The Museum of Hoaxes
DNA Perfection ??
Posted By:
Archana Padhye
Jun 28, 2004
 A site by Toby Alexander :
http://www.dnaperfection.com

claims about something like remote DNA Activation!! I searched web about the authenticity about the said things but could find nothing!

Can anybody throw light upon ?

Thanks.
Category: Scams; Replies: 394

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David B.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 | 01:17 PM
so you agree there is ELECTRICITY in the body, even if 50mV in cells is still a small amount. thanks for proving my point

There's very small amounts of radioactivity too, do you think you're nuclear powered then?

ELECTRICITY flows at the rate that electrons line up

Wrong, and it even says so on the very site you linked to. Electric current moves at less than the speed of light, but the propagation of the electro-motive force around a circuit occurs at the speed of light. (see definition of speed of electricity <a href="http://computing-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/speed+of+electricity%2Flight">here</a>.)

It is analogous to the speed of sound, sound moves a lot faster through the air than the molecules of air themselves move. Very much so in the case of A/C where the electrons wiggle back an forth but actually go nowhere (which by your definition would mean that A/C has a speed of 0).

i was talking about people not thinking there could possibly be a human energy field

Forget "human", just show me a physical example of an energy field. Force fields, I have a plenty - magnetic, electric, gravitational - energy fields not a one.

you believe in energy in the body

Yup, but it don't come in fields young twerp!
amadriel
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 | 12:21 PM
" Share not the mysteries to fools", or something like that the saying goes. If someone doesn't want to believe you, it won't matter what you say they won't change there minds. It's like talking to a wall.

In truth, energy work does work. I have had sessions( but they weren't with tobly they were with David Rapheal Issacsson )and have felt a great difference afterwards.

The only thing, not everyone is ready for certains things at the same time. There are certain poeple who expect miracles right away. But these things take time, hell it took me 7 years to get to the point that i am. To those who have been studying spiritual matters, while you know it takes years and years to gain some knowledge of whats going on, the 'newbies' or 'critics' do not.

There are many others out there who are closed minded or are just not ready for this at this time in there life. That doesn't mean there inferior or stupid, just not ready. Maybe later on they will be and if not well that's ok because that means that's how it 's supose to be for them.

Also, there is a question on mind here. Many things come into thought form before coming into the material plane so basically, if someone doesn't believe it will happen - it most likely won't for them.

And about the frequency thing, Toby was right, while reading some of the post i could sence the negativity before i got to his post.

To those who 'haven't ' had it and are insulting and criticising it, maybe you shouldn't. I mean, we can clearly see that you don't believe in it but just because you can't comprehend it or don't believe it doesn't mean others don't. Nor does it mean that your nescessary right either. If you don't believe it, good, it's your choice but don't go on insulting those who do. At least try to keep an open mind and acknowledge there opinion.
mich
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 | 06:47 PM
HERE HERE!!!
Judgemental, critical, insults dont get you anywhere.
Jorod
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 | 05:51 AM
Wonderhelixes ACTIVATE!

Form of.. bullshit!
nightweaver
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 | 08:06 AM
I personally am not sure about the concept of DNA activation itself but the notions of multiple dimensions is interesting. Recently new scientific theories about the universe indicate that there is the possibility that several dimensions besides the 4 we know exist. I am refering to string theory. Brian Greene has written a book called "The Elegant Universe" that covers the subject in an easy to understand way. Basically it is an attempt to describe the building blocks of everything from the subatomic level on up. Very interesting because it tries to pick up where Einstien left off searching for the theory of everything. This theory fits with our current knowledge of how things work but implies the existence of several other interconnected dimensions that so far are not percievable to current technology. Maybe science and metaphysics are beginning to merge into a new understanding of everything. I am very excited by the implications of these ideas. What if we were able to achieve the level of understanding most of these sites describe. If the theory is correct it is possible. I believe our future holds some very big suprises for us. I will keep an open mind and accept the possibility that the evolution of human conciousness occuring. Changes are happening in the way people are looking at life in general very rapidly. Open your eyes and you'll see what I mean. Things are happening. The sunami earthquake, melting of the polar caps, weather changes are all signs that the Earth is changing, probably in ways we can't comprehend yet. I feel that a major change is happening on many different levels. I'm not predicting anything just observing what I see and feel. I have noticed dramatic changes in my self awareness within the past year. My food cravings have changed to more whole natural foods. I feel more connected to my inner self and more aware of things in my life that need to be changed. I have a desire to change the way I live into one more compatible with the Earth. We all need to take a hard look at ourselves and decide weather we are going to follow the natural laws of the universe or continue living as we do without fully understanding the consequences of the things we create. Hopefully I have inspired someone to open their mind a little and see things in a different way. I feel that everyone needs to discover the truth for themselves from the inside out....
harrus
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 | 05:22 AM
Hi everyone.

The website is a complete hoax. The author doesn't even have a rudimental grasp of basic physical and biological concepts. The part about the
<em>The body and the planet are built the same way - they both have a Kathara Grid. So when the Earth ascends into a higher dimensional, less dense matter state (from now until 2012), if you do not have a certain level of DNA activation and can tolerate the change in angular rotation of particle spin inside the atoms that make up your cells, then you will not make the transition.</em>
is complete, utter BS. The angular rotation of particle spins happens all the time, whenever you apply an external magnetic field, particle spins will react to it. It's a completely natural an normal process which <strong>happens all the time</strong>. This is like trying to sell a magic glue to prevent you from falling off the earth.

I have a prediction for all of those who posted here and claim to believe and support this hoax. It said in the article the world will transform until 2012. I can predict two things right now with absolute certainty:
1. The world will not change as described.
2. Mister Alexander here will find a very flimsy excuse to explain why it hasn't changed.

Don't fall for this people. Hoaxes are as old as civilization, yet people continue to fall for it. Think a little. Try to actually use logic and common sense before spending real money on a complete fraud.
Sally Jacobsen
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 | 11:49 AM
I'm chucklying as I read these posts. Just came across this forum while doing research (not on DNA activation)

Little background for you here. I'm a shaman and yes I do energy work, etc. BUT! and this is the truth, DNA activation does occur and it does it spontaneously in some people.

Looong, Looong, Looong time ago I was working with a woman who was friends with Vianna Stibnal (sp?)and she learned this technique right along with her as in side by side in another class or something like it. Anyways about the time I was learning about this I just HAPPENED to come across a book in Borders about this subject, it was dated in the 1970's I think...not sure.

