Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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http://vampiretemple.wikia.com/
Bear in mind that only members I authorise as admins will be able to edit and create pages.
http://digg.com/comedy/Temple_of_the_Vampire_Wiki
could somebody tell me who is a main of Vampire Temple or who was founder of Vampire Temple. thanks
The founder of the ToV is George Charles Smith. He is a former Adept from the Temple of Set, currently a Magister in he Church of Satan. He goes by the nicknames "Nemo" and "Lucas Martel". He founded the ToV as a way to make easy money in 1989.
He currently resides in Lacey, Olympia, WA with his wife Ruth. Their son Michael lives with his wife Alli in San Diego. Their names in the ToV are Isabel, Faelyn and Flidais, respectively.
Other important figures in the ToV are David Styles and Erik Bourgeois. Or as they're also known, Linguascelesta and
thanks for unswers. Could you tell me something about their philosophy, its true that they are psy wampire? How can take you your power. And is there som rituals?
Its really bothersome having to repeat ourselves over and over so your efforts would be appreciated.
And your time constraint is not our responsibility so please stop your begging here.
Read here on 501c:
http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=96099,00.html
Call me in the morning.
Back in the 1987, while still in the ToS, George "Nemo" Smith wrote an essay titled "The Hidden Source of the Satanic Philosophy", where he explains that Anton LaVey based his philosophy on Rand's objectivism, and makes a comparison between the Nine Satanic Statements and John Galt's speech on "Atlas Shrugged".
Funnily, Mr Smith himself plagiarized Miss Rand's philosophy when he wrote "The Vampiric Philosophy", which can be found in the "Vampire Priesthood Bible". Therein he explains the epistemology, metaphysics, ethics, politics and ethics of "Vampirism", all of which turn out to be identical to the principles of Objectivism.
Pathetic, huh?
http://www.vampiretemple.com contains all the information you need to understand the Vampire religion.
Go to the source.
Oh David....is that the best you could come up with.
You are a disgrace to the title of "Warlock", for the sake of the CoS and all Satanists, relinquish your title and your Red-Card.
The vampire religeon is a hoax as proved here even before Lu Yang appeared.
I would say that you are lucky you live abroad, when the s**t hits the fan and the IRS looks into the plastic-fanger finances, you may be one of the only ones left standing.
In my opinion (as it all is) you are out of your league here...
You are actually feeling like you have been "had", they didn't let you in on the fact that this was all a money making scheme..did they?
David....You really thought that all of this was true, the immortality, the Undead Gods, the taking of lifeforce!
Like alot of people, you started as a Satanist but was lead astray by nemo and his array of banners...Because they hold titles within the CoS, they must be telling the truth...
David...It's a H-O-A-X!
Actually the TOV website doesn't really tell you anything about the actual religion or what the "candidate" will really be getting themselves involved in. You must actually start spending money before you can even know anything about it, and of course, the ever-changing rules do nothing to ease one's apprehensions.
In fact, a person contemplating joining the Temple of the Vampire CANNOT make an informed decision until they spend money, since no one in the TOV is ALLOWED to discuss the TOV with non-members, or even "lifetime" members who are not "active" members. Then, once they gain entrance to this facade, they realize they must spend more money and eventually hand over their entire personality to a website cult for the sake of a rented title which can be revoked at any second of the day by their charlatan leader, Nemo.
Let us not forget that in order to get into the third circle (aka priesthood or inner temple) you have to take an oath and sign a document that basically hands your soul over to Nemo and his undead goons.
Maybe this wouldn't be so horrendous except for the fact that EVERY MEMBER is EXPECTED to enter into the priesthood, and is in fact, pressured to do so. Imagine a religion that forces every person to become a priest? That's TOV for you.
Seekers are coming to this website (Museum of Hoaxes) because there are facts made available here for them to make an informed decision BEFORE getting involved or making serious commitments about joining a religion.
Of course, there is at this point in time, an overwhelming body of evidence pointing to the Temple of the Vampire as being a complete hoax and money-making scam. At the very least, there is enough reasonable doubt here to make one think hard about getting involved. In addition, there are personal testimonies by people who have been inside the so-called "organization" and eventually saw it for what it was. They are doing the world a great service by sharing their stories here.
The truth remains that there is no actual "temple" and that the Temple of the Vampire is not a real place, and is nothing more than a website with paying followers. No, you are not masters of the human race. No, you are not immortal. No, you are not gods.
As far as the Church of Satan goes, in my opinion it deserves it's very own thread. Many of the COS members here, either deliberately, or accidently, have shown that "organization" to be quite similar in nature to it's vampire "brothers." This should not be such a shocker, really, since it's the same people running it, or mutual friends at the very least. You guys fighting don't really stand a chance outside of starting your own COS, as many others have done. The COS LaVey created has long been deceased. Great work, nonetheless guys.
Gabriel, I like your style (you know who you are).
Happy Walpurgis Night, David. Give my regards to Nemo.
(To the last poster posing as "That Guy" - stop being so immature, Slovakian troll!).
I just tried to log into LttD and I've been banned for no reason at all. My last post there was over 2 years ago!
Your account has been banned or locked. This is a permanent ban. If the Administrator has specified a reason for this ban, you will find it below.
See Magistra Nadramia.
Haha, what a joke.
Further proof that the "unofficial" CoS forum, LttD and the ToV are one big business run by Ventrue, Nadramia, Nemo and company.
You had been wondering in previous posts what the aUI phrase "bnU cEb kU can A".
It roughly translates to "We are Eternal Gods".
I didn't write that but obviously my posting rattled someone's feathers to the point where they felt a need to impersonate me and try to discredit what I said.
