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Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 | 01:42 PM
Candy Wrappers said:
"It's similar to the god (and devil) question - you will never be able to proof if all about it is fake or if the opposition just misses the point."
Absolutely not true. Yes, the existence of God cannot be tested but the effects (or lack thereof) of a physical object CAN be tested. That's what science does every single day.
You might want to do some research into "double blind testing." That would be a good place to start. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 | 09:58 PM
I noticed that some awards were given out to cutting edge nanotechnology researchers recently.
Strange...I didn't see David Schmidt's name mentioned.
Maybe he wants to hide his light under a bushel! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 | 10:03 PM
In New Zealand they are still using a dead man to promote LifeWave.
http://patch4u.co.nz/blue/PAGES/Energy_Enhancer.html
When will they let Coach Quick RIP? |
brucemiles
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 | 11:40 PM
Hello everybody,
I have all posts. I do agree with Smerk.
I am so happy to see this forum.
Thanks |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 | 05:50 PM
The list gets longer...
CieAura, Power Balance, Mojo Future Tech, Advita Energy, 8ight, EFX, The Golf Chip, Fusion Excel, Biopro, Biodisc, Chi Energy Pendant, Q-Link, Nu Me Pendant, Zero Point Energy Wand, Scalar Energy Pendant, Amega Global, Aulterra, GiaWellness, AquaGia, Harmony Chip, S.W.A.T.S., Tesla Purple Plates, Life Energy P.E. BAL EMF Field Protection Pyramid |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 | 06:00 PM
I'm surprised there aren't even more of those things out there, EDHUK. After all, they cost very little to produce and sell at a high mark-up. It's a nice living, assuming you have no scruples or conscience about taking money from people under a false pretense. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 | 06:13 PM
CMG
My list is just the tip of the iceberg.
I've been adding to it as I see things on YouTube.
Even when products such as the Power Balance bracelet are exposed as a fraud on Australian television, the YouTube videos keep on coming! |
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 | 04:25 PM
Well... YouTube is a much more reliable source of info than supporters of Big Pharma.... |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 | 09:38 PM
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
I posted a comment to a woman in Australia about the James Randi hoax of a few years ago involving Carlos. That was the guy Randi named after his cat. The whole thing was a set up with 60 minutes in cahoots. Thousands of Australians came out to see him perform...and believed him.
This Australian lady replied that how could you believe the Australian 60 minutes program!
Can you believe that?
I gave her the info on the hoax and all she could say was that 60 minutes in Australia was lying!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8392582596446539758 |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 | 10:39 PM
Oh, that reminds me!! In two weeks I will be attending my third (and 1/2) TAM, which I first learned about in this thread.
Being involved with the JREF has been a wonderful life changing experience for me, and I thank whoever it was that brought it up all those years ago!! |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 | 10:43 PM
Oh, and I've met Jose Alvarez!! (Carlos) |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 | 01:45 AM
hcmomof4, that might have been me that brought up JREF (although I'm not sure). I've been a HUGE Randi fan for years. I've been sending him links to things I know he'd be interested in for ages. He's used several of them on his website.
Remember a while back when he tried to get the manufacturer of a multi-thousand-dollar audio cable to take the Million Dollar Challenge (which got a lot of media coverage)? That came from a link I sent to him. I've even spoken to Randi on the phone, although I've never met him in person. The guy's a true hero.
I'm jealous of you for attending TAM's. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 | 10:00 AM
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
and CMG
I'm always saddened to think that James Randi will never receive the level of acknowledgement he deserves for the outstanding work he does.
I'll be interested to read if TAM addresses the huge increase in the "new age" product SCAMS.
I wonder what people think about the number of items for sale on Amazon etc. that are clearly SCAMS? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 | 01:39 PM
Yup, EDHUK, Randi is an authentic hero. My wife and I have been talking for years about what a loss it will be when Randi dies. There just doesn't seem to be anyone out there with the same combination of devotion to the cause and showmanship that Randi has.
