Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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Here is why.
When I was man_mind on LttD forums, I used trace route to end the debate on who was ToV and who was CoS, and it was met with lackies galore (Actually only two) who came in to sling retarded comment after retarded comment about how many many people use the same providers, etc etc.
Now.....
"All my projects and companies will remain along with churchofsatan.com, vampiretemple.com, and coopstuff.com ... all of these sites, I monitor personally and upgrade or fix any security issues as they come out."
He said it himself.. he runs all the shit. Now he's charging money to use LttD and Undercroft.. No wonder he was selling Undercroft so hard:
http://www.satannet.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=363390&page=1
This was sent to me.
HAHAHAHA. Fuckin lame ass's.
Who really wants to join ToV or CoS? I know I refuse to pay to become a ding-a-ling who has masters who can't even be honest with themselves. As if the first half of that sentence wasn't enough to deter someone.
I'll contribute a personal theory on the TOV to this discussion now:
Diabolus Rex wrote 2 rituals for the Temple of Set's Ruby Tablet of Set. This would have been around the time Nemo was involved in that organization though I haven't been able to find more info on Rex's involvement in the TOS. From what I understand they would have both left the COS for the TOS around the same time- and returned to the Church around the same time. When they left, the TOV was founded and both were Adepts in it.
This has led me to develop this possible theory: the TOV is a parody of the Temple of Set. Perhaps they intentionally joined the TOS just to learn what it was like on the inside, left when they had enough info and set up the TOV to mock the TOS and drain away potential members.
When you consider how machivellian Satanism can be, it makes a lot of sense as possibility doesn't it? Perhaps a group of Satanists agreed in the 80s to pretend to be disillusioned with the COS and "defect" to the TOS- only to sabotoge it.
Interesting, this must be a new policy because when I was a member they used to preach that the ToV was not a revolving door and will not let you back in once you leave.
Are only top shape vampires worthy of belonging to the ToV?
Is cryonics the only immortality angle that the temple has?
I am disabled and in pain 24/7 and the concept of the all powerful everlasting vampire who will take part in ruling the world is laughable and absurd to me. People who are in good health might have to discern a little harder about this bullshit. People who are not so healthy see things in sharp contrast and don't take so much for granted. We aren't open to as much metaphysical brainwashing as others are (unless we are the super fools who go to idiot Christian healing services).
The peer pressure on members of the ToV to be and act a certain way must be tremendous.
There's been lots of anti-Christian sentiment expressed in these comments, but you know, at least Catholics understand that and have big families. That makes them smarter than the antisocial, narcissistic jerks who join mailorder cults like The Temple of the Vampire.
Ironically, the only people being preyed on are the ones gullible enough to send money to the con artists running this operation.
Not to mention Nietzsche, Anne Rice, William Bramley, Von Daniken, Zecharia Sitchin, William Meyers, and J. G. Eccarius.
You know, if the "Vampire Bible" were being published as fiction, or as a literary hoax like the Necronomicon, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But I believe the ideas that are being peddled by this cult are psychologically harmful, particularly to the vulnerable segments of the population that are being targeted (i.e., alienated teens/young adults and schizophrenics). The people who are running this scam are utterly amoral scumbags, almost as bad in my view as pimps or drug dealers. It's not because you *can* screw people that you *should*.
MLM wrote: "Also, one who has researched such things, will notice there are strong similarities between the Temple of Set teachings and ToV teachings."
If I'm not mistaken, the Temple of Set has or had an "Order of the Vampire" or something along that line.
Is cryonics the only immortality angle that the temple has?
Actually, the only one's "worthy" are the one's who have enough money to pay for cryonics, pay for membership fees, pay for books, and pay for jewelry from the Temple.
Yes, as some presume in this topic, there is high pressure sales, to buy and do all these things under the guise of
Is there anything of substance which you gain once you are 'inside', or is the main behavior of your peers wrapped around 'advancement via money'?
In other words - why are there people who have been members for a long time?
I've noticed several members are people who are in professional positions and hold various degrees in science, ect.
I wonder if people stay around because it's a kind of fun social clique for the rich and bored.
My concern is for the less fortunate who become psychological prey.
You can gain some useful knowledge but nothing to extraordinary.
As far as why some stay, some claim that their experiences are what keep them there while I felt others may have been their for social reasons.
In other words - why are there people who have been members for a long time?
I've noticed several members are people who are in professional positions and hold various degrees in science, ect.
Many intelligent people have allowed themselves to be members of other cults and brainwashed too.
Does the TOV stuff work? Is it effective?
There is your answer.
Does the TOV stuff work? Is it effective?
There is your answer."
Sounds like a double-speak answer Nemo would give, doesn't it?
It's not a matter if it works or not.
The effectiveness of the ToV truth hinges on the ten dollars a month you fork over to be a 'vampire'.
