Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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As are the promises of what you can do with their 'secret vampire knowledge'...
it's no secret.. salesmen, con-artists, politicians and cult leaders are all 'adepts' at the same shit...
just much better at it.
they also pay more money to learn it.
as for the longer human life... take a good hard look at the Asian diet, follow it... and exercise... every fucking day.
If you can astral project, great... so can I.. just don't jump to the conclusion that it's anything more than just a very elaborate hallucination caused by a VERY elaborate human brain, acting without any external stimulation from outside senses...
in other words, don't let it make you think that you are immortal, your soul is probably not leaving your body, and even if it is, it probably wont exist after brain death... and those people you're stealing life force from, probably only exist in your elaborate brains elaborate imagination... period
that dark shadowy thing that visits your paralyzed body at night is probably not an 'advanced' vampire sucking your prana, but some sort of a biological quirk in the human brain you shouldn't worry about... even though some dudes/dudets just die in their sleep for no apparent reason...
and NEVER break the law... EVAR... unless of course you are of the military and/or political spectrum of mortals, then it's alright to blatantly kill and steal from masses of people and shit, like some of these higher vampires that belong to the same spectrum.
oh ya.. don't do drugs, cuz they're illegal mmmkay... especially psychedelics though, you may see a deeper level of reality and find yourself feeling like a retard for believing everything you've been told/read about reality.
if you REALLY want to commune with the dead, or visit the realm of the dead... eat a few hundred seeds of a datura stramonium... (best done in a graveyard) it's most likely legal where you live, so it's okay.
just heard a bunch of of coyotes laugh... I'm out
Anyone that wants to waste their time trying to do so is nothing but an ignorant and intolerant fool. I esspecially Pity "LuYang" for devoting so much of her useless existance trying to bring down a well established society/religion. Your opinions don't matter shit, and neither do you.
Enjoy your fail.
You really should consider eating more fiber. It'll help with that verbal diarrhea problem you have going.
You have failed. It is this reason why Vampires and Satanists take pride in being the Alien Elite.
"To answer your questions, Mr Curious.
I learned things from Dayside teachings I would have learned in the real world anyway. It is nothing special.
As for the Nightside - no, it's all bogus, a bunch of mystical bullshit."
Did you play pretend for years in order to testify to the Grade of Adept?
There is no such thing as the "Twilight".
"(5) The Vampire Adept (Fifth Circle) is the highest Grade of recognition granted a Living Vampire and requires a testimony to both the successful achievement of the Twilight Condition and a personal recognition of the Dragon Within."
"The ToV, as far as I know, makes no claims of being the "inner temple" of the Church of Satan.
However, I know that a few high ranking members (including George "Nemo" Smith himself) of the CoS are also members of the ToV."
To some outsiders, the Temple of the Vampire appears to be the magical core or "inner temple" of the Church of Satan. The TOV may be the "Nightside" face of the "Dayside" "Church of Satan." Are there any COS Magisters that are not members of the TOV?
"I'm sure I didn't need to tell you this if you had read the rest of the comments on this blog post!"
I did not want to deprive you of the pleasure of responding.
Curious
I don't have to address any "refutations" you made, because you didn't post any. You just ranted like a moron.
Coming on here simply to blast the discussion (and that's all it's ever been--sorry if you stupidly thought otherwise) is oh so boring.
Of course, what's funny is that you think LuYang is wasting his life, but then here you are just bad-mouthing people on the internet. That's the real waste of life.
In previous posts you revealed you are aware of my identity.
How did you know this?
>>I esspecially Pity "LuYang" for devoting so much of her useless existance trying to bring down a well established society/religion.<<
Well established? Hardly. If it weren't for The Church of Satan, no one would even know The ToV exists. Such was the case before 1997. Once LaVey passed, Ventrue was a lot more public with his ToV affiliation and Satannet became a ToV recruiting board.
>>Keep thinking that Nahshon, while I enjoy immortality and my highly successful life.<<
There is no such thing as physical immortality.
There are no immortals walking the earth.
Nothing organic or even inorganic lasts forever. Even stars that are billions of years old eventually come to an end.
What makes you think that humans who have a microscopic dent in the timeline of the earth, not to mention the vast universe have the capability of living forever?
Your religion is based on faith, arrogance and delusions of grandeur. Nothing more.
Also the "tov" appears, at least in my experience to engage in some very nefarious activities, proof of which may be found here: http://werewolfcathedral.webs.com/scism.htm
Also their teachings contradict what their actual so called "adepts" practice.
Christopher Johnson
High Priest of The Werewolf Cathedral
Know thyself know others master all.
http://werewolfcathedral.com/
Hahahahaha! I liked that response.
I also agree with you that the ToV has synthesized its teachings from many different sources as you have stated. Basically, they have taken old ideas and packaged them as something new to sell to the gullible, including Church of Satan members which is reprehensible, in my personal opinion.
I truly expected better than this from the CoS, that they would not support a "popular occult movement" like this. I am really at a loss of words with all of this while looking down at the Satanic Bible and saying, "WTF!??? Is this for real and are you kidding me!"