Point to make is this, there is such a thing, no it did not originate with Vianna Stibnal, even if she says it did. All she did was take the idea and add her two cents and with some marketing gurus made a whooping fortune!

Now for those of you who are foolish enough to pay for this, know this, it takes all of a few minutes to do this and it can be taught very easily. If someone is offering this for a price it just means to me that they haven't worked on themselves enough to offer anything original to people.

It makes me really angry to see all these people being taken advantage of. If I'm doing energy work and I can see the DNA spontaneously activate then yes I will inform the person it did happen. They usually feel it happen. But I would never ever charge for this even though I do charge for my other healing services.

It's like anything else. There's nothing new under the sun. Just different names, different days, different places.

People are really getting hookwinked on this. If your DNA is supposed to activate, it will.

I really get rather sick of these new agey types pulling money from idiots.

I am a shaman and yes I do work on people but for heavens sake most of healing is just good old commone sense.

Eat right, sleep enough, take care of yourself and keep right by your fellow man and you'll do fine.

Sally Jacobsen
Provo, Utah USA
Sally Jacobsen
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 | 11:55 AM
apologies for the spelling errors in the last post

I mean chuckling!

apologies for the rant too, maybe 😉

I just get sick of all the people on the net pretending to be great healers

rubbish

this DNA pricey activation is about as good as the Indigo and Crystal Children stuff

oh too push so much fluff on an unsuspecting and ignorant public!

in all my years of working with people, never have I seen so much horrible abuse of energy or waste of money as all these DNA activation and Reiki sites

I wouldn't let a Reiki Master touch me with a 10 foot pole either!

sorry but I'm a died hard healer who believes in the power of a person to help themselves heal

sooner or later we all have to learn to lift ourselves up by our own bootstraps and not learn on people to do what we ourselves can do

Sally Jacobsen
Provo, Utah
Sheetal Magan
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 | 05:02 PM
I am a 19 year old indian female living in a little place called south africa, with a very liberal upbringing and exposure to vast socio economic conditions. If there are two things I have noticed it is that in South Africa our cultural dynamics force our perceptions to be fluid and open to change. Secondly younger people have received less conditioning and thier minds are adapting to change much faster than children centuries ago.One thing is certain - conciousness is evolving at a faster rate than ever before.The internet in itself is a phenomenon that allows for the freedom of exchange of information.The internet in itself was incoveible to many half a century ago, and now its is common place - perhaps DNA Activation will find the same fate.Change is an aspect of evolution and you need just look around you that if neither positive or negative change is happening fast. This is fact -
This comes with its obvious challenges. And it is no co-incedence that as spiritual enlightenment (the freedom of the mind) becomes a global pursuite forces which attempt to dominate the world(the illuminati, George Bush's government etc.) try desperately to secure the highest form of 3 - dimensional power - weapons of mass destruction.

I have had several self induced spiritual experiences, many very painful,and i most conclude that the potential of the mind which Toby proclaims is a definite reality.
As to whether his services are genuwine is another question entirely.But i must ask myself, considering we are all aware that this thread was sponsored by someone with an Agenda, why is it that Toby Alexander is singled out as we attempt to denounce DNA activation? It is obvious that this thread was not open simply to discuss the realities and possiblities of DNA activation but rather to expose/victimise Toby Alexander.
Furthermore those who seem to embrace DNA activation appear to be operating at more open minded frequencies and those who denounce it tend to be more agressive,intolerant,sarcastic and scientific(simply a thought system which demands 3D evidence as proof) minded.

What disturbs me about this forum is the obvious sense of rivalry between those both "higher" and "lower" frequencies. This is not a discussion but a tug of war on truth.After thirteen pages i still do not feel more enlightened on the subject and would call on more people with positive experiences to come forward and share. A truly satisfied client of Toby's would be most apt.

My question to Toby is that considering he was able to treble his income on the stock market in 2 months using remote viewing and DNA Activation allows one to materialise income(the man obviously has great affinity with power and material wealth and he is allowed this) - Why charge at all? I understand you require an income but why not "manifest' alterior means for this or simply charge less?
Many more would be willing to be activated...or is this perhaps Toby's ploy - to attract only those who resonate enough with his site to pay out...? Such a material dilemma for such a spiritual problem...strange indeed.
Sheetal Magan
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 | 05:23 PM
People with some level of awakening, who have experienced themselves as god will understand that the powers Toby Speaks of are very real possiblities. They would also understand that DNA Activation is then atleast a possibility if not a reality, furthermore that it is very likely that one could be given a purpose to activate others for the greater good. Thirdly the exclusivity Toby speaks of which seems to offend many may have a very real purpose. He is simply saying that it is importnat for him to activate as many people as possible and therefore it only makes sense that he activate only those who are ready.This is to ensure that conciousness on the planet evolves as fast as possible. Perhaps his fees are a way of ensuring that only those who are serious about activation will come forward.If it was a free service, every Tom,Dick and Harriette would be involved which could create a very real problem for Toby. Those who asked for refunds did not seem sincere or serious about spiritual growth but rather material gain.The fact that his services are widely available and for much cheaper certainly mean that Toby is not playing the good Business Man. Think about it - He would attract alot more fools with cheaper prices. No one would think twice about spending $20-$50 to save their souls. In fact more people would doubt using the service because of its higher pricing.

Its is undeniable that Toby's claims seem far fetched or revolutionary and yet the possibility is exciting. If you are serious abou your spiritual growth you would understand that even if Toby is gifted - he is not God, and if he is a hoax, by God he will be judged.
kath
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 | 12:45 PM
is there anyway to activate dna -by myself without anybodys assistance?
words ,mantras ,cretain sounds -similar to that of kundalani??
please if anybody can POSITIVLY -assist me ,,
are the answers in the akashic records ----?
just need answers to many questions -
how can i astral travel ?
do the springs in the bed interfer with natural magnetics therefore interfering with oobes ?
what is that sound --those incredibly uncomtable feelings in body while lucid dreaming --but im awake --- paradox?
also inregards to physicall apperance changing with dna activation --my physical apperance changes when im in a hightend state of awareness due to substanc-people dont recognise me -
so i know its possible -
also regarding amazing sync - ive manifested some incredible events -through a mantra -
of perfect timing - always geting green traffic light ,always choosing the best food ,having a pic of my friend in new zealand and manifesting him -a boy i hadnt seen in 5years-
but still --
the auras ,the astral worlds ,the miltidimentional reality is not experinced as daily life -
therfore im in quest -for develpoment need answers -
please somebody who has attaind results in action as daily life please write -
thanks
Mitch K
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 | 01:03 PM
Many answers can be found at ascension2000.com

mk
mich
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 | 08:05 PM
Hi there Kath.
you are obviously very self aware, you hold much faith also.I believe we are devinely guided -
"Ask & you shall recieve"
Oracle
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 | 06:21 AM
did anyone read david icke book
how do you know toby is not part of a conspiracy
Sheetal Magan
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 | 02:18 PM
Oracle - explain further.
Honestly i think that if Toby is a fake, well the law of karma does exist and it is inescapable, so let the universe sort him out.
And if he's true, i hope his work will work for me, I've just booked two sessios.

