Topper.and WM.what r u implying?what business do u have to do with anything. what do u say about ur nonsense talk?who is chuck by the way?

this thread is as stale as week old bread. Give it up already.

Those that should,dont.
Those that cant,are useless.
Those that pretend, are fooling themselves.

Then why are you here, u wish u knew(that's a good one ).oh I forgot you dictate who writes what and where.No integrity or compassion do you have I see.Just troublesome. and jealous?I take what u wrote somewhat directed towards me as well only because I am here.I am certainly not" useless" ill bet the million that I don't have on that one.And I "shouldn't"? ,why,do you? Hmmm? And "pretend",well thats projection hahah. So you see,At this point this thread isn't about the hoax.Its taken over. BY ME.I'm using it as my personal soapbox.And I don't care if you mind..............let's read..I pickkkk ok the Bible.There IS forgiveness.but God is a jealous god.and He can be an angry god.......Those that are Revilers shall not inherit the kingdom of God. There are many to speak boldly about things that they know little about..... Those that are covetous will not enter the kingdom of God. This has to do with having an uncontrollable desire to possess a certain thing or someones someone. It motivates one into committing sin in order to satisfy greed. Coveting that which belongs to another will keep one from entering heaven....well the list goes on,but I don't want to beat myself up with my own sins lol....And so, do you still say u wish u knew,or is that me.PEACE!!!!!!!

I m re-posting this since David did not respond and Jlizard seemed to try to twist this in his favor. Jlizard almost got a restraining order against his ass for being a creep to a certain person(not me) and he knows what I m talking about. This guy has some serious problems!!!!! Do not get involved with him. Please check this out again and lets see what happens, come on boys fess up or I m going to start dropping some really pertinent info about the 2 of you. Admit that your sources do not exist!!!! You ve been lieing all these years.
OK so here's the deal....David and JLizard, you have been trying to break this story for so long that you've become irrelevant.
The truth is that Bill Loyer is a real person, is he Jim Morrison, I still cant honestly say. I ve talked to so many people on the subject, even people who new Bill back in the 80's.
It's super easy to find real info on Bill, just use your brains and a few $$$$. If you actually want to find the truth do a little work. I ve talked to a few of the so called Pro's on this forum, I can honestly say that I have caught them in lies, I purposely set a fake trap and they fell for it hook line and sinker, which proves that they have absolutely no ties with Bill. These guys are like Bill Loyer groupies at best. They have no secret connection at all.
I hope that you people would also have the decency to leave Chris and his wife out of this. Could you imagine what it would be like to be in their position. I have provided them with most of my info in the past and they are great people, leave them alone. I just read some past posts and it looks like they were offended...I feel bad for them.
I talked with a reporter who met Bill back in the 80's when he was living in a hotel with his kids, and was working as a brick layer. As far as she was concerned she didn't believe Bill was Jim Morrison.
If it is Jim, maybe we should just leave him alone, this BS that Jlizard and David keep making is nothing more than invasion of Bills privacy. Bill has nothing to do with these 2 guys. In the past David met Bill, but I ve met alot of famous people too, but it doesnt mean I have a direct line to them. It's like me saying "Hey I met Mick Jagger" and just because I met him once doesnt mean I know everything about him and that we are best buds, thats called being delusional.
So after all that maybe we should conclude that Bill or Jim has simply had his privacy invaded and perhaps he never intended to have any of this at all. I believe that most of what Jlizard and David say is pretty much 100% derivative of their own thoughts and has absolutely nothing to do with Bill.

Personally if I was Bill/Jim I would be laughing my ass off at these 2 grown men who have spent years regurgitating the same nonsense over and over.
My only goal from my investigation last year was to help Chris find the truth, and after I exhausted all my research avenues I moved on. I sent Chris and his wife most of my info and left it at that. It really is no one else's business.

Respect,
You're posting is comedy at this site's finest. No one has mentioned Chris in a long time and then you come in here and tell everyone not to mention them. I know Chris and his wife and that is funny. Although I don't think they'll think so.
Oh yes, then Jlizard ALMOST got a restraining order. I almost won the lottery, asked Jan Erwin out on a date and got my nipple pierced. Seriously, I have never come close to getting a restraining order and my squeaky clean reputation is highly sought after by companies and the gov't for whom I now work.
"Jlizard and David say is pretty much 100% derivative of their own thoughts and has absolutely nothing to do with Bill." Umm, yes, most of what one says is based on their own thoughts but if one mentions Bill, it has to do with Bill.

