The Museum of Hoaxes
LifeWave Energy Patches
Posted By:
Fawkes
Feb 24, 2005
 Now you can get more energy from a patch! I especially like the way that
they "believe" that it works. It is also based on years of research from
many fields. While the research may be valid, I'm not sure that their
results were intended to be used with a "patent pending blend of water,
oxygen, amino acids and organics applied to a polyester fabric and sealed
within a polymer shell".

http://www.contactplus.com/lifewave.htm

We can finally have our super-soldiers now!
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Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 01:10 AM
Yupiter said:

"CMG, my man, I can not expect from you guys to do
anything, never did."

So, what is your gripe then?

"I can only HOPE for all of you to last together with this forum indefinitely, because you're making me laugh so hard, I mean you guys make SNL sound like
Funeral ceremony."

Glad to make you laugh. That's more than LifeWave can accomplish.

"Can I be grateful enough ? How do I know, I'm delusional, remeber ?"

Well, yeah, you DO seem delusional at times. You sure don't make a lot of sense.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 01:39 AM
CMG,
My gripe is to continue my Father's Job,
He's making Keyless Locks, and I'm making Lockless
Keys.
I gave you the Key for Human Respect, and you
have no clue what to do with it. :(

If I were you I would leave LifeWave's accomplishment to FTC, see what they did with
Q-Ray's 😉

In the other hand Bob's or EDH UK's accomplishment,regarding LifeWave, is bringing laughter tears to my eyes, so huge, and very hard to stop, similar to those you get when drop Acid.

( Oh my God, I just saw news that George Bush has lifted Ban on Serbia's Arms suplying.
I can only wonder what are Kosovo Albanians thinking right now, about their " Independense "?)
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 01:45 AM
CMG,
" delusional at times " ???, do you really want
your great Leader to see this ?
LifeWave customer delusional only " at times ", when He reaches for His wallet ??
Do you guys have Legit research to prove that
theory ?

C'mon now you slipin' 😉
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 01:49 AM
sorry " Leader " sounds unreal for Person who's
expertise was honed in Mental Hospital,
the right term is Patriarch EDH UK, my bad :(
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 06:32 AM
Round and round he goes, what his point is no one knows!

He certainly does like trying to make it, though, again, and again, and again.........

Duh
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 06:36 AM
Point is that you will not figure out the reason
for your existance, and mine is to tell you that.

same goes for this forum.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 06:40 AM
every lie that you spit out, I will slap with the truth, let see how far will that go.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 06:49 AM
including your Lie, of not seeing my point.

Go ahead speak for others, lil' more.
All knowing EDH, wow
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 07:10 AM
Again..."Point is that you will not figure out the reason for your existance, and mine is to tell you that."

and again..."every lie that you spit out, I will slap with the truth,..."

and again..."including your Lie, of not seeing my point."

Duh
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 02:40 PM
How can I know, my words are not truth, If
all you will say is " Duh "
I mean If you saying only " Duh ", does that mean,
I am not telling truth ?

OK, how about this, If I say " even God is wearing LifeWave patches ",
can you prove to me He's not ?

Are you going to think, maybe is better for you NOT to say " No Peter, God does not exist, or wear LifeWave patches ", because the fact still remains
you don't know God, why would you offend Him, by
sayng He's DELUSIONAL.

what I mean is, if God didn't tell you, He love patches, how do you KNOW THAT ?

Would you really talk against God, AS YOU DO,If
you know He's real, and for 20$ you can meat Him,
IF you wear X Patch ?

Duh
Joe
Member
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 04:21 PM
My head hurts.

How about we talk about the validity of the patches?

Anything new?
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 05:29 PM
Joe, that's because you're not reading one question at the time, and try to answer them.
OK, I'll try to answer them FOR YOU, you just follow question marks, there is for of them.

A to my 1st ?
" No, because If I was Lying, EDH would told me that, that's why He answered with Duh.