The person closest to that combination that I can think of is Penn Jillette but I don't know if he's ready to give up his career and devote all his time to something like JREF. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 | 08:41 PM
CMG
People talk rubbish about the JREF Million Dollar challenge.
The scam artists always say the money isn't there etc.
Funny thing is, Randi would REALLY like someone to win the money!
He wants someone to prove that there is something beyond the rational scientific world that obeys the laws of science.
Any takers? |
Razela
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 | 09:26 PM
Randi is my hero too! I met him at last year's TAM and I almost cried. He was so nice and sweet and we chatted for a brief moment.
hcmomof4, I'll be at TAM again this year! Come find me. Real name - Jamie Bernstein. We'll have a drink to the downfall of lifewave, no? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 | 01:00 AM
EDHUK, actually, Randi ended the Million Dollar Challenge about a year ago. He said that the effort to deal with applications by people who had ZERO chance of passing the test was straining the resources of JREF. You're right, though, the critics had always claimed that Randi didn't have the money, even though he publicly posted the information about the account the money was in.
I'm jealous of you, Razela, for getting to meet Randi. He has a reputation for being somewhat grumpy but he couldn't have been nicer when I talked to him on the phone. I'm sure he doesn't know it, but he and I have a mutual friend in Alan Abel, the media hoaxer. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 | 07:42 AM
CMG
I wonder why the challenge info is still posted?
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html
The current account info is also posted.
http://www.randi.org/challenge/goldmansachs.pdf |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 | 08:56 AM
The MDC has been altered a bit, but is still going strong. There had been hopes to have another preliminary challenge live at TAM this year, but so far it isn't going to happen. :(
Razela, my name is No |
Razela
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 | 06:44 PM
I think the challenge was going to end, but then when Phil Plait became president he decided to keep it.
hcmomof4, we are totally going to find each other at TAM this year. Last year I practically LIVED in the Del Mar Lounge. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 | 06:47 PM
Ah, so Plait decided to continue the MDC. So long as the JREF staff can handle the entries, I think that's probably a good thing. The MDC has certainly brought JREF a lot of attention since Randi started it.
Long live Randi! Long live reason! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 | 02:23 PM
So, well over 5 years on and the LifeWave SCAM is still up and running, or limping, depending on your point of view.
This distributor has an interesting set of suggestions as to how the patches work.
http://www.energy1st.net/?gclid=CN6x48PEuaICFQG3sgodwVlF5Q
"Lifewave patches communicate with your body for as long as you wear the patch, all day or all night."
"Software for the human body is the term used to describe the patches because the patch sends instructions to the cells."
"Specifically designed informational molecular crystals (in the patches) can simply be placed on acupoints. These crystals bend light to certain frequencies, signaling the body to perform certain functions more efficiently."
"And just like acupuncture the results are often within 10 seconds. Increased energy levels, pain relief, deep restful sleep, profound antioxidant boosting, and more"
"The molecular crystals in the patches are constructed from atoms and act as nano scale antennas."
"The patches have no vent holes and effectively trap body heat, to stimulate acupoints by a mild form of moxibustion."
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Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 | 05:26 PM
"The |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 | 09:38 PM
CMG
Funny thing is some actually posted the frequency in this forum thread some years back. Turned out it was similar to an FM radio station signal.
Go figure! |
Joel
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 | 10:30 PM
>> OK, so what's the frequency these patches "transmit" on?
That's just the beginning of questions regarding these tiny cell phones and the signals they transmit to the body.
Is the signal frequency modulated or amplitude modulated? Is the encoded signal analog or digital? Are the sidelobes and sidebands suppressed, and if so by what mechanism, but if not, how does the body know to reject the sidelobes and sidebands? Is the signal frequency shift keying, phase shift keying, or Manchester (biphase) encoded? What's the minimum signal to noise ratio needed from these gizmos before the body's cells begin misinterpreting the signals and doing harm to the body, and what is the actual signal to noise ratio experienced at the cellular level? How far into the body does the signal penetrate before it falls below the minimum acceptable signal-to-noise ratio? How does the body separate Lifewave signals from all other signals and frequencies in the environment? Are there any cyclic redundancy checks, hamming codes, or other error detecting and correcting mechanisms to help ensure that if part of the signal doesn't get received properly, the body will detect the transmission error and not damage itself by obeying an incorrectly received command?
