Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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Second, most Satanists have many talents and the majority are highly intelligent and use their skills to be successful in the real world.
Also, titles in the Church of Satan are rewarded based upon success in the real world, as Peter Gilmore has stated many times in interviews.
I have also known of other Satanists who are not members of the Church of Satan who are highly successful in the real world. Many of these Satanists have very good educations, good jobs and have their own businesses.
Your assertion that all so-called vampires and Satanists live "miserable lives" is not an accurate representation of most so-called vampires or Satanists that I have known of.
You don't hurt my feelings, yet you are showing your ignorance of both religions and their supporters by such a misleading statement.
However, I do find your satire to be entertaining. 😛
Also, some Temple members would argue that they do not "believe everything," as you accuse them; yet, after they argue this, some have been known to believe the mythology in the VB before even validating the teachings. I witnessed this on many occasions on their messageboard.
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm
The Undead gods have abandoned the need for bodies at all. But you need cryogenics to preserve your physical body.
There will be an apocalypse. But somehow the cryogenics will survive and technology will progress enough to revive you.
Vampirizing will keep you unusually youthful. But the head of TOV walks with cane.
WE ARE THE ELITE OF THE EARTH
yet they couldnt even raise enough cash to save the Black House
WE ARE THE ELITE OF THE EARTH
which -leading- scientists and artists are COS members? Kenneth Anger was probably the most esteemed, and he hasn't made anything since the 70s.
it's all over-compensating BS
Scientists who are CoS members obviously wouldn't out themselves. CoS philosophy actually discourages that.
However regarding artists, apparently you've done no research. If there's one criticism that cannot be reasonably leveled against the CoS, it is that they lack artists. Chris Cooper is probably one of the most recognizable pop culture artists. Nevermind Marcus Mayer, Diabolus Rex, etc etc.
Those 3 names you listed could not be construed in any way as significant artists. You sound like a COS fan-boy ,not someone knowledgable about art. I can assure you, none of those names are a blip on the art scene, or will be remembered decades from now.
If you care to explain their aesthetically ground-breaking importance, I'd be happy to read it. That would make for some amusement.
Will you trot out Michael Moynihan and Marilyn Manson next? Yes, important composers on par with Stravinsky...lol the elite indeed.
and a big LOL@ the secret, important scientists affiliated with the COS...More pathetic smoke and mirrors.
LOL, this is what the previous poster considers the work of a Leading artist.
I'm laughing at the infinite delusion of COS fanboys.
http://spetsnazarmysurplus.com/online_store/images/punk skulls.jpg
lol
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It's a religion. All religions require money to run.
Arguing its legitimacy is as useful as arguing the existence of god. It's a waste of time, effort and most importantly just shows how intolerant the majority of society is these days.
It can therefore NOT be proven as a "Hoax" BECAUSE it does fall under the "Religion" category. Anyone that wants to continue to debate this issue is nothing more than a moron with too much time on their hands.
A religion can't be proven to be a hoax? what kind of reasoning is that? the existence or non-existence of god can not be proven, it's not falsifiable. However, once again, we CAN note the glaring contradictions present in the tov-
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The Undead gods have abandoned the need for bodies at all...but you need cryogenics to preserve your physical body.
There will be an apocalypse...but somehow the cryogenic chambers will survive and technology will progress enough to revive you.
Vampirizing will keep you unusually youthful..but the head of TOV walks with cane."
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Your contention is as retarded as saying that the fundamentalist christians' claim regarding the age of the earth can't be refuted because it's in the domain of religion.
The whining about the "intolerance" present in society is precious too. We're talking about a group that discusses lording over the planet. lol
You're either a frighteningly dim person or someone with a financial stake in the TOV.
So who says the Satanists must be a champion for society and help make the quality of life for everyone as a whole better? You seemed to have missed the boat. Satanism is about improving your own quality of life. While you believe Satanists should measure themselves by some standard set by society they just live their own lives as their own Gods.
Who says that there aren't leading figures in various fields? Why the fuck would a Satanist be required to wear his affiliation on his sleeve just to prove to what others the Church of Satan is capable of?
By the way, if you think you can do better than Diabolus Rex then YOU'RE the one whose dreaming.
http://www.diabolusrex.com/paintings/index.html
So, COS members are not important figures in the arts and sciences because that would be altruistic? lol this is some peculiarly pathetic reasoning.
The COS has always proclaimed itself superior, the haven for the elite, etc. Anyone with minimal sense can become an egoist. The simple act of indulging yourself doesn't make you part of an elite. Are you intelligent enough to ferret out these distinctions?
It's quite comical that you don't see the cultural relativism youre endorsing here, which was one of the very things Lavey claimed to be combating.
"Who says that there aren't leading figures in various fields? Why the fuck would a Satanist be required to wear his affiliation on his sleeve just to prove to what others the Church of Satan is capable of?"