So, Respect, does this mean you know the truth about Chris? How are you friends? Or are you just like the other people on here saying they know everybody else.

It really is no one else's business. Posted by respect

Hi

Curious, No Chris and I are not friends I simply provided info to him. Info on Bill, David and Jliz, and they also gave me some interesting info on Jliz in return.

Jliz I think the only comedy here is your delusional disorder. I'll quote Jliz in his delusion, "my squeaky clean reputation is highly sought after by companies and the gov't for whom I now work." Jliz works in a water treatment plant guys, good janitors are also highly sought after, if you know one let me know 😉 Also he says "I know Chris and his wife" he is telling the truth here he does, they talked on the phone and they want nothing to do with him because he is creepy and insane!!!!

It's not my business I was researching it before but realized that it wasnt my business, it is his childrens right, but not mine.

It just annoys me how David and Jliz can continue to act like they have this connection after they fell right into my trap and I caught them lieing red handed and proved that they have no connection to Bill at all.

Most of their stories come straight from Gerald and the boards. Lets see how Jliz tries to glorify and twist this post, he is certainly a creative guy.

Wo.That was harsh.wo.It seems like everyone talks for Bill.If that's not the pot calling the kettle black.Does Loyer even exist because from what I've read he's the only one not talking here or anywhere.p.s. The only time Chris or his wife get metioned is when( respect)( who deserves none only because he has shown none)(along with a lot of people here)brings them up.No one really cares to talk about them but you respect!I wonder if Chris realizes that! Also no one seems to be friends with JLizard anyway.From what Ihave read everyone fights him here.David Logan is just on the fence too.But respect comes in saying don't mention this one n that one and no one is!!! It doesn't take a genius to see respect is opening the safe to let someone steal the porno so to say.

Jlizard and I are the only ones here that know Loyer at this point. He seems straight up to me and not a story has crossed. He has revealed everything. They hate JLizard in part because he believes Loyer as do I. Like Loyer said recently some people here don't know sh**. Respect u fall in that catagory when it comes to me. No respect. Loyer's were communicating here early on. Some people are so vile and create their own anger. This is what we have continually ran into. Not neccesarily the majority. Those who are left and wish to argue rightfullly have only seen some pictures and have dug up a news story. You can't prove he is not. You can't. Please do.

Many in the real world, not cyber, believe this also. Now I've known this old kid for 12 years. We're not trying to steal anybody's cupcake. Everything has been out there for years. Boy it is amazing...don't mess with somebodies Legend. Bill has offered everything and no one has proved he is not. Instead we slander and diffuse. What if.. Anyway, one day his art and books will be released. More cannon fodder for the wary. If you want to see who we are talking about go to http://www.highmountainrogue.com/

To put this into plain english. For me I have never sat across the table from somebody so intense. Brilliant. Incredibly striking and so straight forward. Ah a thinker indeed. Bill Loyer shrouded in mystery except for one honest news story.

Now take Ray Manzerik. He has always played it safe and smart. He has seen my pictures and asked if Jimbo had proof. Kind of strange, he must really look like him. Ray and the boys are fully aware of the beginning of this and know Rodeo's West inside and out. That's why Ray said "He's alive, living in Oregon haven't you heard? He's a cowboy" He doesn't know for completely sure, but my bet is that down inside he leans strongly towards Loyer being Jimbo. Did you think Jim would pick some big outfit like Ford or Phillip Morris agency? No he choose the little guy.

I was just on Pitt's website. He plays a short from the video. BillyJim is singing The End. He totally f****up the lyrics. I beleive he sings "the end of laughter and bright lights." I think its supposed to be "the end of laughter and soft lies" This is the second song this guy can't sing. The Real JIM MORRISON loved his creation The End and would'nt f***up the lyrics.

Loyer is a fraud, a crook and a fake--and a pathetically bad fake at that.

As for Logan and JLizard, I don't know and don't really care what motivates them, but for two people who never so much as set eyes on the real Jim Morrison to claim they're qualified to judge whether or not Loyer is really Morrison is just silly.

