it rather ironic that pushy resorted to personal attacks about his "opponents" command of English, but that he was actually the one in the wrong. It was more of a point on actually doing your research rather then on grammar. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 | 07:51 AM
human being said:
"WOW, I didn't realize this was a grammar and punctuation contest."
This is an attempt at communication. The less well you communicate, the harder it is to understand what you're trying to say. That isn't anyone's fault but your own.
Why is it that illiterates and semi-literates in America seem to think that anyone who expects them to be able to communicate on an adult level is asking too much of them? Exactly how low do you expect us to set the bar for you? Why aren't you apologetic for your inadequate communication skills? Are we supposed to be sorry because we CAN spell and use the language correctly?
Here's an idea: try holding yourself to a higher standard. |
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