Is Jim Morrison Alive?

image Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.

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Posted on Mon Jan 03, 2005



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Jliz,

I know what your commitment to Jim Morrison and his legacy is..we can all see it and applaud you for it. When I said that he wasn't a Saint I meant it!..he was totally human, with the weaknesses that many of us have...drink too much..nose candy etc etc.

I know better than to preach to the convinced, but I fail to see how a singer who died (or not as the case may be) can be regarded as a "Saint" because of a few charismatic songs. I'm sorry, but I cant see it. The definition of a Saint implies a peerless life doing good for others..or sitting in a cave or on top of a pillar or something.

I'm not trying to make light of this, as I now see that there is indeed some kind of quasi messianic thing going on here..which I never guessed before; so I'll have to tread carefully.

Cheers guys and girls; I dont know how I can contribute to this debate further, but I'll look in from time to time to see if someone as awesome as Shadowboxer has posted...bye the way, what in the bloody hell is a "hole in the desert?"..I'm bemused!

Cheers
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Wed Jul 22, 2009  at  04:18 PM
Hey Andrew,
I don't want to go off into my religious beliefs and cloud this issue any more than it already is. I have had some wonderful synchronicity occur throughout my working on this project. Perhaps it all started when as a kid I heard on the radio that some rock star was believed dead and may have been hiding... I think that I used to pray that he would one day come out. Then I've heard from some poets and they just venerate the man. For whatever reason, I believe that some "portals" were opened up in Jim's mind and that he is an "enlightened" being. Reading through the lines of what Gerald Pitts told me, he is incredibly witty. I need to reread Kierkegaard's Difference Between a Genius and a Saint because as of now I believe that Jim Morrison is both. And when he seems less it is only because he is acting.
Posted by JLizard  on  Thu Jul 23, 2009  at  09:07 PM
A hole in the desert is where the mob would throw the bodies of people they killed in Las Vegas. So shadowboxer just threatened to kill me. What the hell?? Threatening to kill someone (or even kick in their teeth) because they don't want off-topic discussion on an internet forum?? Dude, what's the matter with you??? Seriously, I can't even begin to express how incredibly disturbing that is. Jim Morrison was all about killing people for no good reason, right? I don't think so. So are you honoring and respecting his legacy by threatening to kill me?? Think about it...

Look, if Jim had a son and Cliff is Jim's son, then that's terrific. I'm happy for him to carry on his father's legacy in music and life. What I should have said (and what I meant) is that I don't care about the Cliff question at all **as part of this discussion, unless it directly relates to this discussion**. I kept reading through that extensive story about Cliff and saw nothing that connects him to the question about whether Jim is still alive, though I may have missed it if there was. If there is any real evidence about that or any real connection between Cliff and determining if Jim is still alive, then that is what should be discussed here. Whether Cliff is Jim's son or not, and what he's all about, can be discussed on many other Doors sites. Once again, the subject here is: "Is Jim Morrison Alive?"
Posted by Dennis Crane  on  Fri Jul 24, 2009  at  11:06 AM
Dennis,
Please take off the horse blinders. Have you done any research whatsoever and do you know how much some of us have sacrificed? Cliff played in a band with Robby Krieger's son. Do you know who that is? Cliff was raised by the Jim Morrison's family- Jim's sister is his aunt and he plays with his nephews and neices. Cliff is a celebrity and has watched this very video we are discussing. Cliff, like Alan Graham, has been in contact with Bill Loyer. If Cliff Morrison can become more stable in his career he may very likely give a public statement on who Bill Loyer is. And a lot of people may hear it. And it may open a lot more doors to everyone finding out the truth then you're absurb attempts to snuff him out of the picture.
Posted by JLizard  on  Fri Jul 24, 2009  at  05:45 PM
Absurd attempts to snuff him out of the picture?? What are you talking about?? If Cliff is really relevant to whether Jim Morrison is still alive, then that's what I want to hear about on this thread... but not the whatever it was about him that filled up page 52. You're right, though, that I was wrong to say that anything about him is off-topic for this thread... that certainly may not be the case, and I'm definitely open to hearing more about him here in that context.

