MOH Forum: LifeWave Energy Patches

LifeWave Energy Patches

Posted By:
Fawkes
Feb 24, 2005

Now you can get more energy from a patch! I especially like the way that
they "believe" that it works. It is also based on years of research from
many fields. While the research may be valid, I'm not sure that their
results were intended to be used with a "patent pending blend of water,
oxygen, amino acids and organics applied to a polyester fabric and sealed
within a polymer shell".

http://www.contactplus.com/lifewave.htm

We can finally have our super-soldiers now!

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EDHUK Member	Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 \| 02:29 PM Coach Richard Quick Memorial As you know, Coach Quick died from inoperable brain cancer a few days ago. There is to be a memorial service tomorrow is Austin Texas. http://www.texassports.com/sports/w-swim/spec-rel/061509aab.html We have read David Schmidt's comments about Coach Quick and his involvement with the LifeWave "family". http://lifewavetraining.com/news/?p=229#more-229 "It is with great personal sadness that we must announce to you the passing of our business colleague, avid LifeWave fan, and good friend, Coach Richard Quick." It will come as no surprise, then, that Schmidt, and other LifeWave management will attend the memorial service to pay their respects. Especially as Coach Quick did so much for the bottom line of the LifeWave company: "During LifeWave
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 \| 04:30 PM What a pity. Looks like Schmidt was otherwise engaged and unable to make it to the memorial service. Meanwhile, we await the much anticipated PBS program that has Schmidt salivating over the increase in sales he anticipates as a result of the airing. Problem is there are no details of where this program will be airing, which is a little odd. However, this link might just shed some light on the project and the main players. http://www.naturopathic.org/files/About_Us/Newsroom/AANP - PBS Documentary Overview.pdf "The six part series will air over 13 weeks in half hour episodes, with reruns under the Banner of
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 \| 05:22 PM A little insight into where the money to make the PBS program came from: http://www.calnd.org/newsletter_detail.asp?NewsID=68 $
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 \| 05:32 PM Mr Perez will teach you how to make programs just like Schmidt's! http://www.collegeofthedesert.edu/students/ss/ap/workexperience/Documents/MicrosoftPowerPoint - Radio and Television [Compatibility Mode].pdf Slide 11/11 *
Razela in Chicago, IL Member	Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 \| 05:33 PM I'm extremely skeptical about the supposed PBS show. It sounds more like they are doing a infomercial, rather than an actual show.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 \| 05:36 PM Ooops Looks like the link didn't want to work. Here's the slide in text form: Do you want to learn how to PRODUCE A TELEVISION SHOW?
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 \| 05:43 PM Razela, I think David Schmidt has been purposefully vague about the airing of this program on PBS. He has given the impression that it would be part of one of the "big boy" programs like "NOVA". I think the link above leads us to the actual program: http://www.thedoctorshow.com The list of stations that air the program in included. Throws a slightly different light on it. Enjoy everyone. *
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 \| 05:56 PM http://www.thedoctorshow.com Click on "About Us" Hello... there's the PBS producer Roland Perez: "President and Founder of Windsor Productions." "The production company was founded in March of 1976 and has continuously provided its clients with the best in award winning television production." "Each 30-minute show features 6 segments with a diverse range of specialists discussing a full spectrum of medical topics." Mmmmm So, now we get the picture. LifeWave will be featured for approximately 5 minutes on a half hour show made by a man who owns the company making the program. Are we to dare to believe that Schmidt paid to be "featured". No, that would be unkind as well as, dare I say it, unethical. *
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 \| 09:20 PM http://www.patched4life.com/How_LifeWave_Works.htm Page under construction
EDHUK Member	Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 \| 05:39 PM Joel, Re: Coach Richard Quick and his involvement with LifeWave. "That's the part I never did figure out in this scam - how Richard Quick could get so caught up in it, and for so long." This link gives us a clue: http://obits.al.com/Statesman/Obituaries.asp?Page=Notice&PersonID=128314664 "Quick also established himself as a innovator." "He didn't let an infomercial go by without trying it," Sterkel said, laughing. "He was always looking for the next cutting-edge thing, even if it was kind of crazy." Or as Reese put it: "He didn't mind going outside of the box, whether it was the mind or body." I believe this forum thread has a comment somewhere way back where it was mentioned that Coach Quick had his swimmers put on the patches to spook the opposition. Seems highly plausible. Having used the wacky patches and then word gotten back to David Schmidt, who can blame him for accepting the offer of a management position with LifeWave. Other people in sport make money, why not Coach Quick. In terms of benefit, Coach Quick definitely got the short end of the stick. Coach Quick's name and integrity was worth a great deal to David Schmidt and LifeWave. The same cannot be said about the value of LifeWave to Richard Quick. Still, as we have commented before, it is a shame that his name will be forever linked with a SCAM and the low class CON-MAN and LIER David Schmidt. #
