Vampire Sites

Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book, The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.

Paranormal

Posted on Wed Oct 29, 2003



Comments

What is Rupert's "heard", exactly?
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 04, 2010  at  04:10 PM
Mr. Sand....Dare I disturb your Satanic Slumber?

I feel the need to Summon you, only to share with you the Futile attempts of the Pond Fishermen to defend themselves against swarms of Mosquitos.

"Lord of the Flies"
Posted by Rupert  on  Thu Nov 04, 2010  at  04:35 PM
What is Rupert's "heard", exactly?

Looks like a spelling error actually.

Lu Yang Ravi de te voir!

Don't mind the troll, she is not intelligent enough to speak on the actual topic.

I'm sure her master will repremand her for not being a good representative of Dayside Mastery.

"Lord of the Flies"
Posted by Rupert  on  Thu Nov 04, 2010  at  04:47 PM
I don't see the humor here and I am not laughing.
Posted by Private  on  Thu Nov 04, 2010  at  08:10 PM
Your efforts at diverting attention to another topic, other than the one at hand, are futile and pathetic.

What needed to be said...has been said and will remain here for everyone to read.

Death to the damn ToV.
Posted by LuYang  on  Fri Nov 05, 2010  at  05:52 AM
Hi,

If anyone is interested, I am selling all 5 ToV bibles along with Bloodlines I & II, Revelations, Reflections and the Dayside Mastery book. Also I am selling the Temple ring and Medallion along with a ToV logo t-shirt I bought from Ventrue's emporium.

If anyone is interested contact me: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

PS: Guys, great work exposing the ToV scam. Keep it up!
Posted by Ex-TOV  on  Fri Nov 05, 2010  at  06:13 AM
Curious how, when David & Ellen's sex lives are mentioned, we do not see Lu Yang write about his numerous sexcapades with both of them 😊.
Posted by Amused  on  Fri Nov 05, 2010  at  02:51 PM
"Curious how, when David & Ellen's sex lives are mentioned, we do not see Lu Yang write about his numerous sexcapades with both of them"

Nobody really cares.

Maybe if the Warlock wrote about it on LttD then it could be copied and pasted here as the other quote was....otherwise it's just you talking s**t.

Temple of the Vampire Hoax

"Lord of the Flies"
Posted by Rupert  on  Fri Nov 05, 2010  at  04:18 PM
Spam and sock puppets. Bide your time and they will be deleted.

It is interesting how this place is getting attention. And such responses. My favorite is still the plea for tolerance. The rest..... Ridicule. Threats. Spam. A hopelessly amateurish malediction. Even a rallying cry from a vampire fundamentalist.

You have no idea how much you've given away.

No matter. Things are moving in the right direction. The last couple of pages reeks of desperation. Comedians indeed.

To the people who feel the need to take up the vampire way of life I'll recommend http://www.sanguinarius.org/ . Some people there might know how to help you. The ToV techniques might trigger you, but that is more out of coincidence than intent, and you will be without proper guidance. On the first page here I listed a few places you might find answers as well.

Gentlemen.
Posted by Sand  on  Fri Nov 05, 2010  at  06:50 PM
Why do people think phineas is a vampire? He never said he was did he?

It might be useful to do a list here of every known vampire from top rank down to just people with vampire links in their sites and lttd names. And a note for all of them how we know theyre vampires and who they really are if we know.

Also I think all the comedy things are from one person. And we should list exvampires too so we know whos on our side.
Posted by larpergod  on  Fri Nov 05, 2010  at  08:02 PM
I see there is censorship going on here. A crop of posts were deleted.
What is your problem with the Temple of the Vampire?
I see personal attacks against a couple of members but why take it out on an entire organization that has helped people in their lives?
Why all this hate?
Could someone just lay it on the table.
What does it take for this nonsense to stop?
What is it *SPECIFICALLY* that you want?
People are benefiting from the Temple.
Why infringe on their happiness?
Why make other people upset by attacking their religion?
Posted by Confused  on  Fri Nov 05, 2010  at  10:22 PM
Yeah, a crop of posts were deleted, due to their spammy/off-topic nature.

Please keep in mind that this website is not affiliated with the ToV, or those against it. In fact, I suggest you read the Museum of Hoaxes About page to see what this place is actually about.

As for "stopping the nonsense", I suppose I could always arrange for this particular post to be closed to further comments...but I'm sure that would cause more outcry and claims of censorship.