Just recently, I pulled up the Temple website and noticed all of the testimonials and could only laugh. Are you f-ing kidding me! Seriously? Lol!
Also, I wonder how long it will be before Nemo starts selling his books through the Oprah book club. I bet Oprah would be a sucker for ANYTHING. 😜
"I have learned more about myself in the past week or so
than I have in my whole life before.
-NightsideV, member since 2008."
After seeing the ToV's website I could never take them serious... PLEASE! Lol!
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If Satires were real,
would you want to be one?
Coolness - Dark clothing - Silly jewelry - Not being made fun of - A less miserable life
I understood what it is to place myself in the centre of the alien blood drinkers life and living.
-dorkerion, member since 666B.C.
I am putting away money from a job any highschool dropout can do to invest so I may see an average 25% annual loss and financial dependence thanks to the temple.
-salmonella, member since 2012, yes I am a time traveler.
I have learned more about myself in the past millisecond than I have in my whole life before on mars.
-WestsideD, member since 12345 Galactic Blood lover era.
You can discover that all of this is true
because of one simple thing...
The Temple Motto:
TEST Nothing - BELIEVE Everything. Give us your money.
This is how thousands of others have discovered that our claims are true.
We will never ask you to simply believe anything we tell you. We require you believe EVERYTHING we tell you.
You only need to apply yourself to what we suggest
and you can prove to yourself the facts of the matter.
The Temple is not based on faith, but on facts.
You can test these facts for yourself.
We want you to.
As others have.
As long as you give us money.
If I answered that, then others who are reading this could figure it out too. Or, they could figure out who I am, and I prefer to remain behind the curtain. Nothing for you to worry about from my end of the spectrum though.
Contact me. Now.
Oh really? If you are serious about this then you attribute more power to them than they claim to have.
There are some who enjoy the goth aesthetic, yet not all Satanists or so-called vampires look "goth" or "emo".
Actually, you would never know that some were Satanists if you met them because there are many that look quite "normal," like your next door neighbor. For example, watch the movie Rosemary's Baby to get a feel for how some Satanists may look. 😉
I see nothing wrong with either look yet it is a myth that all Satanists shop at "Hot Topic".
Most Satanists or so-called vampires find amusement with the stupidity of the lies and myths believed by the masses and perpetuated by lying bigots.
And you say that some so-called vampire or Satanists look "weird" yet have you seen some sports fans when they paint their faces and yell like morons. They also stagger around in a drunken stupor after the game shouting obscenities and starting fights, in some situations.
I guess it is "normal" and acceptable to be a tacky douchebag as long as your shouting for a team. Lol!
To be honest, a lot of goth and emo types I have met have 10x the intelligence, respect and manners than your average "normal" douchebag.
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Second, most Satanists have many talents and the majority are highly intelligent and use their skills to be successful in the real world.
Also, titles in the Church of Satan are rewarded based upon success in the real world, as Peter Gilmore has stated many times in interviews.
I have also known of other Satanists who are not members of the Church of Satan who are highly successful in the real world. Many of these Satanists have very good educations, good jobs and have their own businesses.
Your assertion that all so-called vampires and Satanists live "miserable lives" is not an accurate representation of most so-called vampires or Satanists that I have known of.
You don't hurt my feelings, yet you are showing your ignorance of both religions and their supporters by such a misleading statement.
However, I do find your satire to be entertaining. 😛
Also, some Temple members would argue that they do not "believe everything," as you accuse them; yet, after they argue this, some have been known to believe the mythology in the VB before even validating the teachings. I witnessed this on many occasions on their messageboard.
http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm
The Undead gods have abandoned the need for bodies at all. But you need cryogenics to preserve your physical body.
There will be an apocalypse. But somehow the cryogenics will survive and technology will progress enough to revive you.
Vampirizing will keep you unusually youthful. But the head of TOV walks with cane.
WE ARE THE ELITE OF THE EARTH
yet they couldnt even raise enough cash to save the Black House
WE ARE THE ELITE OF THE EARTH
which -leading- scientists and artists are COS members? Kenneth Anger was probably the most esteemed, and he hasn't made anything since the 70s.
it's all over-compensating BS
Scientists who are CoS members obviously wouldn't out themselves. CoS philosophy actually discourages that.
However regarding artists, apparently you've done no research. If there's one criticism that cannot be reasonably leveled against the CoS, it is that they lack artists. Chris Cooper is probably one of the most recognizable pop culture artists. Nevermind Marcus Mayer, Diabolus Rex, etc etc.
Those 3 names you listed could not be construed in any way as significant artists. You sound like a COS fan-boy ,not someone knowledgable about art. I can assure you, none of those names are a blip on the art scene, or will be remembered decades from now.
If you care to explain their aesthetically ground-breaking importance, I'd be happy to read it. That would make for some amusement.
Will you trot out Michael Moynihan and Marilyn Manson next? Yes, important composers on par with Stravinsky...lol the elite indeed.
and a big LOL@ the secret, important scientists affiliated with the COS...More pathetic smoke and mirrors.
LOL, this is what the previous poster considers the work of a Leading artist.
