The Museum of Hoaxes
LifeWave Energy Patches
Posted By:
Fawkes
Feb 24, 2005
 Now you can get more energy from a patch! I especially like the way that
they "believe" that it works. It is also based on years of research from
many fields. While the research may be valid, I'm not sure that their
results were intended to be used with a "patent pending blend of water,
oxygen, amino acids and organics applied to a polyester fabric and sealed
within a polymer shell".

http://www.contactplus.com/lifewave.htm

We can finally have our super-soldiers now!
Category: Health; Replies: 5918

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EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 | 08:58 AM
LUC

With great anticipation, we are still waiting to hear from you.

Dave
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 | 02:30 PM
ThermoMagneticMan said:

"I note that "Dr." Schmidt claimed in his provisional patent application that, "LifeWave Products, LLC is a small business with one employee, Dr. David Schmidt." That's pretty good, isn't it? With him being the only person at the company, he still had researched, developed, manufactured, advertised, and marketed a number of products including patches, medallions, pendants, and wrist bands according to that document, and had collected testimonials. And he had obtained a PhD on the side from an unnamed institution, much like your unnamed celebrity and your unspecified studies."

Wow. Up to this point, I had thought that Dave Schmidt was just your run-of-the-mill fraud. Now that I know he's done all of this amazing work completely on his own, I stand in awe of him. Einstein, Ford and Edison pale in comparison to David Schmidt. Now that the full impact of his genius has been revealed, I cannot imagine why there isn't a statue of him in every town square in America. All hail David Schmidt, Benefactor to Mankind!
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 | 02:44 PM
Frank said:

"By the way re: the studies. I am sure that all you knowledgable people know how long it takes to write up a study properly, submit it, get feedback (or be rejected), make fixes and then get in to the que to be "publish"... and the time lag to when it actually appears in a journal. I know all you hoaxers know about that. Finished studies aren't published studies. Everything in due time. And I know you hoaxers have sat with David Schmidt and have taken a measure of this guy to know he so full of it, right? Sure. No heresay here, right?"

Nice attempt at muddying the water, Frank. Here's the problem: LifeWavers have been telling us that studies were READY TO GO and have even given specific dates (usually months) when they would be available. Time passes, the promised date comes and goes and...NOTHING!

If the promised studies aren't ready for publication, then the LifeWavers who tell us when they will be published are the ones you should be talking to, not us. If the promised studies ARE ready, where are they? In short, the problem here isn't on the skeptical end of the debate.

"As far as "Schmidt should be known by the world already," you're kidding right? With 300 million people in USA alone, the noise of bombardment of enough crap to choke a horse, our naturally skeptical selves, just a couple other things going on in this world... you think it's that easy to break through?"

Actually, yeah, I DO think "it's that easy to break through." I've managed to get my name in just about every major newspaper in America at least once, with ZERO financing, using nothing more than my own ability to conjure up a good story. I've been on the Today Show, Good Morning, America and Oprah (among others) using the same limited resources.

Are you saying that a guy who "invented" an amazing product that imparts energy to the human body with NO side effects can't get himself some mainstream press? Tell you what, if I was in charge of LifeWave publicity, *I* could get it done. With so many mass media outlets today, if anything, it's easier than it's ever been.

"Who's going to have the last laugh?... that is the question of the hour."

Got THAT right, Dude.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 | 03:42 PM
CMG

Ah yes, the "studies".

Interesting to remember that when "Dr" David was at the Sept 2005 Las Vegas Conference with promises of exciting studies to come, Dr Lauren DeRock had already conducted her famous horse study AND it had been published in the AHVMA Journal.

Problem was that the study was so loony tunes even "Dr" David didn't want to refer to it.

As a result of questions to the AHVMA, a commitee has been set up to look at "studies" prior to publication. The AHVMA is, after all, trying to join the main stream of Veterinary Medicine.

Dr DeRock's study will be up for discussion in the AHVMA Journal. I wonder who would even know what questions to ask our industrious MLMer?