EDHUK Member	Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 \| 05:56 PM 5 years ago: http://secure.lifewave.com/news/pdf/mag_AtlantaJournal.pdf Enjoy! #
EDHUK Member	Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 \| 08:10 PM Schmidt is soooo old school. Stand aside LifeWave, there's a new boy on the block: http://www.innersoultechnologies.com/quantum-wellness-patch.html Yep, they are on Ebay and apparently people are buying them in droves. "Better than LifeWave Patches" is the claim. "The Quantum Wellness Patches are designed to bring both hemispheres of your brain into a greater state of balance, to the highest level that your subconscious will let you do so." Oooh, so much more exciting than LifeWave patches that work by: Sending signals to your body like a cell phone... No, act like needle-less acupuncture... No, act by a novel cooling effect... No, act by a novel heating and cooling effect... No, act by acupressure... No, act by harnessing the power of light... Wait....act by, er....what's the word? Enjoy!
EDHUK Member	Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 \| 08:22 PM "The vial will send out a special energy signal to your bath water or drinking liquid that will automatically change the atomic and molecular structure of your water, essentially delivering the energy equivalent of these 47 Organic Nuts, Grains and Beans, 52 Vegetables, 38 Organic Fruits and 13 Natural Fruits into your body." http://www.innersoultechnologies.com/water-all-in-one.html Can you say...nuts! Come back Schmidt the SCAM MAN. All is forgiven. $
hcmomof4 in So. Cal. Member	Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 \| 10:31 PM That makes me very sad....
jayessell	Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 \| 05:42 AM Thanks for the link EDHUK. They also sell patches for your car! http://www.innersoultechnologies.com/quantum-magnets.html I'd like to think that we live in a more skeptical age than we did 5 years ago when people bought SmogBuster Disks and glued them to their fuel tank. We can thank Nigeria for that. PS: They also sell BrainWave Protectors! http://www.innersoultechnologies.com/brain-wave-protector.html $25? Wouldn't THIS work just as well, and for pennies? http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 \| 04:23 PM jayessell, I know this thread is about the LifeWave SCAM patches and the CON-MAN and consummate LIER, David (not a doctor or a scientist) Schmidt, but once in a while it's interesting to see how similar other SCAMS are. Plenty of bold statements that fall apart after even a cursory look on the net. The usual, don't knock it if you haven't tried it rhetoric. The obligatory need to have an open mind (and check book). It's all so easy to rip people off, and as Bob at WWSN has pointed out many times over the years, few people are bothered by this. Not the FDA, or investigative programs on TV. Journalists of all ilk seem to turn a blind eye. Fascinating and pitiful. $
Joel Member	Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 \| 06:18 PM EDHUK, that's way cool, and way funny. <i><b>How does the Quantum Wellness Patch Work?</b> The effects of this typically take place within 3 minutes to 48 hours, when this happens, all of your organs, hormones and endocrine system seem to work together more harmoniously giving your body a whole new bio-rhythm, and restore energy levels to the point to which they were when you were a young child, whilst opening your mind up to greater levels of well being, greater imagination and problem solving skills, increased physical strength, more focus, stamina, more calm, clarity, purpose, motivation, generally more positive, almost like a tune up, and many other amazing effects have been reported. Note: You may experience a slight head pressure, un-easy or ill feeling for the first 2 - 10 hours, this is due to your body, mind and emotions re-aligning and adjusting to a new bio-rhythm. Quantum Wellness Patches, which are designed to be worn on the human body. Nothing is actually entering the body from the patches. Communication is transmitted directly to the cells of your body using our exclusive "Quantum Nano Technology" without anything intrusively entering your body in anyway.</i> The website is complete with testimonials by people identified only as "Deb K" and the like, and with a 30-day money back guarantee. Sounds almost exactly like LifeWave. I guess it was only a matter of time before people like Warren Hanchey (http://www.8ight.com/) and now others copied "Dr." Schmidt's scam almost to the letter. "Dr." David Schmidt said in his patent application that his nanotechnology patches use ingredients like Grandma Molasses and Sioux Honey as the organic nanoantennas. What do you suppose the Quantum Nano Technology Wellness Patches use as their organic nano-antennas? Best Foods Mayonnaise and Pure Wesson Oil? Bud Light and Heinz 57? Grey Poupon Mustard and WD40? And will Suzanne Sommers feature the Quantum Nano Technology Wellness Patches in her next book? Or will she tear open the patches and extract the secret wellness sauce inside, and inject it into her privates to give them new bio-rhythms and greater harmony? With products such as these, there can be a fine line between participation and mockery, no?