But for crying out loud, why would anybody threaten to kill someone else (or even kick in their teeth) over something like I posted, insensitive though it may have been? I'm disappointed that there is not more outrage about that in response.
Posted by Dennis Crane  on  Sat Jul 25, 2009  at  02:10 PM
Hi,
I'm back..and way before I thought that I would be. I'm back because I can see some nasty character assassination going on and I find it distasteful that someone with a point of view could be so badly mauled with potential criminal overtones. Shadowboxer, do you understand that you have commited a Criminal Offence by threatening a person online?

I suppose that it it'd be quite easy for the FBI to hone in on a complaint from someone who complained of a grevious bodily assault and threats of death. I have no problem reporting this. I am a European and dont care if the FBI are involved or not..I suspect "Shadowboxer" is however.

Dennis, dont worry about this moron..he cant get to you...there is no way on Gods Earth that he can! Just ignore him for the prick that he is....

JLiz a comment for another day OK?..bed time for me

Cheers

Andrew
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Sat Jul 25, 2009  at  04:08 PM
Dennis,
It sounds like you're finally starting to see the light about how Cliff Morrison might play an important part in breaking out this story. Maybe he's too caught up in personal affairs so he won't but maybe he will. About 3 years ago after I heard that RIDERS ON THE STORM scheduled but later renegged on a concert an hour away from where Bill was living in the rural rural mountains of Oregon, I posted a message on the DOORS website asking who is BILL LOYER and why were R/S planning on playing way up in the middle of nowhere.
It was on a Sunday afternoon. I was rather surprised when 15 mins later someone posted that I had posted something to this effect on Alan Graham's website, fans from there would not take too kindly to me. I checked again 15 mins later, then 1/2 hour later, then hour later then 2 hours later, then 4 hours later- and you know what. THE ENTIRE WEBSITE WAS SHUT DOWN (being updated).
I had a feeling that the "corrupt" DOORS did not want people to see my post. I wondered if I had gone too far, and yes, if someone was going to be sent to kill me.
A lot of money is at stake here. If the millions of dollars have been swindled out of fans hands over the course of the last 30 years then there are going to be some real hard feelings. I don't think white collar prison sentences are going to make up for the bullshit that has been propagated.
Posted by JLizard  on  Sun Jul 26, 2009  at  10:40 AM
This Cliff Morrison matter is immaterial to the question of whether or not Jim Morrison is a still alive or not. It has been widely rumored that Jim may have had a son around 1969, but that is pure conjecture. And, of course, it is another of the fascinating enigmas surrounding Morrison; I bet that the man is having a good laugh at our expenses wherever he is. As to RIDERS ON THE STORM performing, while I do admire Ray Manazarek and Robby Krieger for perservering on through very trying circumstances, I think it is sacrilege for them to do so without Jim. They will never satisfactorily replace him, as I recall them trying with Iggy Pop and Kevin Coyne. And remember "Other Voices" and "Full Circle"? Jim was such an overpowering presence and therefore impossible to replace, but, as I stated in an earlier post, the Lizard King is dead; long live the king. Perhaps the monk has eaten lunch and the trip has begun, but, as a crucial caveat, when the music's over, turn out the lights.

I've always loved those Nietzsche references.
Posted by Will Trame in Lawrenceburg IN  on  Mon Jul 27, 2009  at  12:11 PM
Mr. Gary James is one of the most celebrated interviewers of the last quarter century. Over 1300 interviews since 1978. Donny Osmond to Ozzy Osbourne, from Henry Mancini to Kiss.
He has also interviewed actors, authors, dancers, politicians and entrepreneurs. A couple of days ago I received an email from him and he asked that it be posted on all sites pertaining to this Gerald Pitts story. The site you have to see is classicbands.com and if you scroll towards the bottom of the page you will find a BELIEVE IT OR NOT section. It contains Gary James' ever so recent interview with Gerald Pitts.
Posted by JLizard  on  Wed Jul 29, 2009  at  07:18 PM
Here's the direct link to the Gary James interview with Gerald Pitts: http://www.classicbands.com/GeraldPittsInterview.html
Posted by Dennis Crane  on  Wed Jul 29, 2009  at  10:53 PM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
WAS JIM MORRISON A SECRET AGENT?

