Is Jim Morrison Alive?

Jagged, send that # to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
And thanks Dennis waiting.
Sounded pretty wasted to me and yes that pick was off the cuff. I have heard Jim sing some stuff and as has been said singing the ol doors songs the last 30 yrs. is not exactly what he was doing. Gotta get to work fellas'. Please bear with me and see what I have. We'll go from there.

Thanks you guys. He is an awesome man not some wasted freak. Best to all. Don't worry about being a fan. Remember "a feast of friends?"

Hi Everyone!

Just letting you all know that David and I had a great conversation, we shared stories and had a really great interiew for over an hour. I want to thank David for his time, and I will not reveal any additional information until David is 100% sure that it is OK. I will make contact with Jim next, but I am going to wait for another day, plus I want to make sure that I am not stepping on anyones toes.

Have a great night

Easy boy : )

Thanks again David 😉

Hi JLizard,

Would you be interested in talking to me one on one, under the same terms as David?

If so just send your phone number to David and have him forward it to me

Oh well,

I'm obviously not in the "loop" right now! what with telephone calls and emails etc and so on. Seems like the prep for a big scam to me. My friend who REALLY knew Jim Morrison and was with Pam in Paris hasn't heard of these guys ...folks beware..a fraud is in the offing

Andrew

Lol, have no worries. I m not a scammer, I m just doing extra work to try and develop an accurate depiction of events. I have found some amazing info, at this point I dont have enough info to say anything because I want to be 100% sure, plus alot of people have put their trust in me and I respect that and will not move on without their absolute blessing.

I have talked with people way beyond the scope of what everyone else in any forum has even attempted, and because of that, not only do I have the stories, but I also have actual historical facts and I have photos that are brand new and taken this year with an actual high quality digital camera.

How could I know some person from Paris 35 years ago. What was he doing with Pam anyway. I've heard that one before. Does your friend wanna fly and meet with Jim so he can identify him. For what purpose? What's his credability? Probably not gonna happen.
Andrew I'm liking to think we're gonna blow your socks off.
I was working my **s off in 1971. Living this long and not one to be fooled, I am telling you who he is and will maintain that till the day I die. It will make an interesting book.

most of these comments made are either people who are mentil or people who have hope. JIM IS DEAD.but he didnt die in the tub he died in a paris nightclub of a herion overdose.i am a big doors fan and i would love 4 nothing more than jim to be alive but as a previous comment already said what going to happen the doors on tour another album. i think not. WAKE UP!!!!

Thank you for both of your comments!! I know that their are alot of fanatical fans that have been relentlessly pursuing the topic, but thats not what I am doing. I cant say what approach I am taking because that would mean my avenue of research would be saturated with overzealous fans with no interest in research and logic.

I am not trying to prove or disprove anything, rather I am writing a book of facts, yes their are some stories from those involved, which I greatly appreciate, but the stories and accounts are simply in place to act as a parallel time line and justifier of the facts.

If you have any justifiable facts please feel free to contact me and we can arrange an interview.

Have a great morning

Thanks again David!!

I thoroughly respect all the time you have put into helping me, and genuinly repect the time you put into defending your good friend 😉 I have some new info that I would be happy to talk to you about.

There has been a lot of debate of whether Jim died in a Paris nightclub or in his apartment bathtub. A great number of the published biographies are mired in blatant sensationalism, but most bring up some very thought-provoking points. My particular favorite is "Break On Through" by James Riordan and Jerry Prochnicky. Imagine what we would have to talk about if Bill Siddons had demanded to have Jim's sealed coffin opened back on that July 1971 day. By not doing so, he opened a virtual Pandora's Box of mystery and intrigue. Overall, the man is dead, and there is no way I can actually believe that he was reincarnated as a Louisiana banker or low-key cowboy. I'm sure that Jim would have loved to have seen this particular site, as he undoubtedly would have enjoyed all the controversy. Dead over 38 years, and he's still causing trouble. You gotta love it.

Jagged,

My earlier comment of a potential scam in the offing was driven by the fact that this site seemed to be developing into a chat area for a select few; a meeting place, if you will, for those who exchanged data, using this site as a kind of "pal" exchange, whereas in fact, it was designed to be a venue for those who can see a forthcoming hoax.

I cast no aspersions on you personally nor highmountain rougue; nor do I doubt that you seek the truth. My problem is that you have already come to a conclusion which you quantify and excuse by the fact that you're writing a book. I'm sorry but a mere book (amongst many others) simply wont cut it for me..no matter how well written or awesome as I'm sure it will be!..I wish you all success by the way, and assure you that I will probably buy it.

