Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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I have been on the fence on the ToV issue and apparently this will remain my position for the foreseeable future.
I do want to call out Sand for his naughty behavior.
Reading through the 120+ pages over many months, Sand had fooled me into assuming he was a CoS member, like me.
Now Sand himself has stated that he is not a CoS member or even a Satanist, making him a troll. And a jerk.
Sand, if you have a valid argument to make, there is no need to resort to deceptive tactics. Now that I know you are not and were never a Satanist, I will regard your posts as trolling.
The important question, is why does this troll want to create an illusion of distrust between the CoS and ToV?
I leave that question for all to ponder.
I have been on the fence on the ToV issue and apparently this will remain my position for the foreseeable future.
I do want to call out Sand for his naughty behavior.
Reading through the 120+ pages over many months, Sand had fooled me into assuming he was a CoS member, like me.
Now Sand himself has stated that he is not a CoS member or even a Satanist, making him a troll. And a jerk.
cheers.
He was always a very intelligent and a well articulated poster.
I am very surprised that he had left the ToV--interesting.
I also remember CoS member (former?) Mistress Satanya leave the ToV in disgust stating the ToV are a hoax.
Wild guess but I'm thinking Sand is a jeezoid.
Reading through the 120+ pages over many months, Sand had fooled me into assuming he was a CoS member, like me."
If I was a CoS member, would I have posted those links on page 1?
"Now Sand himself has stated that he is not a CoS member or even a Satanist, making him a troll. And a jerk.
Sand, if you have a valid argument to make, there is no need to resort to deceptive tactics. Now that I know you are not and were never a Satanist, I will regard your posts as trolling."
There was no deception, only a misunderstanding on your part. I suggest you should read those pages more thoroughly, as there are plenty of indications of my views having no place in the CoS paradigm. One glaring detail is my continued reference to applied esoterics.
Now, are we done with the name calling?
I was tempted to let this one float around for rampant speculation. However, doing that would make me no better than certain ToV goons.
I'm afraid you are wrong, sir.
peace niggas!
They are WELL aware of ToV and the whole cryonics marketing to vampire fans and they are not happy about it.
What worries me is that David Styles is becoming a scapegoat and almost a "sacrificial lamb". Everyone hates him for coming out he was a ToV member. Hes ripped off people in imminst and tarred a lot of people with the vampire brush in the transhumanist community. But its like they are blaming him for all that wrong and if hes gone they can forget about it.
BUT - is it really fair - Davids definitly a CXNT who tried to rip people off with Eucrio. But anybody can see that hes just a misguided kid who was groomed by older people to do their agenda can't they? If you look at his "work" promoting Eucrio and cryonics you can see somebody who isn't really happy and at his level. He stutters, fucks up the powerpoint display and generally acts like someone who is "acting" at being a academic.
The Real CRIMINAL here is George C Smith a seriel abuser with mental health councillor qualifications WHO TARGETS VUNERABLE TEENAGERS.
When David Styles was being roasted by Cryonics Institute Members in their private discussion group - Smith (AKA nemo) did not stick up for him once - didnt even comment just sat back and watched Styles commit proffessional suicide.
Why?
Because Styles is his Patsy - a fall guy someone who will take the punches so Smith doesnt have to.
The organisers of Cryonics Institute (Ben Best in Particular) know a lot more about this than they are pretending too. I think Smith was backed by CI for his ToV experiment and styles was encouraged by them to start the Eucrio Scam as another revenue feeder. I'm not saying Styles is innocent but hes just NOT capable of pulling off this level of deception - hes not bright enough and he is too young to have that kind of influence - I think this is all NEMO's work - Styles is a just a Puppet as far as I can gather.
Styles is finished in cryonics as far as I can gather but George C Smith has not been dealt with - its like hes untouchable?
I am looking into this more seriously and will update some more info as I get it. Also let us know if you think my theory is all fucked up!
FYI, from an enlightened perspective, cryonics and vampirism are the SAME thing.
Some just prefer one word over the other.
Eventually, the entire transhumanist movement will understand that the vampire is the archetype of all their specific dreams and desires.
