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heath
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 | 06:32 PM
It is all true!! Trust Me. I will tell you more after my research!! |
Again
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 | 10:23 PM
Again , i will believe , Doctors, Scientist's , NFL, NBA, NCAA, body builders & ETC. over you GUYS. They notice a Difference right away , because they work out & don't sit around all day on the ne, trying to DISCREDIT a company. |
Joe
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 | 11:10 PM
Do you have to work-out to see results? Does the patch know when someone is working out? How does posting on a thread once a day or so lead to being inactive? Opposers of the Lifewave patch, me included, will give credit where credit is due.
Is there a grammar and punctuation patch coming out soon? I know I make a few errors here and there, but my little cousin has better writing skills than some posters and she is 5. Not trying to personally attack those with bad spelling, just makes your argument weaker and harder to grasp.
Opinion: Leads me to assume that if you can't properly communicate your ideas and thoughts, that you must have a hard time selling the patches.
Enough on that subject.
So what is going on with the rest of the presenters at the Las Vegas conference that haven't been mentioned? Any of them distributors also? |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 | 01:52 AM
heath's post doesn't really say which side of the argument he/she is going to prove...
Or even if this is the topic (s)he meant to post in. Maybe it was supposed to go here -- Third Smartest Species On Earth Attempts To Sell Second Smartest, or here: Desert meteor, or Esenam Ayele, Nigerian Philanthropist, but probably not here, Liquid titanium necklace |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 | 10:22 AM
I am always fascinated, but not surprised, at how many people are compelled to let the world know how gullible they are!
To posters like AGAIN I repeat that I am in no way attempting to change your mind. If you feel a benefit, that's wonderful. If you are not interested in any reasonable discussion about why you experience a benefit, that's your decision.
Posters who are of the opinion that David Schmidt is a bona fide scam artist, lay out their thoughts for people to think about and that's all.
We all make mistakes in our lives. I don't know anyone who hasn't at some time or another "goofed" badly. We usually learn for those mistakes and move on.
People like WWSN1 are much like historians. They give the long term view; other MLM scams that had the same trademaks as LifeWave. If people choose to ignore the signs, that again is their right.
From an interesting article on Mesmer:
The trouble with human minds is that they are all too readily convinced that they are on the right path by any slight sign, and turn chance pointers into concrete sign posts. In order to keep on the path of truth we need to be very, very careful to look for all signs that we are OFF the path of truth. We won't see the boundaries of the path unless we look carefully for them. Nor is it wise to be guided by a person who cannot answer the question, "How do you know if you have left the path? What would it take to prove that you are wrong?"
The Journal of the National Council for Psychotherapists and Hypnotherapy Register, Summer 94.
Lessons to be learned?
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Coops
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 | 03:58 PM
I am fascinated to see real tests with Lifewave patches. OK so now I've learned that humans maybe be affected by the placebo effect and thus make it impossible to determine if they work or not. Some here have had their animals patched. What a wonderful idea since animals won't be affected by the placebo effect right. I patched old Bobo. But just in case placebo might work on old Bobo I hid the patch in my left hand and with my right I held a titbit to distract him, then quickly with a "Good Boy" I snuck on the patches.
Watch this space....... |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 | 04:25 PM
Coops,
Great idea, but unfortunately you wouldn't get a job in a testing lab.
People often post here that animals are not subject to the placebo effect. They are, however subject to the effect of the human carrying out the test, i.e. you.
The relationship you have with Bobo is a very complex one and behavioral changes that you may attribute to the patch may, or may not be attributable. That's why designing rock solid animal trials for any product are so difficult.
Also, the basic point that you are privy to the identity of the patch cannot be discounted. Double blind trials attempt to rule out that factor.
As for the human results. I have posted earlier in this thread the very recent research about pain control using a placebo. Volunteers really had pain control with a saline drip. The brain scans revealing changes in brain activity in pain control centers is the newer part of the research. Just because something is a placebo doesn't mean there can be no effect.
If David Schmidt were to start marketing the "LifeWave Placebo Patch" tomorrow, I wouldn't bother posting here. His new found honesty to his customers would be refreshing and at least people could decide to buy or not based on factual information, not MLM hype.
Looking forward to Bobo's words on the subject.
