Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the
Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But
Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.
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I am simply amazed of these site..I live less than one kilometer from the Jim Morrison grave and Pere Lachaise in Paris France...I sought this internet website cos of interest of jim morrison..I have his fanous picture in my bedroom..also cos I'm not a fag I also have poster of Brittney and so on.
My Grandmother lays in Pere Lachaise and I am very happy for it..also Edith Piaf and many other artistes...when I go there to clean my grandmothers grave site we always try to avoid the Morrison grave...why? cos real people are there...not just a joke for people to argue about..and these people who never even been to Paris and will never come here.
I am 14 year old boy and I see how nasty theses comments sometimes on this website are..I hope you all come to Paris one day..its the best City in the whole Universe...BTW that Cowboy who says he's Jim Morison looks like a freaky guy..it is not him and I dont even wear the glasses hehe!
I logged Youtube yesterday. What!! Jim was only 13 or so years older than me when he died?,,weird
Bye guys..
"...I'm not a fag"
"hehe!"
I believe the first statement is the hoax.
Both of these women are journalists who were priviledged to speak to several people at the Rock n Roll Circus, where it is alleged Jim OD'd. You all like to talk about Jim...so go join the discussion...its up for grabs.
"How many thousands of times do you have to be told that Salli and I were both told he'd ODed and where? and that we were told this at widely varying times and by two entirely different people,* both of whom were at the R'n'R Circus that night (or early morning)?
These constant attempts of yours--and others--to make him out to be some kind of sickly weakling are disgusting, and your amateur diagnoses pathetic. "Steroidal medicine" indeed.
I have yet to see anyone provide any source for the claim he had rheumatic fever, BTW, and find it highly unlikely in light of his later athleticism.
*and long before she and I got to know each other, for that matter. I was told sometime in the mid-eighties; IIRC Salli heard it in the 70s. She and I did not get to know each other until 1996, although I certainly knew who she was, having read her Circus interview and seen her byline in the L.A. Times."
I quote Salli:
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"You can get bloated from just the over use of alcohol. A cousin of mine was never on steroids but he did drink a lot of booze, he was an alcoholic. He died of it.
One of the two people who told me that Jim died of a heroin overdose was Danny. As Scarlett said, let's stop the arm chair doctoring. It's pointless and ridiculous. The man is dead."
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Here is another quote by Salli Stevenson (journalist who knew Jim Morrison personally) and The Doors. Here is what she said as posted on The Doors website a few days ago.
Danny --she is referring to Danny Sugarman.
Salli Stevenson:
"I had two sources, Danny and one other person. Danny knew my other source. Danny mentioned Jim's death from heroin in his book, Wonderland.
Pam told Danny that Jim died at home. Danny used that version in his book. What Danny found out though was that Pamela wasn't at home when Jim was brought back either dead or dying from the RRC. Danny's and my other source was at the RRC and was one of the people who brought Jim back to the apartment. So the stories in fact do not contradict each other."
You didn't bother answering the only question this site has and that is WHO IS BILL LOYER. You can watch Danny Sugarman's reputation go down the toilet as he talks about he and his wives escapades with heavy narcotics. I don't see how anyone in their right mind would use Sugarman or Manzarek (recently sued for 5 million dollars by John Densmore for stealing rights to Jim Morrison and the DOORS)as credible witnesses. Nor anyone from France as visitation of Jim Morrison fake gravesite is the major source of their tourist revenue.
JLizard, you also haven't been answering some questions... Why are you so certain that Cowboy Jim is the real thing? Please elaborate.
I wont say that He is alive but im open to the beleif this is a quote from manzeqik or robby that if there was a person who could fake his death and pull of an eleborate scheme it was jim and manzerik said himself that the grave was 2 short
MANZAREK was the one who said if anyone could pull it off it would be Jim. It was Densmore who said the grave was too short.
I'm sorry I dont think I deserve Louis cypher nasty comment of me! I suspect he his maybe a typical american asshole who the whole world hates!
I always be polite to tourists in my country,a and help and so on..even americans which most of my friends are angry about.
Louis Cyphre I think you are a fag whore..I'm not, but I have many gay friends who I love very much and you must search your own self before you comment on other,
Stephan
(Louis Cyphre? that shit movie from the 80's?...LoL..pathetic person you! hehe!)