Repeat all of the above questions for each amazing thing that these that little gizmos are supposed to do to the body, and to each different type of cell.
Where's either the theory or the empirical research data to show that these frequencies and signal types will have the effects claimed on all of the different cells of the body as claimed by Lifewave?
This is from an electrical engineer who took a class or two in communication theory and related subjects in undergraduate and graduate electrical engineering school. That pretty much guarantees that I know more about communication theory and things like frequency modulation than either "Dr." David Schmidt or psychiatrist Steven Haltiwanger can ever dream of. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 | 01:03 AM
EDHUK, well, if the patches transmission fell on the FM band between 88.1 and 107.9, it should be audible with any standard radio. The patches would also have to pass FCC approval and would have a notice to that effect on the packaging.
Joel: Details, details. Sheesh, EVERYONE knows that the patches transmit using an organic New Age method unknown to your conventional Western-thinking scientists. Do Schmidt and Haltiwanger have to explain EVERYTHING to you little brains?? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 | 10:19 PM
The woo woo has just got even crazier.
We've all seen the proliferation of "energy wands" like Amega.
Now people are posting YouTube videos where they "wand" a cigarette.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB-q2Xx42WE&feature=related
Watch it and weep! |
Joel
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 | 09:15 PM
Just saw an ad last night on TV for a new energy bracelet: iRenew. It's the same B.S. as Lifewave, Cieaura, 8ight, and all the other complete scam products: Gives you strength and energy, balances your biofield, makes you sleep better, blah blah blah.
They even used the same old "muscle test" parlor trick, i.e., "See how our employee can push your arm down when you're not wearing our bracelet, but when you wear our bracelet see that you're strong enough that our employee can't push your arm down anymore." The crooks that push this product are bold enough to push it right there on TV, in front of God, the FTC, and everybody.
"Hello, Earth to FTC! Don't you have a job to do?"
Are all the FTC employees watching porn on their computers 12 hours a day now?
Well, a fool and his money . . . |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 | 08:34 PM
I wonder if LifeWavers are still glowing over the Suzanne Sommers endorsement of LifeWave patches?
Maybe not glowing quite as bright!
"The former actress has one of the nation |
EDHUK
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 | 09:26 PM
Any feedback from TAM would be appreciated.
Does anyone even mention LifeWave and all these other scams? |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 | 08:31 PM
I managed to miss the panel about alternative medicine, although I can't remember why. If LifeWave, etc. came up at all, it would have been then.
I also managed to miss Razela... Too many people, too little time. |
VERNON
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 | 01:04 PM
I see many comments regarding lifewave and understand that co. went down and KEN REASNER left lifewave and started his own business! tell me about him and CIEAURA |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 | 04:03 PM
Vernon in Kansas.
Not sure why a distributor for CieAura needs info on KEN REASNER other than to see how he spells his name correctly.
Ken Rasner.
Perhaps you'd like to read about Ken on the Hoax Forum CieAura thread, you think?
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forums/viewthread/10252/ |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 | 04:05 PM
As to LifeWave going out of business.
Sadly, after 5 + years, they are still scamming people around the world. Just trying to stay one jump ahead of the regulators. |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 | 12:52 PM
Y'know... Big Pharma is in it ONLY for the money, but the poor little homeopathic companies...
http://www.boiron.com/en/Shareholders-and-investors-area/Shareholders/Shareholders |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 | 06:20 PM
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
It's amazing that in this day and age, with everything known about homeopathy, the SCAM continues in full sight!
In the UK, the government is doing what they can to put an end to the tom foolery.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-archive/science-technology/s-t-homeopathy-inquiry/
Even the top man at Boots the chemist retail chain has publicly stated that the homeopathic products they sell do not do anything at all.