2nd
No EDH can not prove God is not wearing LifeWave
patches, cause He doesn't know Him, If He do
He wouldn't be on this forum, and David Schmidt
would be in the Slammer long time ago.
All He knows is BB.
But I do, and I know He's watchin you two right know, laughing, cause you two will never meet him,
but you know Him, you know He's on this forum, and He's wearing patches.
3rd
As soon as EDH figure out He have no clue who the
God is, by default, God is wearing patches.

With LifeWave just like with Acid, God or people
either use them or not.
I know EDH is not using patches, but I can't prove
He's not dropin' Acid,
I know He is on Acid right
now, cause God gave Him some little earlier.
4th
No, EDH don't know God is real, cause if He do,
He wouldn't call Him delusional for wearing
patches. Peter and God, two delusional dudes.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 06:12 PM
Why are you asking me again about patches, How
many times have to tell EDH and you.
LifeWave is scam. No validity, no legit research,
FTC all over it because they know just like all
of us THAT !!
You people are driving me nuts, FIRST couldn't
proove they work to you, no one can.
NOW I'm telling you, IT's a scam, by definition
DO I HAVE TO PROVE THAT ??

ONLY GOD CAN PROVE LifeWave is NOT scam, and unfortunately for ALL OF US HERE,
He can't LIE, He wears them.
And for all our sakes let Him do what He wants.
We sure don't want to piss Him off.
That's why David is Big.

It's rather simple, If we don't realise God's here
on this forum, It will last forever.
If we do realise God is infact Here, than, I'll
let you feel that, cause I feel what He feels.
We suffer from utter delusion, which would
all of you easily figure out.

Do I sound like normal person, If this what I've just said was Lie ?

2000 years ago, one simple kid was declared
utterly delusional, mad, you name it.... only
for you to have chance to spit in the same face today. He's path was given to you, and yours is given to me.
And that's only reason why you guys didn't do
NOTHING WRONG, so don't worry.
As long as EDH call me delusional, means He don't
fear me. And I never insisted for Him to love me,
Lil' respect wouldn't hurt.It's free will remeber.
It was destiny for Him not to like LifeWave.
If God paved that path, how can God actually be mad at EDH ?? For what, for what HE gave EDH ??

Please relax, and DON'T PANIC

JewPiter from Serbia
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 06:17 PM
Peter,

I truly wish you the very best in life, but I have to say you are now becoming an embarrassment.

You have contributed nothing of any substance to the debate about LifeWave patches. You choose to meander in a disjointed manner all too familiar.

I will overlook your slander and put it down to your obvious problems.

This thread is for comments that can bring clarity to the debate.

You have achieved nothing more than to stir the muddy water that is your life. It is not a pretty sight.

Dave
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 06:31 PM
Your concern about me, is much bigger than mine
about you. I'm even telling you it's OK, whatever you say it's fine with me. You're OK, I'm OK, if
you're going into depression because you believe
I got " problem ", how can I stop You ??
Your understanding of that " New me ", cause I told
you, LifeWave is a scam, is hard to grasp.
There is nothing I can do there either.
Look at you, first working so hard to explain to me
about placebo effect and everything, and when I say
OK ED, It is scam, now you feel sorry for me ??
Another prove that even God can't understand you.
Joe
Member
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 | 07:13 PM
Jewpiter,

With all due respect, I don't really care about God wearing the patches, the analogies you are using or who is dropping acid.

I said my head hurts because it really does hurt from trying to follow your meandering thought process in which you attempt to explain the use of the patches and how you are the lone fighter in the pursuit of truth.

This forum is about the validity of the patches. We spent 150 pages discussing them. The last 10 pages have been about the supposed violation of your consumer rights and how we don't understand the cosmic forces involved in the fight for consumer rights.

We will continue to discuss the patches' validity as new consumers may come across this forum and they have a right to get the information they need to make a better decision.

Right now, with your admission of Lifewave being a scam, you are on the side of the skeptics. Yet, you continue for the right to purchase the product. In the real world, that doesn't make sense, unless you have NO compassion for your fellow man. You say we are violating your consumer rights, yet you are violating other peoples' consumer rights to purchase a product that works as advertised. (I hope that makes sense because I don't understand your consumer right argument to begin with.)

