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EDHUK
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 | 07:39 AM
Joel,
I guess the patches are sooooo clever they know gender differences!
Or, maybe not. Have you looked closely at fatty Haltiwanger lately?
Can you say "man bro"? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 | 06:18 PM
Bill Nott in Alaska,
It's been about 3 years since you made a number of posts on this forum thread expressing your delight with the product.
A lot of water has gone under the bridge since then and I would be interested to hear how you, and your family, have adjusted to David Schmidt's changing versions of how his "amazing" product works.
Are you still a user?
Does your brother still distribute the patches?
Are you still as convinced as you were in 2006 that the product is genuine?
Any feedback would be valuable Bill.
Cheers,
David
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Joel
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 | 03:45 PM
According to http://www.lifewavesouthwest.com, the energy patch can make a woman's breasts larger.
That's strange - isn't a woman's breast mostly fat tissue? And doesn't Lifewave claim that the energy patch magically commands the body to "burn more fat" ? http://www.lifewaveinfo.com/life_wave_patch_details.php
So a fat-burning patch would logically be a breast <i>reducing</i> patch, wouldn't it?
I guess that's just one more way in which the phony "Dr." David Schmidt has overcome the known laws of both physics and logic. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 | 05:02 PM
Joel,
Your point is well made, but we know, ad nauseum, that LifeWavers are not really interested in pesky details.
The website you cite gives this explanation of how the patches work:
"LifeWave Energy Patches are programmed to reflect the exact frequencies of light that 'tell' your body to send more fat to the mitochondria in your cells burn more fat for energy."
"...frequencies of light..."
This explanation is more in line with the Schmidt interview in the Philippines.
http://lifewavetraining.com/training.asp
This explanation of functioning talks about "...heating and cooling effect above the surface of the skin..."
http://www.nanotechenergizer.com/
In the early days, Schmidt pushed the notion of the patches "talking" to your body like a transistor radio transmitting instructions.
Strange that so few will stop to wonder why the explanations have changed over the years.
That would be far too much detail for most readers.
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EDHUK
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 | 05:12 PM
Here's a freebie, Schmidt.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7378349.stm
"Fat cell numbers set for life".
Even though you have no verifiable scientific background, you certainly are very good at latching on to ideas and milking them for all they are worth.
So, here's your new idea. A new patch that will cause the total numbers of fat cells to be reduced.
You will, of course, back up your claims with wonderful "studies" conducted by highly "reputable" researchers.
What catchy name will you choose for this particular patch I wonder?
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 | 05:42 PM
Just an update, I have sent off a couple of emails to real doctors within the autism field to ask them of their interest in doing a double blind placebo study on the glutathione patches, to date I have had no replies. I can not approach Lifewave with a request without first having a research doctor on board. I am also following up on having autism australia perhaps conduct a double blind study so I will keep you informed of that when I have more. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 | 06:45 PM
Lissa in Australia,
Thank you so much for the update.
As you know, I am one of the regular "skeptical" posters here. You also know that I am interested in getting to the truth about David Schmidt and his MLM business.
Please keep in touch.
Cheers,
David |
Captain Al
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 | 11:15 PM
Here's the latest on actress Suzanne Somers' use of Lifewave patches. It had a brief mention in the latest edition of <i>Newsweek</i> which has an article criticizing the pseudo science being promoted on the <i>Oprah Winfrey Show</i>.
The interesting thing is Lifewave patches don't seem to be enough to do the job:
"<i>Each morning, the 62-year-old actress and self-help author rubs a potent estrogen cream into the skin on her arm. She smears progesterone on her other arm two weeks a month. And once a day, she uses a syringe to inject estrogen directly into her vagina. The idea is to use these unregulated "bio-identical" hormones to restore her levels back to what they were when she was in her 30s, thus fooling her body into thinking she's a younger woman. According to Somers, the hormones, which are synthesized from plants instead of the usual mare's urine (disgusting but true), are all natural and, unlike conventional hormones, virtually risk-free (not even close to true, but we'll get to that in a minute).
Next come the pills. She swallows 60 vitamins and other preparations every day. "I take about 40 supplements in the morning," she told Oprah, "and then, before I go to bed, I try to remember |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 | 05:49 AM
Captain Al,
You can take it to the bank if it's on Oprah, right?
Susanne Somers stated she slept 8-9 hours a night because she has restored her hormone levels.
The patches must be some extra "insurance"!