Zack Kopp, a very well known investigative writer and book reviewer from Denver, CO, took the time to review the books Journalist/Author Adriana Rubio wrote on Jim Morrison.

PART 1 FOR THE EXAMINER

Posted by ARTS Publications  on  Fri Jul 31, 2009  at  05:29 PM
Thanks for the link Dennis. I don't think we should write Adriana Rubio as a pussy because she got into a cat fight with Gerald Pitts and ran up the tree of oblivian. Adriana was doing this story when everyone else was afraid to "go there". She has a right to do it her way, just like Alan Graham, Gerald Pitts, Gary James (bites the heal of his palm because Gary james is a stud) or JLizard.
As for this ARTS thing, you'd think they would like to have solid footing to walk on before elaborating on half concocted fantasy. But I guess that is why it's called ARTS instead of Ssssciiiieeeennnncccceeee or Tttrrrruuuutttthhhh. Here's where that fella who interviewed Cliff could help- not to stir up the dust again, but Cliff has a remarkably hypnotic voice or way about him or something. Jim Morrison is an artist and he is Catholic.
Posted by JLizard  on  Fri Jul 31, 2009  at  09:13 PM
Well, the idea of Jim faking his death by taking a coma drug and ending up in Oregon is one thing... I can see some possible plausibility in that, and the pictures and voice recording are very compelling, so I am stretching my mind to allow for that possibility. But I really start to tune out with the whole "Jim was a secret agent" stuff... Sorry, but all credibility behind breaking the "Jim Morrison is still alive" story, if that much is even true at all, will be lost if people try to promote ideas like that.

However, I'm guessing that post by ARTS means the "Manual Case" book might finally be coming out soon. I am very eager to learn more about what Adriana experienced and what her conclusion is about who the Bill Loyer guy she was in contact with really is.
Posted by Dennis Crane  on  Sat Aug 01, 2009  at  12:15 AM
This is utter nonsense yet again!

This thing is going around in circles all of the time..There is no proof that Jim Morrison is alive; and until I see proof that he is alive, then I'll assume that he's dead.

Personally I Believe Andre story rather than Gerald Pitts..at least it sounds vaguely cridible as opposed to all the other stuff we hear time after time.

Cheers

Andrew
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Sat Aug 01, 2009  at  05:54 PM
A secret agent? That's intriguing but definitely way off the boil, IMHO. I remember back around 1974 (or 1975) Jim was reported to be living his life as a mild-mannered Louisiana banker. Again, rumor, although the applicable book was a bit hilarious to say the least. It is hard picturing Jim as a cowboy or a spy (in the house of love, perhaps?); I still believe that the man is dead. On a rather bizarre note, I have read that Jim's ghost haunts Pere La Chaise. Ah, the sweet mysteries of life.
Posted by Will Trame in Lawrenceburg IN  on  Sun Aug 02, 2009  at  11:23 AM
I am David Logan. I have lived with Jim 3 years out of 10. Gerald Pitts is acurate and so is Jlizard. We have looked at this for a long time. Jim's word is enough. He wants to help the little children. No trickery here. Photo's are untouched. Teeth match as well as the eyes, the build, the spiral break in the leg from earlier years. I have played music with him and have talked indepth. He overdosed and woke up in the morgue. He asks "Who would want to be Jim Morrison?" "Prove that I am not"
Posted by Highmountainrogue  on  Wed Aug 05, 2009  at  02:12 PM
Dear David Logan,

I dont think that there is any way that you would convince anyone on the strength of your attestation. The onus of proof is always on the idividual trying to prove something and cant simply say "if I'm not him..then prove me wrong"

I might as well say I'm Bart Simpson (I am actually)...I know that he's a yellow cartoon boy but if you set out to prove legally that I wasn't him and I contested your assertion..you'd be in a whole lot of expensive lawyer muck that could go on for years while I just sat back and laughed at you at no cost to me.

I've said it before and I'll say it again..if cowboy Jim is in fact Jim Morison I'll open a bottle and celebrate, I would be delighted to be proven wrong in this case....But there's the rub!...I need proof...total, undeniable proof and then I'll believe you. Until then; all this is just conjecture and rumour, and I'm still Bart Simpson!!

Come on!..you have to do better than your last effort to convince (I suspect) 99.9 percent of the folk on this site!