Kath - I have also experienced the phenomenon you're talking about interms of appearance.
I'd love to know more about you're practices.
Get in touch?
nick
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 | 03:06 AM
only truth is given freely
the only way to activate your dna is too see through the illusion of 3d
do not judge do not fear
just have respect and compassion for all life
understanding there is no good or evil
just polar opposites trying to balance within a three dimensional contextual construct
act and think from the heart
only through compassion will the illusion manifest
Charybdis
in Hell
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 | 07:54 AM
So the way to achieve DNA Perfection is to smoke a lot of pot?
nick
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 | 02:56 AM
the way to achieve enlightenment is through love.
through thoughts and actions and experiences
there are no extra points for being smart with the mind
only a greater understanding-an attempt to get to that place where u aren't questioning
just living -just acting in a way that works for you
the only way to raise your dna/vibration is by acceptance of experiences , even experiences you don't like, without judgement
if you put up limits around something it will change and stay with you until you accept it for what it is,something you created and are having trouble getting past,once you embrace it and love it even though you know you don't like it-it will leave you and you will draw to you better experiences more in tune with the love you give off.that's how your dna/vibration/frequency raises by being accepting/including of all experiences from an understanding point of view- believe me i searched for this illusive enlightenement for nearly four years- and found you can only get there by changing you
try and love it all
this helped me -
http://www.lcars.eu.org/sarah.peter.nelson/lazyman/lazyman.html
First timer here
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 | 11:32 AM
Hi everyone,
Interesting stuff. The first question I always ask of these 'spiritual people' like Toby is, why are they after $$? I emailed another such person and got a sacarstic reply. If they are sincere in wanting to help the earth and its ppl evolve faster, ask for donations. And I searched the Internet and could not find anyone doing it for free??? Conspiracy?

But does it mean theis DNA activation is not true just cos of these ppl?
VOR
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 | 09:34 AM
All those of you seeking enlightenment, may be interested in the following procedure. I swear I've found this to work. I promise the clouds will clear, your eyes will open and the truth shall be revealed.

It is as simple as this:

Apply your computer monitor to your forehead forcefully while repeating the mantra -- Eye Mann Ee Dyot

I can promise you, if you do this repeatedly, you will soon attain enlightenment.

To David B. and a few others: keep up the good fight; ignorance is a powerful enemy but not one, I hope, that cannot be overcome with patience and true education.

Btw, I provide this information freely. However, if you'd like to spend some of your hard-earned cash and achieve the same results, by all means, please send me a wire transfer or cheque or cash or heck, I'll even settle for a toaster oven 😊
Smerk
in to mischief
 Member
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 | 07:53 PM
:lol: VOR.
First Timer Here
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 | 09:15 PM
VOR,
You have been calling yourself an idiot in front of the monitor and now you are teaching others to do it! Amazing enlightenment!
Knight
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 | 10:36 AM
The way to enlightment is through ourselves, if Toby can awaken himself why can't we? There should be no short cuts. If we are to achieve a better understanding of the great infinity of the comos we should look in ourselves. Now paying 100 or so bucks to get there is a small price to pay don't get me wrong. But doing something on your own can be all the more gratifing. I know there are those who have acheived a better understanding to certian stages of enlightment by being 'given' enlightment. But they were corrupted by their own power of their subconscious and natural greed. I have always felt out of place in the world there's no mistaking that. I search for an answer and always look for power. But to achieve a higher touch of the world around you is to analyze and understand it.

Humans have barely begun to touch the surface of the infinity of the cosmos. And looking within us for the capacity to search for that understanding is a good way to go. But if I am to achieve a higher state of mind, I'd do so through myself. I've always felt a 'barrier' of sorts blocking me from my power. And what Toby writes about suits the logical explaination for why I cannot touch that power. But what power I have been able to touch is what I got through blood, sweet and tears. And there's nothing more gratifying than that. So if we truly seek a understand to enlightment we must start in ourselves by ourselves.
MaryY
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 | 10:47 PM
I just want to say thank you to all the people who have posted on this subject to try and get through to others that the notion of DNA activation is false. I have been a seeker all my life and have been bothered the past several months by someone trying to contact me about this. I have avoided contact but as fate would have it, I met someone else who again tried to get me into this nonsense. We had been sharing our intuitive impressions of many things, and when she asked me what I felt about this DNA activator, I told her I felt this person would try to sell me an expensive activation and try to entrap me into the whole thing. She told me she had met the woman and indeed, she is out several hundred bucks now. I am moving to the "cradle of civilization" where this person is supposedly going, and quite frankly, although I feel going will be a spiritually enhancing experience, I was afraid that rather then helping me to be attuned, this person would hinder me with their agenda, financial and otherwise. It has been disturbing to see this kind of thing going on. Red flags and warnings should be going up when someone claims (for a fee!) they can open you up spiritually. That is nonsense! If anything worked or helped anyone, it was because that person had done all the work themselves and the "activation" gave them a kind of seal of approval or permission to manifest their own spiritual fruits. What we need to progress is available to us by natural means, and we didn't need someone else (for a fee) to allow us our own growth (or to help our DNA functioning) for millions of years before, so why now? People are buying into it because they think they can get attainment and a great spiritual high - quick - in this high speed world. What sickens me is that these activators are masquerading as having a special power to give a person what they already possess. A big ego boost for them. They hide behind Big Vocabulary and nonsensical verbiage, fly in the face of scientific facts, and say that people aren't "ready" to understand, that they aren't in the right spiritual place to "get it" and all that garbage. That is so wrong. I just hope that anyone who is reading this who has been hurt or felt less by not buying this or by having tried it and did not get any effects, and was told it was your fault because you weren't prepared and whatever long-winded explanation was given to you, that you will realize it is total nonsense and all spiritual growth, energy, and healing, etc...of the highest orders are your birthright by being alive and having a soul and all you need to do is ask and have a loving heart...to the higher power and to yourself! There is no easy fix to make life perfect and surely there is a lot of great suffering on this planet, but no one should act like they are needed as a go-between because your DNA is not "activated" without them, that is completely false. People need to give themselves permission to be in a good spiritual place by themselves, because when someone else says you need them to get there, right away they are hindering you.
Sheetal Magan
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 | 06:48 AM
I have just recently had an auric clearing with Toby. He only sent me report three weeks later. At first i did not feel anyhting and felt stupid for being conned out of my money. But after a few days i had a strange fever without any other fluey items, i also started having the weirdest dreams and this strange obsession with jello - just ordinary packet jelly everyday. After a week or two these strange symptoms disappeared.

