Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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You are an embarrassment to the Church and are likely causing us to lose tens if not hundreds of new members because of your rants. Magus Gilmore tolerates you so you are lucky for now.
How exactly has he been handled?
As far as I know he's still doing what he can to fuck up the ToV's PR image. And he's doing quite well.
the sudden silence on this message board is DEAFENING!
Rupert is just a Registered Member of the Church of Satan.
That means he is just a dolt who paid $200.00 to get the Red Card to proclaim himself as a Satanist. Anyone with $200 can become a registered member.
Only Active Members are Real Members of the Church of Satan. "
thats not true. Both registered and active members can gain access to the members only section of LTTD. So its pretty much the same thing.
"Rupert is just a Registered Member of the Church of Satan."
Another futile attempt at distraction, you don't have the kind of access that would allow you know that about any CoS member.
You have no idea who I am or what I may be affiliated with, you should be worried.
"That means he is just a dolt who paid $200.00 to get the Red Card to proclaim himself as a Satanist. Anyone with $200 can become a registered member."
Slesk this is a culmination of a stream of anti-CoS ramblings on this forum.
Slesk you are part of these ramblings that you allow to be spoken about the CoS here at MoH.
Slesk I believe that you may have even spoken them.
"Only Active Members are Real Members of the Church of Satan."
This is 100% mis-information, this is a false statement, this can easily be disproved by reading HP Gilmore's The Satanic Scriptures (at the very least).
"So while Rupert can slander the TOV, be well aware is just a wannabe who paid $200 to be only a Registered COS member, so he knows nothing!"
At it's most basic of levels your words can be proven wrong by reading through the pages of this forum.
Slesk and any other CoS members who fly the ToV logo, be warned, you are accountable for the mis-information stated here about the CoS, in every form.
"Lord of the Flies"
Hail Satan!
This is 100% mis-information, this is a false statement, this can easily be disproved by reading HP Gilmore's The Satanic Scriptures (at the very least)."
Oh RUPERTO,
This is what the CoS says to rake the $$$$ in and the rubes who just want to call themselves Satanists. That is ok as Satanists, we believe in capitalism. The active members with degree are the true CoS members. You are one of the ones on the outside.
Yes, that truth wont be told to the public as the fake Satanists fear the active membership application because they dont want to be xposed.
I feel that the registered members should be kicked off LttD downstairs but for now whatver..
I say this here just to clarify to everyone that YOU are not a degree member, just a registered member.
The active membership of the CoS completely supports the ToV. Thats a fact. Only outsiders who are registered members, which i cant tolerate, create this fake situation between CoS and ToV. But its not true. The CoS and ToV are strong together and will be so!
HS!
HT!
NightWolf
no u do not know who I am
Sorry dude, but according to the Church of Satan website, you're just plain wrong.
http://churchofsatan.com/Pages/Affiliation.html
Quote from website: "In the mid 1970s, it became clear that many members had become obsessed with
Well done, people!
Down with the ToV!
HAIL SATAN!
In terms of LttD we'll say because that is the main medium of which the CoS conducts it's social activities.
There is more than one level of Active Membership, the Priesthood of Mendes and all others. The PoM indeed have a collective understanding about the ToV, that is to "not talk about it" on LttD.
The majority of posts inquiring about the ToV on the LttD boards come under a forum topic called "Questions about the Church of Satan", only members of the Priesthood may respond to questions here.
All other levels (I believe there is only 1) are meaningless on the topic. Adding to that point,in other forums where the ToV has been mentioned and anyone other than Moderators try to silence individuals, you will be repremanded for "civilian policing".
So Warlock, your "Active Membership" Posse may have more glass ceilings then you have hit your head on yet.
"Yes, that truth wont be told to the public as the fake Satanists fear the active membership application because they dont want to be xposed."
Do you understand the benefits of Lesser Magic? I know for a fact that meshing with the Herd and manuvering through society with a Satanic advantage is a force to be reckoned with.
Active Membership or not, it's not in my best interest to walk around with a CoS hat and shirt on, why would I or anybody else do that?
I guess in your case, you haven't grasped the concept....your pathetic rant about shows that you are really just a follower with no identity looking for acceptance.
As you may have bought your way into your pipedream mystical circle, the PoM won't be that easy. It's obvious that the power you crave isn't available within the CoS, so you have taken it elsewhere......the ToV.
For the record and all reading this, I am a fly on the Walls. The statements about me being a registered member and not an active member are pure speculation.
Mr.Sand I would be curious to hear your take on Mr.Night Wolf's post, if you care.
