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Joel
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 | 11:19 AM
"I'll bet those five people in this forum are one man posting as five people." How much, Cathygirl? Put your money where your mouth is. This will be fun. |
Cathygirl
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 | 12:53 PM
Okay Joel.
You all win.
Please have your people back off my email problem.
I won't ever bother you or any other people again.
I've learned my lesson who I'm dealing with.
It's not worth it to voice my opinion. |
Joel
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 | 12:58 PM
You're not going to back out of your offer to bet, are you Cathygirl? Shucks . . . another driveby LifeWaver who'se not up to any real challenge. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 | 05:20 PM
Just for the record, not only am I NOT the same person as anyone else here, I've never even met any of them.
"It's not worth it to voice my opinion."
It's always worth expression an opinion, assuming you have any actual FACTS to back it up. You didn't and as a result, you have made yourself foolish. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 | 06:14 PM
Hadta Post in Texas,
Again I say, you really didn't have to!
"...please be aware that there are people out there who are paid VERY WELL to discredit good companies who offer products MUCH better than the drug companies poop poopeee doo."
This point has been covered MANY times before on this thread. We've all joked about it. The idea that somehow I come home from a hard day at my job and log on to this forum in order to earn huge sums of money is certainly interesting. I wish it were true!
I wonder why we have had a period of silence here on this thread. Why weren't the fabulous 5 typing away constantly, filling up our swiss bank accounts?
For those readers with at least a few functioning rational brain cells you already know the answer.
I presume LifeWave is struggling so badly right now that they have to post a few comments such as the previous posts. Have to keep the wave in motion, the dream, all that money.
The bottom line remains static.
David Schmidt is nothing more than a cheap confidence man. He has made claims that CANNOT be substantiated.
Many genuine people who have fallen fowl of this scam have eventually distanced themselves from this very peculiar man; either by using cease and desist orders or by simply ending their association with the company.
As for Cathygirl. Are you still in High School by any chance?
Oh, I forgot, you won't be answering that because you "...won't ever bother you or any other people again."
That does rather limit your life, but it's your statement.
So, according to our latest batch of LifeWavers, or David Schmidt in yet another series of "disguises", I must continue to keep very busy as I am five people at once.
How do I keep all those identities and writing styles clear in my mind!
It's a tough job, but someone has to do it!
Eh Joel, CMG, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
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jayessell
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 | 06:40 PM
Did Hadta count me as part of the Gang Of Five?
I've only posted a few times.
I'm not worthy!
****
Check out the Podcasts of "The Skeptics Guide to the Universe".
Somewhat affiliated with the James Randi Foundation. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 | 08:24 PM
"I've heard about the misinformation groups out there, yet until now didn't see one so obviously creating bad feelings and fear. WOW."
"I heard there were groups that try to discredit good companies, yet until now, I haven't seen it so clearly."
"Now, more than ever, I'm totally convinced it is an incredible opportunity."
"I am with you on Lifewave. GO GO GO for the best opportunity I have ever seen."
How interesting that these comments all have the same flavor...as though written by the same person.
Also interesting that after all these years, the Lifewavers are talking as though this was a new opportunity you should all be looking at.
IF LifeWave was the "Real Deal" wouldn't we ALL know about it by now?
Wouldn't it be all over the tv chat shows etc?
I know I've made these comments before, but in view of the latest RETRO LifeWave postings I feel obliged to be a little retro as well.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 | 10:07 PM
I guess the secret is out. We 5 (or I) might as well confess. We (or I) are being paid HUGE bucks by doctors and drug companies to put down Lifewave and keep it from taking over treatments normally done by them.
But the good news is, Cathygirl, we (or I) are willing to let others in on the franchise. You are guaranteed to make a lot MORE MONEY doing this that selling those patches. All you have to do is regularly post here about how much of a scam Lifewave is. It's easy and fun too. Do that and your monthly check will arrive in the mail.
