A Matrix-style poster depicting a Catholic priest as Neo isn't a spoof. The Catholic Church really is distributing these things. It's part of their
new recruitment campaign:
The poster's creator, the Rev. Jonathan Meyer, 28, associate director of youth ministries for the Archdiocese of Indianapolis, says pop culture is the key to attracting young men to an occupation that has gotten bad press.
"If we can get high-school youth to hang a picture of a priest in their room, that's huge in helping young men to answer the call to the priesthood," the cleric said. "Anyone who is a 'Matrix' guru looks at the picture and automatically gets it."
Crucifix in hand, Father Meyer posed for the poster, rated R for "restricted to those radically in love with Jesus Christ." Running time is "all eternity," and its title reads, "The Catholic priesthood: The answer is out there ... and it's calling you."
I'm wondering how far the Neo as Catholic priest analogy can be extended. In the second Matrix movie, Neo has sex with Trinity. So how are we supposed to interpret that? In one sense it seems appropriate (priests are dedicating themselves to God, or the Holy Trinity), but in another way it doesn't seem to be the message the Church intended. (via
Notes From the Lounge)
A Matrix-style poster depicting a Catholic priest as Neo isn't a spoof. The Catholic Church really is distributing these things. It's part of their new recruitment campaign:
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As you can probably tell, this ain't my first rodeo.
1. No, I do not hate the elderly in fact in find the elderly funny, and amusing because they try and act like teenagers which usually ends in them forgetting what they are doing. This is not an insult to the old citizens in the world it's just a fact of life. When you get older you forget things and your memory does start to fade.
2. And how old do I think you are? Well when I went back a couple pages to look for your sites I remember seeing you say how you had 3 children that we all grown up. I honestly have no idea how old you are but I'tt take a guess just for you- My guess is that you're 54 years old. There now feel free to comment since I already know you will.
William
Yup, for whatever reason(s), online debates DO tend to get nasty.
Sure, we absolutely should cool the rhetoric and stick to the subject. Sign me up!
"Also Cranky you don't happen to have any other sites talking about Catholic Bishops covering up for priests or priests hiding in the Vatican do you?"
I'll have to look around for direct links to that stuff when I have a moment. I DO know that the priest accused of being the worst about hurting kids was moved to the Vatican where, to my knowledge, he still works in the Pope's inner circle.
The Boston Globe is, as I said, the American newspaper which probably has followed this story the closest, as the Catholic Church is a VERY powerful entity in Massachusetts in general and Boston specifically. A LOT of stuff about this is going to be found in the Globe's archives.
I'll let you read it but it basically said while the Catholic Church has not literally or intentionally hiden and is hiding molestors in the Vatican it also has not made them go back to the U.S. to face their crimes and punishments they rightly deserve.And I could see how some could say that they are hiding the victim's because the Vatican does not say to stop them. This quote really says it all "Mr. Romley said he saw no point in writing to the Vatican when Father Henn was indicted about a month later. He understands that the Vatican has no authority to extradite Father Henn, but he believes it could use its church power to pressure the priest to return to Phoenix. "Clearly there are formal charges here," said Mr. Romley, who was raised a Catholic. "They [priests] give a vow of obedience. It seems like it is real easy to say, 'You shall return, and if not, we defrock you.' " Some of the Pope's close friends also are in the Vatican but he has let them stay there due to they fact they told him they were innocent.It would seem Cranky that whether or not the priest's are guilty was irrelevant to the last Pope and if he believed them when they said they wer innocent and were wrongly accussed he would allow them to stay, while telling them they sould face trial but not forcing them to.The current Pope, Benedict the 16th however has very currently spoken out against pedophilia and the hiding or harboring these pedophiles in a recent statement made about a week ago.He fully intends to the best of my knowledge to have a list of current clergy accused of pedophilia that are hiding from the law given to him so he can either have them defrocked and face trial, or face trial and then if guilty defrocked.It seems to me that this "scandal" was called a "scandal" in the first place because Pope John Paul was just to easygiong and gullible than our current Pope regrading when these pedophiles and accused pedophiles said they were innocent. Our current Pope is fixing that situation though, it will take some time but it will happen.
There's no point in going on about statistic's, because your just following a Munchausen's ability to divert your questioning from the crime to a bunch of argumentative number fact's, and that's a classic Schitzo's manouver to get off the supect of what they know they are guilty of, and that's a fact!