Cheers

Andrew
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Wed Aug 05, 2009  at  05:31 PM
Hi David, thanks for posting. And I believe that this really is David Logan per our conversations on the phone and David's willingness to break out this story for the sake of getting out the truth.
For you who don't know this, David Logan was Jim's best friend in the mountains of OR. David helped fall a timber in front of Jim's house that most lumberjacks wouldn't undertake due to the risk involved. David has always been a DOORS fan so he was able to bridge a gap which Gerald Pitts couldn't even begin to understand. Logan was Jim's drinking buddy- like cases of beer I suppose. Like any cool person would probably just go crazy if they could have one beer with the lizard king. David's father was best friends with American icon Paul Harvy. This site is very fortunate to have DL here. For now we will truly know... the rest of the story.
Posted by JLizard  on  Wed Aug 05, 2009  at  10:42 PM
Hey thanks guys Andrew and all. Jlizard has met Jim. Jim is one the nicest persons you will ever want to meet. A total gentleman and honest. When you sit across the TABLE FROM THIS MAN,you will know. Hazel eyes, strong features. We are not trying to fool anybody. The beginning of the story is quite phenomenal. As it should be normally. Led to disclose his identity for the ones he loves. Pam was trying to protect him and keep him alive July of 71. He was in a deep coma. Police arrive and find a man who had been in ice water. Blue, cold. A death certificate was written upon finding no pulse. I am certian the attempt was short lived. He told me he woke up in the morgue.
Posted by Highmoountainrogue  on  Thu Aug 06, 2009  at  01:04 AM
These are pictures of Jim Morrison. Highmountainrogue.com and the cowboy RodeosWest site. There is only one person trying to make a buck so far and maybe rightly so, gerald.
Some of the facts are not straight... but mostly are. The real story of who discovered him. What really happened after Jim revealed himself. Why this won't take fully. What's in store.
Posted by Highmountainrogue  on  Thu Aug 06, 2009  at  03:42 AM
i must say i agree with Bart Simpson lol (Andrew)
Posted by 4ever young  on  Thu Aug 06, 2009  at  11:46 AM
AND just in case he is alive, i just wanted him to know that i thank God for him to be alive,sadly i live in Honduras and i dont have enough money to go to OR but lets hope we get to meet "Someday Soon"
Posted by 4ever young  on  Thu Aug 06, 2009  at  11:48 AM
In the period between 1971 and 74 Pamela Courson stated in the news at least 3 different times that Jim was alive. Why would she do that? The media and the masses tried to claim she was on drugs and delerious. The man that Jlizard and I talk about is real. And an impressive fellow at that. Clear and big as life. I can't say enough about him.
Posted by Highmountainrogue  on  Thu Aug 06, 2009  at  02:35 PM
I am thoroughly convinced that Jim is alive. So much so that I will call him tomorrow and see if he will talk.
Posted by Jagged  on  Thu Aug 06, 2009  at  09:42 PM
Hi David!
Would you mind if I gave you a call tomorrow as well?? I am a writer, but I guarantee that everything will remain confidential if you so desire.
Posted by Jagged  on  Thu Aug 06, 2009  at  09:48 PM
It seems as though things continually hit dead ends for everyone involved in seeking and revealing the truth. I will do the best I can to reveal the truth for everyone. Following my proposed conversations with Jim and David, I will strictly comply with their requests for any matters that they wish to remain confidential. I think a middle ground can be met without the invasion of Jims current life and I would like to help make that happen. Everyone including Jim deserves it.
Posted by Jagged  on  Thu Aug 06, 2009  at  10:04 PM
David, I've been to your site and though I've been skeptically optimistic about this for a while now and remain so, I'll take your word and JLizard's and Gerald's at face value for now...

My question is, what is the next step? Because as Andrew states, talking about evidence doesn't mean a thing. The pictures are quite compelling to me, especially some of the ones at your site. But we're still a long way from knowing with a surety, and in some ways it still seems like a screwy story with some contradictions (intentional coma drug for six weeks as Gerald just said, or overdose waking up in the morgue as you say now??).