All I get from your posts is the notion that you are comparing yourself to God as both of you are being labeled as delusional figures. I feel that this is like a soapbox for you and you are trying to make the most of it by avoiding the very issues we are trying to discuss.

In addition, who do you think make up the FTC? Some supernatural beings that are above our thinking? They have the authority to shut it down, but they use the same scientific thought processes we are proposing. We are at the very center of consumer rights, we are trying to expose a scam to prevent people from getting hurt financially, physically, and emotionally. You are at the very center of anti-consumer rights, in which you label it a scam, but encourage people to buy, to get duped.

I, and other skeptics, don't need a reason to post on this forum but for the one reason to help people. There is no financial gain from this. I gave some money to a man on the street today. I helped him buy a sandwich, yet I wasn't looking for something in return. People post here and this might be considered their contribution or community service.

Do you feel me on this one? If you don't, you have missed the entire point of this forum.
Razela
in Chicago, IL
 Member
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 | 01:06 AM
Well said Joe.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 | 01:51 AM
Thank you Razela,
I was just about, to say the same. All I was trying to point out is, there is no one coming around,
with Idea to explain how LifeWave works, after they
see what YOU DID TO ME.
I mean if you are, would you ?

Duh Duh
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 | 05:32 AM
"...what YOU DID TO ME."

Funny how our friend kept coming back time after time to have things done to him.

Why is that?

I would welcome a fresh voice with any EVIDENCE to support the claims made by businessman "Dr." David Schmidt that he has "invented" the greatest scientific breakthrough of the century.

Anyone?

Dave
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 | 06:18 AM
I'll try,
first I'm coming back, again, and again, just to show you I love you.
And you want people to produce evidence that don't exist, cause you hate them.
wake up EDH UK, David is not Doctor, there is no
evidence, what do you really want ?, I can't figure out, because God can not either.

Duh duh duh
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 | 06:25 AM
LifeWave is a scam, David is Liar, you yourself, presented facts so many times, what more do you want from a honest LifeWaver ??

don't you see your job is done, unless, people searching for truth come to see you here, the only body, who can take care of LifeWave is FTC.

For this I'm not even going to put " Duh ", it would be a sarcasm, in that case. And that's not me, that's You, don't even try to deny that.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 | 06:30 AM
One more thing, EDH, the only thing you got left
is between You and God, and if you think God don't
know who you are, cause you poster name is EDH,
someone took you for wicked ride.

just some Serbian dude, who is not a DJ.
Do you know I'm a DJ, or you believe that ?
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
 Member
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 | 09:19 AM
Well its been another year and the Nobel Prizes are being announced. Our revolutionary inventor, Dr. David Schmidt, was somehow left out AGAIN.

<a href="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2006/">2006 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine</a>

<a href="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2006/">2006 Nobel Prize For Physics</a>

How the Nobel committees could have overlooked the greatest discovery of the century, that a patch can instruct cells to change bodily functions, is beyond me. We can't even find out if he was nominated because the list of nominees is kept <a href="http://nobelprize.org/nomination/nomination_facts.html">secret for 50 years</a>.

Congratulations to the winners and to David Schmidt, there's always next year.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 | 04:28 PM
Peter,

"...wake up EDH UK, David is not Doctor, there is no evidence,..."

You really are utterly clueless aren't you!

You argue with passion but don't even have the most basic facts about the LifeWave scam.

Next.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 | 05:00 PM
I really am utterly clueless, silly, how else would I know David is not Doctor, no proof to back up claims about amount of energy you'll get from energy patch, and research is not showing nothing to those
who don't believe research will show anything.

I argue with passion just to show you that I don't want to argue, about things no one should argue about.
Round and round we go.
Razela
in Chicago, IL
 Member
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 | 07:05 PM
Thank you Razela,
I was just about, to say the same. All I was trying to point out is, there is no one coming around,
with Idea to explain how LifeWave works, after they
see what YOU DID TO ME.
I mean if you are, would you ?