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jayessell
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 | 06:45 AM
EDHUK:
"A Million Little Pieces" |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 | 09:31 AM
What, no Harmony Chip for Suzanne Somers?
I'm sure that with wearing just 1 Harmony Chip in each shoe, Somers could do away with the need for all those pills, creams, patches, IV drips, injections both vaginal and otherwise, chelation, detoxificatin, and standing on her head. Why, just read the testimonials!
Nice find, Cap'n. |
Captain Al
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 | 10:56 AM
Dave,
Of course the only people going to the bank are Oprah and her "expert" guests. If you manage to get on her show you are virtually guaranteed to have the sales go through the roof. These people must be climbing all over each other to get close to Oprah to present their latest woo product. Her audience however is left holding a bag full of useless and potentially dangerous products and advice. David Schmidt must be so envious.
Joel,
I doubt Somers would ever promote the Harmony Chip. She sells all that stuff remember. The Harmony Chip as you well know claims to do everything and lasts for years and would make all her other products unnecessary. No profit in that.
Check out her website:
http://www.suzannesomers.com/
She even has a page about Lifewave with a downloadable interview with David Schmidt. And here's what she says about the them:
<i>Talk about breakthrough medicine! I have been using these non-drug patches with incredible results to manage pain, improve sleep, increase energy, suppress appetite, and for overall detoxification. I can't say enough about them! Why take a pill when you can put on a patch?</i>
That's odd. Why does she take 60 pills a day when all she has to do is put on a patch? |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 | 11:26 AM
Cap'n Al wrote:
<i>I doubt Somers would ever promote the Harmony Chip. She sells all that stuff remember.</i>
OMG, you're right. Suzanne Somers and David Schmidt KNOW that Harmony Chips would make unnecessary all of those pills, patches, injections, IV drips, homeopathic sprays, and what-not that they sell. But they CONSPIRE with big pharma to suppress the information, so that Somers and Schmidt, like big pharma, can keep selling us pills and patches and sprays, and keep us sick and dependent on them! I KNEW that when Schmidt and Somers had become successful, they would join the vast pharma-wing conspiracy! Does greed have no bounds? |
Captain Al
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 | 01:21 PM
Joel,
No word yet on her breasts getting larger. Guess we'll have to wait for her next photo spread in Playboy. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 | 03:05 PM
Mmmmmmm
That would be the Playboy Senior Edition I presume! |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 | 04:23 PM
From "Storm", by Tim Minchin:
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EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 | 06:59 AM
This thread, started on February 24, 2005 by Fawkes, has covered a lot of ground in the attempt to show that either A: David Schmidt is the most amazing inventor to come along in hundreds of years or B: David Schmidt is a simple con-man selling his snake oil products via Multi level Marketing.
For the skeptics, myself included, the decision about the answer has not been very hard. For some, though, the decision continues to be harder to make.
LifeWave is still in business with anecdotal "evidence" being posted here from time to time but still no real proof that the company, and Schmidt, is anything more than a scam.
Why is this?
On Monday, this week, Captain Al posted a link to a fascinating Newsweek article about Oprah Winfrey.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/200025/output/print
"In 2007, Oprah invited Jenny McCarthy, the Playboy model and actress, to describe her struggle to find help for her young son. When he was 2 |
Joel
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 | 09:05 PM
This is getting off topic, but if a number of scientific studies by ugly doctors published in medical journal have found no link between childhood vaccines and autism, but a Playboy centerfold with breast implants thinks otherwise, who are we to argue with the nice tits?
http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/gingernut/lancet/Brent Taylor June 1999.pdf
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/112/3/604
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/290/13/1763
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/114/3/793 (reviewing the previously published studies and drawings overall conclusions) |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 | 06:31 PM
Joel, and everyone.
Here's an interesting piece of information that should be worth an email to PBS requesting info and justification if true.
http://quikonnex.com/channel/item/34013
"LifeWave Special on PBS in July
Wednesday, May 27, 2009
On the Tuesday rep training call, LifeWave inventor and CEO David Schmidt announced that the Producer from PBS call the LifeWave office and gave some very interesting news. LifeWave IceWave patches and the LifeWave Glutathione patches were mentioned in the testimonials that are going to be aired in July."
Are we to believe that ANY PBS program has been conned into believing the LifeWave company is anything but a SCAM?
