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LifeWave Energy Patches
Posted By:
Fawkes
Feb 24, 2005
 Now you can get more energy from a patch! I especially like the way that
they "believe" that it works. It is also based on years of research from
many fields. While the research may be valid, I'm not sure that their
results were intended to be used with a "patent pending blend of water,
oxygen, amino acids and organics applied to a polyester fabric and sealed
within a polymer shell".

http://www.contactplus.com/lifewave.htm

We can finally have our super-soldiers now!
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jay
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 | 02:48 PM
Please look up homepathic medicine. It is a very old scientific procedure. Look it up before you make anymore comments. Ask your grandparents if they remember what homepathic medicine. Good Luck.
Jay
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 | 03:54 PM
Oh dear Jay,

You obviously haven't read much of this thread on the LifeWave patches SCAM.

Homeopathy has been covered many times.

Why exactly do you consider it to be a "scientific procedure"?

Enjoy this video on YouTube. If you still believe homeopathy is "scientific" after watching then I need to talk with you about an investment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z1QFZcnAi4&feature=related
Joel
Member
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 | 04:47 PM
The computer crystals are hilarious. They work via resonant frequencies, just like Lifewave, and they get rid of "electromagnetic smog," just like the Harmony Chip.

Is it mere coincidence that many of these new age products and theories sound alike? Or is the government beaming the same half-baked thoughts into the brains of all of the people who sell produce/market/sell them? I don't know about y'all out there, but I'm keeping my tinfoil hat on just in case.
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 | 05:49 PM
Jay said:

"Please look up homepathic medicine. It is a very old scientific procedure."

Jay, just because something is old, that doesn't automatically make it "scientific."

Voodoo has been around for centuries. Is IT "scientific," too?
jayessell
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 | 07:45 PM
Jay...




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Tired of this scam!
Member
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 | 09:26 PM
Well, shoot. Didn't know this thread continued for, let's see, 232 pages.

So the Lifewave people are at it again. Hadn't heard of them until recently, until a distributor started pedaling glutathione boosting patches on a national support group for the parents of kids with autism.

The absolute next time this woman on my group site starts touting this Livewave garbage, it's on.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 | 01:08 PM
Tired of this scam!

We know how you feel.

All the information you need is on this thread.

The early days of euphoria, promises not kept.

The many incarnations of the LifeWave business/scam.

David Schmidt has done his level best to take money from the most vulnerable people in our society. That he continues in this scam is testemony to the number of people who have reached for a dream.

Good luck with your attempts to bring logical arguments to the discussion in your autism group.

It won't be easy.

That's why this thread is now 233 pages long.

Cheers,

Dave
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 | 02:31 PM
Tired of this scam,

Could you post a link to the article/ad you mention, please? I know a couple of people fighting myths/lies of this sort who I'd like to show it to.
Tired of this scam!
Member
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 | 09:04 PM
hcmomof4,

There are too many to list them all. A few favorites:

"...Needless to say, parents are begging for help which the medical community has yet to offer. LifeWave, a non-transdermal patch offers hope that prescription medications or drug-based patches are not providing to these children....This non-drug option is so needed at a time when the instances of autism among children is on the rise occurring in 1 out of every 166 children in America. "

"...Until we find the cause, LifeWave has a gentle treatment alternative."

Which, of course, would be GREAT if it wasn't such a ridculous scam.

http://hubpages.com/hub/lifewave

I actually think the aforementioned ad is put out by the Lifewavers Secret Handbook On How To Sell, because it's the same line used on many of the distributor sites I see.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

And this is a video called "Lifewave's Glutathione for Autism and many other benefits"...

Here's their description: "Autistic children benefit greatly from our Glutathione, No injections, Nothing enters the body, just put the patches on and go! 24 hours later your GSH level is over 300%..."

http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/lifewaves-glutathione-for-autism-and-many-other-benefits/6126897/

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Here's another video labeled "Autism Is Reversible",

"...Raise your glutathione levels over 300% in just one day!... This is great news for Autistic Children...More hope for autistic children. No injections, just a simple patch. Call now for a 2 week trial pack 877-611-2876 Nothing enters the body..."

http://www.revver.com/video/637320/autism-glutathione-increased-by-300-in-24-hours/
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 | 12:19 AM
Boy, you turn your back for a moment and stuff happens.

So, LifeWave is now a cure for autism??