There are those who have reported NDEs after being pronounced medically dead(by current medical standards) for just several minutes. Imagine the NDEs that are possible while being held in cryonic suspension (also dead by current medical standards which we do not believe correct). People awakening from twenty or fifty year suspensions could have incredible NDEs to tell us about. Where would they visit? What would they have discovered? This is the true beauty of the vampire.
you little vampire bastards pervert everything you take from satanism and every satanist can see it here for themselves. everyone look at what these fuckers believe. they believe there is an afterlife. they believe they feed on life force. they take what some of us do in the ritual chamber and LIVE by it all the time. they are wastrels. idiots. new age pagan religious believers. they dont "test everything" they convince themselves of it. they believe in gods!
then they evangelize to you, the satanist. they post the goth version of a crucifix in their signatures. they hand out rings at every cos event. they abuse members who dont play their game. they are worse than christians and they exist in the cos!
look at the vampire posts here people. look at what the cos is allowing. look how they threaten members who want to leave. look how they lie and preach. look how their members drop from the cos like flies. vitaeviternus. diabolus rex. somethinglikeevil who lied to get back in and left again. look how many black banned names on lttd are vampires. umbraenoctem. noctifer. their adepts are our trolls! dozens and dozens more names are easy to find. they are the very thing the cos was founded to oppose and their damn cult leader is a cos magister!
NEMO. you have your own cult now. get the fuck out of our atheist organization!
"If a person has been vital throughout his life and has fought to the end for his earthly existence, it
is this ego which will refuse to die, even after the expiration of the flesh which housed it. Young
children are to be admired for their driving enthusiasm for life. This is exemplified by the small
child who refuses to go to bed when there is something exciting going on, and when once put to
bed, will sneak down the stairs to peek through the curtain and watch. It is this child-like vitality
that will allow the Satanist to peek through the curtain of darkness and death and remain
earthbound."
As they say: "Responsibility to the responsible". Nobody is responsible for a man's actions but that man himself - and that includes David Styles.
"To a person who has virtually nothing in this life, the possibility that he may have been a king in a past life or may be one[Undead Vampire God] in the next life is very attractive, and does much to appease his need for self-respect. If there is nothing in which they can take pride in this life, they can console themselves by thinking, 'there are always future lives.'"
Here is what Anton LaVey had to say about the prospect of the soul existing AFTER DEATH,quoted directly from the page 51 of The Satanic Bible,
"If a person has been vital throughout his life and has fought to the end for his earthly existence, it
is this ego which will refuse to die, even after the expiration of the flesh which housed it. Young
children are to be admired for their driving enthusiasm for life. This is exemplified by the small
child who refuses to go to bed when there is something exciting going on, and when once put to
bed, will sneak down the stairs to peek through the curtain and watch. It is this child-like vitality
that will allow the Satanist to peek through the curtain of darkness and death and remain
earthbound."
I'm sorry, do we continue living this same one life AFTER death?
Would you mind elaborating on how you interpret the above quotes?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CUsEoXl1yJQOxWEWRQbvJmH5gNNmmqXzHcrzSnJlD_E/edit?hl=en&authkey=CJP6ma4H#
Lingua's old webpage resurfaces - you can see that far from being a "patsy" hes aware of what hes doing.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CUsEoXl1yJQOxWEWRQbvJmH5gNNmmqXzHcrzSnJlD_E/edit?hl=en
It's probably George "Cryonics" Smith himself.
If "someone" wants it gone so badly, it must be really good, so I'll repost it again here where I know it will be safe.
Temple of the vampire and Cryonics
The founder of the Temple of the Vampire goes by several names. Some call him Nemo. Others call him Lucas Martel. In the real world, his name is George Smith and he is heavily involved in the cryonics industry. He has a secret agenda behind his vampire temple, which is part of a deceptive facade for cryonics recruitment. You can read an essay he wrote called "Cryonics as a Religion" where he describes his agenda for cryonics outreach by creating a religion around cryonics. This religion perfectly describes his Temple of the Vampire, right down to the ancient Egyptian imagery. Essay
This entire "religion" is a complete fabrication designed to trick the would-be vampire into spending a fortune on a cryonics contract. This information is withheld until the aspiring vampire has been "softened up" by various reality-altering exercises and then is pressured to obtain a cryonic contract as "proof" of their personal commitment to immortality. It is a requirement of the religion to obtain said contract. Do not join the ToV if you are looking for authentic vampire teachings. It is a nonsensical "religion" filled with mind control, polytheism, false promises of power and immortality, massive contradictions, and recycled new-age propaganda relabeled as "vampirism." Do not join ToV unless you totally believe in cryonics and wish to spend a fortune on a cryonics contract, with a desire to make a lifelong commitment to the cryonics industry. You will also be expected to sign over your life insurance policy over to cryonics as well. ~Anonymous
Quote: "I don't care what they say about me, as long as they spell my name right."