And those are my words.
Louis Cyphre if those are really what you mean then I will stand back and admirre your your words from many thousands of the miles. i agree you should stan by your decision,,,More important,,what is your view?..Is Jim dead or is he alive and so on.
If he's death I will always clear his space in Pere Lashaise (my Grannys spelling)..My famiy clear grave..sepulchre is annonymos)
I have nothing to offer anyone apart from my tellimg Louis Cuphre to go and screw himselr,
Night guys one and everyone,,be nice to me annd I'll ne nice whenever!!
I wish that the represssed Paedo types like Louis Cyphre types remain silented..silence!I have a tracker device on my computer and if I wish, I will send a registered letter to whom I want to. Do you guys know about ISP'S? I rsearch alot into those.
Sweet dreams...dream that I know about you all...very closely
Stephan
Well please continue to chat..I'm a teen for the gods sake!...I dont spy at all..I was being a devil to you guys!..I still clean Jims grave..and I think Louis Cyphre is a total Homo!
Stephan
Now we have B/S like the Killers etc...no real stars
Srephan
Stephan
Who will be digging up Morrison's grave in June--the Morrison family?
You actually think that ugly Bill Loyer could be Jim Morrison? He's too young and looks nothing like Morrison. Please--Jim died a slow and painful death in Paris in l971. And he has moved on.
Sadly, this has gone all over the world on the internet and is believed as truth by many simply because it is out there. Most people just take for granted anything they read and consider it fact, the worse news it is about someone else the better.
The fact that Cliff's last name is Morrison is simply an acknowledgement of his parentage, not some sort of attempt to promote himself. If you look back at the past of Cliff's career he has NEVER capitalized on his heritage, he is out for people to like him and his music at face value, not because of his father.
Secondly, he has been out there in the industry making music as Cliff Morrison and the Lizard Sun Band for YEARS. It's no secret; he hasn't hidden anything. And also, he has not been sued for it. Put that in your pipe and smoke it before you start squawking about DNA.
Anyways the current stupidity being perpetuated was due to Floyd's anger over losing his potential cash cow...
Some circumstances took place that alerted Cliff and his mother of Floyd's lack of integrity and action was taken to sever the ties. A million dollar book and reality show deal was offered to them just before this happened, but because Cliff and Lennie have NEVER been about making money at the expense of their own integrity, they TURNED DOWN THE DEAL so Floyd wouldn't profit from it.
Then the attacks began. Not only have Floyd and a couple of his flunkies smeared and slandered both Cliff and his mother Lennie mercilessly all over the internet, but he broke into their home multiple times.
He attempted to cause problems on many levels for both of them as well as friends and family.
A two-part video is viewable online of a seriously childish and embarrassing 'protest' staged by Bocox on the night that Cliff performed (to a standing ovation, not to mention winning two awards) at the 2008 Los Angeles Music Awards.
What's hilarious (despite the maliciousness of the attacks - which are soon to be removed from everywhere they appear) is how the former promotional aspect of Floyd's is still appearing side by side with the slander...he's not too sharp, apparently.
The man claims to be the most respected man in Hollywood - an industry mogul with 15 years of experience - but the truth is he has only repped a few artists here and there, none of which have had much success.
Currently Floyd is attempting to pass himself off as a "Crip Loco" and promoting rapper Jayo Felony. Needless to say, it would be a lot more professional if he just conducted his promotional business without trying to add himself into the equation as some sort of co-hort.
Visit the band myspace page at http://www.myspace.com/cmlsbofficial - there are photos, music and video to be enjoyed as well as the opportunity to send a message to Cliff.
He does get on there and read (sometimes even responding to) his messages, once in awhile!
It is a rumour that Jims grave will be lifted sometime this year, I dont know for sure...but rumour within the Pere Lachaise is quite often fact because of the local council. It cleans and repairs the graves here until the family endowmend expires.
I believe that Belleville Council now own the sector where Jim grave is at and I also heard that Paris has taken the care of the grave in person..I mean nothing to do with the Morrison famile who never paid nothing..nor the doors (Only what I understand)
If so, Paris exhume casquets every ten year or so on to clean up...I understood this will happen very soon with Jim Morrison grave..mabe in May 2009..so perhaps a chance for everyone to find the truth?..perhaps make a request from the Mayor in Paris?..I can find the email addy if you like?