Regards,
Dave
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
 Member
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 | 09:59 AM
What, no answer from Frankie yet? Maybe the questions were too hard? Or maybe they made him think a little? Perhaps he has finally caught on to the scam and decided to disappear just like so many of the other "faithful" wavers who have posted here in the past.
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 | 02:03 PM
Captain Al said:

"What, no answer from Frankie yet? Maybe the questions were too hard? Or maybe they made him think a little?"

Maybe the LifeWave patches work kind of like Tinkerbell; you have to clap to show that you believe in them. They're "faith-based."
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 | 06:57 PM
Skin Care

So, these many months after LifeWave LLC brought us the amazing energy patches, they have now sunk to selling face cream.

It does come with "special" patches though. The patches cause you to make glutathionine.

This product is sold worldwide as a skin whitening system. I do hope they put a warning on the label. "Can cause whitening of dark skin".

Could come as a bit of a shock if you weren't ready to be like Michael Jackson.

Let's see where the good "Dr" Schmidt leads his flock next. He did always boast that he could "invent" at least a patch a month. He's rather behind the curve at the moment.

Dave
dani
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 | 09:45 PM
For all the people posting here who want to come across as so brutally educated...

Several have posted in response to "Ruth" with all the scientific facts of why the patch is a hoax. Apparently you are all missing the point of what she is saying. She understands that the patch may or may not be a hoax, but she is experiencing a decrease in pain. For many who suffer chronic pain, they would take those pain free days, be it only 1 or 2...and if the lies of another make it happen, then who are you to say that is wrong. Take it from someone who watched a loved one suffer in pain from cancer, those pain free days are golden.

You've stated your opinion once, that is enough. To shove it down ones throat over and over discourages others to keep seeking help for their condition. It makes you look pathetic.
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
 Member
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 | 10:37 PM
dani,

I'm sorry you had watch a loved one suffer. No one should have to go through that. Incidently, I don't expect you to read this whole thread but if you had you would know that at times, some have claimed this "miracle" Lifewave patch might also cure some types of cancer. They had no evidence whatsoever to back up this claim but did so anyway.

If these claims went unchallenged, you or someone else might have been conned into spending hard earned money on Lifewave patches only to find out later they were worthless. How would you feel being given false hope and then having reality come crashing down around you once again? Another undesirable result is people may forego proven treatments to try these "miracle" products and consequently do serious harm to themselves or their loved ones. If a placebo based pain reliever is needed, it should only be given on the advise of a legitimate medical practitioner, not fly-by-night website scammers.

The Lifewave people know their product is a scam. Their motivation is not to help but to take advantage of people who are in a vulnerable position. What we are trying to do here is give the other side of the story to those who are curious enough to investigate what are extraordinary but unsubstantiated claims by Lifewave. If it appears we are "continually shoving it down people's throats", it is only because Lifewave supporters keep posting here to tell us how great it is. Consumers can then make an informed choice.
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 | 11:45 PM
To shove it down ones throat over and over discourages others to keep seeking help for their condition.

dani, no one here would discourage anyone to look for relief from pain. The patches are sold primarily as an energy and stamina enhancer. On the LifeWave website I didn't see any reference to using the patches to help with chronic pain. A few of the testimonials did mention less "stiffness" usually in conjunction with increased workouts. I wouldn't think that someone with chronic pain problems would be trying to get more reps or longer workout times...

And if someone is aware that a product is a hoax, or works by placebo effect, why is it necessary to use such an expensive placebo? All that is needed is to convince your brain that asprin (or Kool-Aide, or a rubber band around the wrist) will cure what ails you, and your wallet will become heathier too.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 | 10:59 AM
Here's your Beacon of Light .....
http://www.worldwidescamexposed.com/
World Wide Scam "Exposed"
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
 Member
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 | 12:33 PM
Yupiter,

Here's another beacon of light for you:

http://www.worldwidescam.com/

It about exposing that scam called Lifewave Energy patches. Have you heard of them?

