Vampire Sites

Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book, The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.

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Posted on Wed Oct 29, 2003



Comments

Well there you have it!

Lu Yang spoke against the Temple,
the Temple members got together and did a Greater Magic Destruction Satanic Ritual on Lu Yang,
Lu Yang suddenly gets her buttons pushed
acts silly and reveals herself to the world!

ROLF! She turned out to be a he!

I guess it's best not talk bad about people who wield the power of magic. What happened to Lu Yang can happen to anyone!
Posted by Laughter  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:16 AM
So what you're saying is that some idiot performed a stupid "ritual" in order to harm me? Hahaha. Don't make me laugh.

And nobody pushed any "buttons".

I chose to reveal my identity in private to a few of the people here in private first. Now I don't care if people know of the other alias I used. I still remain anonymous.

And no, there's no such thing as the "power of magic". It's like being afraid of the wind, really.
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:19 AM
Laughter,

I'm sure it had nothing to do with any magic. Just philosophical differences and a few personal grudges. I don't think Lu is deliberately lying and that he believes what he says. However, I do suspect it's way off base and exaggerated.
Posted by Anon  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:19 AM
Anyway, none of this changes the fact that the ToV is a scam.

There is no need to show any evidence to "prove" it. Any sane person could see through their bullshit.

Like I said, the damage has already been done.

By the way, Private, for some reason I am unable to contact you by email. Drop me a line, please.
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:21 AM
Anon,

Where would you say that I exaggerated? Point it out and I find that I did in fact exaggerate I will admit it.
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:22 AM
"I still remain anonymous."

Thank the ToV, because some members including administration have your real identity on hand yet choose not to reveal it.
Posted by Anon  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:22 AM
"Where would you say that I exaggerated? Point it out and I find that I did in fact exaggerate I will admit it.p

Start with the scam bit. Those without an agenda who read Wakaka's page wouldn't conclude that there is an intentional, money-making scheme being crafted. Even read Nemo's responses to your resignation. It isn't at all personal or negative as cults/scams usually operate toward ex-members.
Posted by Anon  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:26 AM
Also I'd love to see any death threats or harrassment due to your resignation. Most cults do that. I haven't heard you mention that aspect of your break-away experience with the ToV.
Posted by Anon  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:28 AM
"The damage has already been done. "

Not anymore than a child throwing tantrums in a household will cause the building to collapse.
Posted by Anon  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:31 AM
If the ToV's claims were in fact true (they are not) then my claim that it is a scam would be an exaggeration.

I am sure you are aware of the ToV's claims (Lifeforce, Undead Gods who rule the world behind the scenes, OBE's, immortality, Final Harvest, magic, etc). These claims are similar to those of many religious traditions, and like I said before, any intelligent person with common sense (including Satanists) would dismiss them as bullshit.

Any organisation selling immortality and power over others by the means as questionable as those of George Smith is, by definition, a scam.

scam:
n.
A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.
tr.v. scammed, scam
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:32 AM
Smith is selling a product designed to grant its consumer immortality.

And we know that hyperventilating into a mirror and imagining that the "undead" gods exist won't make you into an immortal.

So Smith's product fails to deliver.

That, Anon, is a scam.
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:33 AM
Also, I don't know if you know, but Smith has tried his hand at several other swindles.

Are you at all familiar with his self-help/self-improvement business?

He ran it from home for a few years in the mid-90's. Transcendental meditation, "The Anger Cure", stock market predictions, psychic readings, et cetera.

Scams seem to be his business.
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:36 AM
Not a match with the definitions. Like Lingua mentioned you can also call Freemasonry a "scam" by your criterion. Buddhism can be a scam: the Dalai Lama can't possible believe in a spiritual world of boddhisatvas and deities since the world is only matter. Philosophical differences from your viewpoint don't constitute a scam in an objective sense (but perhaps a scam to you, personally).
Posted by Anon  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:37 AM
He was forced to close down his self-help business after some customers demanded their money back, feeling they'd been swindled.

Also, for a while he was the treasurer of an Aikido dojo. He was forced to step down from this position as he managed to enrich himself by didgy means with some of the treasury money. The dojo was registered as a charity.
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:38 AM
Yea, people have lives outside the ToV too.
Posted by Anon  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:42 AM
And you can't possibly know the details of these events unless you were on the inside managerial department of that dojo. More exaggerations...unless you are a mind reader.
Posted by Anon  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:44 AM
Lu Yang,

I'm not a Temple member.
I don't know if you realize it or not, the new threads you have available simply point out that

The Temple is not a hoax
The Temple is not a scam.
The Temple members do believe in what they are doing and are being most sincere.