I'd be happy to help generate more interest in the story (I posted one of the overlay videos on YouTube a while back showing the striking nose comparisons and could certainly do more of that kind of thing), but I'd need to be convinced more about this supposed evidence that is mentioned on your site before I'd be willing to put much more effort into it. "A fingerprint match has happened through F.B.I agent D.W.Jones. Laser point measure between pupils says yes. Voice comparison is an affirmative. Photograph comparisons match. Congratulations everybody Jim Morrison is back." That all sounds good but means nothing until the public can see any of it. Can we really expect any more movement on this beyond a couple of people asserting it to be true? How long can we drag this out? I understand if it ever was confirmed and broke out as a major story, that could change things again for Jim in a way that he may not want anymore, in terms of the attention. But then again, why did he allow himself to be pictured and hook up with you and Gerald if he wasn't willing to deal with that? If true, there are really so many questions...
Posted by Dennis Crane  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  12:29 AM
David, can you please provide a higher resolution picture of the Cowboy Jim depicted in this image:

When zooming in on that picture, it appears there may have been some Photoshopping or something done in the part where the nose curves off and elsewhere on the face (a line seems to run across the nose and down the right side of his cheek). However, it's possible that is a naturally occuring photo anomaly... a similar kind of thing happened on a picture of me last fall, where it looked sort of like I had a big bulging blood vessel across the side of my face... so I don't want to call foul play or anything until I can get a better look. But as it is, it does look very suspicious, so a higher resolution picture would be much better to work with to be more sure about whether it has been touched up or not.
Posted by Dennis Crane  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  01:01 AM
Gentlemen,
I have been encouraged to join this site by Jlizard man. I have scanned the middle and read the front and the back a ways. I really appreciate your encouragement. Some of scans on my site are the poorer of the matierial at hand. For reasons. One guy who had all the answers and handprints sent to his expert, and is now avoiding me. A producer in Dallas. Too trusting. Many of my pictures are in the hands of one of the nation's leading forensic experts. Jim went cooperatively, took x-rays of his mouth and said "Good luck Doctor" on a voice comparison tape of about 4.
My site was thrown together.
Notice the coffee spill on the right hand corner Dennis? I keep telling myself to get with it and build a good site. I can give you a better scan. And will.
Just for the sake of realism Jagged, put your # up here and I will give you a call. Be glad to.
The new site will have some new video strictly of Jim. I will pull some comparisons together and you people do what you want with them. Hopefully this keeps moving forward and we can produce something. I would consider it a joy to talk to some of you. Dennis?
Posted by Highmountainrogue  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  05:11 AM
>>The new site will have some new video strictly of Jim. I will pull some comparisons together and you people do what you want with them. Hopefully this keeps moving forward and we can produce something. I would consider it a joy to talk to some of you. Dennis?

That would be terrific, as well as a new scan of that picture if you have one available (or any other pictures). My e-mail address is dennycrane1414 (at) yahoo (dot) com Please understand that I'm not saying that picture is a fake, only that there is something unusual about it that will prevent it from being taken seriously if touch-up cannot be ruled out. You can't go into battle with broken swords, if you know what I mean...

I actually pass through that area of Oregon now and then and was hoping to meet up with you or Gerald at some point to look at whatever evidence you have on hand and discuss what I might do to help. Of course, I'd love to meet Cowboy Jim, too, but I understand if that's not possible.

Anyway, it's great to have you hear. More input from those who have had direct contact with Cowboy Jim (whether he's the real thing or not) can only be a good thing for this discussion!
Posted by Dennis Crane  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  08:56 AM
Hi David!

That sounds great. I will send my number to your email .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Posted by Jagged  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  09:10 AM
Hi all,

Interesting posts during the last few days..I'm quite excited. If this new thread is true then it would be a mind blowing event of awesome proportions. Considering what has been said; I imagine that the Worlds media are vying to have the first "scoop"..the first photos and the first story of Jims "resurrection".

If all that has been posted is indeed true,I don't believe my cynical expressions would be taken amiss. This is because I remain a cynic..but one who is gasping to be convinced. I want Jim Morrison to be alive, I really do, but I genuinely believe that he died all those years ago. I'm sorry JLiz..sorry Dennis..sorry Highmountainrougue..I've spent over half of my life worshiping him dead..how much more I would love it if he was still alive!