I think we've been through this before several times, like every other childish trick wavers think of. I don't suppose you have any "beacons of light" that prove those patches actually work, do you? Or perhaps all you can do is attack those who are informing public about your criminal activities?

Good work Bob! You know you have succeeded when the scammers have to resort to this. They must really have something to hide.
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 | 04:47 PM
Is he a lawyer? No.
Does he have legal training? No.
Is he a CPA that can analyze complex financial issues? No.
Does he have scientific training to examine different technologies and claims? No.

These are the qualifications you must have to recognize and uncover a scam? No wonder there are so many scams.

Especially since the first qualification is held by many scam artists...
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 | 05:11 PM
Dani

I won't ask if you are a distributor as this may offend you as it has others previously.

I know you haven't had time to read this entire forum. It is getting very long and the information about the cutting edge research on placebo pain control is posted further back.

"She understands that the patch may or may not be a hoax, but she is experiencing a decrease in pain."

Absolutely. The American research from last year has demonstrated for the very first time (using pet scan imagery) the human brain making pain killers while receiving a placebo saline IV drip.

Posters here feel that the scam artist "Dr" David Schmidt is just a tad too arrogant. His claims are very simple to shoot down for anyone in the science 101 and above class.

The problem is that there are many for whom science 101 is way too difficult.

Enter LifeWavers Tye A and Type B.

Type A. Believes the hype and is so excited at being able to spread the word AND make some money.

Tye B. Knows this is a crock of **** but is going to milk it as long as possible.

Would you be type A or Type B? Ah, yes, I'm probably being too arrogant by asking.

STILL waiting for some genuinely new insight, questions, observations about the LifeWave LLC SCAM. NONE of your input qualifies as such.

Yours in disappointment.

Dave
EDH UK
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 | 01:56 PM
Dani Dani wherefore art thou Dani,

http://www.lifewave.com/USA/ENGLISH/payplan.html

Rich Lang, longtime LifeWaver concentrates on the real reason to be involved.

Can anyone say "Not the product".

Chime in anytime Rich, it's been a while.

Nice photo, by the way. Is that really you?

Dave
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 | 01:01 PM
The **** hits the fan:

It's been a little quiet here lately, but thanks to WWSN that's about to change.

"...something that LifeWave Products did not want anyone to know. While the patches do come out of an FDA approved lab, the solutions that go into the patches do not. The company just built the clean room to make the solutions at the end of June 2006. Prior to this David lived in Georgia and made the solutions in his house in which there lived 2 adults, 2 children and 2 dogs. Clean room environment? I should say not! When he got to California he made them in the spare bedroom of his apartment. Clean room environment? I should say not.

He's managed to deceive the public and even the FDA for all these years. One should ask in what other ways David Schmidt and Lifewave have deceived the public."

Now, I wonder who might have written such an email?

Keep checking out Bob's site for further revelations.

Thanks Bob.

http://www.hawaiionline.biz/

Enjoy,
Dave
EDH UK
Nanoman
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 | 10:00 PM
Wow thanks for the insights EHUK!!!

I was extremely worried where they were being made 😊

I could care less what is in them, who makes them, and where they are made. They are non-transdermal so a clean room doesn't matter to me. My room is kind of messy right now as I am applying my sleep patch. Should I be worried?? Does this mean that the sleep patch will not work tonight?

The fact is that Lifewave is still going strong.

Have you tried the skin care patch yet? How about the pain or sleep patch?? Which one are you waiting for EDHUK?
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 | 06:39 AM
Nanoman,

Glad you took the bait. Now we can read a few more comments about this stupid scam in the form of replies to your usual "insightful post".

"I could care less what is in them, who makes them, and where they are made."

Sums you up nicely.

Dave
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
 Member
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 | 09:56 AM
So now we know where the top secret laboratory is, right next to the dog's dish.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 | 04:50 PM
Captain Al.

I guess is was top secret lavatory!

