Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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No it doesn't.
Not even on Lttd does Active Membership have privileges.
The more you open your mouth the farther your foot goes in it.
Sycophant!
It is obvious that this place does not give the ToV a fair shake. I guess those who don't have the power hate those who do.
It would be much appreciated to know.
People who think the Church of Satan is a message board...
personally I require an object link for that sort of thing at this juncture so you can talk as much sh!+ about me online as you want.😊
You will find that the majority don't believe in that kind of power and thus don't give it much thought.
And a couple of us knows how to deal with these kinds of attacks. Personally I wasn't impressed by ToV practitioners. Most members don't know what they're doing and those able to do something were latents/dormants. The rest wish so hard, that they condition themselves into believing something happens.
Of their gods there has been no sign.
Those that finally awakens leave quickly, as does those realizing they were decieving themselves.
As to satanists being sorcerers... Try reading these comments a little thoroughly. It is obvious you didn't.
The sock puppetry is done by the PRO-ToV posters. It is obvious from their sentence structure, phrase choice, errors, etc.
With the critical comments there are no such patterns.
Are you getting it now, Paul?
Is any other idiot trying to twist my words to serve their pathetic arguments?
The critics are continually accused of spreading misinformation while the ToV goons themselves resort to sock puppetry, strawmen, threats, accusations, lies, personal attacks and more.
Read the 117 pages of comments and you will see this clearly.
You are truly a weak individual, but you make for great food!
Thanks for the bite!
HS!
HT!
anyway carry on
HT
Sand/Anonymous/Rupert is waging a one man pseudo-satanist campaign or war (as he calls it!) against the CoS & ToV.
Ignore this dumb loon who likely got the boot from the CoS a while ago!
You did not answer Paul's questions.
Where are the anti-ToV posts on LttD which YOU stated where there?
Sand/Anonymous/Rupert is claiming there is a CONSPIRACY on LttD to erase posts and kick people out for being against the ToV...that is why not one SOUL has said anything against the ToV on LttD. What happened to the legions of outraged CoS members?
I guess they only exist in Sand/Anonymous' mind.
Without MoH, Sand would have nowhere to continue his bogus claims against the ToV!
Advice; IGNORE ALL HIS POSTS...
I do suggest all of you spend less time in this toddler's pool and go do and create in the real world.
Of course you cannot find them at this exact moment in time because they have been removed. Any mention of ToV is quickly put to rest. But like anyone who checks the forum you will see them come up.
There have been links posted through this thread also, one in particular about David Styles with CoS members responding unfavourably towards him, that topic was edited on LTTD very soon after being posted here.
http://www.satannet.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=361312#Post361312
"It's interesting that when confronted with FACT that you mist resort to attacking the individual, instead of beable to truly debate anything with proof to back up your accusations.
You are truly a weak individual, but you make for great food!
Thanks for the bite!
HS!
HT!"
The proof is already in these pages. Read. Analyze. Deduct.
And thanks for, with your food comment, proving a point of mine early on. The ToV clearly views those not in the temple to be below them.
And that bite was thin air, some sand and grit. Enjoy?
"I'm a ToV member and not once have I sockpuppeted so bite it Sand/Rupert/lil Gabby"
And for that you are to be commended. Not everyone of your affiliation show such restraint.
Another revision of my posts. Try again. I have always pointed out that a large number of pro-ToV posts are bearing similarities in their structure. Basic pattern recognition. My guess is 3 different persons, though, as mentioned, some ToV members share written mannerism due to the conditioning.
"Sand/Anonymous/Rupert is waging a one man pseudo-satanist campaign or war (as he calls it!) against the CoS & ToV."
There is no war, and I bear no ill will against the CoS. I study. Simple as that.
"Ignore this dumb loon who likely got the boot from the CoS a while ago!"
Never was a member. My paradigm is in clear violation of the one of the CoS in general. I thought that was evident from page one.
"You did not answer Paul's questions.
Where are the anti-ToV posts on LttD which YOU stated where there?"
Look up.