So how about it Livewavers? Want a better deal? Just switch sides. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 | 01:07 AM
Damn it, Captain Al, you've gone and let the cat out of the bag.
I was going to host as series of seminars on How To Rake In The Big Bucks By Posting Negatively About Perfectly Honest Companies, but you've ruined that for me. Thanks a lot! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 | 01:55 PM
Captain Al, CMG
Come come, you both know you are really me is disguise. Let's be honest!
Or am I you in disguise? Is it all a hall of mirrors?
I'm beginning to feel like a Sally Field movie! |
jayessell
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 | 06:13 PM
Don't you mean Groucho in Duck Soup? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 | 07:13 PM
jayessell
Nope.
Guess you didn't see Sybil.
p.s. Kevin Trudeau wants us to believe that women with breast cancer can be cured by eating a bran muffin with flax seed oil in it!
I presume you believe him just as you believe that David Schmidt, a cheap con-artist, is a brilliant scientist who has invented a mind blowing technology patch system.
Takes all sorts. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 | 07:50 PM
jayessell
Ooops,
You're one of the good guys!
See how this multiple personality thing is so hard to keep straight! |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 | 10:02 AM
I just had ta respond to Hadta Post's comments on the previous page.
1. We know the auto manufacturers are producing gas guzzlers intentionally, yet what's our alternative?
Who put a gun to your head to make you buy a gas guzzler? Even if your statement was true, that would not be proof Lifewave products work. Alternatives? How about a Pontiac Firefly/Geo Metro? I drove one for 13 years. Sixty MPG on the highway. You get even more with a Smart Car. Then there's bicycles that get an infinite number of miles per gallon of gasoline. Auto manufacturers are private companies. They can produce any kind of care they desire. Usually though, they build the cars that people will most likely buy. If people are buying gas guzzlers then gas guzzlers is what they will build.
2. We know our politicians continually lie and cheat us, yet when given a choice of two con artists, we still think our vote makes a difference?
Politicians are elected by the people. If they are as bad as you say, why do they keep getting elected? The most dishonest polictian can't do anything if he/she doesn't get elected. If there are no good choices, why don't you consider running for office? What's that? you think the majority won't vote for you? Then maybe your ideas are crap. Once again, what has this got to do with Lifewave's integrity?
3. We know our media is almost 100% controlled by the elite, yet most people still believe what they see and hear on TV?
How do we "know" this? I'm sure a lot of people in the media would disagree. What media organization would allow their newspaper or TV network to be controlled by someone else? If there is any problem with the media it's the fact there are many people reporting and editing about subjects they don't know enough about. Knowing that, we can be more selective in our choice of sources and view it all with a skeptical frame of mind, just as "we 5" have done with Lifewave. Yes, many people believe what they see and hear on TV but that's not the media's fault.
I find it odd you are critical of the media and "drug company trained doctors" yet you don't hold Lifewave to the same standard. |
Joel
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 | 02:18 PM
Bob (I mean, myself): What's that about Schmidt having Hanchey and his family arrested? |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 | 01:10 PM
LIFEWAVE'S CLAIM TO BE AN EFFECTIVE TREATMENT FOR AUTISTIC CHILDREN
Here it is folks:
"LifeWave's Glutathione For Autism And Many Other Benefits"
"http://www.Life-Wave.ws Autistic children benefit greatly from our Glutathione, No injections, Nothing enters the body, just put the patches on and go! 24 hours later your GSH level is over 300%"
Watch the video for yourself.
http://www.revver.com/video/645124/lifewaves-glutathione-for-autism-and-many-other-benefits/
The URL given (http://www.life-wave.ws) resolves to a sub-page on the Lifewave website that is the page for:
Johnny & Connie - Nano Technology In Action
Email: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Telephone: 1-877-611-2876
Anybody want to call Johnny and Connie and let them know what you think? |
jayessell
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 | 04:41 PM
Joel, an ad targeting the parents of Autistic children?
That's low!
Do they use the words 'treat' or 'cure'?
Paging FDA!
They actually admit no active ingredients!
