Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.
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I am happy that there seems a moment here when we are stopping killing eachother online..it seems a nice place to be in..a hugely nicer place than before.
JLizard I have sent your details to my Uncle lawer..I believe he will contat you sometime soon and also the details of Msr Grimal.This debate is interesting and I do believe that everyones opinions are well founded.
Is it plagery to quote a poet like JLizard just did?..I dont think so! Presterjack..it was a quote..and not a claiming to authour..(writer)..we can all quote and share genius cant we?..what else is singing Jims songs in the streets like me and my friends do on Saturday nights..it is a celebration..not a wish to emulate.
Peace to all
Andreii
Why don't you try keeping to the forum. Now that we all know of your super intelligence. Why don't you use that to solve the mystery?
Cheers.
I'm glad if we make you laugh, but hopefully if it is in enjoyment. You have a lot of anger issues as believe me so do I. The reason I tried to take the quote seriously is because I know that there are intellectuals who live in a literary life and I have great respect for the culture of these thinkers.
Thanks for answering up to my challenge of identifying who the Oregonians are. In retrospect, I wish I would have been more sensitive as in fulfilling my questioning we have invaded the privacy of some pretty cool peeps.
Andreii, look foreward to the correspondance. And tell French people to quit snubbing meatloaf.
If it's so easy to figure out....then why are you here?
Have a good evening.
peace to all..........
To all fans of Jim..I was in Pere Lachaise two days ago and put a flower on his grave on behalf of everyone who contribute here.
I sat for a moment and reflected..and wished peace for him and his fans..I cleaned the place up a bit..and I encourage all who visit the grave to do it..there are guards there now but they dont mind if you help out a bit.
Lizard my Uncle was interviewed last week by some what I describe as shady types of folks...My Aunt kicked their butts out..I dont know if they were Morrison estate or what..I do know it freaked everyone out. I was not there but I will be next time, as there needs to be a closing here I think.
I hope calling you Lizard isn't rude..I notice that Kiri and Aries dont say much these days..maybe on holiday?...Sante!!
Andreii
I am not a violent type! but I reserve rights to kick anti Meatloaf guys wherever they domicile..I wear hard shoes too!!
Just please explain these words..."I wont do that" and you will make me a happy frog!
Cheers
Andreii
"No one here gets out alive"
Aniken Douglas,So you guys pray for me ok!
The Frogs tells the story of the god Dionysus, despairing of the state of Athens' tragedians, and allegedly recovering from the disastrous Battle of Arginusae. He travels to Hades to bring Euripides back from the dead. He brings along his slave Xanthias, who is smarter, stronger, more rational, more prudent, and braver than Dionysus. The play opens as Xanthias and Dionysus argue over what kind of complaints Xanthias can use to open the play comically.
I never even met cliff,who the fuck is elizabeth
I am married fucking retard! Im married
Posted by keri raymer in rockford IL on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 03:56 AM ? ??????????????????????????????????????then what is this??????????????????
I am 33 I am to young! Sorry for the confusion! LOL I made up a name being FUNNY!
Dont take these comments seriously..We all understood that you were being ironic when you saids you were Jims daughter..well those people who followed the debate anyway. (I hope my English is ok ..cos I'm writing this with an English guy sitting next to me) I wish people wouldn't butt in to the debate without reading what said before..and just slamming those folks who have an opinion..whether Keri, Lizard or Aries.
I hope that the stuff that I had closes something for the fans..but I cant guarantee it so..I cant even guarantee that it will ever be showed..I hope so, just so I dont seem..and my Uncle dont seem a liar.
I know nothing exept I think it disgraceful to mock a womans miscarriege so stop this now! This debate is turning so horrible it is unseemley and nasty..my own girlfriend had a miscarriage a month ago and I am very upset.
Lizard I completely mis understood your reference to meatloaf..so more fool me!...I will also concur that plagery isn't a suitable word..I dont see Lizard has plagerised anything..and I further announce that John Donne cant wipe Rimbauds butt..Rimbaud!was at least in Africa!!!..think of "wild Child" and you have the essence.
Keri ..I'm so sorry for the loss..believe me..I'm so sorry
andreii
I see everyone is being nasty to eachother again...or maybe I should read all comments before writing.
Good Night al...sweet dreams
Andreii
Gary Patterson, Coast 2 Coast Radio, and more. To my understanding, nobody has said that it is NOT Jim.
Well in any event... You are telling us to believe that you offered "this guy"/"gery", 300,000 dollars to hang out
with Jim with 4 friends and he said buy the video. AND based upon your anonymous rant and claim we should
believe you over anyone else regardless of the evidence and hard work they have done, and give up this debate.
My gosh, you are a bit of an idiot if you think your opinion passes muster.