What does seem to be true is,

you have been destabilized emotionally by all this. Today was your 'melt-down' day.
I think you purposely planned this series of outcomes in order to find closure with those you once considered close friends and associates. Perhaps you subconsciously desire to return to the Temple and this is your first step in making amends.
And in regards to your scam criteria,
in that case, every religion in the planet is a scam! So you can be either an atheist or a scammer!

Now......who is RUPERT?
we need to do that ol' black magic on RUPERT and find out who he/she is!
Posted by ByeByeLUYANG!  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:46 AM
There are things in the world that are self-evident.

The non-existence of a spiritual world, being one of them.

They aren't philosophical differences. I am just stating a fact of reality.

---------------------------------------------------

Oh, but I did contact the management department of the dojo and I ran a check up on Smith's activities. So I know that what I said about him is true.
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:47 AM
"The Temple is not a hoax
The Temple is not a scam.
The Temple members do believe in what they are doing and are being most sincere."

Well, at least it is a fact that what they believe in are all lies. Whether it's a scam or not.

And no, I don't plan to make amends with any of these people. Why would I? I detest them.

Yes, every religion in the world, while not necessarily a scam, is a lie.
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:50 AM
Anyway, I do hope you take this fall-out into a more posiive direction in your life rather than into unproductive obsession. With all your talk of Satanism and individuality, it seems you are all the more willing to sacrifice your time and efforts for the good of the wider mass population.
Posted by Anon  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  11:55 AM
Thanks, Anon.
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  02:35 PM
/END THREAD
Posted by Fin  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  04:32 PM
Hah why do I have the suspicion "!jill" is Gabriel's asian gf/wife? What an odd couple.
Posted by Anon  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  06:01 PM
How does a Colombian Italian Guitar Hero Reject end up in CHINA??????????????????? You a commie?
Posted by HEYGABE  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  06:05 PM
Yo Gabriel,

I heard they used to call you "the ewok" back in high school, why is that so?
Posted by Theodrucus  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  07:51 PM
so finally they give up on the 'lets stop the hate' stuff and start high school nicknames and 'hey gabe ur a commie' like a bunch of playground bullies. Lu Yang made you look bad, vampires, but you made yourselves look SO MUCH WORSE. pathetic
Posted by Marzipan Delight  on  Thu Nov 18, 2010  at  09:13 PM
Doesn't bother me much. I understand your anger towards me. I did make you look bad - precisely because I, an intelligent person, decided to step out of the ToV fold and confirm what had already been said here before I came along.

"Colombian Italian Guitar Hero Reject"?

Now, now, no need to start being childish and call each other names, is there? I live in China because I like it here, the life is good, and beef is cheap.

And no, !Jill isn't my girlfriend or wife. Silly child. 😊

And no, Theoducrus, nobody called me "the ewok" in school. They called me "four eyes", actually. I wore glasses all my life until recently (Thank the Undead fod laser surgery!)
Posted by LuYang  on  Fri Nov 19, 2010  at  02:01 AM
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It is interesting listening to the recent ignorant sounding pro-ToV trolls and, especially, the recent mind reading troll who projects their presumptions (straw men) onto you.
Posted by Private  on  Fri Nov 19, 2010  at  07:30 PM
Private,

/end thread

DIDN'T YOU GET THE MEMO?
Posted by It's Over Now..  on  Fri Nov 19, 2010  at  08:18 PM
Thans, Private. Check your inbox please.
Posted by LuYang  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  02:29 AM
Mr It's Over Now,

No. Nobody got the memo. You must be in the wrong thread.

And for the record, much more is going on outside of this forum than you know.
Posted by LuYang  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  03:06 AM
Does anyone have any updates on the whole "Gilmore getting annoyed" with the TOV stuff? Or anyone else in the Hierarchy (Oops I'm Typing Like A Tov Member Now Them, We, Because, Them, We ArE WatCHing).

Any updates on that?

I just now took a gander at the LTTD forums and don't see anywhere near the amount of the stupid TOV banners but that might not mean anything.

TS
Posted by TwilightSucks  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  07:30 AM
No. I have heard the rumour but never found any reliable sources on this. Anyone?

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Posted by LuYang  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  08:19 AM
"And for the record, much more is going on outside of this forum than you know."

Lu Yang most of the membership resides in the lower Circles and cannot read the specific forum you may have quoted from recently.
FYI many First and Second Circle members who compromise the majority of the TOV are following this board.
Please inform us as to what is 'going on outside'
The Priestood of Ur is mum on all this, as usual.
Posted by confusedPredator  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  09:39 AM
And that is the reason why these posts were posted publicly. For everyone, including people in the lower "circles" of the ToV to read and understand how the OoP operates.

And do you mean the "priesthood or Ur" is "mum"?
Posted by LuYang  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  10:16 AM
http://i53.tinypic.com/2cy5wmt.jpg

Here we have Aubrey De Grey, David Styles, and motherkiller Saul Kent behind him.