He has stated that Boots sells what people want to buy.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/6658864/Boots-we-sell-homeopathic-remedies-because-they-sell-not-because-they-work.html
There's a nice outlook on life for you! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 | 09:41 PM
flens in CHINA
Thanks for your advert.
Why you would think ANYONE would want to purchase a product proven to be a SCAM is beyond me.
Nice try though.
Hope you haven't invested too much in the SCAM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd0Gb9EgkHA |
J Perkins
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 | 05:56 PM
This information regarding Sherry Blake-Greenberg is slanderous and needs to be removed. She is prepared to take action needed to rectify this slander. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 | 06:28 PM
J Perkins in LA said:
"This information regarding Sherry Blake-Greenberg is slanderous and needs to be removed. She is prepared to take action needed to rectify this slander."
And just who are YOU, "J Perkins?" Are you a lawyer representing Ms. Blake-Greenberg? If so, why didn't you identify yourself as such?
What "information" are you referring to? Clearly, much of the information about Ms. Blake-Greenberg on this forum is factual, with sources given. If some of it is NOT factual, which part(s) is/are not?
Vague threats from unidentified people don't count for much, other than as attempts at intimidation. Maybe if you tell us who you are and what you're referring to, you might be taken more seriously. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 | 09:30 PM
CMG
How strange that J Perkins makes a comment about comments going back at least a year.
BTW, wouldn't the complaint be about potentially libelous statements as in the written published word?
Don't think J Perkins is an attorney, do you? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 | 01:06 AM
I saw comments about Sherry Blake-Greenberg a few pages back, EDHUK. No matter.
No, I do NOT think that "J Perkins" is an attorney. I'm not going to go into details, but there are far better, more effective ways for a lawyer to go about getting supposedly libelous material removed than posting a vague threat to a message board. Any competent attorney would know that.
Yes, if I remember correctly, "slander" refers to the spoken word and "libel" refers to the printed word, another thing any lawyer should know. |
Joel
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 | 12:03 PM
J. Perkins in L.A.:
Welcome to our forum. Dr. Sherry Blake-Greenberg should probably check with David Schmidt before "tak[ing] action needed to rectify this slander."
You see, if she sues somebody for slander (false oral statements) or libel (false written statements), then that person will probably get to subpoena all of Lifewave's research records, and get to depose Haltiwanger and Schmidt and ask them some really hard questions under oath, in order to help support any accused statements that Dr. Sherry Blake-Greenberg is selling scam Lifewave products and is a fool and/or a charlatan for doing so.
I believe that "Dr." David Schmidt and barely-still-a-doctor Steven Haltiwanger really, REALLY don't want to have to answer questions under oath or produce the records of Lifewave's "research." That would bring the entire Lifewave house of cards tumbling down. That's why Schmidt and Haltiwanger never threatened to sue anyone who posts on this forum, or anyone else as far as I know. A lawsuit is the very last thing they want.
Dr. Sherry Blake-Greenberg herself would also have to answer some very hard questions under oath, that I'll bet that she also really, REALLY doesn't want to have to answer under oath either.
Before suing, she should also do some research regarding California Code of Civil Procedure Section 425.16.
If by "taking action needed to rectify this slander" you mean that she intends to take action against the Hoax Forum, then she should check not only CCP 425.16, but also Section 230 of the federal Communications Decency Act.
With those observations having been made, what is your relationship to Dr. Sherry Blake-Greenberg, what particular statements posted here do you/she consider to be false statements of objective fact (not mere opinion which is protected by the First Amendment) regarding the good doctor, and what degree does she hold from where that qualifies her to claim the title of "Dr."?
We look forward to your responsive post. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 | 01:42 PM
Good stuff, Jeff.
Man, those facts are stubborn things, aren't they? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 | 07:44 AM
As always, very politely stated Joel! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 | 10:15 PM
I have been looking at Amega Global and their range of "products lately. I came across their EGA BRINE.
