Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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You're all full of shit. Funny, you think your precious "teachings" are so secret, yet they are easily obtainable to those who know where to look.
Your "9 Laws Of Magic" are pure gibberish... poppycock.
Imagine swearing your soul to serve Nemo forever, only to find his "magic" is nothing but pure crap????? Oh wow... where do you apply for a refund????? Oh, I almost forgot..... the Temple of the Vampire doesn't give refunds, even if their "product" fails to produce the startling "results" they promise, such as physical immortality.
You've all been had... Suckers, wake up and smell the bullshit.
Like_It_Matters in Washington: What are you, Nemo's bitch????? It's only a matter of time before the ToV crumbles of it's own idiocy.
Mark my words: Anyone searching "Temple of the Vampire" is going to find this blog. The truth is all right here.
Now, kindly go flock yourself, you fake, vampire wannabe. Your "true world" is a delusion... A scam created by the sadly non-present Nemo.
Posted by Hairy Houdini on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 06:39 AM
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The spider's eye has 12 children today, thirteen under the last moon... the time nears... the last offering was but one of many to come... wair for it
Posted by Hairy Houdini on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 06:55 AM
From the far-out nature of your posts, I see that you've finally launched into orbit. Will you let us know when the shuttle lands?
"Detrevni Diatribe, Sand in Somewhere, you have not read a thing in Temple litterature that you could wrap your little sheeple brain around. I find you full of crap when you state you have read ALL Temple litterature as anyone in the higher circles would have completed so much by then they would never share it."
Odd. I never recall mentioning I've analyzed ALL their texts. And I never claimed getting them from someone else. It's quite easy to gain entry into TOV, btw.
"Did they give you access to their login and password?"
When in possession of enough information to make a proper assessment? Why? It's useless compared to other techniques. And ToGD has better thought out rituals than this, and since they started out as a moneymaking scam, then double the joke, harhar.
"Why aren't you posting your sheeple rantings there?"
Because doing that would simly lead to the removal of the posts and termination of the account. Didn't think that one through, did you? Or are you just ignorant of ToV policy?
"99% of the sheeple "bleating" I read here is so un-informed it keeps me amused."
I'd say 70-ish, though I rarely find ignorance amusing. Guess it makes you feel good, though.
"Thank you for your contributions at keeping the sheeple confused, scared, and best of all in dis-belief as to the ToV."
Seems like that's your job, though your skills as a demagogue seems rather inadequete at the moment. And you got it mixed up a bit. Shouldn't it be "complacent" instead of "scared"? I mean, if non-ToV people believed the Shurpu Kishpu, they might be a wee bit upset.
But in the end, your rambling seems more like a defence of the ToV, so you seem to have your priorities mixed up. Enlighten or confound?
"Thank you for keeping Me laughing at you all as well. This is most amusing."
Yes. You must feel good about yourself. You are after all... special.
"Please keep kidding yourselves so you can sleep at night. That is another sheeple contribution I appreciate."
Yet you try to convince us, that you're a predator and others are food? So much for secrecy.
"Yes, I do expect some kind of ranting back towards me about this post. I do like to laugh at you all though."
Umm... You're repeating yourself.
"Sleep well."
Goodnight, sweet prince. May flights of devils bring you to your rest. Pfffffh...
Rant in quotation marks brought to you by:
Like_It_Matters in Washington on Sat May 31, 2008 at 11:09 AM
So the question is: Is LIM a devout ToV member or just a troll? Drone or pest? Does it matter?
Well, I provided some links on the first page for those with interest in vampires and/or the occult. Should shave 2-5 years off studies done on your own.
"The spider's eye has 12 children today, thirteen under the last moon... the time nears... the last offering was but one of many to come... wair for it Posted by Hairy Houdini on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 06:55 AM"
Wair for it????? LMAO!!!!! Your "threats" seem like something out of a children's book. I'm sure the whole of humanity will be shaking in their boots after reading those "warnings." LOL!
I bow to no one.