"Sand/Anonymous/Rupert is claiming there is a CONSPIRACY on LttD to erase posts and kick people out for being against the ToV...that is why not one SOUL has said anything against the ToV on LttD. What happened to the legions of outraged CoS members?"
CoS politics. You'll have to ask a satanist about that.
"I guess they only exist in Sand/Anonymous' mind.
Without MoH, Sand would have nowhere to continue his bogus claims against the ToV!
Advice; IGNORE ALL HIS POSTS..."
There are plenty of places where the temple of the vampire is discussed.
It seems the new tactic is to accuse me of being the sock puppeteer. May I remind you that Styles himself put RL names on two posters here. I would also like to remind you that I started posting while Gabriel/Lu Yang was still a devout member. If you had indeed read and analyzed these now 118 pages, you would surely know I am a seperate person from all the others.
I guess at least Groucho has ignored all my posts.
I do suggest all of you spend less time in this toddler's pool and go do and create in the real world."
Once again. Not a satanist.
A nice, quick response on Groucho's post, Timmie. Are you monitoring this blog, or is it just a bit of wingman tactics here?
So evidently, what we have here is someone trolling in an attempt to create conflict between CoS members. He's doing a fine job of it.
Now that Sand has been exposed as a troll, I hope no Satanists take his bait.
Still nothing?
I guess you need others to digest that information for you, then tell you what it means. Until that happens, the same arguments are parroted again and again.
And the question revolved around the relationship between the ToV and the CoS, which makes it relevant on both fora.
What about this confuses you, Count?
Not really, since they allow member of another religion to have there there, as well as the owner being a ToV member and not a real Satanist.
Quote "If someone wants to talk Vampirism they have avenues with which to do so, like ToV."
Again no, since ToV isn't vampirism. ToV is a cryonics cult and not about actual vampirism.
Count, get your head outta Nemo's ass already! It's pathetic. Maybe you should stick to Sesame Street, since that's where your comprehension fits. Enjoy your fail 😊
Next valid argument, please.
You aren't a Satanist but you feel you should have some say as to ToV Members being in the CoS? Did I read that correctly? What authority do you feel you have?
You are truly pathetic, but we've known that for 118 pages. It's just fun to watch your emotional trainwreck.
LttD is a S-A-T-A-N-I-S-M forum where topics related to S-A-T-A-N-I-S-M are discussed particularly as it pertains to the Church of Satan. The public as in non members may also post there too.
If one wants to talk Vampirism then they can go to Lifeforce providing they are a member of the Temple.
Both messageboards are privately owned.
What about this bothers you?
Next valid argument, please."
Viewing other human beings as food is a bit more than just elitism, don't you think?
"You aren't a Satanist but you feel you should have some say as to ToV Members being in the CoS? Did I read that correctly? What authority do you feel you have?"
You are now confusing me with the gentlemen from the CoS, who oppose having to rub shoulders with you people. I have only voiced my opinion in this matter and never claimed any authority within the CoS. You're welcome to point out where I might have claimed to possess any CoS authority.
"You are truly pathetic, but we've known that for 118 pages. It's just fun to watch your emotional trainwreck."
You are under the impression that I have an emotional investment in this matter. I have none. You on the other hand seem very keen on defending your precious temple.
And don't try to tell us you've real every page here. Otherwise you wouldn't have made the blunder mixing me up with Gabriel/Lu Yang, as well as mistaking me for a satanist. And to think you call other people stupid.
"@Sand and Anonymous
LttD is a S-A-T-A-N-I-S-M forum where topics related to S-A-T-A-N-I-S-M are discussed particularly as it pertains to the Church of Satan. The public as in non members may also post there too.
If one wants to talk Vampirism then they can go to Lifeforce providing they are a member of the Temple."
And what if you want to inquire about the relationship between S-A-T-A-N-I-S-M and vampirism? Where would you ask to get a proper answer? I'll laugh if you say the ToV.
"Both messageboards are privately owned."
And run by the same people. Meaning it will be little trouble silencing any critical voices. It is a practice on other boards manipulated by the ToV as well, as can clearly be read on the Lifeforce threads here: https://sites.google.com/site/plasticfangersamongus/
Read the comments by Styles about his "damage control".