There's "Works like magic", and then
there's "Works BY magic!"! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 | 06:05 PM
Joel,
As usual there's mention of "A double blind placebo controlled study was performed to independently examine the effectiveness of the LifeWave Y-Age Glutathione patch in being able to elevate blood levels of Glutathione over a period of 24 hours and several days."
NO FOOTNOTE OF WHERE WE CAN VERIFY SUCH A STUDY WAS CONDUCTED!
How predictable.
More smoke and mirrors. Try to look scientific in print and they will buy.
Of course, some people do just that as we have been noting for some years now. |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 | 07:35 PM
The marketing ploy of trying to sell their SCAM Lifewave sugar patches as a treatment for autism makes it official:
The fake Dr. David Schmidt and his cohort the disgraced psychiatrist Dr. Steven "Fatty" Haltiwanger are even lower on the evolutionary totem pole than pond scum. |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 | 07:54 PM
Here are just some of the diseases/conditions that the fake Dr. David Schmidt, who has no scientific degree, has now claimed that his scam Lifewave patches prevent/cure:
Lack of energy
overweight
lack of sleep
snoring
muscle fatigue
bad eyesight
malaria
viruses
radiation poisoning
hearing loss
pain in humans and horses
aging
heavy metal poisoning
Alzheimer's disease
autism
skin cancer
face wrinkles
rough skin
dry skin
I'd say that the fake Dr. David Schmidt is starting to give crazy-as-a-loon Karma Singh and his miracle Harmony Chips stiff competition. |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 | 08:06 PM
All those claims over all this time, with all of those promises of studies to be published any day now, and we have yet to be given a single citation to a study published in a peer reviewed scientific journal to back up a single one of those claims. |
Phsh
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 | 01:21 AM
hello from France;
Livewave Patch are great!
If you can explain how acupuncture using needles works? Science can't! right! |
jayessell
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 | 05:11 AM
Bonjour mon ami francais!
A scientific test of acupuncture had the subjects poked in the 'non standard acupuncture points' by an untrained acupuncturist.
No difference. |
Katheren Hanaish
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 | 07:23 AM
To Denver Lifewaver:
Stan Cottrell is NOT just a mere scam artist.
I've heard stories over the years that would send a chill racing up your spine.
Yeah, I know he claims to have "changed."
To wit, the guy's updated (daily) sales pitch:
"If Jesus can forgive ME, he can forgive ANYBODY!"
Remember the character of "Mr. Haney" from the old sitcom, "Green Acres?"
THAT...
Is Stan Cottrell.
NOW...
Add one part Elmer Gantry...
One part Lonesome Rhodes (the character portrayed by Andy Griffith in the classic film, "A Face in the Crowd")...
Throw in a splash of SWAGGART...
A heap o' HAGGARD...
Jest a bit of BAKKER...
Muddled* with MANSON...
NOW you're getting closer to who Stan really is.
*You know, in the kind of glass they serve those yummy Mint Juleps at Churchill Downs... |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 | 05:33 PM
Phsh
in France
The chances of you being French are very remote!
IF we take you at your word, mon ami, please explain, in simple terms, how LifeWave patches work.
We would also like to see studies published in well respected scientific journals that have replicated claims made by the self titled "DR." David Schmidt.
Une personne tr |
jayessell
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 | 05:55 PM
Phsh in France:
Go to Joel's: Mon May 22, 2006 | 11:43 AM post in this forum.
It citations the acupuncture study I mentioned, with a link to the article.
134? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 | 06:47 PM
IT'S OFFICIAL !!!!
"SAY GOODBYE TO LIFEWAVE"
The ad is on Google.
http://dave.zfreedom.com/LifeWave
Looks really genuine eh?
Nope, that's not me.