So, let's ask you then Cranky, why are you deliberately diverting everyone's attention's to crap statistic's on number's like a clasic half brained Munchausen By Proxy for, when you havnt answered the simple question of 'What the fuck is the Vatican involved in so much Global peadophility on a regular basis for generation's for!', and you still think the Bible is going to give you a Scapegoat if you keep avoiding the question's! so answer the fucking question Wanky Cranky, it's fucking simple enough! What's the Vatican's excuse from the Bible with which they use to justify their sexual abuse's of children and keep themselve's out of the Public Criminal List's! Answer the fucking question you pathetic, immature, Lakovski (lack of sky, ie; right hemisphere conscious coherence!), Vatican peadophile!
As far as the foundations of the Vatican are concerned, even the stones of the Vatican themselves are less than 200 year's old, human bone's don't last more than 100 year's in british soil before they turn to dust, and the National Geographic Society is very closely in legue with the British Legion Reenactment Societys to dig up all their play act sites where they've performed pagan sacrifices since 1956, just to make history older than it really is, and this has been done in every country around the Globe since 1984, when Cine/Sine film was first invented, and a picture tells a thousand words! Its easy to work out the Vatican has faked its history, just get yourselves a Gensenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon To The Old Testament, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, and Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon To The New Testament, and then you might see how Welsh Gealic got turned into Hebrew-Chaldee not very long ago, and the whole foundation of the Vatican is based on an experiment run by the Nazi's reversing languedge's to hide behind, and only someone with a particular Psyche would know the Vatican's history is fake, just like the British Battle of the Somme/Sleep, is the British Establishment's Secret Society's rhetoric for a Morphine obsessed Nation, and that's all this war in Iraq and Afghanistan is all about, the World Healt Organisation's hold on the Global Theatre that include's the religious aspect in the guise of the Vatican, a man made religion which is no religion at all, which is the Freemason, AKA Shull n' Bone's Dog-ma! So come on Cranky, what's the Big Deal the Vatican made with the Freemason's, 'The Condemnation of Jeannette', a term used for dual hemisphered female's, ie; Tomboy's, (Revelation 22; The Spirit and the Bride in one body of flesh!), which involved abdicated King Edward in 1936, and half brained Hitler and his Cesarian/Cesaryan Scientist's, because I know it has more to do with, 'Don't let the right hand (of the brain), know what the left hand (of the brain), is doing!', to disconnect from the conscious coherence Bosse in the right hemisphere of the brain is what the Vatican has been using for decade's, because I know if they had any connection with the Real God of this Universe, they'ed be quite capable of Bowing their 33 bones in their spinal chords around the Roslyn Apprentice Pillar on any Lay Line, ie; '$', (as used in symbolism for the World Health Org), on this Planet!
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 11:11 PM.
See! Cranky, your stating the obvious that the Vatican is an Abnormal Corrupted Organisation that dose not report the systematic abuse's of children by their Priest's, and you've admitted it on a Public Internet! So you stating then that the Vatican has no Public Law with which to answer to the crime's they commit, and what make's you think this? Is it because your a fucking Pavlov with no conscious coherence of your right hemisphere Bosse with your left hemisphere Super Id Munchausen Schitzophrenic Dog shit for brain!
If you cannot work out the simplicity of translation from 'Hebrew' to "one from the other side", then your the one's that need labotamising permainately, because there is no other power in man made religion other than to fuck about in the public record's, and change the history to condition nation's, and that's what this planet will judge on man, the real LORE, which no man, Nasa or Nazi, can stop! Shake a leg, heheheh!
It dosn't matter to me what man made religion you state you are attained to, or what colour your skin is on the outside, your all black as the Ace of Spade's on the inside, and if you don't know where in your pathetic little half brain's the concept of Evil and the Devil derive's from what part of your own plebomeba psyche, then thank fuck this planet you're walking on has no more Aroura Borialis for any one of you to get a Second Chance with! Because all the Dark Power you, or any Secret Society has on this planet is to get someone to fuck about in the public paperwork to hide their shit in, and that aint no Dark Power whatsoever!
Now go and find that Truth in the Bible, because you don't even know what the name 'Neah' mean's!
Amen = 'ti's done', and that's my name!
What happened? Some half brained peado called Alistair Little Prick Crowely changed the word 'Sine', the Dutch word for 'Jean' to 'Sin' when he got the name of Mrs Nothing from the Hermetic Text's that the Vatican gave him!