"What about this bothers you?"
Nothing. But it seems the prospect of me being right is bothering you a lot. Like Blah you're obviously caring quite a lot about the legitimacy of the temple of the vampire. Perhaps that is why you're disregarding the gag order.
Herp derp they could always try something called "The Internet". I don't really feel any obligation to explain anything to anyone.
"And run by the same people."
The moderators of LttD are not the mod on Lifeforce, how are they run by the same people?
"Meaning it will be little trouble silencing any critical voices."
If ya don't like it then go elsewhere. Is this a problem?
"It is a practice on other boards manipulated by the ToV as well, as can clearly be read on the Lifeforce threads here: https://sites.google.com/site/plasticfangersamongus/"
So you joined an organization with a private message board in good faith. Then you expose that messageboard publicly putting the safety of others at risk because you're having personal problems?
I wouldn't trust you with a house plant.
So now we're cannibals lol (since you insist on being literalist )
What a sorry excuse for a human being.
Although I agree with some of the philosophies of the ToV, it's pretty damn clear from the argument between Ishkur and Linguascelesta, that Linguascelesta is bat shit fucking crazy, stupid, uneducated and just plain retarded. How the fuck can that sad case call himself an 'alien elite', he fails at everything he does.
No wonder the CoS won't give him a priesthood position, why the fuck would you.
LOL @ HIM.
So you would like people to ask questions about the CoS somewhere else?
You know what... I'll just let you think that one through one more time.
"The moderators of LttD are not the mod on Lifeforce, how are they run by the same people?"
That has been discussed here before and on links earlier on. You obviously haven't been reading much here.
"If ya don't like it then go elsewhere. Is this a problem?"
So you're ok with the removal of any potentially valid arguments in a discussion. That is interesting to hear.
"So you joined an organization with a private message board in good faith. Then you expose that messageboard publicly putting the safety of others at risk because you're having personal problems?"
That site is made by Gabriel/Lu Yang. It has already been proven that I am not him, since he was still loyal to the temple when I started posting here. I'm starting to wonder how much of these posts you actually do understand.
"I wouldn't trust you with a house plant."
Good call. They tend to wither fast with me around, much to the amusement of my associates.
Page 117, last post:
"It's interesting that when confronted with FACT that you mist resort to attacking the individual, instead of beable to truly debate anything with proof to back up your accusations.
You are truly a weak individual, but you make for great food!
Thanks for the bite!
HS!
HT!
Posted by Blah in Blah on Mon Jan 24, 2011 at 07:56 AM "
Here. Let me make it easier for you.
"You are truly a weak individual, but you make for great food!"
Those are the words of a member of the temple of the vampire.
In this entire discussion the terms "feeding" and "food" has referred to vampiric feeding. Why are you starting to talk about cannibalism all of a sudden?
As for my defending the Temple.... The Temple can stand on it's own foundation. I don't need to defend it. Your accusations here are absurd and idiotic. You don't back up anything you say with fact and resort to only attacking individuals, as I stated earlier, when you have been proven to fall flat on your face, once again.
It's amusing really.
Actually I was referring to this post:
"So now we're cannibals lol (since you insist on being literalist )
Posted by The Count in Sesame Street on Tue Jan 25, 2011 at 04:47 AM"
You must have skipped it.
I am fully aware of what you meant by food. I am also aware of the limitations of the technique. You are nothing but a poseur blurting accusations and veiled threats. A child playing vampire by rules set by others. You are nothing but a puppet and a subject of study to me.
"As for my defending the Temple.... The Temple can stand on it's own foundation. I don't need to defend it."
Yet you've been doing so for a while now.
"Your accusations here are absurd and idiotic. You don't back up anything you say with fact and resort to only attacking individuals, as I stated earlier, when you have been proven to fall flat on your face, once again."
About the sock puppetry? Plenty of proof on these very pages. You either refuse to acknowledge that or is unable to grasp the simple concept of pattern recognition. I have also explained it several times. I guess it's a bit hard to grasp for the "best of the human race".