Joel Member	Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 \| 07:42 PM THE SPIRITUAL HEALING GUY BEHIND THE INNER SOUL TECHNOLOGIES QUANTUM WELLNESS PATCH IS A CONVICTED CRIMINAL. Oh dear. The guy behind this LifeWave-like non-transdermal nanotechnology energy patch product is Ren
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 \| 07:55 PM Joel, Suzanne Summers and a syringe of Grey Poupon. Now there's an image. When I read the site, http://www.innersoultechnologies.com/quantum-wellness-patch.html I did wonder for a minute or so if someone (like one of us) had put up the website as a huge joke. Then I realized it's real. The site is actually very close to our friend Karma Sing's crazy products. I still can't get rid of the image of drinking a glass of water that has retained the "memory" of everything it has come into contact with. Gross! !
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 \| 08:23 PM Joel, Even though this is still not LifeWave, it's interesting to see Rene in action in 2006. http://www.powerofsoul.org/ Same website design (centered text) as the new company web site and same telephone number. Yep, he's also a con-man. Next! !
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 \| 08:35 PM http://www.bodysoulspiritexpo.com/expo/lectures.php3?city=28 A picture of the new scam artist. "Rene has learned how to essentially program certain quantum energy sequences into a small patch that can be worn on the human body." Well, that was easy! "Born highly sensitive to energies he has been able to fine tune his clairvoyant abilities and spiritual connection with the God Mind and his higher self." Enjoy #
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 \| 09:52 PM Joel "I assume that this is the same Rene Luther Hamilton in Canada. If not, please set the record straight, Mr. Hamilton, and accept my apologies." He was 26 in 2005 when an appeal judge stated:
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 \| 10:17 PM BTW I mentioned the "new" patches were being sold on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Quantum-Energy-Patches-better-than-lifewave-patches_W0QQitemZ120439452853QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c0ac034b5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65:12\|66:2\|39:1\|72:1205\|240:1318\|301:0\|293:1\|294:50 "Quantum Energy Patches" better than lifewave patches 4X GREATER ENERGY INSTANTLY! + FREE BRAIN WAVE PATCH! Mmmm Seller: posoul22( 66) Feedback: 100 % Positive Member: since Mar-22-03 in Canada "posoul" Familiar? "I am not the creator of any art or writings of which I do. For all of creation is already completed. I am merely manifesting that which already is. Production of the work shop, book and screen play "Instruction manual for the human mind" is underway. You wont believe what you are about to see. Let the deepness flow. Posoul" http://www.powerofsoul.org/bio/ Mmmmm $$
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 \| 09:56 AM I have started a new thread for Rene Luther Hamilton and his Quantum Wellness Patches etc. I hope he'll be well pleased! http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forums/viewthread/9938/ Dave
Joel Member	Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 \| 08:28 PM With apologies to EDHUK and the new thread, here's one more insight into the creator of the "better than Lifewave" patch scam: <i>Some writings on this site will appear to contradict other writings on this site. You may get confused. That is because your mind will most likely be too crowded with meaningless junk, put there or accepted there to confuse you. </i> Rene Luther Hamilton explaining his "quantum psychology" and the fact that if he can't keep the facts or logic behind his ramblings and scams straight, the problem is surely with you, the mark. http://www.powerofsoul.org/quantum/
EDHUK Member	Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 \| 04:19 PM Bernard Madoff was sentenced to 150 years today. Many of the people he SCAMMED said he was such a nice man. They couldn't believe he was taking their money for all those years. Coming across as "nice" "pleasant" "likable" "unassuming" etc. etc. are all requirements for a great sacm artist. Have you met anyone like that lately? Did he get you to buy some patches? People will continue to get scammed for the rest of time. It's human nature. *
EDHUK Member	Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 \| 09:20 PM It's July and at LifeWave SCAM central staffers are preparing for the rush of orders after the TV special is shown. We still don't know where and when in July, but those are minor details, right? Coming soon to a YouTube near you! Ya gotta love it. *
Razela in Chicago, IL Member	Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 \| 12:30 PM By the way, Lifewave's headquarters are in San Diego, are they not? La Jolla, I believe? Is there an address? I'd be interested in going down and maybe taking a few pictures or chatting with the front desk people. Might be interesting.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 \| 06:11 PM Razela, LifeWave SCAM Central is located at: 1020 Prospect Street Suite 200 La Jolla, CA 92037 http://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1C1CHNH_enUS326US327&sourceid=chrome&q=1020+Prospect+Street+Suite+200+La+Jolla,+CA+92037&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=CZxOSsC-C52etwe43tGqBA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1 If you Google the address you will see the building is occupied by 60 businesses most of whom are legit, one can only hope. I wonder if their neighbors have any idea that they have a SCAM company in their midst? ?