~moderator~
Posted by Smerk  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  01:59 AM
Your "censorship" is nothing but the deletion of the spam that was a sad diversionary tactic. Ironic, really. Boards controlled by the ToV see revisions regularly, so this mewling about censorship is kind of misplaced. If you look again, you might notice the pro-ToV posts are still here.

As to why the hate. Maybe if you read from page one, you might find out.
Posted by Sand  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  02:30 AM
"Curious how, when David & Ellen's sex lives are mentioned, we do not see Lu Yang write about his numerous sexcapades with both of them"

How dare you make such allegations? Do you even know who I am?

But in any case, your claims are meaningless, as I - unlike Styles - don't have a "reputation" to defend on the Internet.
Posted by LuYang  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  03:00 AM
Moderator, please shut down this message thread. There is nothing but hate, prejudice, and lies hurled against a religion.
Do you want the Museum of Hoaxes to be associated with hate, bigotry and prejudice?
This thread is nothing but hate speech.
I did not think so.
Please close this thread down.
It is the smart thing to do.
Posted by Benjamin  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  09:49 AM
A religion? You mean a cult.
Posted by LuYang  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  10:39 AM
And thus starts the begging phase.

But, yes. You probably nailed it down pretty well. Some of the people posting here hate the bigotry and prejudice of the ToV.

It would be sad to see the thread locked, though. There is a lot of info to be found from the posts. Some good material on satanic philosophy and outlook as well as the motivation of former as well as current members of the ToV.

As to listing every known vampire as well as former members, that would however be pointless. Especially since it might bring problems to the ones who got out of the cult. Besides, there are enough screwballs running around, dreaming of being the next Buffy the vampire slayer.

Or was that Fluffy the vampire layer? Hmmm...
Posted by Sand  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  10:43 AM
Sand wrote,
"It would be sad to see the thread locked, though. There is a lot of info to be found from the posts. Some good material on satanic philosophy"

Incredible. You want to promote Satanism in the world. How sad. With all the problems in the world, you are defending this thread because there is "good material" on "satanic philosophy."
Amazing. What is the world coming to?
Is there not enough hate, intolerance, and evil in the world that you need to promote Satanism?

Moderator, you can see it for yourself.
You want to continue a thread that promotes Satanism?
The Museum of Hoaxes wants to be associated with Satanism?
Stop the bigotry, the racism, the hatred on the museum of hoaxes.
Stop the Satanists.
Stop them Now.

BTW Lu Yang is a chick not a dude
Posted by Benjamin  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  11:39 AM
Museum of Hoaxes Operator/list owner,

Please put an end to this thread that is slandering productive ladies and gentlemen as well as serving as a pit stop for racists, bigots, and other antisocial types.
They are also promoting Satanism unabashedly.
Please remove this Satanism smear from the Museum of Hoaxes by closing this unnecessary and hateful thread.
Cheers.
Roland
Posted by Roland  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  05:33 PM
"Incredible. You want to promote Satanism in the world. How sad. With all the problems in the world, you are defending this thread because there is "good material" on "satanic philosophy."
Amazing. What is the world coming to?
Is there not enough hate, intolerance, and evil in the world that you need to promote Satanism?"

What's really sad is that I'm sure you are a member of LttD, if not many of your fellow ToV are.

If it weren't for Satanism you wouldn't have a ToV.

You aren't very good at keeping a disguise....

This board is about exposing a Hoax, which we intend to do.

Nowhere in this thread has anybody encouraged anyone to be a part of Satanism....Proselytizing is something that we don't do.

"Lord of the Flies"
Posted by Rupert  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  05:49 PM
Still trying to play wing man? This is so sad in an amusing way.

"Incredible. You want to promote Satanism in the world. How sad. With all the problems in the world, you are defending this thread because there is "good material" on "satanic philosophy."
Amazing. What is the world coming to?
Is there not enough hate, intolerance, and evil in the world that you need to promote Satanism?"

Promote satanism? No. I seek knowledge. And satanism is a manifestation of part of the human psyche. Make no mistake. I do not share paradigm with the good ladies and gentlemen advocating a seperation between CoS and ToV. I do find some of their viewpoints sound. It is ignorant to call satanism evil, by the way. If anything, this board and its links shows a wide variation of mindsets and ethics within the CoS.

This plea for decency is indeed a new low. There has been no sound arguments from the ToV, and this desperate attempt to drag political correctness into the discussion is pathetic. Amongst the people speaking against the ToV, who has been advocating racism? Noone.

