MOH Forum: LifeWave Energy Patches

LifeWave Energy Patches

Posted By:
Fawkes
Feb 24, 2005

Now you can get more energy from a patch! I especially like the way that
they "believe" that it works. It is also based on years of research from
many fields. While the research may be valid, I'm not sure that their
results were intended to be used with a "patent pending blend of water,
oxygen, amino acids and organics applied to a polyester fabric and sealed
within a polymer shell".

http://www.contactplus.com/lifewave.htm

We can finally have our super-soldiers now!

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Accipiter Member	Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 \| 10:18 PM The great thing about Smerk is that she doesn't get her good looks from some silly LifeWave patch. Rather, she is energised by the amazing power of her patented SmerkFreckles (TM). Buy your own today! If you don't, you're just a hater, and probably smell bad! Billions of people may or may not have bought them for themselves, and experienced either results or else experienced some experience in lieu of results!
EDHUK Member	Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 \| 06:20 AM Accipiter Profound!!
Joel Member	Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 \| 07:32 PM According to one guy (who is clearly a new age dolt himself): <i>
Cranky Media Guy	Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 \| 08:55 PM I did a double-take when I read the part about 528 Hz being the frequency of the light green. I read it twice to make sure I hadn't misunderstood it. A person with a high school education would (or should) know that a frequency that low would be in the audible part of the spectrum. These people shouldn't be allowed to use the word "science" in any context.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 \| 09:10 PM Just when you think "Dr." David Schmidt can't get any funnier...he does!
Joel Member	Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 \| 10:32 AM To be fair to "not really a doctor but I play one to help sell my patches to gullible people" David Schmidt, perhaps what Schmidt actually said was that 528 <i>nanometers</i> is green light.
jayessell Member	Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 \| 11:00 AM So the light from a green laser pointer has magic powers? Good to know!
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 \| 11:25 AM Joel, You are a kind and very fair person! 528nm was probably what he said. The green phosphor used in oscilloscopes, according to Wikipedia. Of course, in the case of sociopath David (not a doctor or a scientist but does have a 2 year business degree from Pace University) Schmidt, referring to green light in the context of his SCAM patches would be like me stating... Water is composed of hydrogen and oxygen molecules in a precise relationship, therefore the wood I am holding can alter your pain receptors to the "off" position and your pain will disappear. Sign up to my piece of special wood MLM and make some cash at the same time!
Joel Member	Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 \| 12:14 PM EDHUK, that's a good (and funny) analogy!
Joel Member	Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 \| 12:19 PM EDHUK, does your wood (containing hydrogen and oxygen molecules in a precise relationship) also produce a surgery-free face lifts, and stop people from snoring, and restore failing eyesight in old people, and reverse Autism in children, and protect against malaria and chemical warfare agents, and increase how much people can bench press, and make Haltiwanger shed those extra pounds? If I hold the wood backwards and hold it up to opposing lineman on a football team, will it sap their strength and energy, just as Lifewave patches have been advertised to do?
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 \| 01:33 PM Joel, But of course!