Is there NOTHING these little plastic patches filled with water and glycerine cannot do?
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 | 09:25 AM
Thank you for the info, Tired of this scam.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 | 04:53 PM
This kind of blurb is so typical of the LifeWave selling machine:

"A prevailing theory on the cause of autism is toxicity. If that theory is accurate, then detoxification at an early age is the answer, which is commonly done by chelation, a controversial treatment with poorly documented results."

They cite a bunch of theory, conjecture etc. then claim to have a treatment!

Yet, some people will buy the product because, as LifeWave claims: "...parents are begging for help which the medical community has yet to offer."

David Schmidt is one very very sick example of humanity.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 | 05:07 PM
Tired of this scam

How interesting to see that the video you cited has already been removed.

http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/lifewaves-glutathione-for-autism-and-many-other-benefits/6126897/

However, the YouTube video poster "Videos By Gabe8345" has the nerve to post an old video of David Schmidt demonstrating his "positive" and "negative" points on the body.

LOL

As I stated before, David Schmidt is one sick puppy.
Tired of this scam!
Member
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 | 07:58 PM
"...If that theory is accurate, then detoxification at an early age is the answer, which is commonly done by chelation, a controversial treatment with poorly documented results."

You know what's really stupid about this? The people on the autism/biomed board where I first started seeing distributors selling this garbage would be livid to see Lifewavers say this about chelation. We are chelating my child (please, don't need any opinions about it) and 99.9% of the other people on that board either are currently chelating, believe in it, or are considering it as an option later on.

"poorly documented results" is ludicrous, by the way. Chelation is approved by the blessed FDA for removing toxic metals. But guess what ain't? Hmmm.... anyone...

How hysterical that the Lifwave people, with all of their autism training (none, none, none) know the best way to recover kids from autism. And now distributors who know nothing about autism are putting out "recover your child!" with my patch! documents.

Why isn't there a way to blow this out of the water, already? Argh!
Joel
Member
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 | 08:19 PM
Re: Lifewave now being sold as a cure for autism

David Schmidt, you are one sick bastard.
One sick, twisted, evil, scum sucking, bottom dwelling bastard.

That goes for any other Lifewave distributor trying to sell these stupid sealed plastic patches containing sugar and glycerin as a cure for autism.
Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 | 12:45 AM
tired of this scam ! ;
" Why isn't there a way to blow this out of the water, already? "
That's a very good question, and answer is very simple, there is nothing illegal about Lifewave,
and your Government do not want to make it illegal.

Is there a medicine that suppresses hatred ?, because it looks like some of you might use some.

I mean extreme hatred usually makes a man do something regrettable.

love to all !

Jewpiter
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 | 08:22 AM
Jewpiter.

Peter, it's be a long time since your regular appraisals of mankind.

"...there is nothing illegal about Lifewave,
and your Government do not want to make it illegal."

An interesting opinion. Let's look back a couple of years to a previous post of yours:

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 | 11:51 PM

Dear EDHUK,

" real inside knowledge " is something I gave you, when decided to share it with good people on this forum, first time I showed up.

After I did that, you took my " real inside knowledge " and placed it into garbage can, and gave your best to make fool out of me.

You succeeded.

And I admited, EDHUK you're right, there is
nothing coming out of David's patches, besides appeal.

Don't you see what HAVE YOU CREATED, a delusional
person that wants to be ON YOUR SIDE.

And to moderators, if you guys want to ban me for no reason whatsoever, go ahead, I still know nothing of any wrongdoing, that is against statues of this interesting forum.

regards

pete"

So, I presume that having admitted that the patches do NOTHING, your argument remains that if people want to buy them who cares?

Fascinating as always Peter.

Hope you approve of the US President Elect.

Dave
Laura in the OC
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 | 11:48 AM
I read with interest many of these posts (okay, not all 233 pages) and it seems to me that the only people here who say they've tried the patches and they work, are also selling them.
I actually WANTED to try them, but now I'm not so sure. I mean, would no one want to just use them and not be involved in the MLM side of it? That seems odd to me, for a product that does as much as the LifeWave folks claim it does.
I suppose I could spend $70 or $80 to see for myself, but it also seems as though you only get the effects while wearing the patches, (which would also seem to suggest the placebo effect ~ just sayin)
By the way, Suzanne Somers talks about these patches in her new book Breakthrough (which is a really good book) and she has a link to LifeWave on her website (but claims she is not part of the MLM....she just believes in the product).
There's no way for me to verify if she's part of the MLM or not.
Is there anyone here who has tried these patches, who is NOT also selling them?
Laura
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 | 06:16 PM
Laura, many pages back, I volunteered my teenage son to be a guinea pig, but the offer fell through, even though he and I both agreed that we'd be able to set a reasonable amount of bias aside...
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 | 06:47 PM
Laura

It's been a while, but I think CMG did have his wife try out the patches. She felt no effect.