Further, your post is an insult to anyone's intelligence that you expect to believe it. INCLUDING Gerald Pitts.
I am not saying that I believe that the guy in Oregon is Jim but...
He, as I, probably think you are a nutcase and a bull shitter. And although he would like everyone in the world, including nut cases,
to buy his video, he probably wants nothing to do with meeting you or setting up a meeting with you.
And I doubt any of us seriously believe that you would deliver on your 300,000 promise.
Further, Jim isn't hiding, and I happen to know that he WILL hang out with you and some friends for 300,000 dollars.
He is easy to find, just Google him.
What people don't know is that it is claimed that Jim's body was in the Medical Institute In Paris. Theres a book out by someone who went to Paris and to the Institute..and Jim's name was no where in the database, yet the doctor who examined his body there said he remembered seeing Mr. Morrison. The book I believe was published circa 1990.
There are other reports by people who said they were at the apartment, that Jim was laid out on the bed and dry ice was used to keep his body cool. Bill Siddons flew to Paris but never looked inside the nailed cheap coffin.
IF he did die, surely Pam would have had him cremated knowing a flurry of people would forever flock his grave, something Jim did not want..he wanted privacy and peace.
About the picture in Rodeo West. I have one that was on that site of the Jim look-alike standing next to the blonde man. That picture was only on the site a day or two, then taken down permanently. THAT picture looks very much like Jim did where a young JM smiled in a goofy way. This elder JM pic is exactly the same way.
I certainly dont look like I did 20 years ago..most people wouldnt recognize me.
My conculsion is that either Jim did die, suicide or bloodclot in the lung OR he went to a hospital, recovered and is living in Europe with funds being directed to him by a third party. Who really knows? We never will because IF he is alive, he will never reveal himself.
I believed it to for a while,And there has been so many things said its crazy,but really in the end if he died he's gone,or if he's alive he don't want to be bothered,It's just funny how these idiots ramble on over and over and over! AND THOMAS,KISS MY %%%,I HAVE A GREAT LIFE YOU DON'T KNOW ME AND IT'S MYSPACE I CAN PUT WHATEVER I WANT ON THERE,IF I WANT TO SAY JIM IS ALIVE AND LIVES IN MY BASEMENT I CAN,IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT TO BAD SO SAD! AND I NEVER SAID MY NAME IS ELIZABETH RETARDS,I SAID ITS PRETTY EASY TO CHANGE YOUR NAME AND SAY YOUR SOMEONE YOUR NOT,IF YOU COULD READ YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT I WROTE....
Today I finished reading ALL the posts on this site. It really makes me wonder why the Morrison family does not have the body exhumed to make sure there is a body in there, and if there is, DNA to see if its Jims.
From what I gather, Admiral Morrison does not speak about Jim (except in a few statements from "The Doors by the Doors" book.) When Jim was placed in the Medical Institute in Paris, I wonder if there was any autopsy or photos that we don't know about and sent to the Admiral to confirm his son was indeed deceased. I would never be able to take the word of a foregin embassy that my son/daughter died in another country unless I saw proof or had the grave exhumed.
Now that I've read all the posts, yes, there are two pictures from the Gerald site that resemble Jim. How could Jim even be in this country when Florida has not yet given him a pardon. He surely would have had to go through the appelate process and get those charges dropped so he doesnt face jail time. IF the government knew he was alive, they would find him would they not?
Im just throwing questions out there.
Heres some other intresting facts: When Brian Jones died, Jim wrote and dated his "Ode to Brian Jones" July 3 (the day Jones died). That handwritten note by Jim is in one of the latest books with some poems, pictures given by his family. If Jim committed suicide, perhaps he wanted to do it on the same day as Brian Jones, July 3. Then again, there are pictures on the internet of Jim and Pam only about a week before he died. (he's wearing the eggplant colored shirt and she in a long black cape/coat). He looks FINE to me here and he is not overweight at all... he is slim. He is smiling as he and Pam are photographed, sitting at lunch and walking about Paris. How then, does Mr. Raisson (spelling), one of the fire-brigade attendees say he saw a "fat man in a bathtub". Jim was not fat as proven by pics taken just before that.
When we are in water, we look heavier, but this gentleman also states they took his body out of the tub and placed him on the bed. Would he not see how slim Jim was at that point.
So yes, there are a lot of holes in the story. The timeline. Pam's drug dealer the Count, who flees the country when he finds out Jim Morrison is dead and takes MaryAnn Faithful with him.
No one is telling the truth. Not Pam, and she is the only one who could ever have told the truth.
So the solution comes back once again...exhume the body (if there is one in there) find out what killed this person, take DNA. And if it is the great Jim Morrison our answers can finally be put to rest.