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 \| 01:35 PM Joel, Uh Oh... Somebody beat me to the post. http://life-enthusiast.com/usa/life-regular-p-770.html
EDHUK Member	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 09:53 AM LifeWave keeps on going and going.... But, at least, it's free to get in now! http://www.lifewave.com/ MARK YOUR CALENDARS! Special LifeWave Meeting in Pasadena, CA Featuring LifeWave Founder & CEO, David Schmidt Saturday, August 28, 2010 Time: 9am - 5pm Cost: Members FREE / Guests FREE Location: Sheraton Pasadena Hotel - 303 E. Cordova St, Pasadena, CA View Map / Hotel Website Notes: Public parking $9 / Your own lunch
Joel Member	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 11:25 AM <b>SO NOW I'VE TRIED LIFEWAVE PATCHES. THEY DON'T WORK.</b> I was in the Pasadena area on Saturday, August 28, so I dropped by for a few minutes at the Lifewave event at the Sheraton Pasadena. There were about 100-125 people there by my estimation, about half of them being Filipino. I guess "Dr." David Schmidt has found a receptive target culture for his silly patches. I didn't know that extreme plastic surgery was so popular among Filipino women, but maybe that was just the women I sat between. David Schmidt was taking volunteers from the audience to try his pain patches. I went up there to volunteer to get patched. I thought it would be fun to get patched by "Dr." Schmidt himself. Unfortunately there was a line of volunteers ahead of me, and the patching pain relief demonstrations were going slowly enough that I couldn't stay. The first volunteer said her pain was going away "so fast I feel lightheaded" as repeated by Schmidt into his microphone. For another woman, I saw Schmidt put the patches on her, and she would look as though was concentrating, then tentatively shake her head (I believe she was telling Schmidt that no, she didn't feel any difference), so Schmidt would move the patches around and try it again. So it looks like part of the demonstration scheme is: If a volunteer says she feels no pain difference, then keep moving the patches around until she finally says, "Well, yes, I think I feel some lessening of the pain now," then announce proudly, "Another Lifewave success!" Since the volunteer line was moving so slowly, instead I approached a Lifewave distributor working the sign-up desk and asked if I could try the pain patches. After his wife, a distributor, put the patches on my jeans over my knee where I still haven't recovered from a recent knee injury, there was, of course, no lessening of the mild pain I have there. So now I can say that, "Yes, I've tried the patches, and they produced no effect." I asked the distributor whether Schmidt has a science degree. She assured me that he does. I asked in what. Her husband who is also a distributor piped in and said, "I think it's in biology. I think he used to work for the government." So Lifewave distributors clearly don't know the first thing about "Dr." David Schmidt's real background. No surprise there. I told her I thought the patches were a scam, and that Schmidt doesn't have a science degree. She said that I should ignore the "bad vibes about the company" on the Internet. She told me that Lifewave instructs distributors that if someone feels relief, they can buy the patches they tried for $6, otherwise the distributor must retrieve the patches back from the person. I told her that I'd buy the patches from her even though they didn't work, and she took my $6 happily enough. So now I have actual Lifewave pain patches, and can make up a feels-like placebo patch easily. Once I put the placebo patch in an outer envelope of some opaque material, people wouldn't be able to detect a difference just by sight from a placebo patch in an envelope versus a Lifewave patch in an envelope. Is there a single Lifewave employee or distributor out there that would like to film themselves or anyone else they designate trying to tell the difference between placebo patches in an opaque envelope and Lifewave patches in an opaque envelope, just by feeling whether your pain goes away or any other effect of your choosing? We'll film everything and post it on Youtube. The challenge is open especially to "Dr." David Schmidt and barely-still-a-doctor Steven Haltiwanger. Hey Nanoman: I've tried the patches. Have you tried Joel's placebo test?
Razela in Chicago, IL Member	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 11:31 AM Thanks for the report Joel! Even at their "free" event you can't get even one patch for free.
Joel Member	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 12:08 PM Razela, I think that's part of the self-selection mechanism. By not giving away free patches, Schmidt makes sure that the only people who receive patches are the people who are receptive to the idea that maybe sugar and glycerin patches are worth $6 per pair. They're the people who are ready and willing to believe -- ready to ask Jesus into their hearts, so to speak.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 12:27 PM Hey Joel, When I posted the event above I had lost count of the date and didn't realize it had happened. Glad you got to go and experience the scam first hand. Of course, Schmidt would have a thousand reasons why your "no effect" experience should be ignored by the LifeWave faithful. It's still amazing to see this scam functioning 5 + years on. It's also interesting to note that when Schmidt aimed the scam at the Philippines he adjusted the explanation for the patches mode of action. I think we discussed it on this thread a while back. http://www.lifewave.com/meetingscalls/pdf/PhilippinesItinerary.pdf Here's the video aimed at the Philippines market. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-n6okSCIdY They talk about LIGHT! "Inventor, scientist and seeker of truth". LOL
Joel Member	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 12:40 PM >> They talk about LIGHT! Of course, light doesn't penetrate very well through jeans, now does it?
EDHUK Member	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 12:49 PM Anyone for a boat ride? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WsSaSjIMjg
Joel Member	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 01:01 PM Oh wouldn't that be fun, for the Lifewave cruise to be infiltrated by a bunch of skeptics loaded for bear with documents, information, logic, and placebo challenge tests!