Dave
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 | 04:55 PM
All I can think about when it comes to "it doesn't matter where it's made", is this pretty much unrelated video:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1z6OCRJVks">5 second rule</a>
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 | 06:56 PM
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.

Ah, the good old subject of dog poop!

Given that we know the famous (infamous) patches are claimed to be non-transdermal, it wouldn't matter if they did contain dog poop.Schmidt obviously realised his dogs couldn't provide the required quantity hence the switch to honey and glycerin.

The information about David Schmidt making batches of honey and glycerin at home just confirms what a lying toad he really is.

I am still stunned that so many people are totally convinced that this is not a scam. Their level of conviction is astounding.

Perhaps when this whole thing is over, someone might follow up with an in-depth study of why certain people get duped in this way?

Cheers,
Dave
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 | 09:56 PM
My point wasn't so much what was in the patches, as what could be on them.

Perhaps when this whole thing is over, someone might follow up with an in-depth study of why certain people get duped in this way?

PT Barnum certainly knew what he was talking about...
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 | 01:56 AM
Nanoman said:

"I could care less what is in them, who makes them, and where they are made."

With each new comment, you clear up any confusion about whether you are the type of LifeWaver who truly believes in the product or the type who doesn't really care so long as he can make money off them. You don't care that "Dr." Schmidt isn't really a doctor, you don't care that his claims for them defy all known science and you don't even care that the guy makes them in his HOUSE, for Chrissakes!

"They are non-transdermal so a clean room doesn't matter to me."

Can you name for me any legitimate medical product that is made in the inventor's home? Even THIS doesn't cause any alarm bells to go off in your head? Like I said, you're in it for the money, Dude. Please stop pretending otherwise.

"The fact is that Lifewave is still going strong."

Yup, the money's still coming in, that's all that matters. Keep milking the credulous and desperate. If you ever have an attack of conscience (doubtful, I admit), you'll NEED that sleep patch.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 | 06:14 AM
Cranky Media Guy

Lest the LifeWavers cry foul, a point of clarification.

The email:

"...something that LifeWave Products did not want anyone to know. While the patches do come out of an FDA approved lab, the solutions that go into the patches do not. The company just built the clean room to make the solutions at the end of June 2006. Prior to this David lived in Georgia and made the solutions in his house in which there lived 2 adults, 2 children and 2 dogs. Clean room environment? I should say not! When he got to California he made them in the spare bedroom of his apartment. Clean room environment? I should say not.

He's managed to deceive the public and even the FDA for all these years. One should ask in what other ways David Schmidt and Lifewave have deceived the public."

The name of the production facility was mentioned here on the forum a while back. I emailed the facility, and surprise, surprise, received a reply. The reply was not from the facility representative but from a LifeWave employee telling THEM not to reply and to check their security. How the email came to me I'll never figure out! All part of the slick organization I guess.

Cheers,
Dave
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 | 03:04 PM
The Manufacturer

http://www.vlvassociates.com/pages/6/index.htm

William J H Grand issued the instructions to not respond to my email etc.

Enjoy.
Dave
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
 Member
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 | 10:06 PM
EDHUK,
Surely it would be normal practice not to discuss your client's business with anyone, Client confidentiality and all that. The fact that this Mr. Grand thought he had to tell it to VLV Associates just shows what a bunch of amateurs some Lifewavers are.
Cranky Media Guy
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 | 02:15 AM
I've been thinking about this whole "made at home" thing. Maybe we skeptics have been wrong about LifeWave all along. I mean, the fact that he assembles them at home just goes to show what a "hands on" guy Schmidt is. You don't see Johnson and Johnson putting Band-Aids together in their living rooms, do you? It's that personal touch that means so much.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 | 06:19 PM
Thank you WWSN for the latest news on people jumping ship in the ongoing saga of lies and deceipt.