This is a lie, go to LttD and search ToV, you will see many active members who openly state that they do not support the ToV.
The Priesthood of Mendes completly supports the notion that the ToV will not be "discussed" on the LttD forums.
Unfortunatly we have to use LttD as a representation of the CoS in this instance because quite frankly without LttD/CoS, there would be no ToV.
If your world and life exists only to be a figurehead on an Internet Forum(s) than so be it, your application of Satanic Philosophy (if applicable) is purely Artificial.
By the way, your attempt at Profiling failed. I'll give you credit though for "shooting from the hip".
Hail Satan!
Sorry, Dingus. The Vampire Sites thread has a long way to go before it overtakes LifeWave.
yes, the war of words here is over and those who do desire to Live Forever are victorious. I too will comply and abandon this place.
But Truth be Told, those who CoS members who have found the Sacred Flame within their hearts and have validated the reality of the Undead Gods and the Vampiric Condition, are the affluent amongst the CoS membership. I will not sugar coat it or white wash the truth. We are the Teachers, the true learned overlords amongst those who answer to the rallying call of Satan. For it could be no other way.
We are Watching.
YOU have no bloody idea who the blazes I am!
I will also abide by the requested silence and will speak no more...although doing so pisses me off!
But MOST of the PRIESTHOOD OF MENDES are ToV MEMBERS. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR SKULL.
The BRIGHTEST and BEST are amongst OUR NUMBER as VAMPIRES.
Magister Lang, Magister Frost, Magister Rex Church
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT THOSE THREE?
NO. YOU DO NOT.
They are just THREE of the best of the best.
THOSE THREE ARE TOV MEMBERS. There are plenty more.
Which REVERENDS are against the TOV? Just a controversial Magister and two priests.
YOU ARE WRONG.
SO this is DIALOGUE is OVER.
YOU HAVE LOST
WE HAVE WON
HAIL TIAMAT!
HAIL SATAN!
Re-read my above posting. YOU are the very type of member the CoS doesn't want.
As for the name dropping; Pathetic. The people you mentioned are no doubt being compensated to promote the ToV. You really think any of them are dumb enough to actually believe in that shit?
Now, back to your ass kissing; Simon says stop posting here in this board, so you'd better go do what Simon says. You wouldn't want to lose your precious, little title. You've already broken Temple Law, after all.
Overlords???? Really????
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
I am watching too, and laughing my ass off. You have no idea.
Hail the Vampire Hidden Heroes!
Hail Tiamat!
To the valiant Vampire Hidden Heroes, you did break Temple Law. But you did it for the right reason. Now you are disbanded and would do best to keep this victory silent.
Some victories are best savored when they are kept secret even from our peers, teachers, and superiors.
All accomplished by precise application of the Laws.
Congratulations.
Acknowledged.
Now return to your personal pursuits.
HK
<O>
Not a Satanist?
My laminated Red Card proclaming my Citizenship in the Infernal Empire and the beautiful certificate proudly displayed in my bedroom declaring me to be a Warlock seem to strongly suggest otherwise.
Farewell for now.
Hail Tiamat!
Hail Satan!
I personally know Magister Rex Church. He is one of the toughest people I know. He is an outstanding, bright, individual. And no - he is not supportive of the Temple of the Vampire, but he is, however, being compensated for advertising it and was given a paper title as an "adept".
I feel sorry for the poor kid. He'll be raised in a "vampire" family. His father is sure to indoctrinate him and introduce him to Smith's plastic fangers club at some point in his life.
It's such a pity...
I'm not a temple of the vampire or church of satan member. I read this board for the laughs. I have considered joining the church but look at this. You write that Magister Rex is just fooling church members to think he is a vampire and gets paid to do this. so he is purposely and consciously attempting to trick church members into joining the temple?
what an unethical creep if this were true, not to mention that now the distinction between registered and active member is now in my head. both groups seem to be just about the buck.
sad. y would I want to join a group where the top members of the clergy get paid to trick members to join another group they are really philosophically against...this dont smell right
thanks to museum of hoaxes for helping me see the truth of both the temples of vampires and church of satan scams.
That's real sad when people project their freakiness on thier kids.
some people should not have kids
Yes. It is true that both the modern Gilmore-led Church of Satan and the Temple of the Vampire are both just about the buck.
While you can align yourself with Satanism without joining the CoS, I would suggest you stay away from the ToV.
This board reminds me of ol trusty alt.satanism.
Remember alt.satanism..remember filan, Schelsinger, Lupon, Tani, Jesus of BORG, scratch andd all the rest!