Cranky Media Guy	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 01:40 PM "Of course, light doesn't penetrate very well through jeans, now does it?" Well, not your closed-minded WESTERN light! Mystical EASTERN light penetrates perfectly well, in a way that your "science" doesn't understand. Do I have this gibberish down yet?
EDHUK Member	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 01:49 PM CMG Perfect. I feel beaten down with your superior logic!
Joel Member	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 03:26 PM >> "Mystical EASTERN light penetrates perfectly well" Well, the woman next to me at the Pasadena Lifewave meeting had <i>some</i> advanced technology that was trying its best to burst through the fabric of her tight red dress.
Cranky Media Guy	Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 \| 05:10 PM What, no photos of her "advanced technology," Joel? I think we'd all like to see this breakthrough in technology.
Pomm	Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 \| 02:20 AM I do agree LifeWave is Cheating the world We have our GrandPa close friends in his 80 yrs old was TMC in China he teach us regarding the Patch is Works Becouse You Must Put to The Right Points of Body Meridian the compositions in patch looks comand in our nature resource but there are something like placebo due to the Maget Powder glaze on the Patch and react with human body our humant body has magnet circulate because we have blood in our blood contain metal which is natureal and the Deceive Patch Shown the Powerful Plus they cheating MLM process including high price to make money recently they website mention due to the Mold on the Patches and previous month the said the web has overflush of order during have discount promotion Guys out there Do you think is obvious??? David Schmit and Your Evil Company including your cheating Team We Wish You Best Of Luck when You Meet God Of Hell.He is the one to Judge You RIGHT OR WRONG? Pomm Angela Singapore
Joel Member	Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 \| 03:48 PM <b>THE NEXT LIFEWAVE PATCH: A FEMALE SEX DRIVE PATCH</b> <b>Fake Pill Improved Sex Drive in Women</b> <i>According to a paper released today in the Journal of Sexual Medicine, the placebo effect may increase sex drive for women suffering from sexual dysfunction. * * * [R]esearchers discovered that . . . one out of three women had their previously low level of desire restored to one considered to be normal with placebo.</i> http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/16/fake-pill-improved-sex-drive-in-women/ (in case anybody still doubts the power of the placebo effect)
EDHUK Member	Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 \| 04:02 PM "It's not that these women simply believed, 'a sugar pill will help me,'" said Bradford, a post-doctoral fellow at Baylor College of Medicine and the Michael E. DeBakey VA Medical Center. "Other elements were probably therapeutic, regardless of the tablet." The subjects wouldn't have know it was a sugar pill, right? Joel, As you know, I have posted the Ann Arbor research on pain/placebo her many times. In that study they found real physiological changes in the brain using a PET scan. I guess this study didn't proceed with using the PET scan as it's difficult to fit two people in the scanner, and you have to stay still!!!
Joel Member	Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 \| 05:12 PM EDHUK, the placebo effect on pain is pretty amazing. I've personally watched Schmidt use it to significant effect twice now. I'm not sure I would have believed how effective it is to sell worthless crap if I hadn't seen it with my own two eyes. Speaking of pain relief scams . . . if you go on ftc.gov, there's still no mention on that website of the iRenew (scam) pain relief bracelet. It looks like the FTC plans to wait several years and several hundred millions of dollars in scam profits before the FTC begins to think about shutting down the iRenew scam, like they did with the scam Q-Ray bracelet. I did a quick check of the most recent actions filed by the FTC over the last year and a half, which can be viewed at http://www.ftc.gov/os/adjpro/index.shtml. I didn't have time to look back farther in time than that. As far as I can tell from that page, in the last year and a half (and I'm guessing much longer than that) the FTC has not filed a single lawsuit against any company for selling scam products. Instead, the FTC spends its time and money filing lawsuits against people who falsely claim that the paper towels they sell are "biodegradable" (http://www.ftc.gov/os/adjpro/d9336/index.shtm), or to prevent the merger of two companies that would supposedly harm competition in the field of "drycast concrete hardscapes" (http://www.ftc.gov/os/adjpro/d9335/index.shtm), or against North Carolina dentists for unfairly stifling competition for teeth whitening services (http://www.ftc.gov/os/adjpro/d9343/index.shtm). The clear message from the FTC is: <i>If you sell real paper towels that actually do something, but you misrepresent one of their characteristics such as how quickly they degrade in the wild, we'll come down on you like a ton of bricks. But if the products you're selling are complete and utter scams from beginning to end, and don't do any of what you advertise them to do, we'll leave you completely alone. If you want to scam people, then scam them big, and go with our blessings.</i> Perhaps we should start a new Hoax Forum thread: The FTC Hoax.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 \| 07:59 PM Joel, "Perhaps we should start a new Hoax Forum thread: The FTC Hoax." Absolutely! I don't know how people like James Randi keep going. On my very small scale, I get frustrated at the inaction of Government in areas where they are sorely needed. The fact that companies can set up and sell their scam products so easily is perplexing to say the least. To see products like the iRenew bracelet scam on TV, as bold as brass and Companies like Amega Global rewriting the laws of nature, makes you wonder what you have to do to get noticed?