However, the point that has been made here many, many times is that such annectdotal evidence is of NO use when assessing the worth, or efficacy, of a product.

From the very beginning people, like me, have asked for simple verifiable studies to be performed.

Schmidt has done what he does best...dance.

He has danced around with various promises of studies to come, or tales of studies performed. Curiously "institutions" where studies were conducted have had to resort to legal means (cease and desist orders) to stop Schmidt using their good names in connection with his SCAM.

Even if you were to spend money, buy the patches and use them, any findings would be irrelevant. Not to you, maybe, but to the world in general.

Hidden in this thread, you will find people who have also thought along the same lines as you.

Luckily, they mostly saved their money.

Best wishes,
Dave
Laura in the OC
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 | 10:34 PM
Thanks Dave and HCMomof4,

I just thought of something; the site says money back guarantee during the first 30 days. I wonder, has anyone tried the patches, decided they don;t work and then sent them back?
Maybe I'll be the first. I mean, if they really don't work, I'll get every cent back.
I ALSO think that if I HAD invented this technology and it DID work, I'd offer to send one free set of patches to anyone who asked, becasue they would sell themselves.

Has anyone tried to get a sample? (If you know?)
I'm just having a hard time with the Suzanne Somers endorsement, because I think she's really doing great work in the natural health care field.

Laura
Stefanie
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 | 11:48 PM
:coolsmile:
You negative ones obviously have nothing to do but find Lifewave things and bag them. If the athletes above from the sports teams have tried them and they work then that is the best test. I have been to some demos on Gold Coast Australia and all the demos worked. I have seen over 20 demos. So find something else to do or stop bagging people.....
Stefanie
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 | 11:51 PM
You negative ones onviously have nothing much to do except bag stories on Lifewave. If the atheletes in pro teams in the states use them and endorse them then it's great. I have been to over 5 presentations on the Gold Coast Australia and all the demos on people have worked me included. If you need a distributor in Australia I can introduce you to one.
So to the baggers find something else to do...
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 | 03:51 AM
EDHUK said:


"It's been a while, but I think CMG did have his wife try out the patches. She felt no effect."

Correct. My wife tried out a pair of patches that I got from one of the distributors who was contributing to this thread a while back.

She felt nothing, either positive or negative. After that, I forwarded the patches to James Randi, the famous skeptic who has written about LifeWave on his site, randi.org. He put a photo of the very patches I sent him on the site in fact.
Laura in the OC
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 | 12:16 PM
Okay.....So, how can I get a sample?

Stephanie, do you know someone in the USA who is willing to send samples?

If I were selling anything this amazing, I would be giving out samples left and right.
Just sayin'.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 | 09:54 PM
Laura,

Say you receive a month's supply of the energy patches. You wear them and feel more energy. How do you know it's the patches?

Of course, as has been mentioned here many times, you don't.

These pages contain many examples of placebo effect in action. eg, The pain relief study where some subjects were given a saline drip...no pain meds at all, yet had effective pain control.

You might feel more energy but where did it come from?

Unless Schmidt is now selling TRANSDERMAL patches and not the original NON_TRANSDERMAL patches that "speak" to your body cells like a transistor radio, there is ZERO chance that the patches did anything. How could they?

How could a patch containing glucose (brown) and glycerin (white)...information freely given by LifeWave in the early days...that is stuck to the body (and falls off all too easily) cause the body to produce more energy, like magic?

Because IT DOESN'T!

Scamming people appears to be all too easy with this product. You have already been scammed because you are prepared to "try them". For free, of course.

By "trying them", even for free, you are legitimizing this particularly nasty example of scam artistry.

You might get further by writing to your Attorney's General to complain about a company that claims to cure autism with patches that are widely acknowledged as a SCAM product.

For years we have called the self proclaimed "Dr" David Schmidt a liar, a thief, a despicable example of the human condition.