Regards
Stephan
Thank you for offering to send me the mayor's e-mail address, but I have no need for it. I believe JM is not alive. Whether he's buried in Pere Lachaise is another thing.
Sincerely,
Adele
I agree..its the best to allow them( him) to rest;
Its a horrible sight to see the corpses lifted in any case...not so much the sight as the horrible smell...anyone who has been to Pere lachaise will confirm. Rest in Peace Jim
Stephan
Is your name Lisa?
I heard from my Grandma today that the quadrant that Jim Morrison is believe to be buried will be cleaned up for sure in June 2009.
By laws here any sepulcre can be opened at such a time to give a family some chance to re-locate remains etc..(Pere Lachaise is expensive)
I know other sites like Oscr Wilde has been taken by Paris for care and so on...I dont think the same has happened for Jims grave.
I will post more if I learn more
Stephan
i like a guy who knows alot about his stuff..its hot!! im a DOORS fan and espeacially a Jim Morrison one<3 so please, i wld so love to hear the latest info on wats to happen of jims remains..get bak at me!
I hear some people from Pere Lachaise (public sector) have survey Jim and surrounding grave sites using some kind of XRay machine and supposed there is a skeleton/body exactly wher assumed..They do this so not to disturb other graves. I dont know about that, but I know that the hotels are getting booked up around Belleville and Pere lachaise like never before by Germans and Dutch...I heared it will be around June 23..I dont know for sure I'll say more later
Stephan
You are wrong. If Jim is buried where supposed he will be among a tangle of bones..his grave is apon or nearby about 20 others from the last century alone (20C). His grave is in a poor sector of the cemetary..near the wall where many of Hauseman disintered were placed. The soil is wet so I dont think even a coffin survive.
As for your slight against French..we dont need to "sucker" noone! If you check true statistic evidence; France and Paris has more tourists every year than any country in the World...I saw your previous mail and I believed you to be mature man...Maybe you ar 12 or something?
By the way Last summer I was walking near the Geoges Cinq when I saw a car accident..I ran there and an American lady was hit by a car. I sat with her and calles a SAMU (ambulance). I sat and held her while many Americans walked past doing nothing!
I am a jim fan of music..not a hoax cretin such as you. I know the Americans dont like French people; I dont know why Im not politician.
Bill Loyer?..What the fuck is he LOL!!
Eat less!
Stephan
Please don't judge all Americans by the stupidity of a few. I think you are the most mature of all the writers on this site. Please keep us posted.
I promise you I dont judge the Americans in this way...there are many in my neighbour who are studying here in Paris..either at college or working or so on. there was five Americains here for the Sunday lunch today... my mama cooked and I had an amazing time.
I hated saying what I wrote (btw there were two Americans in my room when I wrote that!...and they did agree with what I wrote). In my experiance American are awesome..have lots of fun so I say a HUGE sorry for my ..hmm generalisation.
I never said anything about Jim..apart from the grave cleaning which is a fact and that I love the music he sang. How could I know if he was alive? or dead?...Just cos there are bones in the crowded space he lays doesn't prove they are his bones..how would I know?
Bye Adele..my American friend just here says Hi from Petie from E22st across from Flat Iron (whatever that means)
Bye (bye Adele and thanx)
Stephan
(Ps I'm a teen!...I'm not an old Zombie like Lizzard!)
...."Hi Adele thank Christ for your comment on this site! The problem is that these French guys take this stuff really seriously and dont take kindly to some hick calling them a liar. Stephans Granny lives opposite Pere Lachaise and being the nosey woman she is I know that she knows what is happening in that Cemetary" Back to Stephan..(who looks like a very young Jim Morrison by the way!
Oh Goodnight Adele...I've beaten that American and my friends sit on him now so he cant move and I can send this mail,,,,VIVRE LA FRANCE!!!!!!
Stephan!!
My dream has always been to visit Paris. I don't know if I'll ever make it, but you never know! Thank you for the kind words. You are a wise person. I've been listening to the Doors since I was 14 (that was in l970!) Tell your friends about the book, "A Tale of Two Brothers" by Jacqueline Murray. And, of course, you should read it, too.
It's been fun "talking" to you!
Adele