Then when i received the report and read through it, everything seemed quite accurate in terms of the ailmetns i was suffering from as well as the fact that the report was quite comprehensive spanning 5-6 pages long. To top things off he said that a good way to check if the auric clearing was successful was if you had a divine fever, which is the energy field burning off excess energy, strange dreams are often noted and furthermore(the most uncanny part) he recommended a clacium supplement to facilitate healing.. and the most readily available form of calcium is JELLO.
A little too uncanny for me.. I didnt really believe at first but after the strange co-incedences and the fact that i am beginning to feel more positive and powerful leads me to believe that its not all a hoax.
No other satisfied client of toby's has made a post on this site, everything else had been disatisfaction and speculation making it really an inaccurate account of the issue at hand.
JBK22
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 | 10:23 AM
Sheetal,
After 13 pages, now I do feel more enlightened on the subject. I am grateful for your amazingly insightful posts. Synchronistic indeed that the very positive experience insight that you were looking for turned out to your own direct experience, and now you offer that to others. You seem like a wise sage beyond your years....
To those on this forum who are not quite ready to imagine the scope of our human potential at this moment of unprecedented transformation, and are hindered by the limitations of the ego and the fallibility of perception, I offer the more scientifically minded of you this quote by Albert Einstein:
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his(her) eyes are closed"
In the next days, I too will schedule an appointment with Toby......It is an inexplicable inner resonance that I trust. I share your "question" that this spiritual vision can be used in direct material gain such as stock market,lottery etc., as I always felt that it would not align with the activation of our spiritual powers. Manifestation of abundance, yes. There is much I dont yet understand, however as a spiritual alchemist, with a progressing awareness, working within the human potential movement, It seems my spirit is ready. I say that because as I continue to learn about the subtle realms of energy, I wont be so apt to expect gross changes immediately, but more able to detect the subtle yet transformative shifts over time...or not. We who think of ourselves as spiritual scientists will experiment as we are pulled towards our destiny...
I am finishing my year doing medical aid work in Afghanistan, will return briefly to California before resting an healing in southern Thailand at a most special mystery school, I call a second home. I must add that having a passion for world travel, has currently place South Africa very high on my list. I have friends there and hope to visit in 2006. I understand that South Africa is becoming quite the magnet and vortice for leading edge healing arts and the emerging spiritual awareness that you speak of. I am so excited and I am already creating future memories of my visit. I look foward to seeing more posts from you as I check back from time to time over the next few weeks and Toby, if you are reading this....I will be in touch soon, and hope you can fascilitate me before Christmas.
Sheetal, thank you for your magic and the inspiration for me to leave these thoughts on this forum.
For everyone, I leave one final quote; unknown author: "You can not have a hearts desire without the means to fulfill it"......

Love and light......j
Gsumonk
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 | 12:05 PM
I am a healer, Universal information is free. It is not up to Toby to charge he should instead teach them. We have a saying in my buisiness. Scratch my back I'll scratch yours.
Toby will throw terms like Indigo 3 and 12 strand DNA, 10 invisible. He is a 2 strand loop. I would take a one on one Pepsi challange with him any day of the week. After reading over his material it is clear he is a very yound soul. I have never refussed to heal anyone who could not afford my work. To be honest I have found some humans to be so kind I take nothing even when offered.
If Jesus were here rigth now he would Slap Toby. Jesus never charged for his services nor should we. He has downed former clients, changed his wording on other forums and has used
Sheetal Magan
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 | 01:10 PM
Thank you so much JBK22 for you positive comments. You seem like a very wise soul yourself and i hope you have a fantastic time in South Africa when you come by..we look forward to it.

I started having very strange healing abilities at some point during this year but i am inexperienced and though my chakras did open i have no awareness of how to maintain that opening and i believe it did soon close. That said it stands to reason that people of all walks of life can be healers.

Toby has a business background and has acquired healing abilities. It is part of his make up. Also he is not the only DNA "Activator" that charges for his services, infact in my comprehensive search i did not find a single person who offered free services. Also Toby never said he would turn away those who could not afford it. In fact he said that he takes more and more people for free of late..
It disturbs me that he is isolated and ridiculed.And i think the fact that he presented himself on the site and tried to make his contribution does mean that he is not afraid. Also he appears with his wife on a clip on the soul wisdom website,yet again showing that he believes in what he is doing, he does not remain the anonymous con. He has also introduced that he is about to start doing video conferencing with his patients instead of just sending them email reports so that it is more personal.Why would he make this work the centre of his life and reputation if he was just a hoax? Would it not be easier to simply remain an anonymous phantom,stealing people's money?

Also we do not sit around condemning medical doctors, homeopaths, reiki masters or any other form of healer because they charge for their services even if those services may save lives.

We feel entitled to condemn Toby largely because we do not wholey except or understand his work. is largely a leap of faith and like all matters of faith you either believe or you do not. Some of us resonate with Toby and his work. Those who condemn Toby, especially those with a healing background - it just seems too narrow minded to be so opinionated.Who are we to judge the purpose of Toby's life or work and presume to know gods will?

I mean "Jesus would slap him"... really now.. Jesus didnt charge but he probably wouldnt judge just the same, least of all condemn. Money is just potentiality, even leading metaphysical doctors liek deepak chopra insist that spirituality is no longer about becoming immersed in spirituality and negating materialism but finding the balance in both.
MaryY
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 | 10:19 PM
I am also a healer and a channeler, I received my gifts directly from the Light as I was called and the gifts were freely given and received; I use my gifts the same in turn, as called - and I know what "I" give is not from me. That is part of the problem I have, those claiming the energy is coming from them. My higher self is the very self that feels there is something not quite right here.

It is possible to channel helping energy to wherever needed...looks like in this instance energy is being given to the DNA. What effect this has depends on the subject and upon the giver, especially if they are generating their own energy or transmitting Light that is not their own. In all cases those who are aware it is not their own make it a point to explain this, it is crucial, as it is pure and far above the personal energy. The personal energy contains personal intent and Light contains the intent of the Light which is beyond the human ability to comprehend.