Dave |
Phsh
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 | 03:33 PM
Ok you may be against the Mystery of the working of the patch !But I don't report of adverse effect:
But the real criminels are here :
Antidepressant Drugs Linked to School Shootings :
http://www.naturalnews.com/022930.html
or here : The amount of money spent on hospital care for those given the wrong medicine or who have reacted badly to a drug could pay for 10,000 new midwives or easily cover the estimated cost of combating MRSA infections, says Compass.
here the article :http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/apr/03/nhs.drugsandalcohol
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Phsh
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 | 03:56 PM
more :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/apr/03/nhs.drugsandalcohol
the health minister Dawn Primarolo confirmed to the organisation that 6.5% of hospital admissions are a result of an adverse reaction. Total admissions in 2006 were 16 million, which means that 1,040,000 patients were there as a result of the drugs they were prescribed.
Compass bases its calculation on an average stay of eight days in hospital at a cost of |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 | 03:58 PM
Phsh
in France (or so you say)
With your limited attention span, you may have missed the FACT that THIS forum thread is about the LifeWave patches SCAM.
It is NOT about any of the millions of other topics that people have firm opinions about.
Please limit your posts to the subject of THIS thread. Self titled "Dr. David Schmidt and his claims to have "invented" a novell patch delivery system.
I state "claims" because no one has ever proved such a thing and secondly he was NOT granted a patent (where he originally signed as "Dr.")
Your thoughts on THIS subject alone would be most welcome IF you have anything NEW to add to this discussion.
If not, perhaps you could S |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 | 04:06 PM
Previously posted by Joel:
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 | 12:04 PM
LIFEWAVE'S PATENT APPLICATION - FINAL REJECTION
"Lifewave's patent application, application no. 10669596, received a "final rejection" from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (PTO) on February 19, 2008. The phrase "final rejection" is a misnomer, however, because Lifewave can continue to argue its case simply by paying more fees to the PTO.
Essentially, the discussion between the PTO and Lifewave has gone like this (and I am vastly simplifying):
PTO: People have put similar substances into patches before, so your "invention" is not new, and therfore you aren't entitled to a patent.
LIFEWAVE: Yeah, but nobody has put those substances into sealed NON-TRANSDERMAL patches before.
PTO: Maybe so, but your patent claims aren't limited to non-transdermal patches, so this is the end of our discussion at least for now. If you want to change your claims to be for non-transdermal patches, and pay the fee to get another bite at the apple, we can then examine that as being your supposed invention."
IF "DR. DAVID SCHMIDT HAD INVENTED A NOVELL PATCH SYSTEM, AS CLAIMED, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GRANTED A PATENT AND HERALDED AS A BRILLIANT INVENTOR.
THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD HAVE BEATEN A PATH TO HIS DOORWAY TO GET LICENCES TO USE HIS TECHNOLOGY.
He has NOTHING to sell. ZIP.
He is a SCAM ARTIST without talent. |
Phsh
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 | 04:40 PM
Edhuk, If you think lifewave is a scam, may be you have to try it first before to tell that;
2/ respect Dr Smidt, He is right to keep is secret;
3/Something strange : Who paid you to spend so much time on this forum to denigrate; |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 | 05:29 PM
Phsh in France
I don't blame you for not reading the previous posts on this forum thread. After all, there are 226 pages of them and English is your second language, or so you would have us believe.
Your points have been covered on this thread many, many , many , many times before you.
Nothing you have written is NEW. NOTHING.
Please write something that is new.
I wait with anxious anticipation.
Dave |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
Member
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 | 06:28 PM
Phsh said:
If you think lifewave is a scam, may be you have to try it first before to tell that
I'd be willing to shell out money to give Lifewave patches a try just as soon as Motorola, Nokia, or some other major electronics manufacturer announces they have managed to design a radio transmitter made out of nothing more than sugar and molasses. |
Cranky Media Guy
Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 | 12:57 AM
What is it with proponents of "alternative medicine" that they always seem to use the same flawed logic:
"Something produced by a mainstream medical or pharmaceutical company seems to be not-so-effective (or non-effective), therefore any crazy thing an 'alternative' source comes up with MUST work."