Duh Duh

I have no idea what you mean by any sentence in that post. It makes no sense. Yupiter, you are no longer contributing to the forum, just writing nonsense.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 01:28 AM
Razela,
If somebody who uses LifeWave, and find out about this forum, before He/she start interacting, it's normal for Him/Her to get familiar with already established DISCUSSIONS.
If He/She already see how was MY opinion, that is identical with Hi/Hers accepted here, than He/She decides either to get involved or not.

Nobody's coming, now that's the Truth, why,
You tell me ???

If you don't understand me, non of us is crazy,
NORMAL people usualy discover misunderstanding,
and here I am discovering nothing but
insults thrown @ me.
And in rear occasions I strike back, but than
It's only me, who is " black sheep ", and
everybody else " behave remarkably well "

If you can't dig this, ask, don't call me
non-productive for discusion, cause, without me
this Forum would not make any sense, there
is nobody else wanting to talk to you.
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 01:36 AM
Yupiter said:

"I was just about, to say the same. All I was trying to point out is, there is no one coming around,
with Idea to explain how LifeWave works, after they
see what YOU DID TO ME.
I mean if you are, would you ?"

I THINK what he's trying to say is that no one new is coming here to defend LifeWave because they will be attacked for their opinions, like he feels he has been.

Of course I could be wrong. It's kind of hard to tell with writing like that.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 01:37 AM
Captain Al,
David might be left out now, but you can
never be so sure, He will not get Nobel Prize
one day, for creating Worlds greatest Game .

Game called,
" I'm Scam Doctor, If you believe me,
you'll never die ? "
IF !!! every believer do live forever, that mean
I'm already at your funeral.
Razela
in Chicago, IL
 Member
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 01:45 AM
I THINK what he's trying to say is that no one new is coming here to defend LifeWave because they will be attacked for their opinions, like he feels he has been.

I get it now! CMG, I could use you to translate all of yupiter's posts.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 01:46 AM
CMG,
amen, halelujah !!
finaly !!
All you have to do is on what kinda knifes did every post of mine run into.

Than put yourself in position of someone like me,
who've never posted here, what would you do, jump
in full of JOY to get TRASHED by someone behind
letters E,D,H,U,K ??

Cranky Media Guy, sound fresh, it sound 21 century,
it sounds like someone I would like to talk to
aswell, from the point befor my knowledge was felt. Even now, You finaly see we can talk, but someone who's coming from mental hospital ???
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 01:48 AM
I am Serbian, I don't speak English, I'm tryin'
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 01:57 AM
" All you have to do is on what kinda knifes did
every post of mine run into "

this don't make any sense, because I was rushing.

" All you have to do, is to check out barriers my
opinion couldn't possibly overcome on this forum. "

And to connect that with someone elses reason to
experience the same.
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 02:01 AM
Yupiter said:

"CMG,
My gripe is to continue my Father's Job,
He's making Keyless Locks, and I'm making Lockless
Keys.
I gave you the Key for Human Respect, and you
have no clue what to do with it. :("

I'm sure that's a metaphor of SOME kind, but damned if I can figure out what it has to do with LifeWave.

Honestly, I try to make allowance for the fact that English does not appear to be your first language, but even so, your thinking seems to be a little...uh, would "scattered" be the right word here?
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 02:02 AM
Razela,
not only you, everybody, especially former nurses, that love to trash people for no reason, should ask CMG first, notably the " broken english Guru ".
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 02:15 AM
Got your point CMG, that was little too fast,
there I was talking about God, that is noyhing else
but WORD that have made everything.
You know, when you say " My words made me "
You speaking your words, and I see what kind of Person you are.
It's simple, people are complicated.
Hell, there is One Serbian that the whole word
praises, and no one understands, His name is
Nikola Tesla, I am second, and you will NEVER
know my Name.

If you believe I exist, you will DIE trying to know me, If YOU THINK you know me, You'll live forever, trying to believe me.
( says GOD to CMG )

Now CMG, try to answer this :
Do you know who I am ?, Do you know Who is
YuPiter from Jewpiter ?
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 02:25 AM
CMG, ONLY, IF you want to know me, I can tell you
who YOU really are.
I can not force nothing on nobody, only WORD can do
that.
And it is kinda 20.th Century opinion about that word being PLEASE.
You don't have to be nice to me, just try not
to LIE yourself.
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 02:36 AM
"Got your point CMG, that was little too fast,
there I was talking about God, that is noyhing else
but WORD that have made everything.
You know, when you say " My words made me "
You speaking your words, and I see what kind of Person you are.
It's simple, people are complicated."