Cheers.
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Why
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 | 05:43 PM
If you guys are so BENT on this just call DAVID at Lifewave. What are you scared ? |
ME
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 | 05:44 PM
I'll bet any amount they won't call , they just sit on a message board & BLAH BLAH. I would love it if they would call, its simple really |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 | 06:02 PM
As predictably as the sunset this evening the well thought out reasoned responses arrive from our friends with the LifeWave placebo scam.
What are you scared ?
I'll bet any amount they won't call , they just sit on a message board & BLAH BLAH
And you guys are doing what exactly to give us any insight into what you "think" is going on here (although using the word 'think" is probably a lttle flattering).
Why exactly would anyone want to call a scam MLM to discuss anthing at all. If you have personally been suckered into the organisation, that's your badge of shame. You do not need to ask others to lighten your embarrassment by sharing the load.
Do yourselves a favor and read this entire forum. Perhaps you can then save us all the usual tired repetitive "LifeWave speak" answers.
Better still, perhaps you can come up with an original thought. You do know how to think don't you? And, no, you are not allowed to call David at LifeWave to ask him if you can think!
Is it the same circular drivel about a placebo touting MLM scam that appeals to a certain "kind" of person.?
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Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 | 06:09 PM
Why would we call David Schmidt? We already know his position on his "invention" is. And if he reads this site, he knows what our position is. If you are suggesting we might get a scam confession out of him, I would call right now. |
Big Dawg
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 09:38 AM
If the Lifewave patches were really a hoax then why would the NCAA get involved at any level? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 10:02 AM
Big Dawg
I can understand how you could draw that conclusion. If you check back in this forum the subject has been discussed many times, but here is a thumbnail version.
Someone is asked about the patches. That person says they don't see any harm in the patches especially as they don't do anything.
LifeWave Speak interpretation = NCAA endorses LifWave Patches.
You've seen similar examples of words being used out of context in all areas of life.
From Page 44 of this forum:
I emailed the NCAA.
Here is the NCAA official position on the LifeWave Energy Patch:
"The NCAA has determined that the product advertised as a hot/cold patch
by the LifeWave Patch manufacturer may be used for the purpose of
treating an injury or illness. Institutional use must be consistent
with the use of other hot/cold patch products, under the direction of
the sports medicine staff, and may not be provided to student-athletes
for practice and/or competition absent a legitimate medical condition.
Other products promoted by this manufacturer as training aids are
impermissible for NCAA institutions to provide student-athletes."
Please contact us again if you have further questions.
As you will see, this is very far from a glowing recommendation.
Why not drop them a line via email to ask about their stand on the LifeWave patches?
http://www2.ncaa.org/contact/
I emailed the Public Relations Staff.
Cheers. |
Gunther Syverschatt
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 12:04 PM
Hey guys. I am gunther. I am a 22 YEAR OLD male.
I like sport, vido games and a lot of reading. |
gunther
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 12:05 PM
I like to writie too. |
Gunther
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 12:06 PM
sory i am bak. i like to tell you about my personal life some more but no one has written back. |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 01:23 PM
You all do know we have a new forum???????? |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 02:27 PM
Yes X, but we're on a roll here. I'm still hoping Alex will be able to transfer the threads from this forum to the new one. He did mention that possibility when he announced the new one. |
Razela
in Chicago, IL
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 02:28 PM
no, i didn't realise there was another forum. What's the address for it? |
Coops
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 02:38 PM
"Why Me" both wrote....
If you guys are so BENT on this just call DAVID at Lifewave. What are you scared ?
and....
I'll bet any amount they won't call , they just sit on a message board & BLAH BLAH. I would love it if they would call, its simple really ---------------------
Tell David to call us, I bet any amount he won't because HE is scared, scared of "real" facts. Tell us please why we would be scared to call David? What good whould it do to call David? Do you really think he would admit to faking it and loose everything? |
NCAA
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 03:57 PM
Thats a OLD E-mail to the NCAA , they have changed there opinion on Lifewave now, So have lot of other people. I was at the Pittsburgh Steelers game early the other day & 24 of them are patched up. Just give it up guys Lifewave is NOT going away , so MOVE ON !!! |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 04:03 PM
Perhaps WHY and Me think if we talk to David Schmidt, his charm and technical brilliance will cast some sort of magic spell and make us believers just like it did to them.