Cranky Media Guy	Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 \| 12:53 AM "To see products like the iRenew bracelet scam on TV, as bold as brass and Companies like Amega Global rewriting the laws of nature, makes you wonder what you have to do to get noticed?" Not pay off the right politicians, maybe?
jayessell Member	Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 \| 07:28 PM Too bad this forum doesn't permit photos. In my latest Dr. Leonard's Healthcare Catalog, on the back cover: Balance your body -Balance your life! (Also Available in White) #@#@#@#@#@#@# Individual results may vary. This product is not a medical device. Specify color on order. iRenew Bracelet $19.99 Sheesh! If you can't trust Dr. Leonard...!!!! Dang! I should have bought a few dozen from China when I had the chance!
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 \| 08:28 PM jayessell http://www.drleonards.com/ Perhaps we should contact the good "Dr." !
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 \| 08:37 PM Remember the Q Ray bracelet? http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/07/23/irenew-energy-balance-bracelet-fends-off-imaginary-forces/ They had to refund almost $87 Million!
Joel Member	Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 \| 09:50 AM <i>"They had to refund almost $87 Million!"</i> If only that were true. What actually happened, at least as of the Seventh Circuit's decision announced below, is that the court ordered the company to pay a "minimum disgorgement" of $15.9 million, and "up to $87 million in refunds to consumers." http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2008/01/qray.shtm I believe what that means is that: 1. The FTC gets $15.9 million for its own coffers. (Note the incentive that gives the FTC to wait until a huge amount of money has been scammed from people before bringing a lawsuit. It's extremely lucrative business for the FTC to wait until a lot of money has been stolen before taking action). 2. Then, the Q-Ray people have to give back a <i>maximum</i> of $87 million to consumers <i>who actually request a refund.</i> Query how many consumers who bought scam Q-ray bracelets ended up: (a) learning about the settlement, (b) still having the documentation to show that they bought the bracelet up to 4 or 5 years ago; and then (c) actually going to the trouble of requesting a refund. I'm guessing that a relatively small amount of Q-ray sales actually got refunded. I did a quick look and couldn't find any follow-up report on the FTC's website stating how much money actually got returned to Q-ray buyers, or even whether a single penny got refunded to anybody. Oh, the FTC certainly trumpeted their filing of the lawsuit, and they trumpeted the court rulings, but they don't seem to mention how many people actually got their money back. What does that tell you about where the FTC's priorities truly lie? The end result: 1. the people who sold the Q-Ray bracelet got rich and, once all was said and done, they stayed rich. 2. The FTC made a lot of money. 3. A lot of consumers lost a lot of money. Great going, FTC. Pat yourselves on the back. If anyone has any information that I'm wrong about how this actually played out, I'd love to hear it. On this point, I'd love to be wrong.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 \| 12:46 PM Joel "On this point, I'd love to be wrong." Sadly, I'm sure you're right! I wonder if Elizabeth Warren, the new Consumer Protection Chief will do any better? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/17/AR2010091706828.html
Joel Member	Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 \| 05:17 PM Update on how the Q-Ray scam played out, and how useless the FTC
hcmomof4 in So. Cal. Member	Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 \| 08:40 PM Sadly, the 800K doesn't seem to have been spent on actually teaching that, but merely on a STUDY to see if it is practical to try...