The rest is a delusion of grandeur.
Sometimes I feel like
somebody's watching me.
Great pun Mr. Jackson.
I'm looking to skip all the pleantries and boost right up to Adept, I was thinking, would it be possible to flow you about a 1k and get right up in the mix of things?
I'm so frustrated being a snide wannabe.
I should just break down and pay month in and month out to be a genuine for real vampire and live forever (along with my human slaves of course).
I can't wait for the Final Harvest, which is when the heads of the ToV cash in their stocks. By that that time I'll be a cryonic frozen stiff, awaiting my Immortality.
What a thrill! Yeppers . . . you betcha!
I am not convinced that you are not Nemo because he doesn't talk in street lingo using terms like "dude" or "word".
I really don't think you are helping out this discussion by pretending to be someone you are not.
If you have something useful to contribute then please do; otherwise, why waste your time just shooting off your mouth on here?
If you are a Temple member then, from the sound of your postings, you do not sound like a "ruler of the earth" like you think you are.
Also, if you are watching us then what is the point--what IS the point? By the way, did you see me flush my copy of The Vampire Bible (my money) down my toilet while you were watching like some omnipresent God?
Flushing the Vampire bible down the commode was the best move I made since I had joined the ToV at that time.
I thought I heard some voice coming from the commode saying "hogwash" while the water swirled the pieces down the hole to be lost to the winds of time.
P.s. Maybe Nemo should start offering "senior discounts" to older members because they are closer to a rest home than younger members. LOL!
Posted by Charles Nemo in Hell, MI on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 06:37 PM
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And Temple of the Vampire is the epitome of silence
Wow 'Nemo'. I guess this is the part where I'm supposed to get all nervous and threatened.
Yo Nemo from Hell. Your a parasite. You suck attention, and the more people respond to you, the more crap comes out of your mouth.
The best thing for you is to be ignored, which is what I'm doing as soon as I get this statement completed.
Most likely you will type off some idiot reply to my letter, just to draw attention to yourself and keep the ball rolling.
It's a good idea that nobody responds to you at all. You love the attention, don't you?
Your babbling is an irritant, like a fly.
You can trash me all you want "Nemo". I won't respond to a moron like you.
Neither should anyone else on this forum.
You're a waste.
Laughing, sounds like another cheap shameless sales plug. 😉
Also, Charles Nemo (not the same Nemo) maybe there has been a case of mistaken identity and it was nobody's intent here to attack you on a personal level. If you also read in my previous posts, I said I wasn't sure if the Nemo's mentioned in the other posted links were the ToV's Nemo.
I was just trying to figure out through deductive reasoning who the ToV Nemo was out of simple curiosity. Then again, as I had stated, the links that I provided were not meant to be stated as facts and I made no absolute claim that anyone in those links was the ToV's Nemo.
I also assure you that I wasn't having a meltdown and I feel calm and comfortable.
If you feel your identity has been mistaken then please tell us, briefly, about yourself and who you are.
After that, if you can offer some helpful information in regards to the ToV topic here then we would be interested.
Otherwise, if you are just here to taunt and make your own personal attacks against others here then what is the point? If this is your intent, then why are you wasting your time here if you really have nothing to say about the ToV topic?
Do you need attention?
If you continue this attitude then I suggest to all here to just ignore this individuals postings. The more attention you give someone with this type of attitude the more they will keep going on an on. 😉
Your suspicion is correct. I don't use the name "Nemo" or "Adept Nemo". I'm surprised that there's such a furor. (Three sentences!) :wow:
Good going Private,Rupert,Dracula777. DUH!!
I mean why not start bitching about Christianity or Catholicism? They ask for a helleva lot more money than most religions or organizations..and have the monopoly of pedophiles at that! Now there's something worth HATING in my opinion!
I think the crux of the matter is that the TOV is a "pay per view" club that is a mixture of practical and esoteric knowledge, neither of which is original but is pawned off as being so anyways.
Make it all secret under the threat of expulsion and there you have it: a self feeding pyramid scheme, as dogmatic and fascist as Christianity itself.
The TOV states that the 'vampires' inside it's temple are the 'only true vampires' in existence.
Arrogance Deluxe.
You almost expect Nemo to say "I am the way, the truth, and the life" if you know what I'm saying.
But this 'One Way' mentality is precisely what keeps this club together.
"Believe Nothing But What We Want You To" is actually the full statement to their winged skull logo. You must have faith to belong to the TOV, just like you would if you were a Christian.
You have to be a born-again vampire, according to 'the word' - in this case, not one, but many bibles.
There is nothing wrong with feeling you are a part of something. But when you are being emotionally manipulated in order to make a small inner circle wealthy off of your ignorance - it becomes an endeavor that is ethically bankrupt.