So energy is given to the DNA, and subtle energy may be beyond scientific measure at this time, but science is getting closer. The idea that there are other strands affected not recognized by science is utterly unbelieveable and is probably not worth hanging onto as a concept. We must be grounded in the real world. The real and spiritual worlds are one in the same. What exists is axiomatically scientifically possible. These worlds cannot be divorced.

So there are three possibilities when giving personal energy to the DNA: 1. Nothing 2. Help 3. Harm - in my opinion this is very much like a shaktipat, if indeed it is not directly that, and it is laden with all the uncertainties of the same.

My point here is that this is not a miracle cure, it is an uncertain practice like everything else, only thing certain which I know of is the direct receiving of pure Light. So why is there this know-it-all attitude, when there should be cautious exploration and questions, questions, questions, as that is how we seek, right? And why are there all of these tiresome buzzwords and insider-only vocabulary instead of plain english when we are not sure why there are scientific contradictions and mixed results, and we are dealing with something uncertain that people would like to understand.

All the blaming or praising needs to stop and all the hard questioning and answering needs to start.
Sheetal Magan
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 03:22 AM
I have to admit that i do find his charges disturbing. It creates an immediate distrust apart from the New Age Concepts.Why charge at all? Possibly because you dedicate your every waking moment to your work? But then the arguement why not charge less? Toby claims to receive an email a minute.And i assure you his report from the auric clearing was very comprehensive and not as unoriginal as a previously unsatisfied client of his would have us believe with his postings on this site.

But i will not negate the possibility of it simply because i do not wholey understand it. For months i searched the internet tryig to find information about my experiences and only when my experience intensified did I come across Toby and his services became available.And i wholey believed it until i discovered this site and it embedded some doubt in my mind. But i'll admit it is not for everyone. IF you dont resonate with it don't try it, but if you do then i think that its a good idea to see if it works for you. I think the problem is also the claims he makes, instead of wildly magical powers he should admit that the activations are limited by individuality and individual spiritual development.

It might be a new age hoax,and if it is i am sure Toby will suffer dearly in due course for his actions, but entertain the magical possibility that it is sincere?
I personally can only report positive life changes since the auric clearing and a clearer perspective of reality. I was obsessed with a previous relationship that entailed betrayal and since the auric clearing i feel so free from it, that alone will have been worth all the trouble for me, because it was stunting me. Toby picked up on this and several other relevant things. I dont understand why anyone would go to so much trouble, reply to all my many many emails and questions without atleast sincere intent...Do you?
chuckiecow
Member
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 09:21 AM
I have just purchased an auric clearing from Toby through Paypal, and am looking forward to the session with him.

I have to admit that at this point, I still have some doubt, but in general, I feel positive about his work.

In defense of him, and all other healers who charge a fee for their services, I think its only fair that they charge, especially people like Toby who do this full time. Think about it. How else are they going to feed themselves and keep themselves alive to continue to help other people with their gifts?
Zan Dazzil
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 12:44 PM
Forgive me for being ingnorant but...I've been doing a lot of searching on this DNA activation. I know many people that believe strongly in it. I however, do not. I can't find any scientific evidence that shows this is even possible. It's not my intention to convince anyone of anything. I would like to be convince my self though. I would love to believe that this kind of thing is possible. Really, I do. So Toby Alexander, if you're reading please help me out here. You stated (and I qoute) "I have done dozens of sessions for medical doctors, scientists, and even geneticists to 'prove' to them that it works". That's great, that's fantastic. Please, please share with us where they have posted their scientific findings. I'm dying to read about these studies. I'm sure any doctor, scientist or geneticist would be proud of their published studies regarding the validity of DNA activation. I can't wait to read all about it. In fact, the minute I'm finished reading I'm going to run right out and get my DNA activated. Oh, and by the way, you're an expert so I assume you also guarantee your work. After all, most professionals do.
Mitch K
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 | 07:12 AM
To Sheetal

I believe your insertion: "...a previously unsatisfied client of his would have us believe with his postings on this site." applies to me. If this is so, are insinuating that I have made something up, especially about Toby's reports?

The reports were actually vague, and after all disregarded even by Toby as being not important, after I had questioned his accuracy.

For those who would like to see for themselves and then judge eventually, I'm going to post the reports I received from Toby on the Internet, soon. I'll let you know.

And, by the way, Sheetal, your statements that law of karma would apply to Toby, are simply illogical, since being his advocate you must believe that he is en expert in removing such.

mk
Sheetal Magan
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 | 07:47 AM
Well in my experience they were comprehensive, am i now to negate my own experiences just because i am skeptical? (and believe me i still have my doubts)
You have your experience and i too have mine, but i cannot understand why your report would have been so vague, only toby would know and isnt that just the whole problem.
but matter of factly apart from the disapproval about his charges (which in many ways i support) i have not found any conclusive evidence that he is false either. So forgive me for being optimistic/naive and chosing to believer.
JBK22
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 | 09:09 AM
Sheetal,
A few thoughts to share. Most importantly, is that you do have awareness of how to maintain the opening that you have experienced. It is simple....be open and you shall remain open. Trust your intuition and begin to become comfortable with your power. It would not serve you well to believe that something soon closed. Your reality will mirror your thoughts....this you know well. Your awareness and opening is happening....allow it....be grateful for it.

The money dilemma is tricky. Our current monetary system is inherently problematic, however it is an expression of love energy when used correctly and most have a pretty dysfunctional relationship with money. Right intention and right livelyhood are Dharma concepts that resonate highly with me...I am not so concerned with these practitioners charging if right intention is practiced, but I feel that in order to take we must in turn give. We must volunteer, donate and serve. Keeping this balance....this flow, should insure that the laws of attraction will continue to provide us with all the abundance we can imagine. Only the individual knows in his or her heart what they are doing. For the rest of us, we must follow our intuition and our logic and make choices, some in the name of experimentation. Untill we evolve and transcend the current system, money is an inextricable part of our lives......this too will change. As far as How much? Well, there is something known as perceived worth which I think is valid.