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/06/22/placa/
It's from http://www.biblicalrecorder.org/content/news/2007/06_25_2007/ne250607the.shtml
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_8884062
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20080416/D9038HR00.html
"That's interesting and all but at the end it mentioned how that priest whom was accused of groping the man was defrocked as was another priest in Denver who died in 2003."
Oooh, their wrists must really sting from that slapping. Child molesters need to be put into JAIL, not just kicked out of their little club.
Yes, it looks as if the Church is FINALLY taking the problem seriously, but it shouldn't have taken hundreds or thousands of complaints and two billion dollars in payments to victims.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection
"'The U.S. Catholic Church has responded to its national abuse scandal with a systemic solution. Each diocese must have a molestation policy that requires an investigation by a lay-dominated review panel, care for the victims, defrocking of abusive priests, and protection of the rights of the accused and accusers'. is from 2008 wheras your article is from 2005."
I never said that the article WASN'T from 2005.
Yes, I'm aware of what the Church is currently saying. Only time will determine whether it's just words, however.
"That was three years ago and as Will has laready proven the Pope is handling the situation all right now."
Yes, the Church is SAYING it is handling the situation. We'll see.
Can anyone produce proof that the Catholic Church has turned even one child molesting priest over to law enforcement or even merely excommunicated one? The Bishops were quick to say that politicians who support abortion rights were automatically excommunicated, but I can't recall any official Church statements on the same thing concerning priests who anally raped children.
Over the past weekend, the Pope administered Communion to Rudy Giuliani, the ex-mayor of New York City, who at least used to support abortion rights and who married at least once outside of the Church, which SHOULD exclude him from Communion. This kind of hypocrisy is the reason I'm less than 100% confident that the Church will follow through on its nice words about protecting children.
"But just so you know molestation and raping/getting divorced are not some of the reasons one gets excommunicated. You get excommunicated for heresy, pro-abortion people in the government-you get the idea."
Let's see...the Catholic Church says it is the One True Faith. The Pope, according to the Church, is God's emissary on Earth. The Church's rules come through the Pope from God (after all, where else would they come from?)
If we accept that, we're left with the conclusion that God takes "heresy" and being pro-choice MUCH more seriously than He takes anal raping young children.
Wow. I know He works in mysterious ways and all that, but...wow.
Oh, by the way, Rudy Giuliani was very vocally pro-choice when he was mayor of New York, but apparently that only matters to the Church if you're a Democrat (as witnessed by the fact that Bishops announced they would not administer Holy Communion to John Kerry because he was pro-choice, although they had no problem with Rudy receiving it).
I wish you a good life, as well.
"Cranky I don't think it's a matter of whether or not Ian wanted to answer your questions, the question is really whether or not he wanted to deal with YOU."
I guess that's one way to rationalize not being able to explain the irrational behavior of your church. I think it's called "blame the messenger."
Honestly, does it make sense that the Church will excommunicate you for being pro-choice or for being married outside of it but NOT for anally raping young children? Remember, *I* say that, Ian did. I just pointed out the absurdity of it.
"Cranky you have this thing that whenever someone tries to protect a Church that has never hurt you in any way to get all pissed off and start ranting."
Since I never said that the Catholic Church hurt *me,* bringing that up is a red herring. The fact is that people in the Catholic Church DID hurt young children and other people in the Church took steps to cover those crimes up. THAT'S what I'm mad at the Church for. Besides, how would you know whether I have ever been hurt by the Catholic Church? You're going to hurt yourself jumping to conclusions like that.
Do you remember the part of the Bible where Jesus says that you will be judged by how you treat the least among us? If you believe that, then you have to think that the child molesting priests will not be judged well upon their death.
"Even when William provides you with CURRENT AND VERY RECENT news articles saying that this current Pope is making sure sexual abuse cases drastically decrease in the next couple of years you simply call it "lies" make an unnecessary comment about priest's raping boys and provide us with out-dated articles from before our current Pope was even elected to be the next successor of St. Peter."
Please show me where I said the Pope was lying. What I DID say was that I was less than convinced that the Church will follow through on those lovely-sounding words.
My skepticism would be based, at least in part, on something called the Ratzinger Report. I've referred to this before; it's a report written by the current Pope back in the 80's which recommendd that the Church sit on the information about children who were molested by priests until ten years after their 18th birthday. In other words, information about a child who was molested at ten years old would be sealed for EIGHTEEN YEARS. Looks like a cover-up to me.
The Pope is saying nice things now. Unfortunately, his actions in the past contradict the notion that he is for transparency and openness.
People, including the Pope, should be judged by their actions rather than their words.