Razela in Chicago, IL Member	Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 \| 06:36 PM 1020 Prospect Street? Seriously? I totally worked in that building a couple years ago during a summer internship for an international development agency. It was pre-lifewave though, so I guess I wouldn't have had a chance to run into David Schmidt in the parking garage.
Razela in Chicago, IL Member	Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 \| 06:49 PM Wait, scratch that. I worked at 1200 Prospect Street. Phew, that was a bit weird there for a second. But still, I know that area really well. The rent is crazy expensive. I wonder if they have a view of the Ocean? They must be making bank to afford such a nice office.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 \| 07:49 PM Razela, It's all about appearances. Smoke and Mirrors. That's why Schmidt is so excited about the upcoming TV spot. He will milk it for all it's worth. "As featured on PBS" The appearance of legitimacy. That's why Coach Richard Quick was so valuable to LifeWave. The Google street view shows a view of the ocean. Who knows if their office is at the back of the building facing the ocean. Who cares? *
Joel Member	Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 \| 06:41 PM PBS DISAVOWS ANY PROGRAM FEATURING LIFEWAVE I wrote to PBS and asked whether they were really going to have a segment on Discoveries in Alternative Medicine that constituted a positive report about Lifewave. Their response: <i>Thank you for writing to PBS. DISCOVERIES IN ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE is not a PBS program. Unlike the commercial television networks, which provide their local affiliates with a set program menu, PBS provides its member stations with programs from which they choose and schedule independently. Stations can also select programs from independent distributors. Since all final program scheduling decisions are determined locally by each of our member stations, we suggest you contact your local station. Contact information for your local PBS station is available online at: http://www.pbs.org/stationfinder Thank you again for writing and we hope you continue to enjoy and support your local PBS member station.</i> I'm not sure that their logic, if I follow it ("We give stations a variety programs, and they can pick which ones they want to air, so don't blame us") resolves them of responsibility for a program that reports a scam product such as Lifewave as if it were a real and effective product, but the bottom line is that PBS seems to be saying, "Hey, we're not responsible in any way for Discoveries in Alternative Medicine, so don't blame us if it features scam products." Personally, I now believe the government should quit funding PBS.
Suzi Babbio	Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 \| 08:19 PM I have to totally disagree with all the dissenters on the patches, the products, the statements, etc. You are clueless and demonstrate the far end of the spectrum where paradigm shifts are just too much to absorb. I have personally had great relief, seen relief in others, that I have patched, including my father, used all the patches with great success for the purposes intended, and can say that if someone gets ill, it is because their body needs to detoxify. THAT is evidence of the Y-Age patch working! It detoxifies the body. No symptoms would be felt if they were not toxic, and IF they were not ridding toxins! It would be great if all you naysayers had some real experience and knowledge.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 \| 09:36 PM Suzi Babbio Thank you for your kind words. As usual, for a LifeWaver, you have demonstrated precicely why genuine studies are required of ANY product. Annectdotal information, such as yours, is completely useless. I didn't bother to get real experience of laundry discs and green pills for my fuel tank either. Please expand on the depth of your experience and knowledge giving you the right to SCAM people into buying these worthless patches. *
Suzi Babbio	Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 \| 11:23 PM I have spent over 30 years researching and experiencing many treatments, therapies, modalities, supplements and more. There are documented, scientific studies behind everything that I use or accept for my body or for recommendation to others. To denigrate products that you have not experienced, whatever your views, constitutes gross arrogance and ignorance. To be in 80 countries worldwide, to have received numerous celebrity endorsements, to have earned a coveted PBS documentary airing this month of July '09, and to have thousands of people spending lots of money in a tight economy, simply proves your information and conjecture about LifeWave products to be completely false. Scams do not conduct double=blind, placebo-controlled studies at the cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars. The negative views in this site represent ill gotten and wholly uninformed information, probably by individuals simply looking to have some fun taking adversarial positions. Period.