Actually, I don't really care. This is just mental masturbation. It goes without saying the ToV are a bunch of mind-controlled idiots. It also goes without saying that anyone who thinks they are a vampire is an idiot as well. Vampires are folklore. Nothing more. I'm just having fun at the expense of fools like you. Have fun defending your fairy tales.
"Sand in Yep, You are so predictable."
Yet you seem unable to do so.
"What makes you so frustrated is people aren't just blindly following what you or the idiots on here are trying to get everyone to believe."
Mmm... No. You're mixing me up with Jo or Eddie or someone else. All I've urged people to do was think a bit for themselves and gave a few pointers. And, really. What would I gain from convincing people here, that my worldview is the right one? You on the other hand...
"You probably thought to yourself one day, "Gee, I found a website where I may get some sympathy..."
I don't need sympathy. And you sound like it's hard to find unmoderated blogs on the internet. Besides, my views clashes with at least two third of the posters.
"...from (trolls and drones?)..."
I can see from the questionmark, that you didn't get that one. Funny, since you're the one calling others "sheeple".
"because my ass hurts and I dont understand things."
Just because you feel like this, doesn't mean I do.
"Then I can convince them I am intelligent, then they would have to follow what I say."
What would I gain by that? Seems like it's more up your alley.
"waa waa little beeeatch. Go back to licking yourself in your corner, "troll"."
Oh, that one hurt.
But you got the gender wrong, and I'm not that limber. You also semm to have misunderstood the concept of trolling.
"I bow to no one."
Since you hinted that your posterior hurt, I would have thought otherwise.
Again, the dribble in quotation marks was posted by:
Like_It_Matters on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 07:03 PM
What a witty riposte. You never brought up my access to ToV texts, forum access, or your other ranting. Hate to point it out, but you're loosing ground.
And you also seem to have misunderstood another thing. This is not a ToV recruiting site or a troll playpen. It's a site for pointing out scams and hoaxes. If the ToV was what they claim to be, they'd let this blog in peace, as it serves them well to promote secrecy.
Instead we get the sales speach and success stories, as well as gloating morons and posers. The irony...
After reading everything here, I have decided there is just too much reasonable doubt to ever spend my hard-earned money there. Perhaps their secrecy is to hide the many things which have been revealed here in this forum, be them true or untrue. I don't want to be scammed or taken for my cash in the name of any religion. It's just not worth the risk, nor is it worth it to be involved with so much apparent controversy and unrest.
Thank you, Museum of Hoaxes, for providing such a forum. I have since found other resources which have satisfied my needs regarding vampirism.
Since you hinted that your posterior hurt, I would have thought otherwise.
Again, the dribble in quotation marks was posted by:
Like_It_Matters on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 07:03 PM"
ha ha ha ha, further proving your an idiot who sees what YOU want to see. I never typed that. Read it again, GENIUS!! ha ha ha ha...Idol worshipping sheep.
That name of the poster reads, "Like_It_Matters" Do you REALLY think I care about you or any other sheep here? Get a life and go back to your Star Trek conventions.
Edward seems the most intelligent poster here. Nice work EdwardtheImmortal. My laughs are done here. I have no more laughs for the idiots. They bore me, now. Far too predictable.
It's apparent that you're the one projecting. But at least you got the genius part right. And I don't use idols in my rituals, nor do I worship anyone. But since you started out by gloating about being the predator and yadayada, I'd suspect you follow the riuals described in the vampire bible, pay the member fee and all in all is one of Nemo's buttmonkeys.
"That name of the poster reads, "Like_It_Matters"
Do you REALLY think I care about you or any other sheep here?"
Yet you've lashed out at my postings not once, but three times. Seems to me that it matters to you. Did I strike a nerve at some point? Did I pull the right wires, puppet? You say you expected a rant from me, and who is really ranting now? There were several leads in my posts, that would have lead to a proper discussion, yet you focus on the obvious insults and try to start a flamewar. Oh, how you dance, puppet.