I know that I'm flippant (Bart Simpson etc) But I was right and Dennis confirmed ...thanks mate!..the onus of proof is on you guys..so please prove it!..we're all waiting!

I looked at highmountainrouges site...I'm sorry man, they dont look like Jim to me..firstly he looks too young..and secondly its the eyes...Oh shut up Andrew!!..convince me guys! and I'll believe you forever!

Goodnight all

Andrew
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  03:47 PM
Just looked at Highmountainrogues site again and it seems a bit strange that Jims photo has a much higher hairline than the guy purporting to be him nearly forty years later.

Most tricologists would recognise "male pattern baldness" as was obviously a feature of Jims "last days"..In the same way ones eyebrows don't suddenly become arched to the point of "surprise" without extensive surgury. Jims eyes and especially the brows were low down on his face. Look at the "SoundStage" songs on YouTube if you're in doubt,

Guys I'm not trying to prove you wrong...I'm hoping that you will prove ME wrong! and this isn't just another hoax along side of Andre's..It certianly seems like it right now!

Andrew
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  04:15 PM
I havent heard from David yet. I'll keep you all posted.
Posted by Jagged  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  09:40 PM
i have been lurking on this topic for a few weeks. read almost front to back this thread, don't have much to contribute, i apologize. the eyebrows look too arched to me, though i see a lot of similarities too. but... he messes up his own lyrics is this youtube.com video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f21KBaPKVpU
not saying that isn't possible as he is only human. but his story about how he wrote the song sounds so...i dunno...scripted? that's just my imput. voice is kinda similar?
peace
dgoods
Posted by the goods  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  10:02 AM
i really mean it just sound's like cheesy dialogue. the supposed jim is like "so many songs...i did elekt...elektra records right." like he's reading it off a piece of paper. then he continues..."oh this is moonlight drive, this is what i uh, i um...wrote on the beach one time, this is what uh i, told ray manzarek i wanted to start a band...it's the first song i came out with." it just sounds scripted or something to me man. but i would like to believe it as well, so let's keep this research coming.
peace again,
dgoods
Posted by the goods  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  10:08 AM
O.k. fellas' hold on. Jagged send to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address). Geralds interview was done on a crappy little tape recorder and Jimbo had had a few buds. I had asked him not to use it. He has done some things we have asked him not to do and that is why he is on his own. He has what he has and that is all. An auctioneer cowboy who was a partner and developed Rodeo's West.
I am no techie. Watch for my site to improve. We are all busy and I know this is important. Gerald has rambled on and filled in the blanks. He was driven off the ranch for not listening.
Posted by Highmountainrogue  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  11:22 AM
in no way was i going by pitts video, i am just speculating, my friend. i am intrigued by your site and the updates you say are coming soon. though, the first picture :