NBBSS	Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 \| 05:11 AM Sorry, I must have missed the evidence in your advertotial, sorry, testimonial. A quick question, though. At the seminar I attended the presenter categorically stated that these patches would bring instant relief! If that relief is pain and illness because my body is detoxifying shouldn't he have told me that! Oh, and why did he suddenly lose interest and move on to another topic when the poor, wheelchair-bound sufferer who was disgracefully paraded before the gathering didn't display the 'instant' improvement he'd been touting. The poor chap was quietly wheeled out later while the audience's attention was focused on the glutathione rubbish presentation. It was the worse form of 1850s snake-oil theatre imaginable. One positive sign, though, the distributor responsible for that presentation seems to have taken me off the mailing list. They have isolated the unbeliever from the miracles on offer.
Suzi Babbio	Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 \| 09:28 AM MOST people receive instant relief. Perhaps the presenter was new or had never experienced relief taking longer? I cannot answer for them, but there are differences between people and certainly experience can be one of them. When I was new I forgot to tell my dad that he might experience detox symptoms, and the next thing I hear from my mom is that Dad has the flu. Uh oh... I totally knew what was going on. I called him, told him to take the patches off, and the detox reaction would go away. Which it did. He has worn them since, but whenever he starts to feel ill, he takes them off and tries later on when he feels fine. Toxic people have to go much slower. My dad had been using analgesics for 3 years for horrible hip pain. He is 89 years old and can barely walk. But I have seen the patches put him into zero pain relief in less than 5 seconds. He is also a medical doctor, and very hard to convince of anything NON drug oriented. And the wheel chair person? Too bad you did not know what happened to him. By the end of the presentation, he was out of his wheel chair. By the end of the evening, he was dancing with his wife. This is a person who has a muscular wasting disease. Even the founder was blown away. Everyday each of us, including him, learns new things about these marvelous patches. That is one no one expected, but all have been delighted for the man. There are loads more stories of what seem to be miracles, and even revival tent-like, but if you were the person in pain for years, or had shrapnel in your body from Vietnam, or had a central nervous system affliction that gave you horrible, chronic pain, and you were now out of it, off your narcotic drugs, able to have a quality of life again so much improved from what you knew, can't you imagine the appreciation from the wondrous things? Even for me, with headaches gone in seconds or sore muscles from working out GONE in seconds, I am thrilled, but my issues are teeny compared to major suffering many people have been freed from. Perhaps you can at least be open enough to consider that your reactions were what you were looking for, so you made the pieces fit vs. what the actual information was, regarding the presenter AND the wheel chair person?
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 \| 10:25 AM Suzi Babbio In Las Vegas How appropriate that you are from a major entertainment center. I thought that what went on in Vegas stayed in Vegas. However, "Perhaps you can at least be open enough..." The classic LifeWaver sales line. The skeptics on this forum have been keeping an open mind since February 2005, waiting for that ONE shred of REAL verifiable evidence that the patches are anything else than the brown (glucose) and white (glycerin) as per David Schmidt's own information. Perhaps YOU could at least be open enough to the idea that David Schmidt is the consummate sociopath who has conned his way into many countries, with varying degrees of success. "I have spent over 30 years researching..." That's wonderful. At last, a genuine scientist in our midst. I would love to read some of your research that you have had published in peer reviewed journals, especially on the patches. You would be the very FIRST person to have published ANYTHING in such a manner. "There are documented, scientific studies behind everything that I use or accept for my body or for recommendation to others." Oh dear. You were doing so well. There are NO, ZERO, NADA, documented SCIENTIFIC studies on the LifeWave SCAM patches. Like all the LifeWavers that have preceded you, you have been conned by the LIAR David (not a doctor or a scientist) Schmidt. You have accepted at face value the so called studies that the LifeWave website lists. So much for your abilities in the due diligence department. "...to have earned a coveted PBS documentary airing this month..." And there it is folks, the much anticipated reference to the program. David Schmidt has cleverly maneuvered his company into a slot in "The American Health Journal", a program INDEPENDANTLY produced by a video production company. This production company is NOT, repeat NOT PBS. The company makes videos on demand and sells them to various TV audiences. Some of these audiences receive the programs via their local PBS TV station. THAT is the connection with PBS. Again, you didn't do your due diligence did you? That's what..."constitutes gross arrogance and ignorance." As for your ANNECTDOTAL "evidence". Nuff said. After a such promising start, I believe your 8.00pm show is calling you. Break a leg! !