"It's amusing really."
Oh, the irony.
Wherever you may go, men will seek you out and compel you to belong to their desperate company of oddfellows..
I agree with Blah, this thread is descending into idiocy in no small part due to Sand/Anon/lil Gabby's inability to understand this key concept.
I find it ironic, that a ToV goon is calling me a literalist. My bad for trying to be a bit droll.
"I agree with Blah, this thread is descending into idiocy in no small part due to Sand/Anon/lil Gabby's inability to understand this key concept."
And you still haven't figured out I'm not Gabriel/Lu Yang. I guess you've run out of arguments and are repeating your old lines over and over again, in the hope that it sooner or later becomes reality.
There really hasn't been ANY evidence posted on this board that refutes anything the ToV does.
I'm on un-bias grounds here and I couldn't care either way, but for christs sake, I've just read through every page here and haven't found anything rock solid.
I'm deadly serious. Yang, you're the one that seems to be running the anti-ToV movement, I think people wouldn't actually minded seeing a web page of yours to actually have information/documents that really shoves the ToV in the dirt. Everything posted earlier and before is just hear-say and personal opinions. There's NO proof the ToV is a money-making scam... at the end of the day, you buy their products and they deliver. It is a religion after all, and arguing against that is as useful as trying to prove the illegitimacy of the Qu-ran to a muslim
As for the whole 'Cryonics' issue, that again is personal opinion on whether you want to follow through with that. There's nothing illegal or 'bad' about it. If people want to give it a shot in hopes of immortality, so fucking what?
I would like to call for the assembly of a unified webpage which can host rock-solid information that has a case against the ToV. Enough of this pettty arguments and bullshit. Let's get all academic on their asses IMO.
This can be seen as the MoH Vampire thread FAQ.
Sand- numero uno Troll Sock puppet. Sand states he is not into vampirism or Satanism, but fills his empty days and nights with "bait" posts to provoke Vampires and Satanists.
Rupert- pseudosatanist (a registered member of the CoS who hides his behind a pseudonym) with a penchant for spreading gossip about Real Satanists.
Anonymous- sock pupper numero dux. You can always identify his posts because his unique peculiar spelling in which 'heard' becomes 'herd' and 'heart' becomes 'heard.' Takes both pro and anti vampire stance under different names.
Lu Yang- basketcase. Not be trusted around farm animals or coffee. Calls himself 'the Ewok.'
The Count & Blah - These two are the bullshit eliminators. They cut through the garbage with no bs facts and reason!
Every other post on this thread (acccording to Sand) is made by V,master sockpuppeteer who posts under dozens of names taking both pro and anti ToV stances.
For those interested in the truth about vampires, please visit http://www.vampiretemple.com
For those interested in satanism, please visit http://www.churchofsatan.com
Haave fun!
This can be seen as the MoH Vampire thread FAQ.
Sand- numero uno Troll Sock puppet. Sand states he is not into vampirism or Satanism, but fills his empty days and nights with "bait" posts to provoke Vampires and Satanists."
I have written quite clearly elsewhere, that I've pursued my study of vampirism through several decades. As for "bait posts", I admit to having a bit of fun with Blah and the count, since they've been deliberately spreading misinformation and abusing what others here have written.
"Rupert- pseudosatanist (a registered member of the CoS who hides his behind a pseudonym) with a penchant for spreading gossip about Real Satanists."
I'll let Mr. Rupert address that himself.
"Anonymous- sock pupper numero dux. You can always identify his posts because his unique peculiar spelling in which 'heard' becomes 'herd' and 'heart' becomes 'heard.' Takes both pro and anti vampire stance under different names."
Copycating my own argument. I'm flattered. However, you've only pointed out a typical misspelling, not an actual pattern.
"Lu Yang- basketcase. Not be trusted around farm animals or coffee. Calls himself 'the Ewok.'"
Now we're back to the ridicule and accusations of insanity. Not really building a strong case with that. Not to mention you're still mistaking me Gabriel/Lu Yang. Please read a little earlier where I address that misunderstanding.