Styles doesn't look too healthy. It must be that dreadful caloric restriction he practices...or an unclean conscience!
Posted by Wakaka  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  10:34 AM
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=uSU_lRUAAABURivfS5DcxJOrZy9YEbz7DwQ22TA-NuZYSG5IG9SZ-Q

George Smith's non-CoS/ToV profile in Usenet.

I will also be posting a mirror of his old self-help website home page on my website.
Posted by LuYang  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  02:11 PM
https://sites.google.com/site/plasticfangersamongus/home/tov_thread2
Posted by LuYang  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  02:18 PM
Ladies and gentlemen,

This will be my very last post here. I have disseminated enough information to constitute a significant effort to help get the anti-ToV ball rolling.

Any further efforts to help this "cause" will continue in private correspondence with the others.

Members of the "Order of Prometheus" and the ToV administration: I know a lot more than you think. I have access to a lot more than you think you can hide from me. Fear is my friend.

Styles: The media isn't your friend. This is all I will say to you. Thank you for having trusted me.

True Satanists: In your hearts you know the ToV is bullshit. It's no different from the ToS. You do not speak your minds in that place for fear that you might be ostracised. But now is the time to speak - a few Outstanding Individuals have done so. You know who you are. Speak!

Good night.
Posted by LuYang  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  03:28 PM
/terminare thread

SO IT IS DONE!
HT!
HS!
Posted by Annukai  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  05:33 PM
"/terminare thread

SO IT IS DONE!
HT!
HS!"

You assume too much.
Posted by Sand  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  05:46 PM
does anyone really think wandering in and saying 'its over' actually ends it? who is this dumbass, boyd rice?
Posted by morons  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  05:49 PM
"does anyone really think wandering in and saying 'its over' actually ends it? who is this dumbass, boyd rice?"

Lu Yang has been shown the error of his thinking and he is now gone from this board.
That is what happens when one breaks an Oath.
I wish Lu Yang much success in his rehabilitation.
Who is left?
Sand, Rupert, and Jill?
You three can just play in the sandbox with any silly COS "registered members" that which to join you.
While it is not my place to say, those of us who Know only consider Active members of the Church of Satan to be True Satanists. So Rupert and his drinking buddies are nobodys.
You do not understand what is beyond your capacity.
You are three outsiders looking into a dark glass.
You are not of us. You never were. You never will be.
Posted by Annukai  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  06:20 PM
c'mon, let's get this fucker up to a 100
Posted by Satan  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  06:28 PM
"While it is not my place to say, those of us who Know only consider Active members of the Church of Satan to be True Satanists. So Rupert and his drinking buddies are nobodys."

That is probably one of the stupidest things written on this Forum.

I believe the ToV's affiliation with the CoS should be dissolved, to your dismay while it is in tact, I, in more than one way I am your Master.

Figure that one out....

Do you really want to know who I am....I don't think you do, because in the whole scheme of things, I am your Master.

Your Sycophantic ramblings are shallow and lack susbstance.

Please dig deep and figure out who I am, if you ever were to find out, there is nothing you can do about it anyway, you will probably be smacked back into the Herd where you belong.

"Lord of the Flies"
Hail Satan!
Posted by Rupert  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  10:15 PM
Slesk....Why do you allow these menial cronies to represent you here?
Posted by Rupert  on  Sat Nov 20, 2010  at  10:30 PM
Slesk,

You overweight, penniless loser - you always were that.

You come here defending your ToV. So you are a Master of the ToV. A Master of WHAT?
Posted by Hahaha  on  Sun Nov 21, 2010  at  02:04 AM
Never trust a proven liar.

Such as Lu Yang.
Posted by Amused  on  Sun Nov 21, 2010  at  07:02 AM
For those who do not yet know who Rupert it,

Rupert is not an Active Member of the Church of Satan.
Rupert is just a Registered Member of the Church of Satan.
That means he is just a dolt who paid $200.00 to get the Red Card to proclaim himself as a Satanist. Anyone with $200 can become a registered member.
Only Active Members are Real Members of the Church of Satan.
So while Rupert can slander the TOV, be well aware is just a wannabe who paid $200 to be only a Registered COS member, so he knows nothing!
Just clearing the muck for any newbies...,
Posted by Wisdom  on  Sun Nov 21, 2010  at  03:12 PM
excerpt from privately circulated email

"Gabriel has been handled. Now we just have Ropert. I have thought of a couple of appropriate methods with which we can approach this matter without having to draw more attention than necessary. Please consider that he has never been affiliated with us on any level. His grudge is personal and thus superficial. Does anyone have any worthwhile thoughts or suggestions?"
Posted by mi5  on  Sun Nov 21, 2010  at  03:44 PM
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