Check out these two websites. I think you will find them interesting:
I really like the way this site is presented. It hits on a lot of concepts I resonate with. Im thinking of scheduling with them:

http://potentiation.net/

This second site really interests me. In fact for some time I have wanted to make a trip to S.Africa to find this woman. Perhaps you could investigate it and let me know what you find. I have a feeling about this. It might be very important for you and the information really provides a mirror perspective for you:

http://www.healthjourneys.com/cgi-bin/wwwboard2/messages/792.html

If you like, drop me a note at: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Love and light, j
giove
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 | 01:51 PM
Hello Everyone,
I experienced Toby' four sessions last month and I definitely felt something during the sessions, spaciness, insomnia, more energy. I'd like to mention that when I found Toby' site last year, I was really going through intense inner hell, I had in mind to separate from my husband, I had difficulties at work, I had a huge issue with guilt, I was and still am going through the middle age crisis. Dna activation and these new healing techniques represented for me a tremendous hope, an elegant way out of emotional misery. I've always been a truth seeker and I have always sensed that there were more in life than what we can see. For me Theta Healing could very well have been a way to reconnect to Joy, Love and UNDERSTANDING of how things work and what is our purpose in this life. Well after hoping so much and after a lot of exitement and high expectations, I must admit that I am disappointed, I expected so much more, may be interesting dreams, may be having access to the universal mind, may be meeting my divine higher self, may be stop being that shy and insecure (I'm a bit like the "Bridget Jones" type, clumsy, shy and blond, you see what I mean but I don't like to be that way!!) may be laugh and take things easy. I expected such a grand trip and here I am with the same old me, with the same insecurities. What I gained may be is more confidence but even that is fragile, people and circumstances can still easily destabilize me. I think that Toby Alexander is sincere though, I am sure that he has special abilities and that he is truly willing to help others out but his reports did not touch my heart. I'm glad that some had positive experiences (like Sheetal), it proves that Toby is not a false healer, it proves that it works. Yes Toby Alexander seems to be a very young soul but this is not always a bad thing. And yes I think he is very expensive. Well my impressions are mixed, I am disappointed but I don't want to regard Theta healing as a big illusion. By the way BRIAN, how long did it take before you could feel some changes after your sessions??. That's my testimonial for now, I hope it will change.
mickeyB
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 | 03:58 AM
Go read The book children of the matrix
Alice in wonderland no one needs toby he is just an illusion keeps you in the game
Matt
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 | 02:59 PM
Hi everyone

I just wanted to say that this type of work is indeed real. The level of how it will help all depends on you because if you dont believe that it will work then you're creating energy blockages for yourself. I think it's better to learn the process and have a deeper understanding than to get someone to do it for you. Either one of those things will only be beneficial if you're ready. The truth resonates within your heart if you decide to listen to it. Our minds are very powerful tools, so much so that they have taken over. You are not your mind, you are something much much greater. It's all a matter of remembering that divine perfection that is all of us. Some people say that they're not "into it", it's only cos of a limited understanding of it all. Everyone is "into it" whether they like it or not cos they are alive. Honestly, if you start asking yourself the questions, the answers will come. Just try asking yourselves questions about life and uncover deeper meanings and understanding of it. Just try asking, what have you got to lose ?? Nothing and you have so so much to gain, you will achieve such an amazing sense of peace and joy. I know many of you have to see evidence before you believe, more often that not tho, seeing is not believing, believing is seeing.
With love and compassion.
Juniperorb
Member
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 | 01:03 AM
Hi all,

Too often people can be hyper-judgmental!
Presently physisist`s believe that we perceive 10% of the known world (reality) through our five senses. In other words 90% of what is proven to exist we cannot touch, taste, hear, see or smell. Obviously with the invention of the microscope et al science has proven the existence of single-celled organisms, diseases, elements etc. That got me thinking- if we only perceive 10% of what we know exists, then including what hasn`t been discovered, how much of reality do we actually sense?
Now, to my anti-reiki/energy field friends, a proposition! Firstly, I am a law graduate, a man of facts> Roughly a year-and-a-half ago I went to a reiki attunement. A non-believer at the time, I decided to at least give it a go. To cut to the chase, I am now a Usui reiki master and I practice chi-kung daily. (Chi-kung is related to tai-chi and kung fu. 1 in 12 Chinese practice chi kung. Presently it is not widely known in the west, but is rapidly growing:)
My point is this- if you do not believe in this "energy-field hocas-pocas," (as I didn`t)then try it out! You may be pleasantly surprised. Commenting on what you do not know or havn`t experienced is foolish. I cannot prove any of this to you- it is beyond the mind, transcendental. You can only prove it to yourself! You cannot feel my inner-energy only your own. A wise man once said, every time you judge someone or an event you limit yourself- observe, research and study all you can, then make your judgment. It should be the last move you make.
In regards to Toby Alexander`s DNA activation`s, I don`t know if he is for real or not! However, many here are throwing stones without knowing if this works or not. From what I have read, many are angry about the price. Why doesn`t he do it for free etc? Think- if he carried out his services for free would anybody stay on his site for more than two minutes? If this actually works, then 400 dollars (or three nights on the beer) is miniscule.
So maybe this works and maybe it doesn`t, what a revolution if it does- how do we KNOW?
Mitch K
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 | 01:24 PM
Hi all,

The reports I've mentioned in my previous post can be viewed at:
http://www.fancydna.blogspot.com

By describing them as vague, I meant that they're not really distinct. Otherwise they are quite impressive, they're fantastic.

In all four reports, there are only two, and questionable, references on a distinct side.
One contained in Auric Clearing Report, and the other in DNA Activation 1 Report (emphasis added):
"... it's great that we could get this cleared for you SO EARLY ON IN LIFE.", and
"...This will allow you to start accessing your higher sensory perception and should also increase your metabolism to help you LOSE WEIGHT."

However, that only made me more sceptical about the validity of the DNA Activation process.

mk
Donna
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 | 04:28 AM
Well, my husband and I are considering the sessions. We haven't decided yet.

I've managed to activate a couple of DNA strands on my own, just being exposed to several energy sources, such as Rife equipment (I have a Rife type instrument), PAP-IMI machine energy, zappers, a lot of orgone producing devices in my home called orgonite and an orgonite cloudbuster outside, living from the heart, detoxing heavy metals, killing any implants with neodynium magnets, using Alex Chiu magnets, and more. I was mostly doing all of the above for my health and anti-aging, and the DNA strands that activated was kind of a side benefit. We verified it by dowsing with a pendulum, muscle, and adept psychics. The times it happened was when I was asleep and OBE. I felt struck by etheric lightening and always saw a bright flash of light each time. Best way I can describe it.

I already have some natural abilites, as does my husband.

To Matt, Mich, Bryan, Toby and a couple of others, whose names I can't remember, I can already feel the differences of frequencies in the posts. Your posts are of higher frequency. I can feel it by the electrical tingling of my hands and arms. Thank you for your encouraging posts. 😉
Donna
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 | 05:00 AM
"We verified it by dowsing with a pendulum, muscle, and adept psychics."