Sometimes, kernels of things that come close to being profound pop out...
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 02:51 AM
hcmomof4,
amen ! ( whose wisdom was that ? )
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 02:59 AM
Me, personaly,I consider myself very, very simple,
some people even know my simolicity is delusional.

Now, word "complicated" in dictionary, should have
Bob and EDH's pictures next to it, no definition.

( must correct my statement about Tesla,
nobody WILL never know who He WAS, needless to
say, No one is GOING to know WHO I am ?. )
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 03:13 AM
wwsn and EDH have achieved perfection, they indeed
have accomplished unimaginable, in prooving
that Something DO NOT WORK, ( logicaly, if something do not work, people don't need PROOF for that, they can figure that one out themselves )

they are first people on the face of the earth managing to prove
THAT LIE DO EXIST as MATTER,in form of SILLY PATCHES!

kudos dudes !!, If I am God, I would give U 2 Nobel prize. And U2 would live forever, because God loves U2 2, just like Razela, CMG, hcmomof4....
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 03:20 AM
For the way I'm putting words together, go ahead
call me Dictionary if you please, but If you
try to slap me with grammar, as an argument of ME being stupid I'll ....... well, you'll see ......
only if you was chosen 2C that one.
Charybdis
in Hell
 Member
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 11:54 AM
It's getting to be like a marathon of wacky old Jerry Lewis movies in here.

<i>*gets popcorn and props feet up*</i>


Oh wait, I don't like Jerry Lewis. Let's see what else is on.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 12:17 PM
marathon started long time ago, long before you were born, just in time for you to see, how you are not going to see it.
I'm not here either, as you, remarkably well told us, all you see are my key words, that you wanted to see.
I'm dee lite, I'm delight, and I'm the Light, only who believe in me should have eternal Light.

did i mention to wear the X patch by Lifewave.
Unless you guys got better idea for me to live
forever.
If you got " the product ", would like to see research first.
I would relly like to see what do you have to hear about it .
Boo
in The Land of the Haggii...
 Member
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 06:02 PM
Yupiter, you're getting dangerously close to being banned for spamming.

-Admin
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 | 08:15 PM
I'm LifeWaver, just like any other, if I'm spamming,
cause LifeWave works for me, especialy when some
people here finaly managed to understand that .
I'm not insulting no one, or telling nobody
Lies, or trying to sell anything.
I'll be more than happy to explain exactly everything I know about LifeWave.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 | 02:56 PM
"I'll be more than happy to explain exactly everything I know about LifeWave."

Please don't waste your time and ours with a cut and paste job from the LifeWave website. We are very familiar with the wild, unsubstantiated, claims made about this hoax product.

If you had any real inside knowledge of this product you would have given it. You have again demonstrated that you have NOTHING to add to this forum thread.

NOTHING to add, and take great delight in posting page after page of meandering gibberish.

You continue to be a total embarrassment.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 | 01:51 AM
Dear EDHUK,
" real inside knowledge " is something I gave you,
when decided to share it with good people on this
forum, first time I showed up.
After I did that, you took my " real inside knowledge " and placed it into garbage can, and gave your best to make fool out of me.
You succeeded.
And I admited, EDHUK you're right, there is
nothing coming out of David's patches, besides appeal.
Don't you see what HAVE YOU CREATED, a delusional
person that wants to be ON YOUR SIDE.

And to moderators, if you guys want to ban me for
no reason whatsoever, go ahead, I still know nothing of any wrongdoing, that is against statues
of this interesting forum.

regards

pete
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 | 11:58 AM
http://www.lifewave.com/publicevents.asp
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 | 12:03 PM
"Why am I 100% involved with LifeWave? I want to do something that no one else is doing."