And the handle "Like I Matter" would fit you better.
"Get a life and go back to your Star Trek conventions."
Oh, I have a life already. And I'm not a trekkie. You are wrong in your assumptions as usual.
"Edward seems the most intelligent poster here. Nice work EdwardtheImmortal."
Careful, Eddie. He's acting all buddybyddy with you. Watch your ass, or he will do his ToV thing.
"My laughs are done here."
No. You will be back, puppet. Using your usual or another name. After you read this, or in a week or half a year. Why? Because I pull your little strings. Because I've dug myself into your little skull, my words keep nagging you every time you think of this page or vampires, necromancers, or the ToV... or even when you play NWN2. Or am I just saying this to get rid of you? Whatever you do, you run the risk of me winning. And you'll never find out if you're doing what I want you to.
"I have no more laughs for the idiots. They bore me, now. Far too predictable."
Now, that is making me laugh. Guess who's predictable.
The part of the puppet was performed by Like_I_Matter on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 08:58 PM
And the reason I took a stab at you is because the things you say doesn't add up. You've outgrown your illness, but you're looking for a cure. You drink blood for the sake of your concience? You don't know the name of your illness? How will you find a cure, then? Lad, there's no meaning to what you say. Please look through your posts again.
You're also making a big target of yourself by claiming superior intelligence, the key word here being "superior". Calling others names like "retard" or "idiot" doesn't help either. Granted, I do the same thing to LIMmie the puppet, but attacks are paid bach until I'm not amused anymore. And the example with your teacher doesn't prove anything. You might have caught him outside his field or he might have had a bad day.
If you got something constructive to say, then by all means, do so. But trying to get kudos under anonymity is pointless.
But, of course, flaunting your nature will always isolate you from society. It is a natural reaction and shouln't be blamed on others. Don't brag. Don't feed in public (espescially if sanguine). Furthermore, there have been cases of vampire murders, adding to public unease against anyone claiming to be vampires. Then there are the religious screwballs playing vampire slayers. The "predator" role is popular to people in search of empowerment, but to think the roles cannot be switched is naive if not outright stupid.
So it's a matter of perceiving your environment and adapting to it. The secrecy ToV advocates, then kicks the concept into the ditch. Do you now understand my exasperation? The ignorant have a tendency to burn "things" that scare them, starting with fools like LIMmie the puppet.
So if you become an outcast it's because you're ruled by your nature, which in my eyes isn't an excuse.
The illness associated with vampirism is called porphyria. I would recommend caution towards herbal cures, as they are very often ineffective or even damaging to your health. Get some info on porphyria if that is indeed what you suffer from. But in any case, you need the specific name of your illness. Your docter can provide you with that, and your science teacher should have access to scientific databases like Dialog. Get as much info as possible before buying or taking anything.
You guys are really a piece of work. Vampires.. LOL
Give my regards to Mr. Stoker. I have to say though, boys, Halloween isn't for a few months yet.
If the boy is suffering from porphyria, he'll need the information. If he's just trying to pull our leg, I can't really be bothered.
Like I pointed out, my views clash with that of most people, so I was counting on such responses. Proves my puppet wrong again. Seeking sympathy, riiiiight.
Tell me, sweet prince. Do you also bash christians, muslims, vicca and other people believing something different than you? Belief is technically belief, whether it's vampires, dancing destroyers of worlds or flying spagetti monsters.
You clearly percieve this blog as an electronic pissing contest. Perhaps you should try somewhere else, where the gullibility factor is considerably higher, like say... the ToV forum or a WoW server.
Don't worry Edward, there is a place for everyone in this world. I'm almost certain you'll find yours, right up that Nemo fellow's butt crack. Bye.
Great to see you mention the Temple in this context. The ones with the Eyes to see will notice, and the debris will scurry away!
Forever,
Eiwhaz
For the record, I did NOT start the TOV or the Fang Club in Beverly Hills - I was merely an avid supporter. The A&E;"Unexplained" documentary you cite does not in fact make these claims.