Well okay then LINGUASCELESTA aka David Styles, since you don't care... You are an empty-headed artificial social climber who will say or do anything to gain recognition and/or a fancy title. This includes deceiving the public that you are a cryonics professional and that you actually care about people other than yourself and your hosts (the people whom you leech off to keep your social status intact). You give truth to the saying "It's not what you know, but who you blow." You've done much for the cryonics industry, by way of making it look even more ridiculous than it already does.
Quote "Pride motivates Linguascelesta because it is one of the foremost of his sins. He is proud of himself, and likes those associated with him to be proud also. He walks with a confidant stride that has just a hint of a rock star swagger, and likes his greatness to be seen and known. He's a cool cat and he knows it."
He is so proud that he must speak about himself as if he were speaking about someone else. He's so proud of his accomplishments that he's deleted all his website and myspace pages off the net. Greatness, well that is indeed questionable, but the bigger question is this: David, is your Mommy proud of you? Certainly every mom wants their son to grow up to be a satanist and a vampire, the "predator of humans."
Quote "Wrath motivates Linguascelesta because there are those who have wronged him who have accomplished their own measure of success in their otherwise miserable lives, and Linguascelesta has every intention of out-doing them, just for the "Ha, look at me now, and look at you" value. As a certain wise philosopher said, "sometimes the best revenge one can have on one's enemies is simply to live well". Linguascelesta raises a cup of tea to that."
Does living well include making yourself the top scandal of the cryonics movement and being eyed with mistrust by the public whom you promise to treat their dead bodies with the utmost care?
Here is the "Man" who will take care of your cryonics standby services:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/ILJH0EphIbokpWreV_LT5HVZzoFG3f7YNxbqSTvRDzGTj-Eu0zjuVLlwzW2g4W_5_mysoMeM9Q1FMMp8yDhFEro9hlM-UhNX4vGHE8AXBMA
Do you trust him?
The IRS defines "Church" as follows:
Certain characteristics are generally attributed to churches. These attributes of a church have been developed by the IRS and by court decisions . They include: distinct legal existence; recognized creed and form of worship; definite and distinct ecclesiastical government; formal code of doctrine and discipline; distinct religious history; membership not associated with any other church or denomination; organization of ordained ministers; ordained ministers selected after completing prescribed courses of study; literature of its own; established places of worship; regular congregations; regular religious services; Sunday schools for the religious instruction of the young; schools for the preparation of its ministers. The IRS generally uses a combination of these characteristics, together with other facts and circumstances, to determine whether an organization is considered a church for federal tax purposes .
The IRS makes no attempt to evaluate the content of whatever doctrine a particular organization claims is religious, provided the particular beliefs of the organization are truly and sincerely held by those professing them and <b>the practices and rites associated with the organization
Styles himself--NO.
However, it is foolish and a blatant LIE to spin this to act like all Satanists can't be trusted or do not have any integrity as you are trying to do here.
It is a blatant lie and misrepresentation of Satanists to act as if all Satanists are out to screw everyone over, lie about everything, not be trusted, or to be, to coin a popular label, be a total douche bag.
I feel most Satanists (CoS members) are civil and respectable people who are not out to be assholes and shit disturbers just for the sake of being assholes.
However, if you screw with Satanists and show them lack of respect or make up lies about them and their religion then don't be surprised if you got what you deserve coming to you or you are disrespected.
I find that Christians and other religions demand respect yet show NO respect for Satanists (by trashing us and our religion) and will not listen to our definition of our religion. Rather, assholes like this want to continue to believe their own LIES they make up about our religion.
It is so retarded how people think they know everything about what Satanism is yet know absolutely nothing at all.
What you have in Styles is the poster child of the "New CoS" these "vampires" are trying to make. You can hate me all you like, but it is what it is.
Since I am not into pissing contests, I will leave you to your observations.
As a Satanist, I think your not being fair by misrepresenting my religion as a way to make somebody look "bad".