I know that, for one, I will not be a happy camper if my PBS dollars are used to further enrich the offshore bank account of the supreme con-man and 2 year business degree holder David (NOT a Doctor)Schmidt.
If PBS does in any way promote this scam there will be red faces to follow.
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EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 | 06:36 PM
http://members.audiogenerator.com/postcard/?6558595X1166
Listen to our con-man salivate as he contemplates people "...rushing out to buy the patches..." after this PBS special airs.
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EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 | 06:55 PM
The PBS program:
http://lifewavetraining.com/news/?p=44
"Producers for Discoveries in Alternative Medicine interviewed several top distributors and medical team members at our La Jolla, CA headquarters March 23 |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 | 09:05 PM
"Among the medical doctors appearing on the program is health and life coach and LifeWave member Sherry Blake-Greenberg, who holds doctorates in homeopathy, psychotherapy, and naturopathy. During her interview, she shared the results of her recent clinical study on the Y-Age Glutathione patch."
"The PBS program also features Dr. Steve Haltiwanger, LifeWave |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 | 10:36 PM
So far it sounds rather like an infomercial. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 | 10:53 PM
It seems that terrible conspiracy between the pharmaceutical companies (but not, of course, the companies that Lifewave uses to manufacture its oral treatments) and non-progressive medical people just seems to be getting worse. Why else would we not be hearing all the fantastic infomation about Lifewave on the major TV and radio stations instead of just PBS.
So many people missing out on all that goodness.
(NOT) |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 | 12:26 AM
<i>"LifeWave member Sherry Blake-Greenberg, who holds doctorates in homeopathy, psychotherapy, and naturopathy." </i> http://lifewavetraining.com/news/?p=44
Wow. "Dr." Sherry is adding doctorates fast! Now she has three. Most people have to study years for even a single PhD, but she added two PhD's in just the last couple of weeks. Well, I AM impressed.
Or maybe LifeWave is lying again . . . |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 | 12:36 AM
Here is the contact info for PBS. Let them know what you think.
Public Broadcasting Service
2100 Crystal Drive
Arlington, VA 22202
Telephone (202) 879-9600
http://www.pbs.org/aboutsite/aboutsite_emailform.html
Email them via this page: http://www.pbs.org/aboutsite/aboutsite_emailform.html |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 | 06:52 AM
Joel,
David Schmidt mentions that the Producer of PBS personally interviewed 5,000 doctors.
http://members.audiogenerator.com/postcard/?6558595X1166
Here David Schmidt mentions that the Producer interviewed 4,000 "practitioners".
"David also shared that the program |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 | 08:22 AM
Real research at last?
"Also interviewed on the program were Drs. Tom Budzynski..."
"He published his findings in the Journal of Neurotherapy last year."
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15102216/Lifewave-Research-Heart-Rate-Variability-Enhancement
"The Nazeran study, like this study, was supported by funds from LifeWave Inc."
Clearly, no conflict of interests here!
I'm beginning to wonder if the producer of this PBS program has any plans to work again?
Can anyone say credibility?
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EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 | 07:22 PM
With apologies to everyone for making so many posts but this PBS program is going to be well worth watching.
Dr. Sherry Blake-Greenberg was interviewed according to Schmidt.
For some insight into this lady read page 16 and 17 January 2009:
http://www.easyreader.info/peninsulapeople/tearsheets.php
Most interesting reading.
"See that tower up there?" said Blake-Greenberg, pointing to a wood -covered device on an upper shelf. The object protects her office-and others within a 60 meter radius-from electro-magnetic disturbances.
A much smaller version affixes to her cell phone to "clip" away the high and low frequencies that cause physical disturbances in the cell phone user.
Read it and weep folks. You can't make this stuff up.
Dave
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Accipiter
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 | 12:31 PM
Some of these PBS shows end up with transcripts published on the Internet. That could be interesting to read.
And on another note: only nine more comments to go on this topic, and we'll have 5,000 replies! That gives us an average of over 3 replies per day over four and a quarter years! Woooo!
*gets the champagne ready* |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 | 05:57 PM
Perhaps someone can help me understand.
Page 16
http://www.easyreader.info/peninsulapeople/tearsheets/0109/Pages9-16.pdf
Page 17
http://www.easyreader.info/peninsulapeople/tearsheets/0109/Pages17-24.pdf
The article about Dr. Sherry Blake-Greenberg mentions her use of various "alternative" health products and devices.
We are to believe she has done everything to be at the peak of physical health.