Imagine the consequences if we had made those statements about, say Bill Gates. How long do you think it would be before his attorneys issued a cease and desist order?

Schmidt cannot contest our words because he has no case. No product, no breakthrough, NO MORALS, NO ETHICS. Pure and simple...he's a CON-MAN.
Laura in the OC
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 | 12:06 PM
Thanks, guys. I've decided to WAY steer clear of these people.
Before reading these latest posts, I had already requested samples from the company, which they readily agreed to send me. (Surprising, huh?)
Well......
They arrived yesterday, 2 full packages, along with a charge to my credit card in the amount of $177!
I returned the package with the unopened patch packets and a note saying I didn't authorize that charge. My credit card company says they will do a chargeback if LifeWave doesn't credit me within 30 days.
So, you all were right. They're about the money.
If they really believed in the product, they would have sent me true samples, free of charge.
THANKS for all the insight!
Laura
Laura in the OC
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 | 12:09 PM
By the way, the patches are TINY little orbs (I could see through the clear plastic). They look like those little round bandaids you use when you cut yourself shaving. I expected them to be large squares, for some reason. Once I saw them, I "knew" this was b.s. (even if they hadn't charged my card!)
Oh...and the package says "For the TEMPORARY relief" of whatever it relieves.....Meaning, you'll need a lifetime supply. Please!
Joel
Member
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 | 03:29 PM
Laura,

Thank you for posting your experience. If Lifewave fails to promptly and cheerfully refund the $177 they charged to your credit card for the "free" sample, please be sure to post again. Attorneys General get interested in that overt aspect of a scam.

Also, if they fail to refund your money promptly, perhaps I'd have the time to represent you in suing Lifewave for fraud (I'm a lawyer with an engineering degree). I've always thought it would be extremely revealing to depose David Schmidt under oath, and to post the transcripts on the Internet.
Laura in the OC
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 | 04:17 PM
Thanks, Joel. I'll keep you posted. Howvever...
By law (in California), they have 30 days to refund my credit card (regardless of the reason). After that, the credit card company steps in and does a chargeback. I, therefore, would sustain no damages, regardless of what they do. Make sense?
Joel
Member
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 | 09:08 AM
Laura: There would be little if any monetary damages. It would be more of a public service that I would be performing in helping to expose the Lifewave fraud.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 | 12:28 PM
Laura in the OC
in Irvine, CA

Well Laura, you've nicely dodged a bullet and saved yourself time and money, not to mention embarrassment when this scam finally closes.

You posted earlier:

"By the way, Suzanne Somers talks about these patches in her new book Breakthrough (which is a really good book) and she has a link to LifeWave on her website (but claims she is not part of the MLM....she just believes in the product)."

and:

"I'm just having a hard time with the Suzanne Somers endorsement, because I think she's really doing great work in the natural health care field."

I hate to dare to suggest...but I will.

Suzanne Somers might just not be all she appears. Let's not forget her humble beginnings as a TV actress in a comedy show.

Somehow, over the years, she appears to have gained knowledge that enables her to speak with authority on various subjects. She has a wealth of books, some that you obviously have enjoyed reading.

However, this YouTube clip sheds light and a little doubt about motives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3D5nKvNbHY&feature=related

Somers is "surprised" to learn that the "medical experts" she cites in her book are a motley assortment.

David Schmidt has made outrageous claims over the years without a shred of evidence to back up his assertions.

He says it's so...therefore it must be so.

That's not the way to run a business.

It IS the way to run a SCAM.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 | 12:34 PM
Laura.

You may want to check out this video also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W9i6Oi5DvI&feature=related
anonymous
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 | 08:09 PM
It is so sad that all of you have so much time on your hands to bash LifeWave. Do you not have a greater purpose in life?

Bob Burtis is a joke.....
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 | 08:32 PM
anonymous
in U.S.

Haven't you read this thread?

We're all employed by a giant conspiracy to put LifeWave out of business. We are paid enormous sums of money to receive notification via our Blackberries every time a golden nugget of a post arrives for our perusal.

"Bob Burtis is a joke....."

Wow, that's a stunning cutting comment! I'm sure Bob will be cringing in a corner after that one.

What a pity he won't be able to console himself with all those OTHER SCAMS he has exposed over the years.

Never mind, I'm sure he'll find a way to cope.

I wonder how YOU cope.