Honestly, do you not see the flaw in that kind of "logic?" |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 | 06:41 AM
But Cranky, it MUST work or powerful, secret organizations would not be paying us to discredit it! |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 | 01:59 PM
Damn it, Captain Al, what part of "secret" do you not understand? You're going to kill our whole deal if you keep talking about it. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 | 05:11 PM
Guys, guys! I think it's time we had an emergency meeting round the back of the bike shed.
With such important matters at hand we really must make plans.
Or have I suggested that I meet with myself?
Go figure!
! |
lol
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 | 01:04 PM
hey look. the three stooges of wisdom are tryin to be funny. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 | 01:44 PM
lol said:
"hey look. the three stooges of wisdom are tryin to be funny."
So, after all the claims made for LifeWave, you're reduced to ad hominem attack?
Got any FACTS which refute what we've said about "Dr." Schmidt and his Magical Little Patches? |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 | 03:42 PM
lol
What's it to be?
3 people? 5 people? one person posting under different names?
Make your mind up buddy!
Concrete verifiable evidence of efficacy will always silence naysayers.
That's why we 3, 5 or one or however many still take time to post responses to such mind numbingly erred logic presented by the majority of LifeWavers.
Please prove us all wrong.
I have stated all along that IF the patches were the real deal it would be a genuine breakthrough for so many areas of science and life in general.
NOBODY has come up with ONE SHRED of verifiable proof that Schmidt is nothing more than a con-man.
NOT ONE SHRED.....
...unless you have something concrete to offer.
All 1,3,5,whatever of us won't be waiting with baited breath.
Maintenant dispara |
Andre Clement
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 | 01:30 PM
I receive to day patch for another month.I did not order for every month. It is expensive Please wait I order my self when I will need some more.
My number is 635523.
Andre Clement. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 | 04:10 PM
Andre,
Not quite sure why you posted here on this HOAX FORUM thread about the SCAM LifeWave company.
Perhaps you would be better cancelling your credit card ASAP so that LifeWave can't send you more patches on autoship.
I presume you realize you signed up for autoship when you first got the patches, or perhaps not.
Sorry for your bad luck.
Dave |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 | 10:32 AM
For those of you who still think Lifewave works in a way similar to acupuncture, consider these words from Bob Park, a professor of physics at the University of Maryland who distributes a weekly online newsletter:
...this morning I was sent a notice from the University of Maryland Health Center about it's acupuncture services. "Originating in China about 5,000 years ago," it began, "acupuncture is the oldest continuously practiced medical system in the world." You might prefer something a little more up-to-date. If my health is involved I want to know what was learned yesterday. It goes on to explain that acupuncture is based on the circulation of qi "the life-giving energy that circulates along channels to all organs and enables them to function." My own university put this out? There is no qi. It's superstitious nonsense. After you stop laughing, check out the health service at your institution. The American health system has completely sold out to this crap. America's addiction to acupuncture began with New York Times correspondent James Reston's 1971 trip to China, during which he was operated on for acute appendicitis. Contrary to widespread accounts, he was injected with a standard local anesthetic, not acupuncture. It was two days later that he experienced indigestion with only a traditional Chinese physician on duty. He was treated with moxibustion, a form of acupuncture, and needles were used to "get the qi flowing." An Alka-Seltzer might have been better. Reston's own words can be found on the web.
He followed it up the following week with these comments:
You will not be surprised to learn that [What's New] got a lot of disagreement about the item on acupuncture last week. As one reader pointed out, "millions of people have been treated with acupuncture and say it works; scientists should be trying to find out how it works rather than ridiculing it." Look at it this way, an even larger number of people around the world say astrology works. If you think they |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 | 12:25 PM
Captain Al
Very interesting post!
Of course, the hardened LifeWaver will respond that the LifeWave patches differ from acupuncture in one important aspect.
They are based on NEW technology "invented" by the self tiltled "Dr." (not a Dr.) David Schmidt. His "technology IS the NEW technology Prof. Park refers to when he stated..."You might prefer something a little more up-to-date."