"The Count & Blah - These two are the bullshit eliminators. They cut through the garbage with no bs facts and reason!"
Easy with the backpatting. You're leaving bruises.
As to the facts and reason in question, that or rather its absense is for everyone to see.
"Every other post on this thread (acccording to Sand) is made by V,master sockpuppeteer who posts under dozens of names taking both pro and anti ToV stances."
Every other post? Please quote where I specifically say "every other post".
Yet again an attempt to manipulate my argument. I wrote a page back:
"Another revision of my posts. Try again. I have always pointed out that a large number of pro-ToV posts are bearing similarities in their structure. Basic pattern recognition. My guess is 3 different persons, though, as mentioned, some ToV members share written mannerism due to the conditioning."
I clearly say my estimate is 3, not one as you claim.
Yet another accusation of sock puppetry. A bit less clumsy than more recent attempts, but still unfounded. You can fool the gullible people and those too lazy to read for themselves, hardly anyone else.
"For those interested in the truth about vampires, please visit http://www.vampiretemple.com
For those interested in satanism, please visit http://www.churchofsatan.com"
Bring an ample supply of grains of salt.
The message and the gesture is duly noted. It is also appropriate at both ends of the table.
And before anyone gets on the "no real/Active Satanists are against the ToV" I've had my red card for a decade and Active Membership for almost as long.
I also was in the ToV for years. I've spent time on both LttD and Lifeforce. I have seen the threads where people commenting on the proliferation of ToV fishing banners and signature links were ridiculed and hushed up on LttD, the mods tend to come down hard on that with the hackneyed old "leave discussion of the ToV to their board" STFU tactic.
If lately there haven't been too many threads like that, it's probably because 1. Lots of Satanists have gotten sick of LttD and abandoned it and 2. Those still there have learned that it's more hassle than it's worth to comment, so they ignore the matter and seethe.
The ToV board is not a place for openly and honestly discussing the ToV with curious newcomers, it's a place for sales pitches and indoctrination.
ToV members are absolutely pressured to go recruiting, there was even a forum where members were expected to post at least once a month with what they were doing to "support the Temple Mission." Now it seems to be more about spamming forums with links and sticking cards in books, but a few years ago there was pressure to be actively recruiting people you know.
Er, I mean "reaching out to those of the family who have potential."
I belonged to a CoS grotto, the two people running it were ToV members and they would constantly hassle you to get you to join the ToV, equating being in the ToV with real Satanism and that if you resisted joining it meant you weren't sincere. Totally against what the CoS is supposed to be about.
Anyway, I left that grotto quickly and I must admit I thought it was a good thing when the grotto system was disbanded a few years back.
ToVers are pushed to move up the hierarchy rather than stay at the lower levels, with a certain amount of suspicion of those who don't advance. Cryonics is required, you start seeing mention of it once you're in the graded forums, you don't even have to wait for priesthood.
Last I heard they had a mentoring system so higher-ups could more closely keep tabs on the newbs.
There's a lot of doublespeak on the ToV forums, for example on the one hand you're cajoled to sign up for full cryonics and on the other hand it's admitted that maybe DNA archiving would be OK in the meantime. "Anything is better than nothing" - well, I guess that can mean the grade application fees too.
(on to part 2)
Any concerns raised and it's either that the undead gods are waiting for you to be worthy to prove it. If you really tried to verify things outside of their framework then you have a pissy attitude and are convincing yourself it's not real so in effect they may say "test everything" but in reality it's "convince yourself what we say is true."
There is a lot of fear-mongering about questioning the Temple or leaving it. You were told to have no contact whatsoever with ex-members, even having them listed on your MySpace friends was verboten. The undead gods would come and get you. And of course a lot of this gets under someone's skin even if they think it doesn't, things like being told if you aren't doing communion you will be drained "for what is theirs" and so if you happen to skip communion and feel tired or sick the seed has been planted to make you think there's a connection between the two. Hypnotic suggestions cum self-fulfilling prophecies, I can see why some have had great troubles after leaving the ToV on account of this.