Joel Member	Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 \| 12:11 PM It's now been 8 years since Schmidt filed a patent application on September 25, 2002, and he still doesn't have a patent in the U.S. or anywhere in the world. Yet still, no pharmaceutical company in the world has shown any interest in copying his unpatented (and therefore perfectly free to copy) patches. Imagine that.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 \| 01:49 PM Joel, I wonder if Schmidt has scammed enough cash to be of interest to the regulatory boys?
Cranky Media Guy	Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 \| 02:28 AM The reason is simple, Joel. Only "Dr." Schmidt knows the secret incantation that has to be mumbled over the patches as they exit the manufacturing process. What do you think makes them work, silly?
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 \| 02:58 AM CMG That would be MMMM as in Make Me More Money!
Joel Member	Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 \| 05:36 PM <b> ONE STEP FORWARD, ONE STEP BACK FOR THE FTC</b> One step forward: POM WONDERFUL CHARGED WITH SELLING SNAKE OIL. In a lawsuit filed today, the Federal Trade Commission said POM Wonderful violated trade laws by making "false and unsubstantiated claims" that its products will prevent or treat heart disease, prostrate cancer, and erectile dysfunction. http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/27/news/companies/POM_Wonderful/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin One step back: The FTC paid to have a computer game written and posted online for kids to download and play to teach them how to spot deceptive advertising. http://www.admongo.gov/ "Live the Adventure." The FTC apparently thought that writing a computer game (that, let's face it, is any child ever going to play?) would be better than, say, shutting down David Bullschmidt and his claims that his completely snake oil patches will, for example, cure childhood autism. Perhaps the lawyers at the FTC should play the game with their children so that the FTC lawyers can learn to spot deceptive advertising, too. At least POM has actual juice in it.
Cranky Media Guy	Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 \| 05:56 PM So I should stop pouring Pom on my penis, Joel?
Cranky Media Guy	Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 \| 05:57 PM That IS how that was supposed to work, right?
Joel Member	Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 \| 09:22 PM CMG: Yeah, don't pour any more POM down there, just use David Bullschmidt's patches to balance the energy flow in your penis. Are there any traditional Chinese acupuncture points on the penis? That could be painful.
Cranky Media Guy	Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 \| 12:50 AM Also known as OW-cupuncture.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 \| 02:51 AM We're on page 282 and sociopath David (not a doctor or a scientist but does have a 2 year business administration degree from Pace University) Schmidt, continues to laugh all the way to the bank. His "revolutionary" non-transdermal patches seem rather old hat these days compared to products like the Amega Global AMWand that shoots Zero Point Energy out the end of the "pen". The general public is in love with "alternative" products and don't seem to be too worried if they are being taken to the cleaners in the process.
jayessell Member	Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 \| 05:12 PM If only there was <b><i>something</i></b> to replace the expression "snake oil". It sounds so 19th century! Pomegranate Juice? Homeopathetic?
EDHUK Member	Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 \| 08:09 PM jayessell For some reason POM was singled out for unsubstantiated claims. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2010/09/pom.shtm I guess patches that "talk" to you body sounds very reasonable!
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 \| 09:02 PM Our worries are over. This chap has the answer and, apparently has been in business since 1996. Puts LifeWave et. al. to shame! http://www.alexchiu.com/eternallife/
Joel Member	Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 \| 07:20 PM <b>A magnetic rings that allow you to live forever! </b> Not bad, Alex Chiu. That's much, much better than a stupid Lifewave patch. He even has a patent on it - U.S. Patent No. 5,989,178. That goes to show you that the PTO definitely does not test an "invention" to verify that the thing actually performs as advertised.
Joel Member	Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 \| 07:55 PM Speaking of patents, here's the latest status on "Dr." David Schmidt's patent application. Schmidt moved up from having a law student work on trying to get a patent for his this-will-completely-revolutionize-medicine invention. Schmidt has now hired D. Bejamin Esplin at the firm of Pillsbury Winthrop in San Diego. According to his bio page, http://www.pillsburylaw.com/index.cfm?pageID=15&itemID=21029&view=10, Mr. Esplin received his law degree in 2007. Hiring a third year patent lawyer to replace the law student must mean that Schmidt is <i>really</i> serious now about obtaining his patent. According to his bio, Mr. Esplin's area of technological expertise is a perfect fit for Lifewave - he specializes in "virtual worlds and video games." The PTO denied Schmidt's patent application multiple times. Mr. Esplin (who at the time had been a lawyer for slightly more than two years) appealed the denial to the Appeals Board, and the Appeals Board has now scheduled a hearing for November 2 at their office in Virginia. They want the attorney to come in and present his arguments in person. That could be a <i>very<i/> interesting hearing. Does any reader of this forum live in the Alexandria, Virginia area and want to attend and report what happens at that hearing?