"You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile"
-the Borg to Captain Piccard |
D C
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 04:38 PM
I hate to crash the big Na-Sayers ball but I've been using LifeWave for 3 years and it's one of the most amazing athletic enhancement products EVER. Yep, better than Nikes, Gatorade, Creotine or whatever.... LifeWave is badass. The LifeWave workout test (which is present in the instructions of the product - not that any of you would know, none of you have tried it) shows you how to test to see if the product is working. They have over 200 professional athletes on their roster - 99% of them are paid only in patches. And this includes olympic athletes aswell. The fastest triathlete runner in the world - Olympiast Cyle Sage, who I have met personally was wearing the patches when we set his record.
Now if that's just a placebo at work... then that's one hell of a placebo.
I think the only people that are gonna go out of their way to sling mud at LifeWave are people who are backed (funded) by some other fitness company who feels threatened.
LifeWave is a multi-million dollar company - if they made any false claims they could be sued - easily. But everything they publish is backed by double blind studies. Science! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 05:04 PM
Yawn.
These feeble responses are laughable. Do you actually think any reasonable person living on this planet is taken in by distributors posting their cookie cutter comments?
Backed by double blind studies?
There are NO credible double-blind studies.
And which company exactly should I send my bill to for making these comments? LOL
The good old conspiracy theory rears its ugly head.
Doesn't anyone bother to read previous postings. It would save an incredible amount of time if you could not post tired and overused "LifeWave Speak" arguments.
The "OLD" email from the NCAA was September 22nd, 2005. Yes that's really out of date. I guess I'll just have to write again to find out the very latest thinking about this world shattering invention.
Again, DC, who is it who is going to send me lots of money to post here. I would be fascinated to know and look forward to you telling me so that I can become very rich, just like you!
Is it all about the same old same old about a scam MLM company adept at taking in those unable to see the wood for the trees?
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Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 05:36 PM
"They have over 200 professional athletes on their roster "
Ha ha. Since when are athletes respected for their scientific and engineering knowledge?
I've heard you can make lots of money on the Internet but I didn't know you could do it just by bashing multi-million dollar companies. Where do I sign up?
Yes, it is one hell of a placebo. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 05:49 PM
DC
The fastest triathlete runner in the world - Olympiast Cyle Sage, who I have met personally was wearing the patches when we set his record.
Are you sure?
A cursery look at the name brings us to another forum:
http://www.ghchealth.com/forum/lifewave-cyle-sage-worlds-fastest-swimmer-in-triathlon-discussion-914.php
Now Cyle is the World's Fastes Swimmer. What a busy guy!
Cyle swam representing "Team JointFlex - Timex"
Well, stranger things have been known. We may well see this guy at the next Olympics.
I wonder how he will take to the idea that
"...was wearing the patches when we set his record".
Here we see Cyle talking about GLYCO MAX.
GLYCO MAX Editorial
by Cyle Sage, USA Triathlon National Team Coach
http://www.glycomax.com/tests/editorial1.htm
And here we see Cyle's smiling face.
http://www.saintleo.edu/SaintLeo/Templates/Inner.aspx?pid=2995&proxy.pid=8381
Perhaps we could drop him a line and ask him to acknowledge that LifeWave patches is responsible for his huge success. He should at the very least put LifeWave's name on the prize!
It gets better all the time.
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DC
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 06:01 PM
Have you ever tried the patches?
give me your address and I'll let you try them yourself for free.
And yeah, that's Cyle, Yes he is smiling... He's a really nice guy, and he uses LifeWave patches.... And yes he is a Tri-athlete champion - and you are right - swimmer - excuse me - and yes he is busy - HE iS A TRI-ATHLETE YOU RETARD.
So what exactly is your rant all about?
Talkin' Loud and sayin' nothing there EDHUK
And yes - as LifeWave continues to become the huge Sports and Wellness company it is on the path to being (helping thousands if not millions of people in the process) there will be a ton of people on the payroll of other companies trying to smear it. Even on blogs like this one. |
DC
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 06:03 PM
Oh and also,
7x and current Mr. Olympia uses the patches too.