And once again, Logan, Ray Manzarek was JOKING. Bill Loyer is a JOKE. No one takes him the least bit seriously--except you and your equally sad little pal, apparently.

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BTW, for anyone who wants to see the real Morrison in action, When You're Strange, the Dick Wolf produced, Tom DiCillo directed, Johhny Depp narrated documentary on Jim and the guys, will be shown on PBS's American Masters series this coming Wednesday night, May 12th. Check your local listings...

You're so wrong.

And so how did u get to know him. Was it one week? A day? 2 months. A year? Who is Janet Erwin? Not really in the history books. You sound like some 300 lb. fat **s who is miserable with her life.
Was he your back door man? You are a hippocrit who had an acquaintence. Certianly not capable of judging Loyer.

News flash==== Ray was not completely joking. Don't you remember Janet they couldn't hardly stand each other when it all went down? Especially the lead singer. Ever been in a band? Well it's real disappointing when things don't go right. The Doors had been struggling with that for almost 2 years.
Have u changed in the last 30 to 40 years? To me it comes down to that last 2 days. I know, they have tried to convince.
And JLizard is not little.

Scenario: One of the worlds biggest legends wants to disappear. Certianly would not be running around for 27 years after reciting the doors poetry or rehearsing.

by the way, using this for a medium...Obama s**ck$
Well gee whiz he's such sneak and a sly power monger. Sorry Jlizard but it's true. Me and a 180 million other Americans. Well... he's more phony than Bill Loyer. Of course he's going to try and do his best as he knows it, unless we nail im. But we don't have the strength. I gaurentee he's got an ace or two up his sleeve. Don't feel sorry for him.

Hopefully so does Bill. No worries.

Taking a moment--Yohoho o ah haha ah ha yaheeheyaw hee haw yahee e Ko ko ah ha tok yo ho yell yo. aa/eee

Where's that paper JLizard. Oh..saddlebag.

"News flash==== Ray was not completely joking. Don't you remember Janet they couldn't hardly stand each other when it all went down?"

No, I don't remember any such thing--and neither do you, and neither does Loyer. Neither of you has ever encountered either Ray Manzarek or Jim Morrison in the flesh, or observed the two men interacting, let alone heard the affection in Jim's voice when he spoke of "ol' Ray."

Of course Ray was joking. Loyer's a joke. Deal with it and MOVE ON.

aah and Loyer's talked fondly of Ray/

If you don't know then you're full of it. janets' a fake. O how many concerts did he miss? 3? 2? Or everybodies waiting... no Jimbo. I guess you were saddling your horse and listening to Conway Twitty thru rose colored glasses. You musta been a good lookin ol heifer.
They struggled with it the last almost 2 years. They barely made it.

Loyer is so good that the closer you get the more you know. Might be crazy but spot on comparison's. You'd really like him. Most girls do.. There's something fascinating about him. He's my good friend and I can see some of what they see. It's that twinkle in his eye man. Ha ha Oo good old Bill Loyer. Where's the public outcry besides the stern ones here? Oh yea that was back there a ways.
I see it now it's FADINg FADIng Faad-_ You remember that line.

Well, and I mean this, God rest his soul if so be it.

"Woman, vanity is thy name." Woman like Janet and Pat Kineally got their egos hurt by Jim and were thereafter out to crucify him. Dr. Marsha is the only woman who can keep Jim satisfied. And as we see a lot of that has to do with on an intellectual level. There is something wonderful about the way Bill Loyer thinks and talks. Super intelligent.
This reminds me of how the girls went into a love hate with John Lennon after he married Yoko. The English womens' egos had been bruised and all of a sudden his genius didn't matter. And they went out of their way to put it in the press.
I'd still go out with Janet though.

I remember that. Well we'll see JLizard.

Rumor had it Jim being spotted years ago on the Boardwalk in Wildwood NJ.
Maybe there is something to it

Half truths and soft lies, rofl

Q:Why can't a man living in the USA be buried in Paris?


A:Why should a living man be buried?


:zip:

What relly gets me is the fact his Mom and Dad never had his body moved back to the states.
The Navy Admiral would never leave his son buried on Foreign soil. Could it be that the grave is empty ?

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