Suzi Babbio	Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 \| 10:39 AM It is clear where you stand, and i do not stand with you. You are 100% wrong on all accounts, including documented studies and research, to name but two, but I choose not to engage further, as your mind was made up long before I wrote one word apparently, so frankly, you are not worth my time. Go interrogate someone else with your negativity and lack of facts. It seems you enjoy it.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 \| 11:31 AM Suzi Babbio In Las Vegas Your expected, and predictable words, betray the fact that you have not taken time to peruse the many pages of this thread. Your words, and many, many, like them are recorded on the pages of the LifeWave SCAM thread. Again you illustrate YOUR arrogance by proclaiming that your point of view, one of a LifeWaver, is 100% correct and all other viewpoints are 100% wrong. Every one of the searchers of TRUTH who post here have received much more acerbic comments than yours. "It is clear where you stand, and i do not stand with you." Ah, a single point we can both agree on. I will never stand side by side with people who knowingly, or unwittingly, promote SCAMS. The LifeWave SCAM, despite it's longevity WILL ultimately run its course. When it does, you will use rationalization, just as you do now, to come to terms with why you will no longer use the product. Thank you for stopping by as it serves as a timely reminder to the hard core posters who have stuck with it these past years as to why we are posting in the first place. Thank you for that. David
EDHUK Member	Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 \| 07:31 PM Karida and Razi, This is a forum thread on LIFEWAVE SCAM PATCHES. You are in the wrong place.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 \| 09:52 AM Alex Thanks for taking care of the spammers. Makes you wonder if we are finally touching a nerve at LifeWave central! Dave !
Joel Member	Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 \| 10:44 AM Suzio Babbio <i>"Y-Age . . . detoxifies the body. No symptoms would be felt if they were not toxic, and IF they were not ridding toxins!"</i> Really? Is that an example of the logic and range of open-mindedness with which you approach you life and your job, to wit: If some people feel sick after they put Lifewave patches on, then there's no other explanation than that Lifewave patches rid the body of "toxins"? Your mind is not open to any other possibilities? Wow, that's truly fascinating. You are the type of person that keeps me addicted to this forum. You wrote, <i>
coachmike	Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 \| 07:30 PM My, my. Such smug certitude. I'm reminded of Gandhi's comment about new (read: threatening) ideas: "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." There are more than 3 dozen double-blind, placebo-controlled studies supporting Lifewave's underlying technology. As for those who argue that the effect is no more than a placebo, one study was done with 147 race horses, measuring and documenting performance improvement with the energy patches applied. Horses, incapable of abstract cognition, are not subject to placebo effects. Seems like most of the postings are from one person, EDHUK who, apparently, has a lot of time on his hands and a serious ax to grind with David Schmidt.
Razela in Chicago, IL Member	Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 \| 08:15 PM Coachmike, we welcome you here, but you clearly haven't read much of the thread. We've gone over each of the studies listed on Lifewave's website. I know 254 pages are quite a bit to get through, but I highly suggest you at least try to skim over it a bit. You'll see that we've pretty much covered all of the "studies."
