Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the
Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But
Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.
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Would you mind if I gave you a call tomorrow as well?? I am a writer, but I guarantee that everything will remain confidential if you so desire.
My question is, what is the next step? Because as Andrew states, talking about evidence doesn't mean a thing. The pictures are quite compelling to me, especially some of the ones at your site. But we're still a long way from knowing with a surety, and in some ways it still seems like a screwy story with some contradictions (intentional coma drug for six weeks as Gerald just said, or overdose waking up in the morgue as you say now??).
I'd be happy to help generate more interest in the story (I posted one of the overlay videos on YouTube a while back showing the striking nose comparisons and could certainly do more of that kind of thing), but I'd need to be convinced more about this supposed evidence that is mentioned on your site before I'd be willing to put much more effort into it. "A fingerprint match has happened through F.B.I agent D.W.Jones. Laser point measure between pupils says yes. Voice comparison is an affirmative. Photograph comparisons match. Congratulations everybody Jim Morrison is back." That all sounds good but means nothing until the public can see any of it. Can we really expect any more movement on this beyond a couple of people asserting it to be true? How long can we drag this out? I understand if it ever was confirmed and broke out as a major story, that could change things again for Jim in a way that he may not want anymore, in terms of the attention. But then again, why did he allow himself to be pictured and hook up with you and Gerald if he wasn't willing to deal with that? If true, there are really so many questions...
When zooming in on that picture, it appears there may have been some Photoshopping or something done in the part where the nose curves off and elsewhere on the face (a line seems to run across the nose and down the right side of his cheek). However, it's possible that is a naturally occuring photo anomaly... a similar kind of thing happened on a picture of me last fall, where it looked sort of like I had a big bulging blood vessel across the side of my face... so I don't want to call foul play or anything until I can get a better look. But as it is, it does look very suspicious, so a higher resolution picture would be much better to work with to be more sure about whether it has been touched up or not.
I have been encouraged to join this site by Jlizard man. I have scanned the middle and read the front and the back a ways. I really appreciate your encouragement. Some of scans on my site are the poorer of the matierial at hand. For reasons. One guy who had all the answers and handprints sent to his expert, and is now avoiding me. A producer in Dallas. Too trusting. Many of my pictures are in the hands of one of the nation's leading forensic experts. Jim went cooperatively, took x-rays of his mouth and said "Good luck Doctor" on a voice comparison tape of about 4.
My site was thrown together.
Notice the coffee spill on the right hand corner Dennis? I keep telling myself to get with it and build a good site. I can give you a better scan. And will.
Just for the sake of realism Jagged, put your # up here and I will give you a call. Be glad to.
The new site will have some new video strictly of Jim. I will pull some comparisons together and you people do what you want with them. Hopefully this keeps moving forward and we can produce something. I would consider it a joy to talk to some of you. Dennis?
That would be terrific, as well as a new scan of that picture if you have one available (or any other pictures). My e-mail address is dennycrane1414 (at) yahoo (dot) com Please understand that I'm not saying that picture is a fake, only that there is something unusual about it that will prevent it from being taken seriously if touch-up cannot be ruled out. You can't go into battle with broken swords, if you know what I mean...
I actually pass through that area of Oregon now and then and was hoping to meet up with you or Gerald at some point to look at whatever evidence you have on hand and discuss what I might do to help. Of course, I'd love to meet Cowboy Jim, too, but I understand if that's not possible.
Anyway, it's great to have you hear. More input from those who have had direct contact with Cowboy Jim (whether he's the real thing or not) can only be a good thing for this discussion!
That sounds great. I will send my number to your email .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Interesting posts during the last few days..I'm quite excited. If this new thread is true then it would be a mind blowing event of awesome proportions. Considering what has been said; I imagine that the Worlds media are vying to have the first "scoop"..the first photos and the first story of Jims "resurrection".
If all that has been posted is indeed true,I don't believe my cynical expressions would be taken amiss. This is because I remain a cynic..but one who is gasping to be convinced. I want Jim Morrison to be alive, I really do, but I genuinely believe that he died all those years ago. I'm sorry JLiz..sorry Dennis..sorry Highmountainrougue..I've spent over half of my life worshiping him dead..how much more I would love it if he was still alive!
I know that I'm flippant (Bart Simpson etc) But I was right and Dennis confirmed ...thanks mate!..the onus of proof is on you guys..so please prove it!..we're all waiting!
I looked at highmountainrouges site...I'm sorry man, they dont look like Jim to me..firstly he looks too young..and secondly its the eyes...Oh shut up Andrew!!..convince me guys! and I'll believe you forever!