Nigel Allen says bon voyage!

http://www.hawaiionline.biz/

Cheers Bob, always a treat.
Dave
EDH UK
ThermoMagnetic_Man
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 | 09:29 AM
Thank you, Lifewave, for giving us additional indications how gullible you think your target customers are, and how non-existent you believe their due diligence will be. The Lifewave website now says, under the
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 | 12:19 PM
ThermoMagnetic_Man

"Perhaps the Wavers out there want to argue that the rejection and abandonment of all of David Schmidt
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 | 12:30 PM
Nanoman, your comments?

I bet I can predict the answer! "DS was so busy with his patch/nanotechnology that he didn't have time to deal with those."

Or maybe "Just because those were rejected doesn't mean the patches don't work. Have you even tried them?"
Razela
in Chicago, IL
 Member
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 | 03:05 PM
I betting on the latter of those hcmomof. It seems like that is his answer to EVERY piece of evidence that he may be wrong.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 | 05:17 PM
A little more light relief.
I just love these sites!

"Schmidt also has created patches to sleep and to clear the pain. What will be the next thing? Patches to modulate the guessed right decision of the referees, so that the soccer players mark to goals
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 | 05:34 PM
Even better!

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://cgi.ebay.es/PARCHES-QUEMA-GRASA-PARA-AUMENTAR-EL-RENDIMIENTO-FISICO_W0QQitemZ170005320982QQihZ007QQcmdZViewItem&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search?q=LifeWave+con&start=10&hl=en&lr=&sa=N

"PLAYERS OF MADRID AND THE BOAT ALREADY USE THE PATCHES."

Speed boat I presume?

"All the active materials used by Lifewave in their patches are enrolled in FDA (Federal Drug Administration) American under 21CFR."

Just fill out a form and you're in!

Just precious!

EDH UK
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 | 05:38 PM
One more. My face muscles are hurting too much.

"WITHOUT ANTIRUST NOR GRASS, MINERALS, VITAMINS, DRUGS, DRUGS, TAKING NADA
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 07:04 AM
EDHUK
"Perhaps when this whole thing is over, someone might follow up with an in-depth study of why certain people get duped in this way?"

Or, when Lifewave remain legit company, selling
legit product, that just turn out to be 100% money back guarantee, throughout the world for years and years, you will not realise that you are genuine
retarded idiot, because you do not have that ability.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 07:23 AM
Nanodude:
"I could care less what is in them, who makes them, and where they are made."

EDHUK:
" Sums you up nicely "

And who are you, to judge other peoples feelings ?

an Idiot, who can kiss David Schmidt's arse
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 07:52 AM
Peter

Long time since we've heard from you.

Nice to see the quality and insight of your responses has not changed.

Feelings are not being judged here.

The self proclaimed (dishonestly) "Dr." David Schmidt IS being judged.

You have judged that he is legitimate and that his "novel" patch system is real.

Others, me included, judge that he is a fraud. He has lied about being a Doctor. He has lied about previous successful patents (all were denied).

He has lied about where the contents of the patches were "manufactured" prior to the establishment of a clean room as of 6/06. (He mixed batches in his home in Georgia prior to the split with his wife; he then mixed batches in his spare bedroom in California).

David Schmidt is a liar on the grand scale who relies on the gullibility of people like you.

Luckily, there are still new readers of this forum who read words like "...kiss David Schmidt's arse" and save themselves from this scam.

As usual Peter, your comments have added nothing of any substance or helpfulness to this debate.

As for David Schmidt's rear end, it is extremely busy at present with his host of believers, lips at the ready.

Dave
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 08:11 AM
I am buying a product, who are you to tell me anything ?
I feel that product, any way I'm fucking feeling it,
who are you to tell me anything ?
There shouldn't be a debate !
I am doing exactly what I want to do, who are you to tell me anything ?
Don't you see that Lifewave is scam only in your
beliefs.
No Man has ever proove anything with a Belief.

I did not say you are sleezoid kissing His arse.
It is a figure speech about all you, that bitch Burtis, and all you retards can do.

If you want to proove Lifewave is a scam, take that garbage of an Idea to court, don't harras me.
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 10:26 AM
"No Man has ever proove anything with a Belief."