So it's now down to just you Rich?

http://www.lifewave.com/compensationplan.asp
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
 Member
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 | 03:05 PM
What percentage of potential Lifewave customers do not have access to the Internet? A very small percentage I would guess.

A Google search on Lifewave yields thousands of hits for sites selling Lifewave patches. Why wouldn't Lifewave have just one site (run by them) to sell patches? What is the advantage of having thousands? They all sell the same thing. Think about how cutting out the middlemen could reduce the price of the product and increase their profit margin. This just proves they're not selling a product, they're selling distributorships and encouraging them to sign on more distributors. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the definition of a pyramid scheme? And isn't it illegal in most jurisdictions?
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 | 07:28 PM
Let's Not Forget:

http://www.pcnametagmeetings.com/ID1876-162611-91677437/

It's going to be huge!

Even more successful than last year's conference.

You'll all be going, won't you?

NO REFUNDS! ----- NO REFUNDS! ----- NO REFUNDS!

Cheers,
Dave
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 | 07:34 PM
Room 7

Bernd Friedlander
The Latest Research and Technologies on Health, Healing, and Anti-Aging

Dr. Friedlander will be discussing the latest research on disease and aging and the latest products and technologies to reverse and prevent them. His talk will include the latest research on cancer, healing with micro-structure-water, LED infrared, and electromagnetic energy, restoring health with the latest nutritional supplements, reversing hip, knee, disc degeneration and other diseases, reducing lines, wrinkles and flaccidity with the newest exciting discovered ingredient. No more need for plastic surgery, botox, or laser.

Researcher and developer, Dr. Bernd Friedlander, is a recognized authority in the fields of nutrition, preventive medicine, bio-electromagnetic, vibrational and photonic energies, exercise physiology, and regenerative cosmetic products.

This was a 2004 Expo.

In las Vegas for Lifewave

Dr. Bernd Friedlander, DC
LifeWave Skin Care Formulator
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 | 01:19 AM
Captain Al said:

"Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the definition of a pyramid scheme? And isn't it illegal in most jurisdictions?"

Well, I'm not a lawyer, but I DO know that there are legal and illegal pyramids. Amway, or Quixtar as they're known these days, appears to be a LEGAL pyramid.

It has to do with whether you actually have a product to sell, whether that is what you are primarily selling, etc.

Again, I'm not a lawyer, but I think the fact that LifeWave is snake oil would probably bear on the legality of their pyramidness (if that's a word).
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 | 01:39 AM
I'm not a lawyer either, but I'm pretty sure that even snake oil is legal to sell via pyramid. As long as the money you make is for the product sold, not for the people you've talked into selling the product, it's multi-level marketing, not pyramiding.
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 | 01:41 AM
Except, change that first sentence to be "...legal to sell via multi-level marketing."
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 | 02:50 AM
hcmomof4 said:

"As long as the money you make is for the product sold, not for the people you've talked into selling the product, it's multi-level marketing, not pyramiding."

You may be right about that. I guess the whole "selling a product that doesn't work" thing is illegal for a different reason--like fraud.
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 | 05:36 AM
Naw, you can even sell a product that doesn't work. As long as you word the claims you make carefully, you can even lie about it working. Free enterprise is a wonderful thing...
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 | 12:38 PM
We all remember the huge build up to the Los Vegas 2005 Conference. Plenty of info on the LifeWave website etc.

This year, the 2006 Los vegas Conference seems to be about to happen, yet nothing on the website. Why?

http://www.pcnametagmeetings.com/ID1876-162611-91677437/

Dave
Razela
in Chicago, IL
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 | 01:06 PM
"Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the definition of a pyramid scheme?"

Maybe Radiohead's "Pyramid Song" should be the theme of lifewave.

Ok, I know perfectly well that pyramid song has nothing to do with pyramid schemes, but I am feeling a little silly today. Then again, it does end with the line "nothing to doubt" which is what lifewavers try to claim about their product. Also it has a confusing time signature (a combination of 3/4, 4/4 and 5/4??) and lifewavers seem kind of confused. Ok, now I know I'm making a stretch here =)
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