I am the founder of Anunnakism - a system of mystical shamanism (http://www.watchersguild.net) - but I was indeed a senior member of the TOV's Priesthood.
I hope this clears up any misunderstandings.
Peace.
Sincerely,
Nicolas Strathloch
5 July 2008
Just to set the record straight - I am no longer a member of the TOV (since 1998) - and I do NOT support their views and "ideals."
I am my own person - I have my own ways - I will not bow to their dogmatic misguided paradigm.
Faith is faith - but theirs is not for me.
Sincerely,
Nicolas Strathloch
5 July 2008
It sure takes a lot of words to say nothing? Acting as if you are enlightened does not make it so. Living in a fantasy goth lifestyle may be fun, but it's also stupid, especially if you're paying someone else to do so. Discrediting other religions does not bring credit to your religion. Too many contradictions... it would appear you don't even know what YOU believe. You've just been taught how to cover all the bases with poetic language. "Know this, though, I have spoken, and what I have said is said" Yeah, yeah, we all know you said something.... can anyone say "unwarranted sense of self importance"?
The bottom line is this - "the temple of the vampire" promises the possibility of immortality... every creature on Earth WILL die eventually. Get your head out of the clouds.
So in turn nemo has no know how in the fields of science. he can't show us because of exposing his true self. you can track people like that easier because they are self important and unknowingly give out info on there location. poor fools.
"Greetings!
Great to see you mention the Temple in this context. The ones with the Eyes to see will notice, and the debris will scurry away!
Forever,
Eiwhaz"
Why do you feel a need to brag if your claims are true? Why waste one keyboard stroke on any puny mortal.
You remind me of some born-again christian coming on here and shouting, "Your going to burn in Hell! Sinner! And Jesus will destroy you all in the Apocalypse! If you repent (join the Temple and pay your tithes) you can be SAVED-uhhhh!"
Hmmm... you sound no better than christians and please stop littering and leaving your bible tracts/temple cards everywhere.
people can't scare me with the fears of this so called hell bullshit.
when you die you basicly go to sleep, its a like a pcs shut down mode, nothing more and if you can't fix they pc type of shut down aka sleeping death as it were. then 4 mins your brain is dead and at 5 mins your nothing more then a corps at that point, i've watched both my mom and my dad die in the hospitals and there really nothing to fear. even after death its very possible to see what the cells aka memory cells have in them, but decoding them is still years away. food for thougt at the very least.
so as for tov its fake and so its all others that want a higher power, well we humans are the higher power and science is the key to unlock all kinds of new doors to find new things to use.
nemo said test eveything an belive nothing.
he broke his own rule when he did not test the truth of what i was telling him, what he did do is not belive me. That rule he follows to the letter, its a contradiction, a play on words
to confuse people into thinking that, "hey wow that sounds really cool," when in fact its a contradiction.
Its the biggest form of classical logic, a contradiction consists of a logical incompatibility between two or more propositions. It occurs when the propositions, taken together, yield two conclusions which form the logical inversions of each other. Illustrating a general tendency in applied logic, Aristotle
"Greetings!
Great to see you mention the Temple in this context. The ones with the Eyes to see will notice, and the debris will scurry away!
Forever,
Eiwhaz"
Why do you feel a need to brag if your claims are true? Why waste one keyboard stroke on any puny mortal.
You remind me of some born-again christian coming on here and shouting, "Your going to burn in Hell! Sinner! And Jesus will destroy you all in the Apocalypse! If you repent (join the Temple and pay your tithes) you can be SAVED-uhhhh!"