That is exactly the point that EDHUK, Captain Al, CMG and others are trying to make...


"If you want to proove Lifewave is a scam, take that garbage of an Idea to court, don't harras me."

I'm not sure how it's harrassing you for people to come here to a "bash LifeWave" thread in a "Point out Hoaxes" forum, and bash LifeWave and point out hoaxes. Are you tied to a chair with your eyelids taped open?
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 10:55 AM
David Schmidt is obligated to comunicate with
authorities and His customers, where the hell are
you in that picture ?
All you can do is hate Him and continue with your empty accusations.
Burden of (scam) proof is on You and your bitch ass crew.
The only reason why this topic is neverending story is because you will never see that.

Me, in given circumstancies, couldn't possibly be
any happier, powered by pride of defending something
I love from "people" like yourself.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 11:32 AM
Besides being a DJ YuPiter from Jewpiter is : President and founder of " Nanotech " LLC. Novi Sad Serbia

Well, at least there's no conflict of interest to deal with is there Peter?

Putting a spin on things is second nature to you.

Next
Razela
in Chicago, IL
 Member
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 02:52 PM
Wow yupiter. What happened? I don't remember you being so mean about it. In fact, I believe I remember you mentioning that we need to stop with personal attacks. (I honestly just don't feel like taking the time to go search through 144 pages to find where you mentioned that, but I think it was you that said it). Anyways, perhaps you should take some of your own advice.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 07:26 PM
WWSN,you told us everything about David Schmidt, besides droppin garbage and shooting blanks, on your
stupid little website, can you tell me who do you think you are ?
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 08:25 PM
Peter: http://musicv2.com/artist/yupiter

Artist Friends

No Friends Listed


Not too surprising.

Duh.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 | 09:56 PM
Schmidt

If you are going to the trouble of having yet another new website, try using the correct words even if it is all a SCAM!

"David began his work on the LifeWave phenomena ten years ago and has developed the nanotechnology that causes a non-evasive patch to be able to communicate with the human body."

non-evasive NON-INVASIVE idiot!
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
 Member
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 01:03 AM
But "non-evasive" is also correct. Just send money and they come running to you...
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 03:43 AM
EDHUK, you intelligent retard you, did you check
number of plays and visits ? Got that site for less
than a year, even you can do the math, of how many hits per day that was. Every Mix on there did cost me approximately 120$, and everybody can download it for free. Do you see hatred between me and those people ?
And what really my private life have to do with my business, or my human rights ?
Especially for those who do not need to deal with me ?
Why would I be concerned about how many friends do you have in this "Dumb and dumber, Lifewave is a scam crusade"
I told you over and over, fact that you and ones
that feel like you about Lifewave being a scam,
does not make Lifewave a scam.
Scam by definition must be shut down, and you are
galaxies away from that happening.
Bringing up private lives as leverage in that attempt is nothing short of bad taste, in lack of better term.
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 06:47 AM
Peter

You are the one who has put a link to your website in your name Yupiter from Jupiter

http://musicv2.com/artist/yupiter

Surely, by doing that, you have invited us all to click on the link and look at your site?

You have made this personal by your colorful use of the English language that you have mastered so well. I'm sure I couldn't manage but a few words in your home tongue.

By your rantings and ravings you will given possible new LifeWavers cause to stop and think. I thank you for that.

Meanwhile, LifeWave now has their 3rd "new" website, hastily put together with typos galore.

At least they have now removed the apparent "testimonial" from Cyle Sage. He has been requesting his name be removed for some time.

5/21/06
"I have not purchased any Lifewave products since September 2005."

"I asked them to take my name off the site, thanks for letting me know"

Marty Wyckoff's name still appears despite his requests to have it removed.

LifeWave's version:

"I highly recommend that if you're introduced to this technology and amazing product that you try them before you make a decision. You have nothing to lose and the gain will surprise you."