They claim to use water mixed with Himalayan Crystal Salt to produce their magic product.
http://amegazeropointtechnology.com/184/amega-globals-ega-brine/comment-page-1/#comment-100
What a surprise when I also read this article:
http://experiencelifewave.com/2010/05/10/himalayan-crystal-salt-may-boost-the-effectiveness-of-lifewave-patches/
Yep, our friends in the LifeWave movement now have something else to harp on about.
Priceless! |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 | 01:31 AM
Normally I'd be skeptical, but seeing as how it's made from HIMALAYAN crystal salt, how can I have any doubt about its effectiveness? Anything from the Himalayas is automatically magical and therefore not subject to the normal laws of physics, right? |
Razela
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 | 07:07 AM
I love that J Perkins came on, gave a vague threat, then disappeared. Typical.
As for TAM updates, here's a list of some people who blogged about it: http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1049-tam-8-reviews-galore.html
I highly suggest reading the live-blogging by Hemant, and not just because I took the pictures (Ok, totally because I took the pictures)
hcmomof4, I totally looked for you! I was checking everyone's name tag, but with just about a million people there (give or take a few) I don't think I ever had a chance. Next year perhaps.
Also, I got to talk with Randi more this year, and if I may brag a bit: He asked me to explain a piece of jewelry I was wearing. This particular piece had a story attached to it which ended up with me totally pwning some top antivax people. The point is, after telling him the story, he said "You are my kind of girl. Can I hug you?" Seriously, Randi asked to hug me! I hugged him and was so teary. He is so utterly sweet.
That's it. Bragging time over. You can go back to your regularly scheduled taking down of Lifewave. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 | 07:30 AM
Thanks Razela for the TAM info!
J Perkins probably found out that the Himalayan Crystal Salt is also part of a SCAM!
http://naturalhealthnews.blogspot.com/2008/01/salt-may-be-health-scam.html
"Over the last few years a new scam has emerged in Europe which is rapidly spreading across the world.
It involves ordinary rock salt from the |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 | 09:59 AM
Can I tell my awesome TAM story?
At the reception, Adam Savage was standing pretty much by himself, so my youngest son walked up to him and asked if he'd talk to my older son on the phone. They talked for 4 or 5 minutes, making me and my youngest son total heros!!
TAM is lovely for things like that! |
Joel
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 | 01:02 PM
Hey EDHUK, I love the Himalayan Crystal Salt website you posted.
Did you notice that that company, Amega, also sells a magic wand? They even look you straight in the face and tell you that what they're hawking is a "Magic Wand" ("Watch this video of her remarkable results from the Amega "Magic Wand"...after years of acute pain.")
Amazing - in the year 2010, we still have people lining up to buy magic wands, magic patches, magic bracelets, magic stickers, magic water, . . .
And people who buy magic wands and magic patches get to cast just as many votes at election time as everyone else. Sigh . . . |
jayessell
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 | 04:34 PM
The highly respected Barnes and Nobel sells
them also. Must be legit!
http://gifts.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?r=1&IF=N&EAN=9780641816932&cm_mmc=Google Product Listing Ads - Experiment 04-_-k216838-_-j12871747k216838-_-Primary&ourl=Toys-games/Harry-Potter-Wand-with-Illuminating-Tip |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 | 06:09 PM
Joel,
I've been posting about the Amega Global AMWand for a few weeks now.
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forums/viewthread/12337/
I have also posted comments of YouTube much to the annoyance of the scam artists there.
As usual, this scam is being conducted in plain sight without any consequences.
However, I have had some thank you emails from people who were almost ready to buy the wand but then did some more research after reading my comments.
There are more and more skeptical comments appearing on You Tube videos where the posted allows comments.
One way around posters who block you or have "Comment Pending Approval" ie they won't post your skeptical comment, is to upload the video again to You Tube and then allow any comments.
Yes, it takes a little time, but at least you can make serious comments without being deleted or blocked.
BTW the rest of the Amega Global product range is pretty outrageous.
The usual mix of promises and pseudo-scientific buzz words.
D |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 | 06:14 PM
jayessell
Even Amazon has jumped on the band wagon. They sell all sorts of "new age" scams.
Nice to know they have good quality control at Amazon!