When you are a deluded LifeWaver, facts are meaningless. Any LifeWaver who finally "sees the light" has to face up to the fact that they have been conned, and were "taken" by a two year business degree scam artist who doesn't even know the direction in which electricity flows!
That's a MAJOR insult to the ego. Much easier to believe that people like us are paid by large institutions to "rubbish" this wonderful technology.
Much easier to believe that "Dr. David Schmidt" has never brought legal action against anyone for calling him a con-man and a scam artist because he's just a good guy.
And so we watch our TV's and wonder at the mass of rubbish being touted as "real" science.
Footpads that "detox" your body. "Cures" that they don't want you to know about, etc. etc. etc.
Go figure!
Cheers Captain Al, always a pleasure to read your posts.
Dave |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 | 05:44 PM
It's always nice once in a while to check in with the LifeWave website to see how Schmidt has changed the wording in support of his "invention".
http://www.lifewavenc.com/nanotechnology.html
"As of today LifeWave NC |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 | 06:04 PM
LifeWave website PART II
LifeWave claims to be able to increase Human Growth Hormone levels and implies that this is a good thing for you. Is that so?
"Improve the quality of life in old age by "turning on" human growth hormone production..."
"Some investigators feel that diminished levels of hGH may not be a bad thing. Several studies have shown that women with high levels of hGH are more likely to get breast cancer, men more likely to develop prostate cancer, and individuals of both sexes are more apt to die at younger ages than those with naturally low hGH levels.
Research has also shown that mice with very high levels of growth hormone have premature brain aging and reduced life spans, whereas their rodent contemporaries who have genetic disorders such as suppressed GH production, or an inability to recognize and utilize growth hormone (GH resistance) have prolonged survival."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10766061/
Mmmm.
Don't like the sound of breast cancer, prostate cancer, reduced life expectancy. But what the heck, I'm sure "Dr. David Schmidt has taken this into account, right?
"In one of the few clinical studies done on healthy older individuals (age 65 to 88) that included women, significant side effects occurred.
One third or more of the treated participants developed carpal tunnel syndrome, swelling (edema) and joint pain.
Twice as many men on hGH developed pre-diabetes or diabetes as compared to those not treated."
Oh dear, more bad things "Dr." Schmidt!
"There is also a concern about the possibility of an increased cancer risk with long-term hGH treatment. The hormone induced by hGH, insulin growth factor-1 (IGF-1), promotes the growth of cells and prevents them from dying. And that |
jayessell
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 | 06:33 AM
EDHUK...
I'm surprised you didn't take issue with the
"...producing a unique <b>heating and cooling</b> effect above the surface of the skin."
So, does it alternate between the two or heat the front and cool the back?
"...producing a unique heating and cooling effect <b>above</b> the surface of the skin."
So, somewhere around the undershirt?
That's where I want my acupuncture, somewhere above the skin. |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 | 08:58 AM
jayessell
in Chester, NY, USA
It would be oh so easy to just dismiss "Dr." Schmidt as a complete crackpot but for the fact that over the past few years many people have believed (and some still do) the scam.
So, for the benefit of people thinking about this company I'll certainly post once in a while just to keep the muddy water stirred up! |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 | 09:49 AM
EDHUK said:
It would be oh so easy to just dismiss "Dr." Schmidt as a complete crackpot but for the fact that over the past few years many people have believed (and some still do) the scam.
Dave,
I'm finding the Q-RAY thread reads exactly like this one. Even though they've been provided proof the whole thing is a scam, every so often someone will post a comment about how they believe the product really does work. In the case of Q-RAY, the company actually admitted in court, under oath, all their so called technology was just made up but still the testimonials keep coming.
But as someone once said, it's difficult to use logic and reasoning to convince someone their belief is wrong when they didn't use logic and reasoning to arrive at their conclusion to begin with. |
Joel
Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 | 05:05 PM
The Q-Ray bracelet website doesn't even mention any therapeutic effects anymore. I guess that $100 million+ judgment that the FTC obtained against the marketers of that snake oil finally made them change tactics. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2008/01/qray.shtm. Now it's just a pretty bracelet, according to the Q-ray website.