For me, though, the last while since I decided I would leave has been the biggest breakthrough for me in terms of my career, my personal life, my health, everything is better since I turned my back. Guess if the undead gods existed, they don't really mind that I went back back to doing my own thing.
When I cancelled my ToV subscription, I received a newsletter in the mail a few days later talking about last chances. Vague open-ended questions about whether one preferred life or death, the whole "one life one chance" crapola. I wish I'd saved it to quote from here but alas, I didn't know about this forum and simply tossed it in the recycling bin, I'm sure it's long since been made into toilet paper. My apologies for the loss of the potential laughs.
I could go one and on, but I think others have covered the hoax/scam/slimy bullshit angle thoroughly. Current ToVers will of course be smug in their conviction that we ex-ToV members are full of shit and doomed or damned, well go ahead believing so desperately in that rose, guys. It isn't real, but I guess by the time you find that out there won't be any you left to find it out, same as everyone else on this planet.
I do think the CoS is headed to another fracture as in 75. And of course when all is said and done, the splinter group, the ToV in this case, will convince themselves they were the majority just as the Setians have always believed in their little heart of hearts that 90% of the CoS priesthood turned Setian back then.
I have nothing against Peter and Peggy, but I think they're blind to the groundswell of angry CoS Members who'd like to see this cancer cut from our family tree.
In the end, does it matter? I tend to think Boyd Rice hit the nail on the head, the organization as it stands now cannot be salvaged. Live your own lives without being tied to either organization's apron strings.
There really hasn't been ANY evidence posted on this board that refutes anything the ToV does.
I'm on un-bias grounds here and I couldn't care either way, but for christs sake, I've just read through every page here and haven't found anything rock solid."
Before the ToV goons started spamming up this place there was a lot of discussion about the legitimacy of the ToV, both as a religion and as an actual way of immortality through both mundane and esoteric means.
"I'm deadly serious. Yang, you're the one that seems to be running the anti-ToV movement, I think people wouldn't actually minded seeing a web page of yours to actually have information/documents that really shoves the ToV in the dirt. Everything posted earlier and before is just hear-say and personal opinions. There's NO proof the ToV is a money-making scam..."
I am still not Lu Yang. The link to one of his pages is on page 118.
"at the end of the day, you buy their products and they deliver."
That is what some of the critics here say they don't. People that claim they have been members and thus have first hand experience with the cult.
"It is a religion after all, and arguing against that is as useful as trying to prove the illegitimacy of the Qu-ran to a muslim"
And that is the whole problem in this discussion, and what the followers of this religion use as their main and only reasonable argument. You have a hard time proving this religion - any religion - is true. Especially over the internet.
"As for the whole 'Cryonics' issue, that again is personal opinion on whether you want to follow through with that. There's nothing illegal or 'bad' about it. If people want to give it a shot in hopes of immortality, so fucking what?"
People were miffed about it not being clear in the initial contract, that you needed it to advance beyond a certain level. My own comments on this are elsewhere and early in this discussion.
"I would like to call for the assembly of a unified webpage which can host rock-solid information that has a case against the ToV. Enough of this pettty arguments and bullshit. Let's get all academic on their asses IMO."
Very little academic research is done in this domain. The term "vampire" seem to frighten anyone writing articles for peer review.
You can ask people with temple experience. This will obviously be biased one way or the other, and will thus demand extensive background knowledge and hermeneutics.
The other way is through objective observation as a member. It should be stressed, however, that there is no such thing as pure positivism. Your perception will always be influenced by your psychological make-up, your upbringing, education, etc. It is therefore imperative for an academicly viable approach to reflect upon your observations and their interpretations as well as reflecting on the reflections themselves. I pointed out at some point, that the hopes and wishes of members are instrumental to the conditioning and the building of blind faith in the cult. You see an attempt at such reflections expressed in one of the Lifeforce threads, though without much success.
You will not find definite answers to your questions without a bit of work on your own part. However, should you choose to join the ToV, be mindful of your desires. I would still read the posts from ex-members, including the rather excellent one that popped up just now. Posts from ToV members are telling their own stories as well.