The AMWand:
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&rh=n:3760901,p_4:AMWand&page=1
Power Balance Bracelets:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=hpc&field;-keywords=Power+Balance&x=0&y=0&ih=10_3_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_1.127_104&fsc;=-1
Scalar Pendent:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=a9_sc_1?rh=i:hpc,k:scalar+pendant&keywords=scalar+pendant&ie=UTF8&qid=1282003942
Tesla Purple Plates:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field;-keywords=tesla+purple+plates&x=15&y=18&fsc;=-1
You get the idea! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 | 10:06 PM
"powerbalancebuy"
Well, you've certainly got bottle putting your little ad on the hoax forum!
How interesting to see you list Australia.
Australian TV did a nice job of busting Power Balance already, but, of course, you have a good reason why you don't believe them, right?
Power Balance Bracelets on Today Tonight
22/12/2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd0Gb9EgkHA
The Kinesiology trick revealed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Piu75P8sxTo&feature=related
How appropriate that Richard Saunders, well known skeptic from Australia has done such a nice job in exposing yet another "new age" SCAM.
The Australians also have a great skeptics society and host an annual conference much like TAM with past guests that include James Randi and Richard Dawkins.
http://www.skeptics.com.au/about/us/
And...as usual, I'll point out the obvious.
You either think the Power balance Bracelet is the real deal, in which case you have been SCAMMED...
or...you know it's a SCAM and are just hoping to make some cash from other people's ignorance...in which case you are a common SCAM ARTIST.
Which is it "powerbalancebuy"? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 | 10:27 PM
Anyway "powerbalancebuy".
Why on earth would anyone buy your SCAM when there are so many other bracelet SCAMS to choose from?
EFX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knWUuTNL72o
Mojo Future Tech from our ex-LifeWaver management man Warren Hanchey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG_gAgXeDkM
Balance 4 Life Energy Bracelet:
http://www.worldschoiceinc.com/Balance-4-Life-Bracelet--BLUE--S_p_674.html
Then we can always look towards China and deal direct with the manufacturers of these cheap bracelets.
Why pay many dollars when they can be had for a dollar or less in quantity?
http://cn.countrysearch.tradekey.com/power-balance-wristbands.htm
http://www.tradett.com/power-balance-bracelet-products/
Here's a nice one for $0.40 each AND they'll do OEM.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/334126383/power_balance.html
Power Balance Bracelet design for example? |
Smerk
in to mischief
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 | 05:20 AM
Edhuk, Powerbalancebuy is more commonly known as a hit and run spammer. Don't expect any answers from them.
Besides, we prefer to not encourage spammers round here. 😊 |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 | 08:05 AM
Smerk
Nice picture!
BTW As you are from Australia, how is LifeWave doing down under these days?
David |
Smerk
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 | 08:43 AM
Thanks, David. :red:
Heh, I haven't seen or heard much of LifeWave out here in the West - we tend to get ignored out here due to us being so far away from Sydney and the like. Not that I'm closely following it's progress out here, any way (except for trying to educate a few of my more impressionable friends...). |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 | 12:55 PM
Smerk
I was stunned when watching the news about the floods in Pakistan when they stated the number of people affected, and now homeless, is more than the entire population of Australia!
As far as LifeWave patches and Australia, and, after all, this is the LifeWave patches thread, Australia has done more to deal with LifeWave than the USA.
About a year ago, Joel posted interesting information:
"LIFEWAVE GETS SMACKED DOWN IN AUSTRALIA FOR MISLEADING ADVERTISING".
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forum/forum_comments/2526/P5180/
For a while a number of online distributors did take down their websites.
I haven't checked lately to see how many are back up.
Keep up the good work with the "education" of friends thing.
I know how brutally tough it can be.
Cheers,
David |
Razela
in Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 | 09:42 PM
By the way, I was totally having lunch with Richard Saunders back in Dec when he got the call about being on Today Tonight to do the bit on the powerbalance bracelets. I so don't understand those things. They are even stupider than lifewave but somehow becoming more widespread. |
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