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 \| 09:12 PM Joel, As Schmidt appears to conduct his "inventing" in a virtual world, a virtual world specialist attorney would seem to be just the ticket! Who cares, right. I'll be wearing my new magnetic ring and can outlive Schmidt and all of his company!!
Cranky Media Guy	Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 \| 01:12 AM I haven't lived in the D.C. area for several years now but I recall the PTO offices as being on Route 1, not far from Crystal City and National Airport. Does anyone know how these hearing are conducted? Are interested parties allowed to testify at them?
Joel Member	Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 \| 11:28 AM I'm pretty sure the PTO will not allow testimony from third parties. This hearing will probably be confined to the very narrow question that is presented in the appeal briefs, namely, whether the patent claims as they are currently written are limited to non-transdermal patches, and if not, don't the claims then read on prior art transdermal patches and are therefore old (ineligible for a patent)? The people on the Appeals Board will probably all have read the patent application from cover to cover, however (which the patent Examiner may not have done), complete with its description of humans as giant thermocouples, and Lifewave patches with their "Grandma molasses" and "Sioux honey" creating clockwise and counterclockwise swirling energy vortices. So the members of the Appeals Board <i>might</i> ask the attorney something like, "Isn't this product a joke and a fraud, and aren't you actively assisting a fraud?" It's conceivable. When they issue their written decision, which I'll let y'all know how to access when it becomes available, they may or may not address the ridiculous nature of Schmidt's "invention."
EDHUK Member	Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 \| 12:48 PM Joel and CMJ As you know, from the very beginning when David Schmidt posted "Patent Pending", these words have always been used to imply authenticity of the outrageous claims made about the patches. If Schmidt is granted a Patent, he will milk it for every cent. However, as we also know, a Patent only means something is novel and is not duplicating something that has already been invented. There are scams currently running that have a patent #. Let's not forget Alex Chiu who has been in "business" since 1996 with US PATENT # 5,989,178 Does the Patent mean he really will live forever? I suppose only time will tell!
EDHUK Member	Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 \| 12:57 PM Notice that Alex Chiu was granted his patent in 1999 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,989,178.PN.&OS=PN/5,989,178&RS=PN/5,989,178
EDHUK Member	Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 \| 01:00 PM "The whole human body is a magnetic community. Each individual cell is a magnet and has polarities of North and South just like a regular magnet. That is why cells attract each other and form finally into a more complicated community, an animal body." If the parent office agrees with this type of description, Schmidt's patches should sail through, right?
Joel Member	Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 \| 01:20 PM <i>If the patent office agrees with this type of description, Schmidt's patches should sail through, right?</i> Normally, yes. But Schmidt is appealing the patent examiner's rejection of his application to the Appeals Board. That means that the Appeals Board will have to study the application carefully, and will issue a written decision either affirming or overruling the patent examiner. The Appeals Board might not want to appear as though they're putting the Patent Office's stamp of approval on a fraud after having been forced to look more closely than usual at such a ridiculous "invention." The path of least resistance (least work) for the Appeals Board will be to not question the "science" and simply assume that what Schmidt says is true. That is the presumption that they normally give to every patent applicant, because the Patent Office does not have the time or money to independently verify whether something does what the inventor claims it does. So it could go either way.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 \| 03:09 PM I think Nanoman put forward this name a few years back as some sort of "evidence" that real science was being conducted associated with Schmidt's wacky patches. Beverly Rubik, PhD Seems the good doctor has been busy with another area of solid "science", Live Blood Analysis. http://www.westonaprice.org/health-issues/1835-pilot-research-study-live-blood-analysis-of-adults.html Could it be that scams run in the blood?
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