I feel as fans, we are owed that much to know the truth, and the truth is only an exhumation/DNA away.
What I wanted to point out was if this is indeed (one of the men photographed) Jim Morrison why isnt The Doors Corporation and the Morrison family suing RW to put a stop to this? Do they know something we dont? There is also a video out there using advertisement with Light My Fire for the same. Here is something I noticed:
In the RodeosWest statement, they say this is Jim Morrison of the "Doors". There is a big difference between the words, "The Doors" and
the "Doors." RW is using the latter, which may make legal action difficult. John Densmore, as you all know, took Ray and Robbie to court for using the name "THE DOORS OF THE 21ST CENTURY".
That was because the word "THE DOORS" was inclusive in the title. Gerald Pitts has excluded the word "THE" from the official title saying only the "DOORS". Perhaps this is the way he has avoided prosecution?
Then again, RW is claiming this is Jim Morrison and sent all kinds of correspondence to The Doors Management without any response. You can't pretend to be someone on the internet and claim to truthfully be so without legal problems yet neither The Doors nor the Morrison Family has tried to shut the site down.
Any thought on this one, as to why no action has been taken..the site is still up there.
Barb
On youtube you will find an interview with Ray joking that Jim is alive as a cowboy in Oregon. Other people say why should the Doors investigate RW when it is just a flybynight organization out to make a buck.
The truth of the matter is that RW has been around for almost 10 years and has invested what little resources it has to try to break out what it knows to be true. Until the 5million dollar law suit won by John Densmore (thank you Mr. Densmore!), no one could touch the Doors/Riders On the Storm/of the 21stCentury but now the glass spider is shattered. The truth will be known to everyone. In the meantime, true Jim Morrison fans have made their hearts known.
I wonder what it would take to get someone to has one of these types of cameras to look underground. It also comes to mind that Pam may have had Jim cremated and scattered his ashes in one of his favorite places in France. There is at least one person on the Doors board who knew Jim that stated she didnt think he was buried there, she had a lot of doubts. I have serious doubts that he is buried there as well.
JLizard, I have an open mind about Jim's sudden disappearance. Only a few people saw his body. I also have questions about his disappearance like was it suicide or did someone kill him. Notice all the Nixon-era "rebels" were gone in a flash, Hendrix, Joplin, Morrison..and even Lennon. It wasn't until Lennon made his last album that he was taken out. Yet his killer isn't in a psych ward and there was no trial. Some people think government conspiracy to take out the "rebels" of our society, especially such influential and charasmatic people like the above.
Do you believe personally that Morrison is alive? I think if anyone wanted to escape forever and leave everything, he would be the one to pull it off. He was beating to a different drum than Lennon or Hendrix or anyone else. I really wouldnt be surprised one day if we found out he was living in Saychilles (like Ray mentioned) or some remote part of the world, having $$$ funnelled to him through a third.
Im going to write more about this subject, read below!
Let me share a few things with you. I grew up in Long Island and myself and the boy across the street were good friends since age 3. He was also friends with my brother. His sister still lives in the house across the street from my mother. His name is Richie. He had married someone who was very abusive to him physically (my brother used to tell me horror stories) and Richie told me in our early 30s things that were going on. He divorced his wife, she married someone in a crazy cult, Richie was able to get his 3 children away from them and he fled to Florida. He was very close to his sisters, as they all lived in the same house. He told me he was moving to Florida..and that was it..he disappeared. His sister told my mother they have never heard from him since and they are unable to track him down.
His sister said the ex-wife's husband had put a contract out on his life because he had the kids. Yet when I wrote to her two years ago at Christmas, she told me she heard from Rich about 7 years ago but not since.
Funny she told me and my mother two different stories. Maybe thats because I dont live there at the time. Obviously the sister is protecting Rich so no one knows his whereabouts..it happens!
Also my husband's grandfather pulled a fake death as well. My father in law lived with his dad until age 8..he was alcholic and told me his father died but he was too young to go to the funeral, he was sent to live with an aunt.
My father in law hired people about 10 years ago to track down where his father was buried and found out, his father had moved to California, got married had children, apparently quit drinking because he lived to be 86. When my father in law was telling me about his father 30 years ago, and how he died, etc. the man was actually alive at the time and living in California! And he had even told me the details of how his father was in a hospital dying from alcoholism and died in his early 30s... so, anything can happen!
JLizard, can you tell me if you honestly think Jim is alive?
I was hoping that one day his brother/sister would have his grave exhumed or flown to the US. If it were my brother, I would want DNA testing to see what killed my brother. They can do DNA and testing on bones thousands of years old.
Funny thing is the word we have to type in the above box to get this printed is "door". I thought that quite unusual.