(Basically the Jordan of body building)
And has been using it before LifeWave had the wallet the size of his other sponsors.
put that in your pipe and smoke it. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 06:04 PM
DC
I will leave your reasoned response to speak volumes about you.
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Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 06:12 PM
A coach on a winning streak wears the same socks everyday without washing them.
A baseball player always taps his spikes three times with the bat for good luck before stepping up to the plate.
A wide receiver kneels down in prayer after catching a pass in the end zone.
A hockey team working on a shutout avoids saying the word "shutout" in the locker room between periods to prevent jinxing the goalie.
A basketball player goes through a particular routine before a game because the last time he did it, he won.
And we are told we should respect the scientific opinion of professional athletes about the performance benefits of Lifewave Energy Patches. |
jwb671
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 08:06 PM
There isn't a lot of cred in Mr Olympia endorsing anything except companies that produce Growth hormone, insulin, IG1, testosterone, deca-durabolin, dianabol, synthol, thyroxine and the dozens of other drugs that he takes! |
Joe
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 08:22 PM
I look at the size of the industry relative to the claims of the product. Based on the claims of the Lifewave patch, this should not be a multi-million dollar industry, but a multi-BILLION dollar industry. In fact, if they really did what is claimed, it should be multi-TRILLION dollar industry, because other governments/countries would want this wonderful invention. It would revolutionize the entire world. Yet, it remains on the MLM level. Interesting. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 08:35 PM
Joe
You must admit, it makes for entertaining posts!
I don't much like crosswords, but this is fun especially with reasoned input from people like DC.
One minute he says I'm on the payroll of a competing company to LifeWave. Next post he says I'm a "retard".
He may be right! However, I think as we have all seen in this forum, you don't even need to be that bright to put their arguments where they belong, along with the placebo glucose and glycerin patches, in the trash.
We humbly await your next "pearls of wisdom" DC.
Please don't make us wait too long.
It really is only about the loot.
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Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 08:39 PM
DC says:
"The LifeWave workout test shows you how to test to see if the product is working."
Does it tell you to do a double blind test in cooperation with a recognized university and then publish the results in a respected peer-reviewed journal?
"LifeWave is a multi-million dollar company - if they made any false claims they could be sued"
That means you DC since you are representing them and repeating their claims. I hope you know what your're doing. |
Joe
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 08:47 PM
This forum brightens my day, everyday. It makes me laugh because the people that sell the patch (the only avenue used to sell it) don't even know what the patch is about. They don't even investigate the claims or the science. They take it for granted that the science works since the words are too big on the Lifewave Website (Not a personally attack, sometimes I don't even understand the mumbo-jumbo coming from that site).
To get around this, we need independent parties to verify the information. Independent means that they are not distributors or connected to the product in any way. That is the only way we can trust the product without becoming experts ourselves. If some distributor uses big words to sell me patches, it would make me think, "does this really work or does he/she want to sell the product?"
Look at a used car salesmen. He wants to move inventory. Cliche, but that is why there is CarFax and other lemon-checking services. So that we don't have to take the word of someone selling the product who has a financial interest in the product.
It would be okay to sell the product and use independent studies to back up the claims. Too bad there aren't any yet (CREDIBLE, I might add). |
Joe
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 08:55 PM
I'm actually lifting weights and looking at this forum in between sets. That should blow the minds of those Lifewavers that say we sit on this forum all day and are not active!!!!!
Also, I want a product like this to work/exist. I'm not against having something like this. It would be awesome. |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 09:01 PM
This year's winner of the <a href="http://nobelprize.org/medicine/laureates/2005/index.html">Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine</a> has been announced and it isn't David Schmidt for his revolutionary nanotechnology Lifewave Energy Patch. Must be a mistake. How could something this incredible not win the Nobel Prize?
I know. It must be because he's up for the Nobel Prize in Literature for his brilliant imaginary explanation of how a glucose and glycerin patch can make people think it's an FM radio that transmits messages to the body like a cell phone. Yeah, that's it. |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 | 09:15 PM
Joe said, Yet, it remains on the MLM level.
This is (I'm sure) because of David Schmidt's amazing altruism. He wants to make sure that many others can share the wealth. Or rather, provide the wealth...