EDHUK Member	Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 \| 09:04 PM coachmike in Las Vegas A second visitor from Vegas in two days. Again, I thought what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. As Razela has pointed out, you were too busy to actually read this thread before posting. I would call THAT being smug, don't you think? Interesting to see the horses have become "race horses". Wonders will never cease. Had you read this forum thread you would now know that Dr. Lauren DeRock's infamous horse study has been examined closely and exposed for what it is. Scientific study it most certainly is not. You would also know that Dr. DeRock is a distributor of LifeWave patches and many other products. You would have discovered that as a result of DeRock's "study" the Journal where she was published adopted stringent peer review practices to prevent such a publishing debacle from happening again. Dr. DeRock designed and carried out her "study" and subjectively interpreted her results. The "study" didn't even make it to the level of Science 101 in High School. As you have only looked at the last few pages you indeed have seen me post a great number of times recently. Had you gone back a few weeks you would know that I have had major surgery and, yes. happen to have "...time on my hands right now". YES, I have a serious axe to grind with the SOCIOPATH David (not a doctor or a scientist) Schmidt. I have a serious problem with ANY SCAM artist, hence my posts on other scam artists. Your point about this being...? Coach Mike, if you are planning to take the place of the late Coach Richard Quick, you have a very long way to go. *
Joel Member	Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 \| 09:55 PM coachmike: Have you read the horse study? I did, every word of it. It was hilarious. It wasn't a double blind study. It wasn't even a blind study, at least it doesn't claim to be. Here's my criticism of it. http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forum/forum_comments/2526/P2420/. EDHUK added some good comments as well. Please read every word of the study and my and EDHUK's criticisms. Consider everything thoughtfully, including the fact that the publisher was so embarrassed by this article that it caused them to change their publication policy, and come back here and let us know whether you find the study, in your considered opinion, to constitute credible evidence to support LifeWave's claims. We look forward with anticipation to your comments. In any event, I'll issue the same challenge to you that I have issued to a number of other Lifewave supporters, every single one of whom has responded by promptly running away with their tails between their legs, some yelling insults as they left. You're not too far from me. I'll bet you $5000 cash that you can't consistently tell the difference between real Lifewave patches and fake (placebo) patches merely by the effect they have on you. We'll videotape you trying to pick out which is which for 20 patches, and then we'll reveal which was which. We'll put the whole thing on Youtube. This will be fun. Maybe we can even get it onto PBS. Are you up to it?
EDHUK Member	Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 \| 10:00 PM Joel, $5,000 sounds good, but let's not forget Randi's $1 Million which is still up for grabs. Heck, Coach Mike could do your $5,000 for a warm up and then, as he's sure to win, he could go on for the Million bucks. Easy! !
EDHUK Member	Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 \| 09:31 PM AUTISM This forum thread on the SOCIOPATH David (not a doctor OR a scientist) and his SCAM LifeWave patches has, in the past, mentioned the claims by LifeWave to treat autistic children by the use of glutathione increasing patches. Up to 300% increase in one day. http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forums/viewthread/8237/ http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/lifewaves-glutathione-for-autism-and-many-other-benefits/6126897/ Tonight, on PBS "Nova Science", the latest research into causes of autism was featured in a section of the program. It was interesting to note that neither glutathione nor vaccinations was mentioned. What was discussed was the exciting new research of DNA from families with autistic children. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/0402/04.html The episode will be online 7/8/09. Given that the chance of a sibling of an autistic child also developing autism was quoted as 1 in 5, the choices parents must make is unimaginable. My heart goes out to any parent of an autistic child or children. May the next few years bring hope from the exciting genetic research being carried out. *
Razela in Chicago, IL Member	Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 \| 10:00 PM EDHUK, was that the Nova episode on Alleles? That's one of my favorites!
EDHUK Member	Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 \| 07:21 AM Razela, It was the companion series, "Nova science NOW" http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/0402/04.html The segment on autism featured a mother of an autistic child who traveled far and wide to obtain blood samples from family members of autistic children. She convinced the scientist who discovered the Alzheimer's gene to take up her cause and look for genes that may be responsible for autism. Fascinating. The episode is now online at the link above. *
Razela in Chicago, IL Member	Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 \| 07:42 PM Nice! I recorded the most recent Nova Science Now on my Tivo and will probably get around to watching it tonight. I love Neil Degrass Tison!