Hmmm... you sound no better than christians and please stop littering and leaving your bible tracts/temple cards everywhere. [QUOTE FROM TWO POSTS UP]
[MY POST]
your so right, they use what i call bible copying, meaning they take the bible old or new (your pick) and they replace a few words, like, "bible" becomes, "vampire bible"
"church," becomes, Temple and so one down the line, the same people that made the COS are the same people that made TOV, There method, is this. replace the the word, if it does not look right a vampire before or after the replacement of the word, like as before, bible, becomes vampire bible. The same rule is applyed is COS, aka "Church" of Satan, My logic is this. look at how they use satan and vampire as i break it down into its components
Temple
of
The
Vampire
so if you want to make up your own thing its very easy to do.
like
Temple of the Liers
Church of Dildos
its all very simple to break down into its parts that make it sound better then it really is.
its nothing more then people sharing a milk shake
that has halusagens in it.
to make people see what they want to see and most people will take it up the ass willingly and others like us will question everything and test everything that is the true meaning of life.
"question everything and test everything"
I suppose one could read the book and call it a 'rip off' if it didn't ring true in their mind but in my opinion $20 isn't a steep price to pay considering that the price of a standard hardbound novel is usually higher.
Also, the cost of running an organization, running a website, and publishing the book could hardly, I'd think, be met or profitably exceeded by the low entrance fee.
For myself, this isn't about dollars but rather about investigating different perspectives about a great number of things.
For the record, I am not authorized to speak for the ToV, but I am authorized to speak highly of the people I know there. I have not met a discernable fool among them. The path is simply for some and not for some.
But I hope you do not limit yourself to one source of knowledge. That would indeed be a waste.
And anyone wanting to see Nemo shake his rethoric mambo can see it here: http://www.satannet.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=336160
Really my sole point to make was simple; one could do worse than spend 20 bucks on a subject that interests them. The main focus of the thread seemed to be about the huge financial burden which simply doesn't exist.
... tessa from Philly, I usually don't respond to posts like yours but you're far off base and it shows to a much greater extent than your failure to realize that ordering fangs and a wig would likely cost twice the purchase price of the vampire bible.
By the by Sand, I think i just realized who you are.
And what was with that mental defective who lies about porpherya, that shit is hard core ive seen someone suffer from that. I hope the retard gets the shit he lies about if only for an hour
People can't get enough of these trendy Temples.
*smirk*
George either founded or joined the Kthulhu Pylon (sort of like a local church within the ToS) near Lacy, Washington, and decided to leave the ToS and return to the CoS when he yet again couldn't get into the priesthood. I think another reason that he left was that, like Issac Bonewitz before him, he tried to reform the Temple of Set - he wanted to redefine how they view and relate to Set. Well, the Kthulhu Pylon transformed into the Temple of the Vampire and the rest is pretty much history. George became Lucas Martel for a while, and now goes by the name Nemo. He is a Magister in the CoS, and has written an article that reverses everything he said in his "Secret Source of Satanic philosophy" article now that he's a member of the LaVey cult again."
http://warlockshandbook.com/essays/divide.html
"I'm talking about sheep in wolve's clothing. I'm referring to cult groups who claim to be Satanists but act just like the most dedicated Christian fanatics! I am talking about White Light Mystics who use Satanic trappings.
They are out there and they are dangerous!
How are they dangerous?
Well, in my own case it cost me almost three precious years of my life before I finally saw through the sham of one organization and began to undo the damage it caused to my life.
Yes, I said damage!"
http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/PseudoS.html
And a super immortal so-called "real" vampire is claiming that he was damaged and duped by an organization? Wouldn't a real vampire be able to see through the "sham"?
I also wonder how many ex-Temple members are spending their "three years" undoing the psychological damage that comes from being a Temple Member?
After reading these two excerpts I am convinced that there MAY be some truth to the other website's claims.
I also doubt that Charles Nemo is a so-called real Vampire.
Real Vampires--wouldn't have a need to brag to the mortals (on here and elsewhere) about the coming Apocolypse or feel a need to beat their chests and call others puny mortals.
I think that individuals who have real power do not have to advertise as many so-called Vampires have had in this thread.
But, if you wish to pay for a magical guru then go for it, have fun paying them, jumping through hoops and hanging your Titles on your wall.
http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/Bunco.html