However, you do make some strong arguments that I find interesting.
"A word to the wise: since Satanism is a philosophy which holds individualism as one of its main values, we don
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Studicus
How sad!
Without magic in the COS, more will seek it in the TOV.
Maybe this is the plan after all!
Maybe HP GILMORE wants real sorcery limited to the TOV. Maybe its his plan all along.
That blows my crappy theory right outta the water!
So Styles IS fully aware of what hes doing - Funny as fXXX because hes been telling people in the cryonics community that his name means "heavenly toungue"! (mainly to Ladies)
I figured because he was young that he had been "groomed" by Smith - but it seems he has been a willing accomplice. If that document is his website written in his own words.
I see the anonymoused pulled it from the Rick Ross forum - Are you Pleasuremodel/Richiekgb?
Damn you anonymous, you made me spill my soda all over myself! That was too funny!
No one using a name like "I beat kids" deserves a reply of any type. I don't care what anyone's position here is. I think we can all agree that is just wrong!
What an artful dodge, but my post was directed at The Count.
When it comes to picking names, we can't all be as clever as you huh, 'Blah'?
Clearly, I must be some kinda misguided miscreant.
Run, your ineptitude is showing.
You ToV kids are quite amusing.
I already purchased a Bible. Communion works, thank you! It was everything I was looking for!
I will join the CoS in a few months to stand in brotherhood with others who respect the deeds of Anton Szandor Lavey (the Red Card will also look cool in my wallet. 😉 )
The idiots like anonymous, ropert, and Sand don't understand that the more they attempt to tarnish the images of the ToV and CoS, the more that people will desire to look for the truth.
Thanks for helping me find the way to the truth.
Vampire J.
I am not aware of this conspiracy to discourage the use of Greater Magic in the CoS.
"Satanists do have experience of the super-normal in their practice of ritual or Greater Magic... The theory and practice for Greater Magic is to be found in The Satanic Bible and The Satanic Rituals."
Also, Satanists have always been carnal and not mystical and spiritual and do not believe in a literal Satan. Maybe this isn't a popular idea for you yet Satanists are not theistic or spiritual believing in gods, devils, heavens or hells.
"As you can see, there are no elements of Devil worship in the Church of Satan. Such practices are looked upon as being Christian heresies; believing in the dualistic Christian world view of
Nope - I did get the david styles doc off the RR forum though where they are also talking about old Lingua! Thought that might help with your "investigations" - what are you spokesperson for Cryonics R us??
----> http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,64749,page=81
It's Rupert actually....
If you would have read this Weblog from the begining you would also know that you have forgot Mr. Private in your classification of "idiots", it's very important that you include everyone as we have worked hard to reach this level and deserve nothing less than full-mention!
I had a great time on the Lifeforce last night....If left unattended I would imagine that a mole could dig all the way to the other side of the Earth!
"If you are suggesting that Anton LaVey was a Devil worshipper then you have got it all wrong. If you read Doctor LaVeys writings you will see there is no old or new ways like you believe.
No such thing is being suggested! You are trying to shove words down throats to prop up your lies!
"And just because there is little discussion about ritual doesn't mean that its practice is not allowed or frowned upon. Also, whether one uses ritual or not is a personal choice and is not required to be a CoS member."
I chuckle whenever anyone claiming to be a Satanist declares that she/he ignores roughly 1/2 of the Satanic Bible. No Greater Magic=not a Satanist. Just atheists who enjoy masquerading. You right, to be a COS member only $200 is necessary; being a Satanist is not required.
"Funny, you don't have to join the ToV to find or practice magic while being a member of the CoS. Lol!"
TOV can be seen as a SIG that specializes in magic. Many folk see it that way. You may not but many do. COS needs to add magic back to its formula or the TOV will keep on growing at an unprecedented rate.
"Any CoS member is welcome to use Greater Magic if it serves them."
COS now treats Greater Magic like an ugly stepchild.
"However, the CoS is not and never has been a SPIRITUAL religion."
Magic is super-normal not super-natural. Just because something is not comprehended fully does not make it spiritual. I did not mention spiritual. Magic does not = spiritual. I did not call the COS spiritual. Learn to read before being so quick to post a retort.
Im trying to protect the COS. Bring it back to what it was. If not, TOV will be the authentic COS and the COS will just be a door to the TOV for the intelligent.