She uses "...fermented soy from a special place in China, and another food that is absorbed by the body the way sunlight is absorbed, rather than by digestion."
Dr. Blake-Greenberg "...doesn't believe in supplements...only whole foods."
The article goes on to mention that the good doctor's "...physique and appearance are considerably younger than her 57 years."
Now, this is where I have the problem. In looking at the photograph, at the hands especially, I thought Dr. Blake-Greenberg was in the 65+ group. I was shocked to read that she is only 57.
What about all those whole foods? What about the various products she uses for skin health? What about the LifeWave skin patches?
NONE of it seems to have done any good at all.
Or maybe the photographer didn't use good lighting!
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Joel
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 | 06:45 PM
Our government spent $2.5 billion of our hard-earned money on studying things like "distance healing" ? ! ! Arrrggggg! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 | 06:47 PM
WWSN1
Hi Bob,
Funny that you should post the info about the Government Dept and their "studies".
I was looking online to see if PBS has listed the date in July when they will show the LifeWave "special".
I came across the Frontline program on Alternative medicine.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/altmed/
Video #3 "Where's the evidence" is most interesting. Lots of big players and obviously a lot of money involved all around.
Bet you can't wait until Schmidt gets his exposure on PBS!
Dave |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 | 09:37 PM
I'm pretty curious as to who the producer of the PBS show is, but I suck at researching that kind of thing. (Ok, it's not that I'm bad at it, it's that I'm too lazy to...) |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 | 08:37 AM
hcmomof4 in So. Cal.
David Schmidt has very cleverly only given "teaser" information about the program.
He calls the program "Discoveries in alternative medicine". He doesn't give out complete details. I guess he doesn't want to make it too easy for us to be able to ask the producer some embarrassing questions.
Don't worry, there will be plenty of time for that.
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hcmomof4
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 | 10:16 AM
This is partly why I wonder if it's a "sponsored by LifeWave" type show.... |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 | 10:23 AM
hcmomof4
in So. Cal.
Given that we are talking about David Schmidt, it HAS to be dodgy by definition.
Scam in scam out, right?
My local PBS station has no knowledge of such a program in July and can offer no suggestions as to where it might be aired.
It may be aired on a limited number of stations but you can be sure that Schmidt will milk it for all it's worth.
No doubt YouTube will be filled with various clips.
I guess the PBS Ombudsman will be getting a few emails if it does indeed air as promised.
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EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 | 12:59 PM
WWSN1
Hey Bob,
This LifeWaver seems to think you've been shut down!
"A quick web search on 'LifeWave' will reveal thousands of pages, half of which are sites promoting the patches, and the other half are "hoax" or "scam" sites warning people what a con they are. One of the most outspoken sites was World Wide Scam.
It seems that this site has now been shut down due to the volume of slanderous comments against LifeWave as a company and the inventors of the patches."
http://www.ei-resource.org/myblog/What-s-the-fuss-about-LifeWave-patches-.html
Mmmmm
Guess your site is just in my imagination!
http://www.worldwidescam.info/
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EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 | 09:12 PM
WWSN1
Bob,
As you know only too well, David Schmidt has created his own version of truth.
Along the way he has convinced many that his "invention" is real. Some of his company members remained for a while before they realized they had been conned.
People like Dr. Haltiwanger, who know it's all a scam, continue in Schmidt's employ. Being struck off for illegal controlled drug prescriptions does rather leave a stain.
Now that there a number of online video clips of Schmidt one can see first hand how good he is at lying to the camera.
Hey, did you know that vitamin C lasts less than 45 minutes in your body, that's why you should be buying his Y Age patches. He says it is so, therefore it must be, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDqKYF3ThBA&feature=related
0.45 secs
Classic!
It's so easy to lie, just look at these folks selling glutathione:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ5nrn2cAfE&feature=related
Uh oh....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUHVCa1T4ME&feature=related
It's FAKE...and it looked so convincing.
Oh, let's not forget the glutathione is used for SKIN WHITENING.
Schmidt doesn't mention that does he?
In theory, LifeWave Y Age users should be easy to spot, especially if they started out with darker complexions.
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EDHUK
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 | 12:19 PM
WWSN1
Bob,
As we wait, with increasing anticipation, for the "launching" of LifeWave on an, up to now, respectable PBS program, I think it is timely to post a page from your WWSN website.