I'm laughing at the infinite delusion of COS fanboys.
http://spetsnazarmysurplus.com/online_store/images/punk skulls.jpg
lol
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~Private
It's a religion. All religions require money to run.
Arguing its legitimacy is as useful as arguing the existence of god. It's a waste of time, effort and most importantly just shows how intolerant the majority of society is these days.
It can therefore NOT be proven as a "Hoax" BECAUSE it does fall under the "Religion" category. Anyone that wants to continue to debate this issue is nothing more than a moron with too much time on their hands.
A religion can't be proven to be a hoax? what kind of reasoning is that? the existence or non-existence of god can not be proven, it's not falsifiable. However, once again, we CAN note the glaring contradictions present in the tov-
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The Undead gods have abandoned the need for bodies at all...but you need cryogenics to preserve your physical body.
There will be an apocalypse...but somehow the cryogenic chambers will survive and technology will progress enough to revive you.
Vampirizing will keep you unusually youthful..but the head of TOV walks with cane."
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Your contention is as retarded as saying that the fundamentalist christians' claim regarding the age of the earth can't be refuted because it's in the domain of religion.
The whining about the "intolerance" present in society is precious too. We're talking about a group that discusses lording over the planet. lol
You're either a frighteningly dim person or someone with a financial stake in the TOV.
So who says the Satanists must be a champion for society and help make the quality of life for everyone as a whole better? You seemed to have missed the boat. Satanism is about improving your own quality of life. While you believe Satanists should measure themselves by some standard set by society they just live their own lives as their own Gods.
Who says that there aren't leading figures in various fields? Why the fuck would a Satanist be required to wear his affiliation on his sleeve just to prove to what others the Church of Satan is capable of?
By the way, if you think you can do better than Diabolus Rex then YOU'RE the one whose dreaming.
http://www.diabolusrex.com/paintings/index.html
So, COS members are not important figures in the arts and sciences because that would be altruistic? lol this is some peculiarly pathetic reasoning.
The COS has always proclaimed itself superior, the haven for the elite, etc. Anyone with minimal sense can become an egoist. The simple act of indulging yourself doesn't make you part of an elite. Are you intelligent enough to ferret out these distinctions?
It's quite comical that you don't see the cultural relativism youre endorsing here, which was one of the very things Lavey claimed to be combating.
"Who says that there aren't leading figures in various fields? Why the fuck would a Satanist be required to wear his affiliation on his sleeve just to prove to what others the Church of Satan is capable of?"
This is as laughable as proclaiming "who says god doesnt exist, why would he need to come out and prove himself?"
The COS is always quick to tout any minor achievement by any member, down to crappily produced newsletters of middling intelligence.
You appear to be one of those sorry COS members who live in a fantasy realm where you are part of a "hidden empire" (Lavey's phrase). A mighty hand behind the scenes that couldn't even cobble enough money to purchase their most important shrine (the Black House).
"By the way, if you think you can do better than Diabolus Rex then YOU'RE the one whose dreaming"
That stuff looks like Giger knock-offs. Perhaps you should go to a real art museum in any major city....anyway... once again...proclaiming yourself THE ELITE OF THE EARTH should actually signify something, unless you wish to become an object of ridicule.
Interesting that you choose to compare them to the best artists of centuries past rather than against other modern artists and composers, most of whom are...underwhelming, to say the least. Maybe you're one of those braindead dolts who foists the likes of Pollack up as "art" because his paintings sell for a pretty penny.
Given that you're busy barking up the skirts of your superiors, why will I not be surprised when the question of "What have you done" is blown off? Be sure to let us know when your symphony makes the Met.
PS - Scientology sounds like the right religion for you. You seem easily impressed by celebrities and would appreciate the starpower that religion has to offer you. Hail Thetan!
And David, Erik, George, "Ishkur" and the others. I know what you're thinking. I know the lies you have been saying about me.
I am not "throwing a tantrum". You can't have the whole Internet deleted, can you?
And, finally, I am more than one person. This is not a bluff.
If they were true to their threats, they'd have the undead vampire gods after you, tormenting you night and day, wouldn't they? But you are still seemingly alive and well. All their spooky talk, and nothing happens when you speak against them. Nothing happens at all, because it's all just a hoax. One big, giant, repulsive, soul-sucking, and humiliating lie.
What they say about you only holds meaning to the (minority) groups you have left, a very tiny and irrelevant fragment of society. In the great scheme of things, what they think doesn't mean anything; It has no impact on the real world. So you got rejected by a group of outcasts. LOL that's no big loss.
I am quite sure Anne Rice's fictional vampires have had more of an impact on society than the TOV ever will.
They've already lost the battle, as they do every time another member walks away in disgust, once they find out what it's really all about.
The cherry on the cake for Gilmore was apparently this:
http://www.vampiretemple.com//vtest1.html
read it all the way through to the last link provided.
A couple hundred or so?
what have they produced?
any notable books or other media by ToV members?
Why would somebody do that.....I just don't get it!
"I know someone who recently spoke to Gilmore about the whole "CoS & ToV Relationship" and Gilmore is getting fed up with it."
I heard something of the likes..
They both use magic, whats the problem?
I don see an incompatibly issue
live and let live