http://www.highmountainrogue.com/background.html

to me in no way resembles jim morrison at all even if aged 40-45 years. the second yes i can see a resemblence. anyway, we'll see in time if you can change my mind. one question...why did bill loyer aka "jim morrison" seem to vanish after the pitts thing? are you still in touch jlizard or highmountain rouge?
Posted by the goods  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  11:33 AM
Dennis we are not in the area anymore. Know this, I spent one year in isolation talking everyday with big Jim. Not one to be fooled. In 5 years he had been to town 6 or 8 times. So you can imagine the line....G Pitts crossed it..within 2 years his possibilities of expanding with us stopped. No body hates him, he just put the blinders on and was stubborn to do everything his way. He was not the discoverer. Jim stepped forward. Gerald would be the agent of what he has if we were to work with him...which is not likely in the near future. Owner, agent, discoverer, producer. To bad he has no real friends who can trust him. I have known him since teen years. Still a friend. We didn't have 2 dimes to rub together when I took him up to Jim's. Phenomenal story and one of the key player's has never been mentioned. So bear with me and I will try and take care of this thread. Thank you.
Posted by Highmountainrogue  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  12:04 PM
not sure if you were referring to me but i am not dennis. so you are no longer in contact with jim? or just gerald is no longer in contact?
Posted by the goods  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  12:17 PM
Yo dude I don't want to start a series of questions and answers as responses would be nice in real time. The background photo is a washed out scan of a scan. None of these photos' are point to point. Dennis I see the scratch and if not mistaken that was caused by riding a four-wheeler thruogh the brush. A couple of scans were folded somehow. Give me some time to enhance and add photo's. I have nothing to lose and everything to gain by keeping the realists happy. I appreciate everyone of you. The more you compare when having the matierial the more it comes together. Like he said Andrew "Who would want to be Jim Morrison?" The lag in time is partly my fault.
Posted by Highmountainrogue  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  12:21 PM
Goods in Indiana, Jlizard and I are both in contact with this man whenever he answers the phone. Thank God we are both welcome at his house, not because he is a diety (although he could be) but because we are his friends.
Find dental records and I'll kiss your....foot. You have to understand the huge private and even legal conspiracy that followed July of 71. Again to remind you, legal experts and theorists have agreed that in traceable history no one has had the deck stacked in their favor like this case, to have survived. Pam claimed he was alive at least 3 times in the news. I heard it. For anybodies information I am Highmountainrogue.com. Alone.
Posted by Highmountainrogue  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  12:39 PM
Here is some information I am taking the liberty to give. Jimbo has talked to Cliff. The outcome of that is private.
Posted by Highmountainrogue  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  12:52 PM
I am a full-time musician and songwriter and there are songs of mine that I performed just a few years ago that I would have big trouble remembering the words to now. We're talking 35+ years, and we can't assume that if Cowboy Jim is James Douglas Morrison that he's been listening to and singing Doors songs since 1971. Probably once in a while he breaks them out or happens to hear them on the radio or whatever, but not necessarily to the point where he'd still be on top of them. If that moment was really captured off the cuff, then that's a perfectly honest mistake to have made, and to me, there is a hint of "oh hey yeah, I remember that song!" honesty about that moment reflected in the person's reaction and response.
Posted by Dennis Crane  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  07:27 PM
Not to mention that "Moonlight Drive" was the very first song written for the Doors, was on their first album, was not performed live often (well, best I can tell from some of the set lists I've seen), and did not and still does not get a lot of radio airplay compared to many other Doors songs. So it's just not a song you should expect Jim to remember perfectly many years later...
Posted by Dennis Crane  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  10:01 PM
not to correct you dennis but moonlight drive didn't appear on record until strange days the second doors album, not the first. it was later re-released onto the first album titled the doors on the 40th anniversary edition.
Posted by the goods  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  10:35 PM
Hi David,

Thanks for the message, I'll send you my phone number right now. Would tomorrow morning work for you?? I should be home all morning, I look forward to hearing from you.
Posted by Jagged  on  Sat Aug 08, 2009  at  10:45 PM
Dennis,
I must admit that a few seconds of the "moonlight Drive" segment were eerily similar to Jims rendition of the original..enough to give me a tingle up my spine.

This is just a general comment on the current thread..not an opinion ok? Its just that towards the end of his time with the Doors, his voice; his singing voice was totally different to the begining..too many cigs..too much shouting and I suspect too many polyps for his original tones to recover. Cowboy Jim sounds way to young to me. Dennis as a musician I wonder if you agree?

As for forgetting a few lines here and there...well sometimes when I've had "a few" I forget how to speak! never mind sing...and we've all heard "no no no" haven't we? assuming that was Jim.

Highmountainrougue, cant wait to hear and see the bombshell that you are about to drop on us all!..Jim Morrison is alive! how awesome is that! I cant wait..I may sound flippant , but really I cant wait. Tell Jim (if he's really there) not to worry about fans...we'd leave him alone if he wanted it. Just proof..once and for all! then this site can close down.

Night night (its late here)

Andrew
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Sun Aug 09, 2009  at  03:26 PM
David,

Is there a better time that works for you?? I should be available tomorrow after supper. Just let me know what time works for you.

Have a great evenining!!!
Posted by Jagged  on  Sun Aug 09, 2009  at  07:55 PM
>>not to correct you dennis but moonlight drive didn't appear on record until strange days the second doors album, not the first. it was later re-released onto the first album titled the doors on the 40th anniversary edition.

Ah, of course... I kept thinking that because it was the first Doors song, in essence, that it was on the first album. It's been a while since I've listened to either of those albums.
Posted by Eric Herman  on  Sun Aug 09, 2009  at  09:36 PM
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