Obviously you are either:

1: "Dr." David Schmidt.
2: An employee of LifeWave.
3: A distrubutor of LifeWave scam products.
4: A previous LifeWave poster with yet another name.
5: Someone who has no life and sits in front of their computer all day posting derogatory comments.

No doubt you'll be itching to let us know.

But, then again, that itching could just be GUILT.
The resulting guilt for having the gaul to suggest that the LifeWave company is anything but fraudulent.

Maybe there's a patch for that!

God help us from this level of pure moronity.
Laura in the OC
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 | 01:15 PM
AH! So, NOW we know why Obama did so well in the debates. He must have been holding 2 LifeWave patches in the opposite palms, rendering McCain completley powerless against him. HA HA
TOO FUNNY, you guys.
Laura in the OC
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 | 01:21 PM
PS.... I meant "completely".
I can spell, I just type fast...(even though I am from the "dreaded" Orange County!) Ha!
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 | 03:21 PM
Warren Hanchey uses bubbly girl to carry out the same old trick that David Schmidt used when he started HIS SCAM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_8cJpGAMpE

"Field test" "Proof"

DUH!
medyum
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 | 04:34 AM
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EDHUK
Member
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 | 07:03 AM
medyum
in Turkey

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I commend you on posting your own HOAXES on this thread, however, this thread is limited to comments about "Dr." David Schmidt, the well known liar, cheat, and HOAX merchant supreme, who is selling patches containing glucose (brown) and glycerin (white) claiming they "talk" to your body like a transistor radio.

Nice try though.

Perhaps you'd like to start a new thread on The Hoax Forum dealing with the dubious practices you promote.

Cheers,
Dave
jayessell
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 | 04:42 PM
Dave...
This forum is EXCLUSIVELY anti-LightWave?
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 | 05:15 PM
jayessell,

Actually no. This thread, one of many on the Hoax Forum website, is devoted to the topic of "lightWave" (LifeWave).

There are MANY other topics being discussed at any one time.

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forum/index/

The odd post from Turkey was clearly someone trying to publicize their website.

Dave
chris
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 | 04:15 AM
People who shout their mouths off about something they have no experience of are morons!

And if I get results from something then I couldn't care less if all the scientific studies on the planet say otherwise. If i use something to rid myself of pain and it works then for me nothing else matters.
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 | 09:25 AM
Chris said,
People who shout their mouths off about something they have no experience of are morons!


Too true!! People who have no medical knowledge or training in nano-technology aren't very smart to be selling a product claiming it does something it CAN'T.

If i use something to rid myself of pain and it works then for me nothing else matters.


Way to care about others being ripped off, Chris. You are a wonderful fellow human being!!
Laura in the OC
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 | 09:47 AM
UPDATE:
By the way, guys..........LifeWave did NOT credit my card back with the $177 they took.
My credit card company is doing a chargeback.
Buster
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 | 02:31 PM
A citation of prior art has been attached to David Schmidth's patent application "Biomolecular Wearable Apparatus (THE PATCH). THe inventor of " A Method for Increasing Muscle Strength" claims that the two inventions are identical because they both claim to increase muscle strength by wearing biomolecular ingredients that are encased in waterproof housing ( they are non transdermal). It is interesting that both of these investigators came to the same conclusion independently.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 | 06:21 PM
Buster,

I think you'll find that Bob, at the World Wide Scam Network, reported a good while ago that David Schmidt had stolen the idea for the patches from someone else.

It very much goes along with what we know about Schmidt.

He uses people, sucks them dry, then tosses them to one side. Just ask his ex wife!

Originality is not "Dr." Schmidt's forte.
Joel
Member
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 | 11:42 AM
Buster,

"It is interesting that both of these investigators came to the same conclusion independently."

Your point being? That if two people reach similar conclusions, then their conclusion deserves respect? What about if 39 people reached the same conclusions? Pretty powerful that would be, wouldn't it? (39 as in the number of Heaven's Gate members who committed suicide under purple shrouds, wearing identical black and white Nikes and armbands that read "Heavens Gate Away Team.").

Yes, the person claiming that is "Dr. Edward L. Blendermann, DC" (doctor of chiropractic, I presume), of Port Orange, Florida. And what awards, recognitions, honors, write-ups, or even commercial success has Dr. Blendermann received for his amazing scientific breakthrough? As far as I can see, none, zip, nada.