Go on. Blubber some more. You probably can't dig that hole of yours any deeper. And bring your sock puppets. You need all the help you can get.
Posted by Sand  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  06:21 PM
I find it hypocritical and ignorant that there are those on here claiming that Satanism is all about hate and so-called evil which is LIES started by anti-Satanism Christian propaganda. Remember, it is Satanists who define what Satanism is and NOT Christians or other assholes. Actually, these people whining in this thread are hypocrites complaining about so-called "evil" Satanists and their hate and intolerance when speaking about a religion they OBVIOUSLY know nothing about. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black... I suggest intelligent people read the CoS website and Satanic Bible at least a couple of times before having and opinion about Satanism or requesting that Satanists be silenced in this thread.
Posted by Private  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  07:04 PM
It makes me sick to my stomach that the list owner/operator of Museum of Hoaxes allows Satanists to push their agenda here.
I did not know the Museum of Hoaxes was aligned with Satanism.
Satanism is the source of problems and evil in the world. We need to get together and resolve our differences like adults and not resort to Satanism.
It is unethical to promote a belief system that encourages hate, bigotry, intolerance, and evil on this website.
We should be thinking of ways to bring people together and not set them apart through hate speech such as is occurring here on a regular basis.
Please stop this thread once and for all.
Do it now.
It is in your best interest.
It is in everyone's best interest.
Stand against intolerance and bigotry. Stand against the hate speech.
It's right thing to do.
It's the only thing to do.
Posted by Yeusha  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  08:15 PM
Oh Please....

First it's the Comedy distraction, now it's the "don't align yourself with Satanism" distraction!

I wish that you legitimately felt that way about Satanism because then you might consider severing the ties that you have with the CoS.

You are the the ToV, sever the ties if you believe what you write here!

What a pitiful, pathetically-sick attempt....I wonder if Nemo or Phineas has signed off on this lates outburst?

Whether you know it or not you smearing mud on a few ToV members faces, who also hold high ranking in the CoS....

I'm not personally offended by this action but as far as your concerned it's a double-edged sword.

You can't hide the fact that you are ToV, thus your words have dual implications.

"Lord of the Flies"
Posted by Rupert  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  08:41 PM
Here is an exerpt from Wikipedia on Multilevel Marketing, you may find a significant amount of similarity to the ToV business plan in it's words.

"Multi-level marketing (MLM) is a marketing strategy in which the sales force is compensated not only for sales they personally generate, but also for the sales of others they recruit, creating a downline of distributors and a hierarchy of multiple levels of compensation. Other terms for MLM include network marketing,[1][2][3][4][5] direct selling,[6][3] and referral marketing.[7][8][9][10][11][12]

Although the products and company are supposed to be marketed directly to consumers and potential business partners by means of relationship referrals and word of mouth marketing,[13] critics have charged that most MLMs are pyramid schemes.[14]

MLM companies have been a frequent subject of criticism as well as the target of lawsuits. Criticism has focused on their similarity to illegal pyramid schemes, price-fixing of products, high initial start-up costs, emphasis on recruitment of lower-tiered salespeople over actual sales, encouraging if not requiring salespeople to purchase and use the company's products, potential exploitation of personal relationships which are used as new sales and recruiting targets, complex and sometimes exaggerated compensation schemes, and cult-like techniques which some groups use to enhance their members' enthusiasm and devotion. Not all MLM companies operate the same way, and MLM groups have persistently denied that their techniques are anything but legitimate business practices."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing
Posted by Rupert  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  08:59 PM
I would like to point out that this "Rupert" person is a self professed Satanist. He and other devil worshipers have been spewing their bigoted hate speech against righteous people who choose to indulge in vampire mythology and life extension possibilities as their religion.
It is outrageous, appalling, and insulting to see Satanists and their agenda being given a voice on this forum.
I would think twice before taking anything a Satanist says seriously. After all, they worship the Father of Lies.
Posted by Chic  on  Sat Nov 06, 2010  at  11:55 PM
now we see the true face of the temple of the vampire willing to attack satanism itself in a vain shot at scaring our kind host the museum of hoaxes into deleting a thread revealing their lies and orthodoxy. look well lttd members and church of satan hierarchy and see how nemo and his pawns will throw you and lavey to the dogs to protect their cash cow. sever the leech nemo before he takes you all down.
Posted by .  on  Sun Nov 07, 2010  at  01:08 AM
@Nephelim:

Marius, if you are still here. I was pleasantly suprised by your way of posting, could we talk in private? I've got the feeling you could answer some of my questions truthfully.
I will contact you if you post your e-mail adress.