Nice try though.
LuYang, last time I checked (several months back) all the websites of both organizations were being hosted out of the same IP address.
Yes, I learned that somewhere else. Do you know why they specifically chose to use aUI? I remember reading somewhere that aUI was more exact--and it is, as there's a one-to-one correspondence between morphemes and meaning--and therefore better for ritual purposes, but do you think it's just part of Nemo's overriding fascination with aliens?
I'm betting it's no coincidence that the ToV's ritual language is a purported alien language, but you'd know better than me, having risen all the way to the top.
Try posting on their message board. They'll tell you that you have to be at such-and-such degree to receive an answer to your questions.
"There is no relationship apart from the fact that
some of our Members belong (a fact that I
discovered as a result of your disclosures).
CI has no rules excluding Members from
belonging to any other organizations.
--Ben Best."
So why is Nemo afraid of his cult members linking cryonics with his Temple?
aUI, as I've already said, was invented (or received) by a psychologist in Iowa, who claimed it was taught to him by little green extraterrestrials. The whole point of the conlang is that every sound has a corresponding meaning (which is termed "oligosynthesis" in linguistic parlance). The aliens supposedly gave it to him because it was supposed to bring about peace and stop nuclear annihilation or something like that.
Somebody from the ToV claimed it was supposed to be a very exact ritual language, as you express exactly what you mean far better than any natural, human language (human language is, after all, FULL of ambiguities). aUI gets rid of those ambiguities and allows you to express your ritual intentions as accurately as possible. Anyway, that's what a ToV member claimed somewhere (probably on here).
But I think Nemo uses it because of its associations with aliens. The ToV believes that Vampires are responsible for "alien abductions" (which are really forcible Vampiric metamorphoses), so it would be natural to believe (at least in the ToV ritual framework) that aUI was really received from Vampires disguised as aliens.
The whole thing is obviously very silly.
The credibility of your organization is tarnished by the temple of the vampire cult.
Plain and simple.
http://www.angelfire.com/mac2/hhgproductions/ToV.html
Nemo....You can pound sand!
You are a fake!
http://www.satannet.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=420289#Post420289
Hail Reverend Bill M for keeping it real in the name of true Satanists!
Of course the thread is immediately locked!
Come on Rojo.....why waste your time! Nemo is a fake and you know it!
Hell of Hells.....I'm a little surprised at you too, your music is cool, I just can't believe that you believe Nemo's crap.
Even though you were in a COS Documentary, with TOV mention.
"What is the Inner Council, is it like the Council of Nine of the Church of Satan?"---
Yes, it seem to be the same. Lavey would be proud.
What a bullshit interview.
"aUI: The Language of Space: For the First Time Represented and Adapted to the Needs of This Planet" (1967)
"Cosmic Elements of Meaning: Symbols of the Spirit's Life: A Cosmology for Mankind's Survival in the Atomic Age of Space" (1975)
You can find them used on Amazon, but they're ridiculously expensive. I suggest searching WorldCat for a library near you, and loaning them out from there.
She said it. Spot on.
And "New Light" - good luck on selling the ToV books!
Isn't it time for you to end the "experiment"?
Old man, your hip will break once your pocket gets too heavy.
I have for many years now been quite fascinated with Dr. Anton LaVey and Satanism, and for me the Church of Satan sadly have been a huge disappointment because of what seems to me like a strict demand for conformity (which every LttD-member seem to dismiss because most Satanists have a wide range of interests...but how is discussing core fundaments of a beloved philosophy un-Satanic?)... But I apologize, I`m rambling here.
I really like what you people do here, because the Cos` ties with ToV has really made me lose interest in Satanism to some extent...
This has been my line of thought:
"If high-ranking members, who even knew Anton LaVey himself, is supporting the ToV this strong, WHAT am I NOT getting when it comes to Satanism, which I feel actually is a philosophy I could have identified with?"
And I am certain that many, many other individuals also get discouraged from even exploring more about Satanism, because of Adept/Magister Nemo and his lot, just like I am/was.....
Respect!
I got this email from a 'friend' at the Immortality Institute:
"I don't know if you are aware of it, but there are some serious discussions going on among the board. I also noticed that Ben Best has checked in on this. It looks like David is going to be asked to vacate his leadership position; at least that's the way it's shaping up so far. I think it's very important for the legitimate life extension community, both ImmInst and the Cryonics world, to divorce themselves thoroughly from the ToV. I suspect that is what you want as well. In order to avoid damage to the Institute, cryonics, and the very concept of life extension, I think that you should not go public with this, although that could be held in abeyance as a threat. The important thing is to get the committed leaders both here and in the cryonics community to be fully aware of the actions and nature of the ToV, and the extent to which their members overlap with us. I think once that is clear among all of the leadership, they will make the right decisions. The best way for you to play this is to present yourself as calm and factual, and not vindictive. Don't make it an "anti-David" stance, but rather a prudent unmasking of the truth. Try to present yourself as being on the side of the life extension movement, otherwise people may think that you are trying to harm it. Try to ignore any insults you may get, as those are very likely to be coming from people who are not yet fully informed.
Best of Luck
*****
"
Wow. So the ToV can no longer affiliate with the Cryonics Institute - which they base their entire Dayside philosophy around. Wonderful!
Now they have to solely rely on their wacky Nightside philosophy thus damaging their credibility among CoS members and intelligent people alike.
This was the way it used to be until CoS became actively involved with the Temple so heavily - and absolutely NO ONE, except new age types they attracted from the back page of the tabloid ads they would post took them seriously.
This is indeed a great victory! Hail Satan!