Goodnight all
Andrew
Most tricologists would recognise "male pattern baldness" as was obviously a feature of Jims "last days"..In the same way ones eyebrows don't suddenly become arched to the point of "surprise" without extensive surgury. Jims eyes and especially the brows were low down on his face. Look at the "SoundStage" songs on YouTube if you're in doubt,
Guys I'm not trying to prove you wrong...I'm hoping that you will prove ME wrong! and this isn't just another hoax along side of Andre's..It certianly seems like it right now!
Andrew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f21KBaPKVpU
not saying that isn't possible as he is only human. but his story about how he wrote the song sounds so...i dunno...scripted? that's just my imput. voice is kinda similar?
peace
dgoods
peace again,
dgoods
I am no techie. Watch for my site to improve. We are all busy and I know this is important. Gerald has rambled on and filled in the blanks. He was driven off the ranch for not listening.
http://www.highmountainrogue.com/background.html
to me in no way resembles jim morrison at all even if aged 40-45 years. the second yes i can see a resemblence. anyway, we'll see in time if you can change my mind. one question...why did bill loyer aka "jim morrison" seem to vanish after the pitts thing? are you still in touch jlizard or highmountain rouge?
Find dental records and I'll kiss your....foot. You have to understand the huge private and even legal conspiracy that followed July of 71. Again to remind you, legal experts and theorists have agreed that in traceable history no one has had the deck stacked in their favor like this case, to have survived. Pam claimed he was alive at least 3 times in the news. I heard it. For anybodies information I am Highmountainrogue.com. Alone.
Thanks for the message, I'll send you my phone number right now. Would tomorrow morning work for you?? I should be home all morning, I look forward to hearing from you.
I must admit that a few seconds of the "moonlight Drive" segment were eerily similar to Jims rendition of the original..enough to give me a tingle up my spine.
This is just a general comment on the current thread..not an opinion ok? Its just that towards the end of his time with the Doors, his voice; his singing voice was totally different to the begining..too many cigs..too much shouting and I suspect too many polyps for his original tones to recover. Cowboy Jim sounds way to young to me. Dennis as a musician I wonder if you agree?
As for forgetting a few lines here and there...well sometimes when I've had "a few" I forget how to speak! never mind sing...and we've all heard "no no no" haven't we? assuming that was Jim.
Highmountainrougue, cant wait to hear and see the bombshell that you are about to drop on us all!..Jim Morrison is alive! how awesome is that! I cant wait..I may sound flippant , but really I cant wait. Tell Jim (if he's really there) not to worry about fans...we'd leave him alone if he wanted it. Just proof..once and for all! then this site can close down.
Night night (its late here)
Andrew
Is there a better time that works for you?? I should be available tomorrow after supper. Just let me know what time works for you.
Have a great evenining!!!
Ah, of course... I kept thinking that because it was the first Doors song, in essence, that it was on the first album. It's been a while since I've listened to either of those albums.
And thanks Dennis waiting.
Sounded pretty wasted to me and yes that pick was off the cuff. I have heard Jim sing some stuff and as has been said singing the ol doors songs the last 30 yrs. is not exactly what he was doing. Gotta get to work fellas'. Please bear with me and see what I have. We'll go from there.
Just letting you all know that David and I had a great conversation, we shared stories and had a really great interiew for over an hour. I want to thank David for his time, and I will not reveal any additional information until David is 100% sure that it is OK. I will make contact with Jim next, but I am going to wait for another day, plus I want to make sure that I am not stepping on anyones toes.
Have a great night
Would you be interested in talking to me one on one, under the same terms as David?
I'm obviously not in the "loop" right now! what with telephone calls and emails etc and so on. Seems like the prep for a big scam to me. My friend who REALLY knew Jim Morrison and was with Pam in Paris hasn't heard of these guys ...folks beware..a fraud is in the offing
Andrew
I have talked with people way beyond the scope of what everyone else in any forum has even attempted, and because of that, not only do I have the stories, but I also have actual historical facts and I have photos that are brand new and taken this year with an actual high quality digital camera.
Andrew I'm liking to think we're gonna blow your socks off.
I was working my **s off in 1971. Living this long and not one to be fooled, I am telling you who he is and will maintain that till the day I die. It will make an interesting book.
I am not trying to prove or disprove anything, rather I am writing a book of facts, yes their are some stories from those involved, which I greatly appreciate, but the stories and accounts are simply in place to act as a parallel time line and justifier of the facts.
If you have any justifiable facts please feel free to contact me and we can arrange an interview.
Have a great morning
I thoroughly respect all the time you have put into helping me, and genuinly repect the time you put into defending your good friend 😉 I have some new info that I would be happy to talk to you about.