@Everyone:
You can now order all of the ToV books without applying for higher grades and whether or not you have a current active subscribing membership.

HS!
Mouse
Posted by Mouse  on  Sun Nov 07, 2010  at  06:55 AM
Please post your questions here and I will answer them in the best way that I can.

Marius
Posted by Marius  on  Sun Nov 07, 2010  at  11:50 AM
Nephelim,

Are you Marius Huseby by any chance?
Posted by NightandDay  on  Sun Nov 07, 2010  at  12:27 PM
I came to the museum of hoaxes to entertain myself and what I found is a sounding board for the beliefs of Satanists? what kind of a place is this? you need to get lives people, the worship of Satan will get you nowhere!

ATT: MUSEUM OF HOAXES LIST OWNER

The people who are posting hate speech against members of a minority religion are self avowed Satanists! They are not even hiding it, they are stating it right here.

Why are the moderators hosting a thread for Satanists to march their agenda?

Does not Google sponsor this site? Is that not against the terms of service?

PLEASE END THIS LIST NOW.
Posted by AgainstheDevil  on  Sun Nov 07, 2010  at  01:14 PM
"now we see the true face of the temple of the vampire willing to attack satanism itself in a vain shot at scaring our kind host the museum of hoaxes into deleting a thread revealing their lies and orthodoxy. look well lttd members and church of satan hierarchy and see how nemo and his pawns will throw you and lavey to the dogs to protect their cash cow. sever the leech nemo before he takes you all down."

I'm sure Magus Gilmore would agree that Real Satanists would not involve themselves in a thread attacking their own. By posting here against the Temple of the Vampires, you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are not Real Satanists. If your identities where known you would be booted from the Church.
I'd wager all of you are just Registered members. In other words, you are not _real_ members, you are on the outside looking in and will never truly get it.
I have better things to do with my time.
Hail Satan!
Hail Tiamat!
Crowley
Posted by Crowley  on  Sun Nov 07, 2010  at  01:22 PM
@AgainstheDevil

If you don't find this entertaining, you should seek fulfillment of your desires elsewhere....

@Marius/Nephelim

Are you a member of the CoS? If so, what grade?
How do you feel about the ToV?
Have you visited the Esoteric Archives?

HS!
Posted by Mouse  on  Sun Nov 07, 2010  at  01:32 PM
Here is the truth about Satanism,
http://www.relfe.com/07/Bill_William_Schnoebelen.html

Note that he was never a member of the Temple of the Vampire.
He was a member of the Church of Satan.
Posted by Lacey  on  Sun Nov 07, 2010  at  02:43 PM
You shit faced vampires are going down. You are the ones that are not real Satanists. Your beliefs and religion are fucking pathetic. We will weed all of you out of the Church soon enough!

HAIL SATAN!
Posted by Scott  on  Sun Nov 07, 2010  at  02:53 PM
hey scott, are you scott hall from wwe? you know kevin nash and scott hall..the outsiders?
Posted by humm  on  Mon Nov 08, 2010  at  12:43 AM
Unfortunately, I knew the narcissistic attention whore Craigslist-like Trolls would eventually make their way here... *rolls eyes*

I suggest that those new here start at the beginning and read those posts because the last 30 or so posts is petty nonsense and troll vomit.
Posted by Private  on  Mon Nov 08, 2010  at  05:02 AM
I don't understand why everyone here is speaking against a minority religion! The purpose of this forum is to hurt members of a minority religion. The funny part is that those who are the hate mongers happen to be SATANISTS! LOL!
The fact that SATANISTS are against this religion must mean that there must be something good, ethical, and constructive in the Temple of the Vampire. That is why you hate it so much that you desire to tear it down.
All of you Satanists are atheists who do not believe in the power of the soul and those that do. How sad.
The Temple of the Vampire is a place of construction. What is being constructed just happens to be your psyche. You are the ultimate creation in your life. The Temple just gives you the tools for you to make the most of the art that is your True Self- The Dragon.
Posted by Gx  on  Mon Nov 08, 2010  at  03:39 PM
I don't think questioning the Temple, finding disagreements, and stating that one thinks it is a hoax is "hate speech". Furthermore, those of us who have criticized the Temple have not made any criminal threats towards the Temple or its members.

Also, the last time I checked their "was" a thing called "freedom of speech" and I am sure the ToV. I imagine you don't want silenced yet you want to take away other's freedom to agree to disagree with the ToV's claim it is the "real deal".