Let's remind ourselves, once again, about the integrity of "Dr." David Schmidt:
http://worldwidescam.info/drschmidt.htm
Kudos
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EDHUK
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 | 06:04 PM
Holy cow, the power of the internet!
It's already being advertised before it has even been aired!
"Lifewave non-transderman patches: This is truly the hottest technology in breakthrough medicine. An exciting and dynamic application which uses the human body |
Joel
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 | 09:56 PM
YET AN ENTIRELY NEW EXPLANATION BY LIFEWAVE OF HOW THE PATCHES WORK:
<i>These are non-transdermal patches with a new technology that gently stimulates acupuncture points to improve the body |
Joel
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 | 10:15 PM
DAVID SCHMIDT IS STILL VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW |
Joel
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 | 10:25 PM
Lifewave claims on its website that "it's patented." http://lifewavetraining.com/training.asp > click on "The Lifewave Experience" video.
The truth, however, is that it's not patented. Here it is, more than 7 years after Schmidt's first original patent application was filed on September 25, 2002, and Lifewave's patent application (serial No. 10/669,596) has been rejected numerous times by the Patent and Trademark Office. It currently stands rejected. The patches are not "patented" as Lifewave claims.
It turns out that it is a violation of federal law to falsely claim that a product is patented. 35 U.S.C. Section 292 ("Whoever . . . uses in advertising in connection with any unpatented article, the word 'patent' or any word or number importing that the same is patented, for the purpose of deceiving the public . . shall be fined not more than $500 for every such offense.")
. . . and that's not to mention any truth-in-advertising laws.
Dr. Schmidt, would you like to comply with federal law now? |
Joel
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 | 11:19 PM
Ok, my math is bad. That should have been, "More than 6 years . . . " |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 | 10:43 AM
Joel,
Let's face it, we chuckle when we read of yet ANOTHER explanation about how the patches are supposed to work.
Yet, out there, in woo woo land there are personalities who just love this stuff and are willing to put their cash into David Schmidt's offshore bank account. It's a pretty neat self selection process. If I'm one of those slightly wacky alternative this and that types I'm an easy sell when it comes to LifeWave patches.
In addition to all the above explanations we now have the "...which uses the human body |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 | 12:01 PM
Mmmmm
http://lifewavetraining.com/training.asp
"How to Prepare for an |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 | 12:08 PM
I wonder is George Hoagland is related to Richard Hoagland.... http://www.enterprisemission.com/mission.html |
EDHUK
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 | 05:32 PM
LifeWave once again at the cutting edge of knowledge!
http://lifewavepatchtraining.com/lifewave-summary-may-26-2009/
#1
"...She put patches on his thighs and the spasms stopped immediately."
"She is the three year old who has a degenerative muscle disease. She was on a respirator when she was first patched. Now she is off oxygen completely; she is still paralyzed in the diaphragm area and wears a tube."
#3
"Nausea is a disruption in the flow of energy through the pericardium. Acupuncture point: pericardium 6 on palm of hand. Apply patches to this point to relieve nausea. No need for drugs."
#13
"Parkinson |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 | 12:14 PM
David Schmidt manages to squeeze some publicity for his company from the death of Richard Quick. How predictable.
http://lifewavetraining.com/news/?p=229
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EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 | 05:29 PM
"The LifeWave Technology was born out of 3 years of intense research by David into the concept of being able to naturally increase energy and stamina through elevation of fat burning utilizing wireless communication to the human body."
http://www.lifewave.com/leadership_info.asp
"The self-adhesive LifeWave patches utilize the principles of acupressure to gently stimulate points on the body that have been used to balance and improve the flow of energy in the human body for thousands of years."
http://www.sydneymusicweb.com/gojiguide/acupressure.htm
"When placed above the body the LifeWave NC |
Joel
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 | 08:38 PM
That's the part I never did figure out in this scam - how Richard Quick could get so caught up in it, and for so long.
Somebody who had to surrender his medical license in one state (Dr. Frank Shallenberger in California) and was disciplined in another state (Nevada), or whose medical license is still on probation (Dr. Steven Haltiwanger in Georgia), or who otherwise has a seriously damaged or moribund career - I can understand how people like that get caught up selling snake oil.
Perhaps the brain tumor explained Richard Quick's involvement. I have a friend whose husband engaged in uncharacteristic and very bad behavior for the last year or two of his life, until he was diagnosed with a brain tumor that took his life not long afterward. My friend figures that the brain tumor was probably responsible for his behavior.