Interesting that both of these investigators came to the same conclusion independently, but after 6+ years neither has been able to obtain any shred of independent verification or scientific recognition, although the phony "Dr." David Schmidt and his dupes have been claiming for years that independent scientific verification was imminent.
Buster
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 | 01:02 PM
Joel,

More interesting, both investigators claim their conclusions to be based on plcebo cotroled double blind studies. Yet neither has subjected these studies to peer review.
Joel
Member
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 | 03:24 PM
Buster,

Dave Schmidt said a few years ago that numerous studies had been submitted for peer review and would be published shortly. But we never saw any study results in any peer reviewed journal. So either DS was blatantly lying about numerous double blind placebo controlled studies being or having been conducted, or not one of those studies ever made it past the peer review process.
Curious
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 | 01:16 AM
I just read about 10 pages of people who felt really disgusted about LifeWave and had a few questions for you all since you seem to question the company so much- one thing to note though; I have never tried any of these patches nor have I ever made any contact or been a part of this MLM.

1. If the product doesn't work then why is the company so successful after so many years? It's also interesting to note that a recession isn't even stopping them from growing each year.

2. Have any of you actually tried the product for a period of 1 month and witnessed no change in the performance it claims to do?

3. Are you in disagreement with their distribution/marketing supply chain? As a business student at CSUF I personally see MLM as a srength for this company- a product that is sure to draw skepticism which requires the advantages of word of mouth advertising combined with low costs for marketing and distributing- not to mention their high margins that would have otherwise went into the "middle man" such as department stores and pharmacies...

I know some of you are going to jump into this conclusion that I'm some sort of a lifewave rep but in truth I'm just a cal state fullerton busines student who just finished a project on this company and wanted to see some further insight beyond the scope of sarcastic comments and uneducated statements. Thanks in advance for your time.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 | 05:53 PM
Curious

"I just read about 10 pages of people who felt really disgusted about LifeWave..."

Mmmm doesn't bode too well for your research skills.
Laura in the OC
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 | 08:23 PM
Hey, guys! Thanks for the laughs, I truly enjoyed this newest thread.

My ALL TIME favorite is EDHUK's remark:
"I personally see spelling as a strength for ANY student preparing for the workplace."

PRICELESS!!

I would also say to "Curious":
If you really want to research this company's product, why NOT try it out?
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 | 06:57 AM
Laura,

Gld I cud prvde altle jlity drng tese dficlt tmes!

Dave
Joel
Member
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 | 12:35 PM
Curious asked, "1. If the product doesn't work then why is the company so successful after so many years?"

Hint: What did PT Barnum say was born every minute?
Buster
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 | 01:22 PM
Curious,
Where did you get your idea that Lifewave is growing each year. According to this blog, Lifewave has been in financial trouble.
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 | 02:52 PM
Actually, Joel, there is some question about whether that quote was really P. T. Barnum...
http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html
Joel
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 | 05:39 PM
I found the internet page containing Warren Hanchey
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 | 05:59 PM
Joel,
Thanks for the link to Warren Hanchey.

This comment caught my eye:

"It seems a good time to clear up the old Lifewave comments and offer the truth in dealing with the misinformation disseminating from Lifewave now."

Hanchey offering TRUTH!

Now there's a new concept.
Jim D
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 | 12:36 AM
Kinda amazes me that people would be so negative of something new without any personal experience with what they are talking about. I have never tried the Lifewave stuff--but it seems possible that since the skin is the biggest organ of the human body and it absorbs just about everything, maybe there is something to this. Not sure, but like many things in life, if I am 90% sure it is not going to harm me and it may make me feel better--I am willing to try it. Many of the same people watching the so called "news" on TV without questioning it and yet make such a big deal out of something that is new and could add some value to their life (and meanwhile we are the fattest on the planet), continues to remind me that humans really have not change a bit. I am always hoping to see Americans awakening from their TV comas... To all the people making an honest living out of helping others, good for them--thats the way it should be. For all of those who think all of these companies are a "pyramid scheme", turn the TV off and look around-classical example of a few people making money off of the pain of many. As your job losses mount, ask yourself how it all happened....educate yourself--look at all of the people dying from prescription drugs every year...that is where you should critically evaluate the so called "science"---its a big scam and thats why we have so many sick people in this country--they are brainwashed and in comas -fat, dumb and happy.
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