The word muscle was supposed to be muscle testing. I meant to say muscle testing. Sorry.
Sheetal Magan
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 | 01:36 AM
Iam very interested in what you have spoken about donna but the process sounds very involved. HOw does one go about acquiring such equipment and using your methods for activating DNA and anti aging? I would be intersted to do so myself if you could offer indepth guidance.

Also could you elaborate on the abilities you and your husband have begun experiencing after activation?
Juniperorb
Member
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 | 11:11 AM
Hi all,

Going back through parts of this forum I noted some slack comments about "Indigo`s". Just a quick note about "The Indigo Conspiracy" - there isn`t one! I was born an indigo. However, I don`t care for the term as it denotes categorisation and separation- indigo`s are special et al. Nonsense, EVERYBODY IS SPECIAL!
Indigo`s naturally work from fourth and fifth dimensional consciousness in a three dimensional world (unity consciousness {WE A and we are all directly responsible for creating our own realities).
Indigo`s love everybody. We love people that don`t like us, thus we can appear gullible and naive. We try to hold The Bigger Picture All THE TIME through contentment. I say contentment, not happiness. Happiness and sadness are states of mind i.e Today you buy a 5 Series BMW and you are happy. Next week you crash it and you are sad.
Contentment is a state of being, not mind. Most people get "out of their minds" on drink /drugs etc. Why not try yoga, transcendental meditation or chi kung for a change:)
So anybody can be an indigo. Just choose it, or don`t! Live whatever way you choose to live.
Many are now being born with "Crystal" consciousness- these operate out of 6th and 7th dimensional existance. Intend that your children be of higher consciousness than you!
So there you have it. Language and terms mean nothing concrete. They are merely symbols which we constantly change. Choose to live as you wish. If you are content with life as it is, great. If you are not content with your life as it is, great- YOU CAN CHANGE IT!
"If you can taste both victory and defeat and treat both these imposters just the same!"

Namaste.

P.S Very interesting to read further about Rife`s technology, his life and innovations Donna- thanks!
Paul Reese
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 | 11:12 PM
Regarding DNA Activation - Toby Alexander, founder of dnaperfection.com, currently resides in Brazil. I've personally known Mr. Alexander for over a decade, and I can attest only to his past accomplishments as I am not a spiritual guru. I
Charybdis
in Hell
 Member
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 | 07:57 AM
Paul, you raise an interesting point. If I happened to be the worlds greatest heart surgeon and I suddenly started telling people that I'd invented a device that allowed me to teleport object instantaneously to the other side of the universe, would you believe me? After all, I'm only violating the known laws of physics in an area that has nothing to do with my prior field.

Toby is a con artist, pure and simple. Unfortunately, there are plenty of desperate and/or stupid people out there willing to give him money. If he can truly do what he says, he only has to prove it. Why should we take him seriously if he can't be bothered to make a scientifically testable demonstration?
Paul Reese
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 | 11:39 AM
Charybdis,

Thanks for your comments - I certainly understand why you might be skeptical. My basic point is simply that greatness can't be faked for years on end, and integrity is usually a constant throughout a person's life. So in your example, if the greatest cardiologist suddenly made a claim that seemed outrageous, it stands to reason that if he took the time to become the greatest heart surgeon, was respected by his peers, and was known for having integrity throughout his lifetime, it's possible that his claim may be credible, however silly it seemed at the time.

As far as being a con-artist, I will reluctantly share with you that the fee Toby charges for his time is really peanuts in his financial world. Con-artists need or want money, or just enjoy screwing people. Mr. Alexander fits none of these categories, trust me.

Regarding a scientifically provable demonstration, it's my understanding many of these concepts can and have been demonstrated (via spectrum analysis), but like many new fields of science, there may not be sufficient measuring devices for this type of work
Charybdis
in Hell
 Member
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 | 12:04 PM
Why should I trust you Paul? I know you only as a shill for Toby. You have no more respectability online than any other person.

200 years ago you could have proved the cellular makeup of the body. The technology had existed for centuries to construct a microscope. However, the more important point is this - The people who proclaimed all these scientific wonder in the past were perfectly capable of proving what they had discovered. Toby is not. The reason so many scientists were persecuted or derided was because of the superstitious religions that were, and are still, in power. Toby is not facing a refusal to believe the evidence he has provided, he has simpley never provided any evidence at all and requires us to believe him at his word. He has never demonstrated any advanced 'powers' under a scientifically controlled test. Ever. And before you argue that maybe our science just isn't capable of understanding or measuring his powers, remember that science is all we have. If we abandon it then all we have is superstition again. Something which Toby plays heavily on, unfortunately.
Paul Reese
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 | 12:22 PM
Fair enough, bud. I read through the entire string today and noticed that I'm not the only person who has known Toby personally for many years and has affirmed him on this site. I stumbled across this string in an effort to research more about the Maharic Seal, as I am a spiritual novice. When I saw people who were writing insulting comments without personal knowledge of the person they were talking about, I felt compelled to write. This will be my last entry, as it's not necessary to convince you or anyone else of the viablity of this work.

Toby doesn't need your money; I don't need your trust. And, unlike Toby who is trying to help people, I'm not that evolved and really don't care about you all.

Although, if you were to really take the time to ponder it, you may it intersting to note that while most on this site utilize user names that are conveniently anonymous, Toby and I are real people that use the names we were born and raised with.

Regards,

Paul
Billah
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 | 04:39 PM
I heard about Toby Alexander from a link I accidentally clicked once on Amazon.com.

The more I look around for evidence that the guy isnt doing what he says hes doing, the more I think hes the real deal.

Im defineately one of these Indigo Children, and ill be doing all of the sessions EVENTUALLY, its just the price is a little steep.