I've noticed that lots of get-rich-quick schemes are started by incredibly generous people who claim to want nothing more than for everyone to have/pay for the ability (using their program) to makes tons of money with little effort.
I've also noticed that most genuinely successful people prefer to be at the top by themselves, and only enrich the masses by employing them. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 12:54 AM
Joe said:
"Also, I want a product like this to work/exist. I'm not against having something like this. It would be awesome."
Who WOULDN'T want something like this to work. Unfortunately, in the real world, wishing doesn't make it so.
I can speak for myself (and I'm virtually certain that this is true for the other LifeWave skeptics here): I'm not "against" the idea of a miracle patch that gives you energy. I just realize that the claims made for LifeWave are nonsense. Utter nonsense. The "purpose" of LifeWave is NOT to give anyone energy or whatever they claim; it's for the people at the top of the LifeWave pyramid to make money. It's really just that simple. This will eventually become abundantly clear, even to those who have sunk money into this scam. Actually, it will become PAINFULLY clear to them. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 12:59 AM
Captain Al said:
"LifeWave is a multi-million dollar company - if they made any false claims they could be sued"
That means you DC since you are representing them and repeating their claims. I hope you know what your're doing."
Great point, Cap. So, since you LifeWaver True Believers are SO sure of the claims made on behalf of the little plastic patches, would you care to say, right here on this forum, that you are making a PERSONAL GUARANTEE of those claims (beyond just refunding the price of them, I mean)? Any distributor want to climb further out on that limb? I will, of course, keep a copy of the personal guarantee to supply to anyone who wishes to take legal action against you when the scam falls apart. But, hey, since you guys are 100% certain that these things can do amazing things with NO undesired side effects, you should have no problem with a personal guarantee, right? Ready to put your money where your mouth is? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 01:04 AM
DC said:
"put that in your pipe and smoke it."
Well, that would do as much for your energy level as sticking the patches on your arm would." |
Laughing
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 01:04 AM
What is abundantly clear is that there are about 6 or 7 of you that have nothing better to do but talk about a company that you will never have one iota of influence over.
You guys need to get a life! |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 01:07 AM
DC said:
"The fastest triathlete runner in the world - Olympiast Cyle Sage, who I have met personally was wearing the patches when we set his record."
I understand he was wearing tight-whities when he set his record, too. I guess he should endorse Fruit of the Loom. You just can't argue with logic like DC's. |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 03:19 AM
Gee, Laughing, I guess you're right. I do have nothing better to do. At least not for the 15 or 20 minutes I spend doing this.
And, speaking entirely for myself, I really don't expect to influence the "company" of LifeWave. I hope that this message board might have a small influence on unsuspecting potential purchasers of the product that LifeWave sells. And maybe, in my hopes and dreams, I imagine that one or two of the distributors who stop by here might see the light.
But mostly, I'm just here to entertain myself... |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 05:29 AM
Well, lookie at what I found:
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/tfr/103243323.html
Apparently, LifeWave is doing SO well that they're turning to Craigslist just for the hell of it. 'Cause it's not like they're groping for people to sell this crap or anything.
By the way, don't you think that putting a recruiting ad for LifeWave distributors in the radio/TV/movies casting section of Craigslist is just a wee bit deceptive? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 06:30 AM
Cranky Media Guy
Deception is the name of the game, as you, WWSN1 and others have observed.
Some people are reasonably good at seeing through outrageous claims. They post here asking probing questions and waiting, waiting, waiting for a sensible response.
Others believe every word, because they want to live in a world where such promises really come to pass. There is still hope that they might yet see the light and save themselves heartache and financial loss.
The third group posts in this forum under many names and guises. These are the hard core out and out crooks. They know a scam when they see one, but they also know a good gamble.
They calculate the odds of this scam MLM going belly up in the near future and figure how much money they can extract before it does.
These faceless people continue to stroke themselves with words. Unfortunately they will only climax in pain not pleasure as the inevitable saga of this scam plays out.
One can only hope that the stinging pain gives them pause to reflect when they look at the next MLM scam and calculate the odds, but that would be naive of me.
These strokers have been here before. They are well versed in the inner workings of the scam culture. They read the probing questions and dip into their bag of mind numbing responses. With every word they reinforce their status as scam artists.