Perhaps that's the same way to interpret Richard Quick getting caught up in the Lifewave scam.
Either way, it's a shame that the Lifewave scam will forever mar what was for Coach Richard Quick, as I understand it, an otherwise stellar career and reputation. |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 | 04:45 PM
LIFEEWAVE PATCHES LINKED TO BRAIN CANCER |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 | 04:54 PM
LIFEWAVE PATCHES LINKED TO BRAIN CANCER
If . . .
(a) Lifewave patches act like cell phones to send signals to the body; (http://www.nanotechwire.com/news.asp?nid=1340&ntid=130&pg=23)
(b) cell phones may cause brain tumors according to Oprah |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 | 09:32 PM
Joel,
Are you finding it hard to keep up with the ever changing versions of how the LifeWave scam patches work?
http://www.merchantcircle.com/blogs/Western.Acupatch.Univera.Holistic.Center.714-586-0554/2009/5/Clinical-Studies-On-Nanotechnology-Acupatch-Light-Energy-Treatment/240605
"Clinical Studies On Nanotechnology Acupatch Light Energy Treatment"
I think this is the latest version, but, what do I know!
http://westernacupatch.com/
This brings us back to the main LifeWave web site.
I'm so glad to see the spelling errors are still a feature in this "professional" web site:
Starter Kit
This package includes a one year subscription to the LifeWave replicated Web site and the LifeWave Back Office; it is designed for those who wants to start slowly.
Price $25
"...who wants to start slowly."
Do you wants to?
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Joel
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 | 11:16 PM
Boy, the current explanation of "accupressure" sure is sure a huge change from:
"LifeWave energy patches are novel nanoscale
semiconducting biomolecular antennas, that when placed in the oscillating bioelectromagnetic field of the body, resonate at frequencies in unison with certain biomolecules in the cells and signal specific metabolic pathways to accelerate fat metabolism. As a consequence of accelerated fat burning more cellular energy becomes readily available to support all bodily energy consuming
functions." http://www.lifewave.com/pdf/Research/Research001-HeartRateVariabilityPatches.pdf
Can anyone explain how accupressure is an example of "nanotechnology"? |
Joel
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 | 12:06 AM
LIFEWAVE PATCHES CAN CAUSE SEVERE DIARRHEA WITHIN MINUTES
Lifewave has, in the past, advertised that its patches cause |
Joel
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 | 12:26 AM
Another first hand reports of severe side effects caused by Lifewave patches, but this time the severe side effects lasted all day, every day of patch use:
http://www.ei-resource.org/myblog/Lifewave-Glutathione-Patch---Will-it-Improve-Liver-Function-.html
<i>When placing at LV3 the "detox" reaction was much more intense and lasted all day.....each time I wore the patch there. I wore 4 patches leaving a day inbetween but found the reaction too much. I felt like I had flu and on the 4th patch I just felt so drained and sleepy all day I was in bed at 7 (instead of my usual 10-11). Unfortunately with such powerful reactions I have had to stop using the patches for now . . . </i> |
jayessell
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 | 05:38 AM
How can it have side effects with no effects ?
Were this true the skeptics would have to reconsider their position.
Run a double-blind test to see who gets nauseated. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 | 11:10 AM
jayesell
"How can it have side effects with no effects ?"
Take a look at the paperwork that comes with prescription medicines. It gives side effects info on the medicine and placebo. It's always interesting to see how many people can have nausea, diarrhea, dizziness etc from a placebo.
Another possible answer could be that Schmidt had changed the patches to be transdermal and people were actually putting substances into their body without knowing it. Substances that brought about real effects and real side effects. The original MVA report confirming non-transdermal status was in 2004.
http://www.lifewave.com/pdf/Research/Research004-MVAStudy11-23-04.pdf
Has anyone checked to see if the current patches are non-transdermal?
Schmidt continues to assert the patches are non-transdermal so we must take his word that they are. He is very trustworthy, as you know.
Online comments as well as comments at presentations by LifeWave users are annectdotal. As such, these comments are pretty much useless.
That's why independent research is needed whenever bold claims about any products are made.
When this SCAM finally ends, what are the people, who bought the patches for years, going to do?
Will they say they got their money's worth anyway even though it was finally revealed to be a scam?
Or will they contact LifeWave in the vain hope of getting a refund of the thousands of dollars they contributed to David Schmidt's offshore bank account?
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