My earlier comment of a potential scam in the offing was driven by the fact that this site seemed to be developing into a chat area for a select few; a meeting place, if you will, for those who exchanged data, using this site as a kind of "pal" exchange, whereas in fact, it was designed to be a venue for those who can see a forthcoming hoax.
I cast no aspersions on you personally nor highmountain rougue; nor do I doubt that you seek the truth. My problem is that you have already come to a conclusion which you quantify and excuse by the fact that you're writing a book. I'm sorry but a mere book (amongst many others) simply wont cut it for me..no matter how well written or awesome as I'm sure it will be!..I wish you all success by the way, and assure you that I will probably buy it.
As for the person that I refer to, who was a friend of Jims when he was at at UCLA and before in Florida..who subsequently got back in touch with Jim and Pam in Paris shortly before Jims "death", shouldn't be a source of concern for highmountainrougue as this guy is as queer as a ten bob note. His surname is Rodrigues, I wont give you his Christian name at this point without permission, but you guys should remember the name if you were there. It cant be that hard to remember such a singular surname
Guys I welcome your forthcoming "revallations" I really do..but please share with us all and dont use this site for cryptic messages between the "Jim Illuminati"..stick to the thread and illuminate us all, not just your select buddies!
Cheers
Andrew
I've been a musician since 12.
A fresh story is usually always the best story. There are no less than three stories at the offset of that July and August. The truth had already beat the other out of the gate. The same as we have today. Exactly. We were all sad and some dissapointed.
Following the trace of information we were relieved when Pam said "Jim is alive." It was awesome! Espedially after the third time in the new's, and more to different people. She hinted it within months.
I thought Ray Manzerick was wery honorable in that video posted Re: "Yea he's in Oregon haven't you heard?" Close enough for Ray to ask "Doe's this guy have proof?" when visited with by Brett Hudson. A long time correspondant working for Fox News at the time. Also monologueing the Current Affair edition of Jim Morrison discovered.
Keeping it simple as possible and armed with information it is quite believable. My experience has shown that more believe it than not, in general. This site excluded.
I'm sorry but I couldn't quite understand your last entry..I wondered if it was in fact a bit of prose poetry as each line seemed to be a kind of stanza..in any event it didnt make any sense at all..to me in any case. you sound like a pakistani on speed I'm afraid
Cant wait for all your new pics of Jim with conclusive proof as you've been assuring us will happen soon..I really CANT WAIT! I think you'd better back off and let this silly thread subside for awhile and start it up again if you must when newbies appear from time to time and we can start the whole thing over and over again.
Night
Andrew
I feel the same way which is why I keep pushing and prodding..I dont do it to keep getting my written word on this site and astound folk with my prose.. I do it to worm the truth out of people (who either have forgotten what they wrote previously or tie themselves into knots with heresay and rumour) I make a living doing this as I am a London Criminal Lawyer who loves leading folk down a false path in order to reveal the truth.
And the truth is what this site is all about, is it not? I'd love Jim to be alive, but I know that he's not. Which means I suppose that I'm saying that cowboy Jim is a fraud..a hoax..a prank; and those associated with this lie are perpetuating this nonsense in order to make money. I'd like to say at this point, that if I'm wrong then please sue me! I will happily come to the USA to defend my opinion and point of view.
However consider this..I would absolutely demand that Jim came to Court and submitted himself to a blood and DNA test. If he refused to do so I would have a subpoena issued against him followed by a warrant for arrest on sight. The same would apply to his surviving family.
Jagged and Highmountainrogue, if you want to proceed down that path, I will supply my email addy to you and swear that if you wish to take action against me, I will come to the town of your choice; pay for my own living expenses and my own defence..how fair is that?
Of course If the action works for me and against you then I'd obviously take you all to the cleaners and probably bankrupt the lot of you. There thats my challenge!.Will you take me on?..We the fans of Jim need to know the truth..and you guys perpetuating a bizzare new story of a mortuary awakening is bollocks and you know it.
My friend Rodrigues is a real character with photos of Pam and Jim, who if necessary will come to Court with me to disprove these extraordinary hoaxers. Come on guys ..I've thrown down the gauntlet...Sue me..I'm ready for it!
I throw the gauntlet of parley at your feet, will you pick it up to conclude this jim alive charade?
Cheers
Andrew
I am not into chromincally posting on forums, I simply joined to see what people wanted to know, which essentially I would use as some of the direction for my investigations.
Also I did not want to embark on this investigation if Bill was not interested in talking to me(whether he is Jim or not), I m not into trickery or slander. There is such a thing as just being a good human, being honest, sincere, and presenting my findings just as they have been presented to me.
Have a great night and Thank you again for your previous posts.
Jagged