Yes, I love how crybabies go around and label any criticism as "hate speech" these days in order to censor those they disagree with. 😉

Also, claiming the Museum of Hoaxes supports Satanism because of this thread is not fair to the MoH. This is like saying someone is a serial killer because they have a true crime website.

Lastly, you are junking up this forum with non-sense and with your own bigoted lies about Satanism.

Does your own religion not say to not bear false witness like you are doing here? You are breaking one of your own ten commandments on here by making up lies and false statements about Satanists.

I rather not have to make posts like this so could we get back to the ToV topic--PLEASE!

Please have some respect for the topic and this thread.

Thank You
Posted by Private  on  Mon Nov 08, 2010  at  06:20 PM
In order to be a Graded Member of the Temple of the Vampire no membership in the Church of Satan is required. In fact, only a a small group of Temple of the Vampire members are Satanists. Most Temple of the Vampire members are not Satanists and have no interest in Satanism. Some TOV members enjoy dual membership for purely aesthetic reasons but those who have taken the Oath know where there true loyalty lies. To become a member of the Temple of the Vampire is not an affirmation or condolence of any kind of Satanism. Please do not confuse the two. That is an error many make.
Posted by Gx  on  Mon Nov 08, 2010  at  06:34 PM
Gx,

We know that.

But bear in mind that the ToV would have never come into being if it wasn't for the CoS, AND the Temple of Set, whence Nemo came.
Posted by LuYang  on  Tue Nov 09, 2010  at  05:23 AM
David Styles trying to seduce a chic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbHQa6nX62Q
Posted by DingusKak  on  Tue Nov 09, 2010  at  05:44 AM
I'm just going to tip you off, the theories are going past what is reasonable. It's unlikely that all adepts are in on some money making scam with the cryonics institute. Much more likely is that Nemo believes his own BS but sees he can make money from it as well. Most of the others probably are true believers and do it for the same reason any cult members do anything, that is, conformity.

Viewed from afar the ToV looks like a garden variety case of cult behavior, not a pyramid scheme. Unlikely promises, cult of personality, and threats made to those who depart or speak against them. Typical.
Posted by noname  on  Tue Nov 09, 2010  at  10:17 PM
Understand this.
This place is one of hatred towards a new religion. That is the only purpose of this message board.
The Undead Gods have been silent on this issue.
They are silent no more.
This is the moment to step away from the lies and the hate you spew.
Those who hate shall suffer financial loss.
Those who speak against the Temple will feel weak tomorrow and forever more.
Those who have spoken against the Temple, will be haunted by encounters with what they fear the most forever.
This can not be undone.
Such is the price for folly.
Such is the cost of ignorance.
Your failure is now and ultimate.
How can this be so, you may ask yourself.
How can I have now suffered these most undesirable circumstances?
How can this be so?
The answer is simple.
Such is the Power of the Undead Gods.
Posted by Dragon  on  Tue Nov 09, 2010  at  11:24 PM
Ok Nemo (or his copycat). That's nice to hear.

Now go sit in your coking chair while Ruth makes you a lemonade and Michael rubs your feet.
Posted by LuYang  on  Wed Nov 10, 2010  at  12:17 AM
Correction: Rocking chair**
Posted by LuYang  on  Wed Nov 10, 2010  at  12:18 AM
Delightful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBEAd9IT1lQ&feature=related

I had no idea the guy was hated so much...
Posted by Dominique  on  Wed Nov 10, 2010  at  04:57 AM
This is stupid. None of you have any knowledge of the ToV in the first place. Research it. Purchase the Vampire Bible to find out the truth about this lifestyle. If it suits you, become an active member and explore graded membership. Only then, after you have done those things, can you be sure that you know what you are talking about.
The only way to discover the truth about the ToV is through.
This board serves a purposes in removing the wheat from the chaff. The Museum of Hoaxes is an instrument of the Undead Gods, used to to protect the teachings from those not worthy of them.
It serves it's purpose well.
😊
Posted by Simon  on  Wed Nov 10, 2010  at  04:03 PM
This is stupid. None of you have any knowledge of the ToV in the first place. Research it.

I concede to you because you are right and those of us who have criticized the ToV don't know anything about the ToV. 😉 We are just so dumb. :-(
Posted by Private  on  Wed Nov 10, 2010  at  09:39 PM
It just so happens that I did pursue active membership and remained a member for some years. I even made it to "Adept". And that, precisely, is why I left the "Temple". I know all there is to know about Smith's so-called "teachings".

Reminds me of how some people become atheists after reading the Bible.
Posted by LuYang  on  Thu Nov 11, 2010  at  01:46 AM
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