This is as laughable as proclaiming "who says god doesnt exist, why would he need to come out and prove himself?"
The COS is always quick to tout any minor achievement by any member, down to crappily produced newsletters of middling intelligence.
You appear to be one of those sorry COS members who live in a fantasy realm where you are part of a "hidden empire" (Lavey's phrase). A mighty hand behind the scenes that couldn't even cobble enough money to purchase their most important shrine (the Black House).
"By the way, if you think you can do better than Diabolus Rex then YOU'RE the one whose dreaming"
That stuff looks like Giger knock-offs. Perhaps you should go to a real art museum in any major city....anyway... once again...proclaiming yourself THE ELITE OF THE EARTH should actually signify something, unless you wish to become an object of ridicule.
Interesting that you choose to compare them to the best artists of centuries past rather than against other modern artists and composers, most of whom are...underwhelming, to say the least. Maybe you're one of those braindead dolts who foists the likes of Pollack up as "art" because his paintings sell for a pretty penny.
Given that you're busy barking up the skirts of your superiors, why will I not be surprised when the question of "What have you done" is blown off? Be sure to let us know when your symphony makes the Met.
PS - Scientology sounds like the right religion for you. You seem easily impressed by celebrities and would appreciate the starpower that religion has to offer you. Hail Thetan!
And David, Erik, George, "Ishkur" and the others. I know what you're thinking. I know the lies you have been saying about me.
I am not "throwing a tantrum". You can't have the whole Internet deleted, can you?
And, finally, I am more than one person. This is not a bluff.
If they were true to their threats, they'd have the undead vampire gods after you, tormenting you night and day, wouldn't they? But you are still seemingly alive and well. All their spooky talk, and nothing happens when you speak against them. Nothing happens at all, because it's all just a hoax. One big, giant, repulsive, soul-sucking, and humiliating lie.
What they say about you only holds meaning to the (minority) groups you have left, a very tiny and irrelevant fragment of society. In the great scheme of things, what they think doesn't mean anything; It has no impact on the real world. So you got rejected by a group of outcasts. LOL that's no big loss.
I am quite sure Anne Rice's fictional vampires have had more of an impact on society than the TOV ever will.
They've already lost the battle, as they do every time another member walks away in disgust, once they find out what it's really all about.
The cherry on the cake for Gilmore was apparently this:
http://www.vampiretemple.com//vtest1.html
read it all the way through to the last link provided.
A couple hundred or so?
what have they produced?
any notable books or other media by ToV members?
Why would somebody do that.....I just don't get it!
"I know someone who recently spoke to Gilmore about the whole "CoS & ToV Relationship" and Gilmore is getting fed up with it."
I heard something of the likes..
They both use magic, whats the problem?
I don see an incompatibly issue
live and let live
ROLF
WTF does that mean?
It IS a rip off and I feel for anyone dragged into all this enough to part with their hard earned cash.
There are NO such things as undead that we know of - prove yourself as undead to me if you really are. If you can't, then I rest my case.
You'd have to be involved in COS prior to the vampire takeover to understand.
I want to live forever!
ten bucks a month is cheap!
http://i52.tinypic.com/2zfv2g5.png
It seems like the "Order of Prometheus" are being kept busy.
Imbeciles, this is the Interenet. You can't expect the pictures to stay offline. They will always keep appearing here and there.
Yes this is the internet, but what "LuWank" and others are doing is illegal. You're reproducing imagery of people in real life and assigning values and organizational membership to those people without their consent.
I find it amusing that the joke of a "Wikia" page on the ToV was also deleted.
Yes I have concerns about the ToV like most people here but when idiots are using illegal and unreferenced means to get their messages across... that's when I, and other intelligent people draw the line. What the fuck was with the person that said "ToV is a scientology cult" on Wikipedia and used the REFERENCE to the vampiretemple.wikia page that provides hear say and bias baby-crying. Fucking "LuWank" again. You're a joke dude, fuck off and die.
Get a fucking life people.
They (TOV and others) are getting exactly what they deserve, by whatever means. It's about time.
I know I've conversed with Nemo himself here once or twice and never did such language cross our paths.
Hail Satan!
The ToV is not compatible with the CoS, Rojo the Rooster took his banner down....why can't you! Good job Warlock Cock!
Also, to the person who said they were a "second degree" Wa
rlock.....Is that anything like a "second degree" black-belt?
Does anyone know any high ranking CoS members that are against the ToV?
Some have posted here, if you read carefully from the begining you might be able to figure it out.
Some are mentioned plain as day.
Hail Satan
I wonder when George will turn up again.
Some idiot "vampire" made this saying: "My future 'Great minds/philosophers tattoo'". Hahahahahaha.