I spell it that way on purpose, because you and your 'kind' are a bunch of mindless sheep. Bye now. 😊
"I would still read the posts from ex-members, including the rather excellent one that popped up just now. Posts from ToV members are telling their own stories as well."
Other than Mr.Mental breakdown himself (he who shall not be named), which other ToV members have posted stories here? How can you be so sure that those posts are not originating from a person who has never been a member? How can you prove those stores are from actual ToV members or that they are true?
To Beelbub,
"I do think the CoS is headed to another fracture as in 75. And of course when all is said and done, the splinter group, the ToV in this case, will convince themselves they were the majority just as the Setians have always believed in their little heart of hearts that 90% of the CoS priesthood turned Setian back then. "
Yeah. Sure. A load of baloney from someone who cannot prove he was ever a ToV member, who happens to have an agenda against the CoS, and desires to see a schism. You are likely one of the retards from the 600club or joyofsatan.
True Satanists know who they are.
The Dragon behind the eyes awakens some to the Vampire.
It is true; One life, one chance. Reading this may stir a connection within you with a part of you, which you may never had understood before. This is normal.
Do not be dissuaded from taking the right action by the illusions cast by the illusionists who are your inferiors. They are automatons with no wills of their own; animals without purpose.
HS
HT
Reverend Anon
This has been a deliberate action on my behalf.
I have exposed you and provoked you out from under your rocks, only to serve my own ends.
In this blog, ToV members have admitted to many, many things, without even knowing it. Very few 'secrets' remain behind closed doors and moderators. And what's left, really? A bunch of deluded, occultnik crybabies who think they are gods, when they are actually nothing more than pawns in George Smith's cryonics recruitment program.
Mr. Smith, aka Nemo, even makes fun of every single one of you in his essay on pseudo Satanism and you don't even get it. You pay money to be his little slaves. And what are you? The predator of humans? I highly doubt that. Fake-ass, wannabe plastic-fangers is what you are.
Nemo makes his money while fulfilling his delusion that he can make cryonics into a viable delusion, while becoming a 'legend' at the same time. I am sure he is very grateful to you all for having so willingly paid for his cryonics contract. Though, if he were forced to choose between his flock and his cryonics contract, you all would be forgotten without a backward glance.
The more you idiots reply, the more idiotic you appear to the world, to the Church of Satan, and to the cryonics industry. You are representing the Temple of the Vampire, after all, whether you are authorized to do so or not. Won't it be funny when your subscriptions are all terminated?
I am just an anonymous stranger. Someone who has decided the Temple of the Vampire should not continue to exist. You idiots crossed the wrong person, and you get exactly what you deserve, with interest added. This is just a small taste of the embarrassment you will feel. Wake up and smell the humiliation.
You can call me whatever you like. I'm Anonymous after all. I could care less what anyone thinks, since I have never sought 'credit' for my contributions to the ToV's ultimate downfall. It's just something that I do.
But all this comes too little, too late, for you. You snooze, you lose. Have a nice day. 😊
Private and Ikonen if I remember correctly. Several others, though you have to find those yourself.
"How can you be so sure that those posts are not originating from a person who has never been a member? How can you prove those stores are from actual ToV members or that they are true?"
As I pointed out earlier, You'll need the necessary background knowledge and methodology to properly evaluate the sources. My evaluation is they are either real or constructed from information mined from real stories. My sources verify this.
The internet is in essence a construction and any proof located there may be a construction as well, unless administered by a proper authority.
It is a great convenience for some, that you can easily call somebody a liar, leaving them unable to prove otherwise without external means.
In the end, the only way to provide proof, meaning convince others that you are right, on the internet is through rhetorics. Any other way would necessitate an accessible external reference, which in many cases would not be feasible.
In this context, the rhetoric inadequecies of some posters has proven to be a considerable asset. The use of underhanded methods have done nothing but damage the image of the ToV and generate sympathy for certain of the critical voices. Accusing Gabriel/Lu Yang of insanity has done nothing but put dents in your ethos.