EDHUK Member	Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 \| 09:27 PM Razela, Meanwhile, while we take an interest in REAL scientific research, SOCIOPATH David (not a doctor or a scientist) Schmidt will continue to push the notion that he has discovered a way to help autistic children. http://www.guba.com/watch/3000114882 http://www.lifewave.com/pdf/Research/Research-Hippocrates.pdf Check out Dr. Steve Haltiwanger, yes the same Haltiwanger who is on probation for writing illegal prescriptions for injectable Demerol, as he spouts garbage on the subject of glutathione in relation to the patch. Haltiwanger continues on probation. http://services.georgia.gov/dch/mebs/performSearch.do;jsessionid=5d85befd2a703ffffffffd04cb5cdcffe846 Schmidt the SOCIOPATH will push "detoxification by use of a non-transdermal patch" with the claimed end result of an improvement in autistic children. He is the lowest form of despicable con man, leading tired and weary families to believe they have found the magical answer to the riddle of autism. This SOCIOPATH goes to bed every night and sleeps like a baby. His only thought before he drops off to sleep is how he can SCAM more money with yet another patch "invention". $$$
EDHUK Member	Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 \| 09:43 PM BTW Our reliable source (Gabe8345) on the benefits of the glutathione patch http://www.guba.com/watch/3000114882 Is also an expert on Xp3 fuel additive: http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/xp3-fuel-enhancer/19284275 And...he can help you get out of debt: http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/strawman-cant-pay-bills/17690057 Then there's Metabolife: http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/the-metabolife-story-fact-or-fiction-1/17369296 This video takes the prize: http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/glutathione-and-autism/16046090 Watch it and weep for the families. !
EDHUK Member	Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 \| 09:47 PM More people in the sad search for help with autism including detox from 6 feet away! http://www.autism-pdd.net/testdump/test28669.htm ?
Joel Member	Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 \| 11:21 AM Hey I've heard that people have experienced flu-like symptoms after merely bringing Lifewave patches into the house, even without wearing them! The ever open minded Suzio Babbio will no doubt conclude that that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Lifewave patches "detoxify" the body even from 6 feet away or farther, because there's no other possible explanation. Heck, I've even heard of one person that brought Lifewave patches into the house, and his neighbor 5 houses away begin experiencing flu-like symptoms! The power of the patches is amazing. Don't laugh at Lifewave.
Joel Member	Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 \| 10:29 PM <i>"only to have newbies such as Suzio Babbio enter the frey who still walk blindly into the arms of David Schmidt"</i> Like lambs to the slaughter.
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 \| 10:16 AM The LifeWave SCAM bandwagon rolls on with a busy Summer of meetings. Saturday, August 15 Lake Placid, NY LifeWave Anti Aging and Wellness Seminar Time: Registration 8:30AM / Start time 9:00AM Cost: FREE Location: Lake Placid Central High School Auditorium - 50 Cummings Rd, Lake Placid, NY Special Guest Speakers: John Chance and George Hoagland, Top Money Earners with Lifewave Host/Contact: To confirm your attendance for this limited-seating event, RSVP by August 7th by going to http://www.optimalhealthseminar.com Notes: Learn How to Improve Your Quality of Life. Come Learn and Experience Breakthrough non-drug solutions to five of the leading health concerns today. Receive over $200 value in gifts from Wellness Practitioners and Local Businesses just for attending and learn how you could win a FREE Cruise with Suzanne Somers! WOW A FREE cruise with Suzanne Somers! Could it get any better? That's an interesting use of the High School Auditorium. I imagine the PTA, the principal, Katherine Mulderig, and superintendant, James D. Donnelly Jr., were all fully aware that they were renting out the hall to a company run by SOCIOPATH David (not a doctor or a scientist)Schmidt promoting sales of a SCAM patch product. Or were they? http://lpds-ny.schoolloop.com/cms/page_view?d=x&piid;=&vpid=1244185200195 I expect the Board of Education gave their approval for this less than stellar use of the auditorium as well? http://lpds-ny.schoolloop.com/cms/page_view?d=x&piid;=&vpid=1244185202373 After all, as a school system, they are trying to educate children about the difference between right and wrong, ethics and morals. Allowing this SOCIOPATH to hold a business meeting promoting this SCAM is hardly the way to promote such ideals to young impressionable minds. Right? ?
EDHUK Member	Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 \| 10:34 AM Schmidt the SOCIOPATH is certainly pushing out the boat! http://lifewavetraining.com/news/?p=240#more-240 Suzanne stands to make a buck or two as well. "Suzanne promises to reveal her personal secrets to attaining optimum health, which has helped her maintain years of peak business performance and success." I'm not sure I could listen to more stories about Suzanne injecting her vagina! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/29/suzanne-somers-daily-rout_n_162342.html !
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