I'm sure Magister Lang is somewhere practicing for the Iditarod, Magister Church in a Warehouse somewhere building some kind of Demon conjuring time warp structure and Magister Frost for Pete's sake would run the Servers for the FLDS is they paid him enough money!
Point being, not one of these CoS Members who subsequently fly ToV banners actively participate on the Lifeforce Forums. You won't find them eagerly awaiting the new initiate, hoping to frighten them into compliance with the "Undead Gods".
The reason that these Satanist specifically won't participate in your Lifeforce forums is because they don't give a care less about your "Vampiric Condition" or your lifestyle advice.
They have already mastered the one self-help guide available to everybody, free of Multi-level marketing sales pressure and gimmickey cult ramblings..........The Satanic Bible.
Magister Lang and Magister Church are Satanists first and foremost before anything else, as proven time and time again.
Am I disappointed in their eagerness to make a buck and fly the ToV banners? Yes, but I don't think that when they initially made the decision to do this the ToV had escalated to the level of deception that encompasses it's present "Spiritual Pipedream-esq" nature.
They will eventually get to this forum, if this doesn't help sway their opinions on the ToV, maybe $$$$ will!?!?
We did discuss the possibility of CoS being paid to promote the ToV earlier in the blog. We also discussed the possibility of the temple being a way to weed out the drones and rank junkies.
I am amused, though. Seems like some people put their status and rank before anything else, spilling beans everywhere, be they real or just imaginative. So hard up on defending their percieved importance are they, that they ignore the gag order, and continue giving us more and more to work with.
It is an interesting mindset - "Status and commitment through investment and giving away control". I rememmber somewhere else, where you could buy absolution and salvation.
The fees and payments to be part of the temple of the vampire was said to keep the casually interested away, making sure applicants were serious and committed. While that may be true, it also had another function (apart from lining certain people's pockets). It lets only those in, who harbour a strong wish for immortality, empowerment, being part of something bigger, etc. This strong wish is in the end essential to the temple. It makes people more susceptible to manipulation, to ideas otherwise too farfetched, to brainwashing. It is no wonder temple members seem so gullible.
I have matters to attend to, but I advise people to reread the posts here, check links and go through the material supplied by Lu Yang. Analyze everything. Wording. Phrase choices. Sentence structuring. Peculiarities and errors. Keep in mind that all who supplied this information has their agendas and take that into your consideration.
"Truth be told,
yes, the war of words here is over and those who do desire to Live Forever are victorious."
Nice Bush impression. However, the war never ended. New ammo just arrived.
Now that TOV people are no longer going to respond to any posts and their greatest critic has been silenced, how much longer can this board continue?
WORD TO YOUR MUTHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree that this title obsession seems to be the latests "fad" in the CoS with some.
This is what Anton Szandor Lavey referred to as the "moose lodge syndrome". Lol!
I also suggest reading "Satan Wants You: The Cult of Devil Worship in America" by Arthur Lyons. Furthermore, you will discover the similarities between the ToV and the Tos after reading this book.
P.s. I miss the 70's.
I'll be keeping an eye on this thread, and probably participate.
That is exactly why this is here - I am happy that you finally feel normal again.
I wss never in the ToV but i did suffer similar "abuse" with a christian cult. Like you I was pretty damaged at the end of it and contemplated suicide as the big exit from my fears.
Its worth mentioning that George Smith/lucas Martell/Nemo claims to be a Certified Mental Health Counselor with 25 years experience.
yeah in messing with people heads instead of helping them. He is like a doctor who kills instead of heals.
Any ideas?
But it sounds like they are not allowed to post here anymore.
I miss drinking a cup of joe in the morning and reading the latest from valeria sythewind, magnus nacht, ADEPT, and the other fruits.
😊
Mabe if we are nice, they will return!
I came across this last night as well: http://www.youtube.com/user/DingusKak#p/a/u/0/s_-HoQYuP4I
Not much of a revelation, but amusing anyways. Museum of Hoaxes even gets mentioned in the George Smith video. We're famous now. 😊
Grow up.
I like the 'such is the power of the undead gods' bit :lol: I did not know that was really him!
I see they have been replaced with a one liner, 'do you want to live forever.'
Guess they are pushing the plastic fangers out!
What does a CoS member get out joining the ToV?
Is there a special decoder ring you get for joining, I don't know.
<i>I am a member of the Temple of the Vampire. This is also a well-established international organisation with a focus on Transhumanist development and the pursuit of physical immortality. For those afraid of scary things like the V-word, I point you to the ToV