Marty Wyckoff, High School Guidance Counselor

Marty's version: 5/22/06

"NO....I have not endorsed them in over a year.

Marty"

"I didn't realize that they were. I will have to see what I can do to be removed. I am glad they are headed towards collapse before they scam anymore innocent people.

Thanks
Marty"

One of the parties is lying. I wonder who?
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 06:57 AM
Peter

So, Peter, you ask thinking people around the world, and especially where you want to sell the product in Soon to be Serbia, to believe in a company headed up by a PROVEN LIAR.

David Schmidt has PROVED he is nothing more than a, not so cheap, con man.

You have demonstrated your total gullibility by your foul mouthed rantings on this HOAX forum. You have done nothing to further the LifeWave cause. In fact you have done the opposite. You words will have turned OFF many people who might have been considering buying the product. Again, I thank you for that.

You do not come across as a very nice person. Your use of the patches has done nothing to improve your questionable character. Perhaps DS will "invent" a personality patch for you.

I await your further rantings.

Dave
EDHUK
Member
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 07:09 AM
One more thing Peter

1. LifeWave Ethics

As an independent contractor and Member of LifeWave, LLC, I promise and agree that: "I will be honest and fair in all of my dealings." I will fulfill my leadership responsibilities as a Sponsor. I will follow the Policies and Procedures to the best of my ability. I will not diagnose or prescribe treatment for disease, nor will I make any claims. I will not misrepresent the LifeWave products or the Compensation Plan; nor will I engage in disparaging, misleading, deceptive, or illegal practice.

"disparaging"

ADJECTIVE: Tending or intending to belittle:

I guess this means that by using your host of "disparaging" remarks on this HOAX forum you have broken the LifeWave Code of Ethics.

Never mind. You can move on to selling gas pills..

Duh
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 07:15 AM
Dude, I really have no clue what is wrong with you ?
Of course I want Every progressive house fan, or any
EDM fan to listen to my mixes, by visiting my site,
But do I want somebody to say I don't have friends
because I did not put any of them on my list ?
No, because that's Lie.
Got more friends than I can handle, US, Serbia, England ....

And I've told you so many times,
whatever it is between ME and LIFEWAVE is my BUSINESS, and nobody elses.

Please tell me finaly, which part of this, you don't understand ??

And so many times I told you, do with LIFEWAVE
whatever you want,( more power to you ), but leave
ME( as person )and whatever I feel, alone.
ThermoMagnetic_Man
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 08:43 AM
I think Peter's postings indicate that a negative side effect of using the patches is that they make a person mean, nasty, and bitter. Clearly, David Schmidt had no business "inventing" and selling patches that significantly affect the chemical processes that take place in humans without having done the proper testing for long term negative side effects.
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 09:10 AM
No, my Thermo Magnetic Nigga, you is so wrong, because you never heard of Serbian attitude.
It's called " Don't fuck with us, we live scars. "
Turks now that, Austro-Hungarian empire found it out
Hitler was bitchslapped, and than your Niggas in '99
And how can I excpect from you to understand what happend on 9.11, when you are blind and deaf.
This what you don't see is side effect of group of blind and dumb fucks not being able to proove, and shut down legit business.
Is U feel Me now ?
Razela
in Chicago, IL
 Member
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 12:05 PM
Yupiter. Umm...are you ok?

What the hell are you talking about?

Why is our search for truth so offensive to you?

Could it perhaps be the money?
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
 Member
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 03:31 PM
I think Yupi's only rowin' with one oar these days.

The only thing I've been able to decipher from his last six or seven posts is he thinks just because we have not been able to shut down Lifewave, it must be a legitimate business. Well funny thing, we haven't really been trying to shut it down. At least I haven't made any calls to the U.S. FTC myself. All we have been doing is debating and informing readers about the lack of science behind this scam and the lack of integrity of its owners. We'll let any potential customers decide for themselves.