Anyway though, just out of curiosity, I tried DNA Perfections address on Earth Google:

DNA Perfection
MATT
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 | 05:50 PM
Hi all
Why do people get so upset with the possibility of being more ?? Many people on this post get quite defensive about the whole thing. It is your ego that is doing this to stop you from seeing truth. Truth resonates within all of our hearts. The things we can achieve with dna activation and the process itself is just the tip of the iceberg of what we're capable of. At least ask yourself, what if ?? What if this is all true ?? What if we are infinitely more than what we have become ?? What if the truth is eternally better than the lies we as a society have created reality to be ?? The one and true purpose each of us have, whether conciously aware of it or not is to be back at one with the Creator which is all and everything. Everyone will achieve this purpose once they are ready. In the meantime, just ask yourself, what if ?? I can guarantee the answer is far better than you can ever imagine !!
With Love and Compassion
ishkae
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 | 06:05 PM
Hello Everyone-

Just a word to the wise- don't allow anyone else to "actiavet" your DNA FOR you- I wouldn't let people ("qualifications" or not) touch my body- WHY would you let them work on your SOUL? Just seems a little- icky, no? http://www.azuitepress.com is the best way to go- you can use anything you find on the website, copyrighted or not, it's meant for your health and benefit- which you use YOURSELF- no outside energy fields are going to mingle or mix with yours. Or read Voyagers (1 or 2) by Ashayana Deane. I'd definetly recommend asking people in your community about it- I'm sure they'd share what info they have. LEARN about your own soul before you do anything TO it. Don't give your power away....... lotus Love, Ishkae
Susie Linquist
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 | 09:22 PM
I want to comment on what Brownangel said. Your message sits very well with me. I agree that Toby is helping many people, and I thank him for that. I however want people to know that they don't have to pay others, they can do all this themselves. I am a volunteer for thecuredrive.org. We teach people how to cure themselves. People in every country are curing Flu, cancer, diabetes, depression, etc. go to thecuredrive.org. start curing stuff and help us get the word out. we need more people like you.
startech
Member
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 | 05:34 AM
All this talk of being "back at being one with the creator". Maybe the creator doesn't want you back and that's why you are out here and now must create your own destiny and take responsibility for your self and what you do and where you go. If I was the creator, wow, there's a lot of people I sure wouldn't want back, no matter how cutesie wootsie they make themselves look, no matter how many times they repeat their boring prayers and songs and mantras. Oh wait, that's right. I am the Creator. Look, I gave you guys all the tools you need, they're right inside of you. And you are not alone. Like, I created lots of you to help one another, so start learning from everyone and be grateful for everyone that comes into your life, just be careful (but smile) at those who will try to introduce negativity (it's not real)into your path because they are upset with their own, especially those who preach their way is "the best way". Know what the best way is? The one that's right inside of you. Each of you. That's why you got the DNA kids. For your individuality. Not to be like her or him. You don't need anyone's approval or validation. It's right there inside of you. Grow up. There are many excellent teachers on your planet right now. Use them all. That's why they are there. No need to put anybody down. Only I can do that anyway. Nobody is ripping anybody off. When you start to fear that, then its time for you to look at your fear, and make some changes in your value system. Find the source of your fear. You will find it's not the source of your creativity. You are already with your creator, dummies! You never left. That's just part of the fear. Wake up and start creating, for you never left me, I am always with you. Realize it more and more each day and the fears will pass away. Have fun and enjoy Toby and all the teachers, because you are one too.
MATT
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 | 09:04 PM
Hi Startec
Just wanted to express a couple of quick comments.
All I was talking about at being back at one with the Creator was the Atonement and RECOGNISING that we are. Your whole posting resonated very well with me tho and I'm sure I dont need to tell you that you are correct about everything that you said. My sincere thanks to you my Father, Brother and Son.
Mua
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 | 12:57 AM
New agers. This is not to sound judgmental in the slightest: please go rehab yourselves at http://snakelyone.com/12step.htm and you will suddenly feel like a much more down-to-earth person. Suddenly, the old critical analytical abilities that atrophied or never fully developed will begin to activate. You will be able to see through and 'beyond the veil' of manipulation, mind control, and cult proselytizing at NO CHARGE. ABSOLUTELY FREE.
If you are ready to move out of 'spiritual kindergarden' and become a spiritual adult, stop looking to bullshit queens like Ashayana Dean, J.Z.Knight, Kryon, Dru, Toby etc. whoever happens to be the latest edition of the new age megalomaniac guru virus infector. ALL THEY WANT IS YOUR MONEY! Instead, look inside yourself. Realise that YOU need to take better care of You. That will make all the difference. So you want to try it out and see if all this works. DO IT. It's your right, but why go spending $100000, to prove what and to whom! The only thing it proves it that you think you can just buy your rights to spiritual knowledge. The best spiritual insight comes from inside and takes personal practice. You might be very lucky and chance upon someone unscrupulous who can give you some help. This person will just do it for you because they are compassionate. However, please realise THERE ARE CHARLATANS EVERYWHERE IN EVERY FIELD especially in the new age/spiritual realms, due to the lack of objective proof. I know because I suffered intensely. I was once as guilty of this as many of you.

When I was at the end of my line, and tired of being ripped off, desperate for a solution I did find something that helped me. I didn't cost anything except a bit of time everyday, but it really helped me, it was a form of indigenous hawaiian prayer. Everyone is different in their approach, and probably this method would just be too hoaky for everyone here to take seriously, some might even chuckle and laugh at it, but for me I can say it helped, here's a link if anyone is interested.

http://ulbobo.com/keola/hooponopono/ho'o.html
Mua
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 | 01:06 AM
Oops, the link doesn't seem to function but if you want to access it,
just google: An Outline Of The Ancient Huna Pule Ho'oponopono
trish
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 | 06:53 AM
Mua is correct. The genetic experiements that took place in Atlantis that altered the human DNA were very real. HOWEVER...this is a self-correcting creation that we live in, and there is nothing other than the Grace of God that one needs to reactivate their DNA. Actually, even just remembering how it was BEFORE the alterations begins the reconnecting process. Awareness,prayer, intention, and focus is all you need to heal. "Buy the truth and sell it not."
Peace,
Trish
Trish
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 | 07:35 AM
I just want to add a few more things. I took a look at the Theta Healing site. That's a wonderful story...but PLEASE somebody tell me why these people charge so much money for this service! They should cost no more than any other counseling session. It makes me wonder if perhaps some of these people were the ones involved in the DNA experiments in the first place, and now they have come back to either make it right because they realized they participated in a horrible experiement that defiled God's beautiful creation (the Adam Kadmon), or because--since they know that now is the time for healing and there's nothing they can do about that--they choose to capitalize on it. There are systems out there such as A Course in Miracles, the Kabbalah, etc. that can help in the healing process that may involve minimal expense (such as buying a book or whatever), but not hundreds or thousands of dollars. My discernment of people's true nature has shown to be correct almost every time, so that's why I wanted to share what I am picking up psychically on this.
Thanks,
Trish
Mua
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 | 07:38 AM
Ooops what an embarassing but seemingly humorous freudian slip,
I meant scrupulous not unscrupulous. Not to be such a cynic, but it would seem that you are far more likely to meet the latter in the the popular new age, as well as monastic, "spiritual' retreat environments.
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