But they still made $15.9 million in net profits from selling their snake oil before getting nailed. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2008/01/qray.shtm.
In the meantime, the Harmony Chip made Wired magazine |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 | 08:00 PM
Joel,
I love this part:
"The court found that the defendants |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 | 05:50 PM
The KINOKI detox footpad SCAM.
Laughable, just like the LifeWave patches, but with a difference.
This product has been on TV ! Even BBC America has been running the ads.
Too good to be true?
Of course it is.
Now the company has been told to make changes to claims made in their comical commercial.
http://www.montereyherald.com/state/ci_8923033
Specifically, the foot pads won't claim to eliminate toxins from the body.
"The product has a cleansing action upon the foot, so that you can use it to clean your foot, but (present evidence) does not support the proposition that the product eliminates contaminants from the rest of the body," Emord said."
The company now describes them as pads that clean the feet!
Simple.
Yet David Schmidt continues to peddle his patches using the internet, and anyone he can hook as a distributor, to wring every last dollar out of this scam.
How long would he have lasted if he had used TV comercials from the get go?
Not very long I would suggest. |
jayessell
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 | 06:18 PM
Scam commercials on my local cable channel:
Also Rid-X
(Not the septic tank treatment)
It claims to send digital pulses (Ooooo, <i>DIGITAL!</i>) through your house wiring to scare away roaches and mice.
I swear, I'm going to start collecting these ads and post them on YouTube for posterity!
BTW.... What is/is there an opposite to posterity?
Anterity? |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 | 09:29 PM
LifeWave website continues to evolve.
http://www.thetruthaboutfoodandhealth.com/lifewave.html#glutathione
Helping Others is Helping Yourself
A lot of people use the Energy Patches for the sake of building muscle, but if you really think about it, there are far more constructive things a person could be doing with all of that extra energy and health. (Large muscles don't represent health anyway, proper cellular functioning does.)
Just imagine how many of the worlds problems would dissolve and disappear if we all started to use our health and vitality for the sake of each other.
LifeWave's products are made in the service of others, and are created with the intention to uplift humanity, so why don't we all join together and do the same?
As John Lennon wrote in his song "Imagine", "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us, and the world will be as one."
OMG!
Uplifting humanity?
Lifting humanity's wallet more like.
This company (term used loosely) gets funnier by the month. |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 | 09:43 PM
Our buddy Rich Lang still seems to be at it!
http://www.energyrich.com/
"Attention Business Opportunity Seekers:
If you are a network marketer, and have a downline from another company,I have a LifeWave positioned open with 360,000 BV. (That |
Joel
Member
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 | 09:18 AM
So now we have both the Kinoki detox footpad and the Lifewave detox patch. Both claim to be stick-on patches that remove bad stuff from your body while magically leaving the good stuff.
Kikoni claimed to work by ancient Japanese medicine.
Lifewave claimed to work by ancient Chinese medicine. And by bending the body |
Joel
Member
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 | 09:42 AM
LIFEWAVE PATENT UPDATE
Lifewave continues to try (sort of) to get a U.S. patent. Their latest paper arguing that they should be granted a patent, filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on April 21, 2008 in their patent application no. 10/669,596, was filed by a new attorney, Mr. Koo, they hadn |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 | 02:14 PM
Silly Joel. You don't understand. By wearing LifeWave patches, law student Koo has been turned into the intellectual equivalent of Perry Mason.
After all this time, you STILL don't get the amazing power of small plastic patches containing water and glycerine! |
Scott Miles
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 | 03:04 PM
We athletes too stupid to know what work.
Have you guys ever tried the patches?
I don't know about making money with the company but they work well on me. What would pocess a person to spend so much time posting negative things about a product like this? I like the fact that David Schmidt doesn't have the schooling.
Scott |
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