By the way Yupi, you may be shocked to hear it's not that easy to shut down a business in a free enterprise society. While your fellow countrymen were busy "bitchslapping Hitler", you forgot to insure a little freedom for yourselves so you may not understand the concept. It's why so many Serbs live somewhere else and the same for many Cubans, Iraqis, Iranians, Russians, Chinese, etc.

In our free society we have to accept the bad with the good. This results in there being a lot of dishonest businesses around. We just have to wait for the government to get around to Lifewave. If they don't go out of business because their customers realize the product is worthless, it will only be a matter of time before the feds do it for them.
Joel
Member
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 | 07:29 PM
Well said, Captain Al.

The only thing I would add is that a free society such as ours depends less on heavy-handed, authoritarian, jack-booted and goose-stepping action by the government, and more on consumers to gather information for themselves and make their own informed decisions. A forum like this, where people gather and present evidence, expose lies and half-truths, express opinions, and debate the conclusions to be drawn from it all, plays a vital role in that balanced process. It doesn't always work perfectly or quickly, but the result is an array of freedoms envied by people all over the world. We make it work, and work damned well it does.

That, Yupi, is called American attitude.
Joel
Yupiter from Jewpiter
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 | 03:17 AM
Captain Al, Joel, now you guys talking my language !
Al, your European history knowledge is whatever you
"believe" it is, and that's sweet. Here are some
facts (which I bet EDHUK can easily google out )
Yugoslavia was buffer zone between Europe and Asia,it was a passage for western economy, and as such it could not be hard line Comunist led, so it was created by Lord Churchill with 50 years
expiration date. We were nothing close to those countries you've mantioned, our Passport was most valuable on the black market, because unlike Americans, Brits, Canadians...we did not need any
visa to travel all over the world.
Now, listen to this. I love American government,
(needless to say people) government that have destroyed MY FAMILY, AND MY COUNTRY. Why, because
I am able to separate BUSINESS and FEELINGS.
My family is now in US,and I was for 11 years,and
I know exactly what does it mean PRESERVING AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE AT ANY COST.And again I respect that, even if they have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent children all over the world.
Even if they sacrifice four planes with American passengers and slam something else in buildings, and than bring three down by demolition.
IT'S ALL GOOD." Man has got to do, what man has got to do ", " You can't make omelet without braking some eggs ", remember ?
Brits ? The most sophisticated brains bar none.
They've sacrificed highest possible standard they could achieve with their wealth, so they can feed their weins (and I am not talking of British general population, but the chosen ones who from generation to generation control that wealth, they sarcasticly like to call "Common") with strongest narcotic known to mankind "I rule the world" high.
Now back to David. An American "institution" is
saying " INNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY "
David Schmidt, Dr.D, call Him whatever the fuck you want is INNOCENT right now. And as such His Establishment known as Lifewave is STILL legit operation, and not a SCAM by definition, because only when is PROOVEN such as " a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation " you can call it that,
as of right now if you step out with your REAL
mother fucking NAME, and publicly call David Schmidt a THIEF, LIAR, SNAKEOIL SALESMAN or anything in that fashion, He could bitchslap you
very hard with Lawsuit, and you probably wouldn't see the Sun for long time.
It is American way, remember ?
Now when somebody have in their culture saying
"knowing is believing" or "truth is faith" how can I possibly explain that 1+1=2
Don't you see, that I am the only Lifewave customer on this sick forum for long time, and it is not sick because you have something against technology, or Company, it is sick because you
sick people are against "Lifewave belivers" feelings, because they are absolutely innocent for
having feelings that they have.
I am here because I love you, and trying to give my best to explain you're wrong for what you doing. Just like I would do the same if my friend is using narcotics, I would also call him a Retard, Idiot, motherfucker... whatever it take to
try to save him. This is 21 century, use of these terms in western cultures is absolutely normal.
Especialy motherfucker, because is derived from
Jesus.
Boo
in The Land of the Haggii...
 Member
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 | 07:01 AM
Well, use of those terms is not approved of on this site. Kindly keep it civil.

- Moderator.
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