Penicillin anyone?
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A M Clark
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 04:02 PM
Hi all, I just stumbled on this website, after using these patches for the first time in the 2005 New Zealand South Island Masters Games mountainbike race. I won - easily - and felt like my bike had 'no chain'. spout off if you feel the need, but I'm going to investigate further. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 04:49 PM
A M Clark
Congratulations on your success.
Clearly, wearing the patches was the only reason you won. I presume the organisers will want to reconsider your position.
As for a bike with "no chain", the last one I rode like that wouldn't move at all!
If you are to "investigate" may I respectfully suggest you consult with people who know how to conduct a test at the level of a worldwide acceptable standard. That way you won't waste your time and the time of others when they read what would otherwise be essentially a worthless "study".
Keep on truckin'
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A M Clark
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 04:55 PM
Gee, you sure enjoy twisting other people's words to suit your cynical view of the world. You must enjoy the power flowing through your veins that this brings you. All I said was i tried them, I felt good, I'll look further.
As for testing, a Doctor from a local University specialising in Sports Physiology is going to do some VO2max testing under laboratory conditions. We'll see then! 😊 |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 05:01 PM
Fantastic,
Some real testing at last.
You get very jaded here reading the same old same old.
Are you in New Zealand?
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Razela
in Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 05:02 PM
Thank you A M Clark for hereby making it pretty damn obvious that you aren't just a random passer-by.
Seems like 99% of the lifewavers on this forumn have a hand in the lifewave business and money invested in their success. |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 05:02 PM
The most deceptive part of the craigslist help wanted ad is Compensation: BASED ON EXPERIENCE.
...or maybe not, if I think about it. My experience is, things like magic cell phone patches don't work. So I guess, the more experienced you are, the less you get compensated. |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 05:10 PM
AM Clark,
Enjoy your success now because when your competitors here about the secret of the patches, they'll get some too and then you'll be back where you started. Or maybe it will depend on who gets the most benefit from the placebo effect.
Let us know how you do at the World Championships. |
A M Clark
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 05:10 PM
Yes, I'm in New Zealand.
Judging by the comments in this thread, it's about time someone came up with some facts, rather than everyone just throwing stones...
...I'm quite tired of people wasting their lives flaming posters on webforums, just because it's the only way their lives seem to then serve any purpose.
I will keep you posted. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 05:32 PM
A M Clark
Perhaps when you get home this evening you might look at all the postings on this site. It will include both sides of the argument.
I must say, though, that your initial comments and replies do make you look like just another LifeWaver.
We are also quite tired of the usual LifeWaver Speak served up on this forum with mononous regularity.
Don't be put off and be sure to keep us posted. It's always intersting to see how David's company plays out in other countries.
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A M Clark
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 05:39 PM
Yeah, I hear you.
I'm not a distributor, and have only tried them the once - heck, I only found this website by doing some homework on them.
I'm sorry if I picture some of the extreme cynics as belong to the 60% of obese Americans prodding at their keyboards with burger grease encrusted podgy fingers....
I'll come back only when I have some facts for you - one way or the other. 😊 |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 05:50 PM
A M Clark
Hopefully, if you read all the postings (and it will take quite a while) you will realize what LifeWave patches are all about and save yourself the trouble of going any further.
If you decide to test what is essentially a brown glucose patch and white glycerin patch (as reported by the LifeWave company)how will you design your test criteria?
Where do you plan to purchase your placebo patches from? They will, of course need to be exactly like the "real" ones in every way. How will you ensure the double blind aspect of your study?
How do you intend to rule out the warm up effects on muscles and the subsequent difficulties in obtaining apples to apples measurements?
I know these seem like a lot of questions, but if you intend on conducting a bona fide study, it will actually be the first one of its kind in the world so you will have a heavy responsibility to report your techniques and have them verified.
Good luck with it anyway and I'm jealous that we are going into Tuesday evening as you go into Wednesday afternoon! Hope you have good weather!
Cheers, from one of the people who use this forum as their crossword puzzle equivalent time.
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EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 06:13 PM
Interesting?
LifeWave website:
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 | 10:12 PM
This is a great link. Check it out.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nanotech/message/4938 |
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