As for the person that I refer to, who was a friend of Jims when he was at at UCLA and before in Florida..who subsequently got back in touch with Jim and Pam in Paris shortly before Jims "death", shouldn't be a source of concern for highmountainrougue as this guy is as queer as a ten bob note. His surname is Rodrigues, I wont give you his Christian name at this point without permission, but you guys should remember the name if you were there. It cant be that hard to remember such a singular surname

Guys I welcome your forthcoming "revallations" I really do..but please share with us all and dont use this site for cryptic messages between the "Jim Illuminati"..stick to the thread and illuminate us all, not just your select buddies!

Cheers

Andrew

Highmountainrogue.com says "as we who were there" meaning the hippies, the underground of rebellion in general, guys' like me, the common threads of several. The old folks compassion mixed with the youth, put a few at the forefront. These people didn't make a move that we would not know about within hrs.
I've been a musician since 12.
A fresh story is usually always the best story. There are no less than three stories at the offset of that July and August. The truth had already beat the other out of the gate. The same as we have today. Exactly. We were all sad and some dissapointed.
Following the trace of information we were relieved when Pam said "Jim is alive." It was awesome! Espedially after the third time in the new's, and more to different people. She hinted it within months.
I thought Ray Manzerick was wery honorable in that video posted Re: "Yea he's in Oregon haven't you heard?" Close enough for Ray to ask "Doe's this guy have proof?" when visited with by Brett Hudson. A long time correspondant working for Fox News at the time. Also monologueing the Current Affair edition of Jim Morrison discovered.
Keeping it simple as possible and armed with information it is quite believable. My experience has shown that more believe it than not, in general. This site excluded.

Dear highmountainrogue,

I'm sorry but I couldn't quite understand your last entry..I wondered if it was in fact a bit of prose poetry as each line seemed to be a kind of stanza..in any event it didnt make any sense at all..to me in any case. you sound like a pakistani on speed I'm afraid

Cant wait for all your new pics of Jim with conclusive proof as you've been assuring us will happen soon..I really CANT WAIT! I think you'd better back off and let this silly thread subside for awhile and start it up again if you must when newbies appear from time to time and we can start the whole thing over and over again.

Night

Andrew

i have a feeling we are in for another let-down

"the goods"

I feel the same way which is why I keep pushing and prodding..I dont do it to keep getting my written word on this site and astound folk with my prose.. I do it to worm the truth out of people (who either have forgotten what they wrote previously or tie themselves into knots with heresay and rumour) I make a living doing this as I am a London Criminal Lawyer who loves leading folk down a false path in order to reveal the truth.

And the truth is what this site is all about, is it not? I'd love Jim to be alive, but I know that he's not. Which means I suppose that I'm saying that cowboy Jim is a fraud..a hoax..a prank; and those associated with this lie are perpetuating this nonsense in order to make money. I'd like to say at this point, that if I'm wrong then please sue me! I will happily come to the USA to defend my opinion and point of view.

However consider this..I would absolutely demand that Jim came to Court and submitted himself to a blood and DNA test. If he refused to do so I would have a subpoena issued against him followed by a warrant for arrest on sight. The same would apply to his surviving family.

Jagged and Highmountainrogue, if you want to proceed down that path, I will supply my email addy to you and swear that if you wish to take action against me, I will come to the town of your choice; pay for my own living expenses and my own defence..how fair is that?

Of course If the action works for me and against you then I'd obviously take you all to the cleaners and probably bankrupt the lot of you. There thats my challenge!.Will you take me on?..We the fans of Jim need to know the truth..and you guys perpetuating a bizzare new story of a mortuary awakening is bollocks and you know it.

My friend Rodrigues is a real character with photos of Pam and Jim, who if necessary will come to Court with me to disprove these extraordinary hoaxers. Come on guys ..I've thrown down the gauntlet...Sue me..I'm ready for it!

I throw the gauntlet of parley at your feet, will you pick it up to conclude this jim alive charade?

Cheers

Andrew

Lol, I m sorry Andrew, but you need to relax a little, I have not even revealed what perspective I am taking on my investigation, plus my investigation is still ongoing, I still have alot of people to talk to. All I m going to say is that at this point and in regards to your previous posts, I will no longer respond to any of your posts out of respect not only for myself and David, but also out of respect for those people who have politely talked to me and provided me with facts and entrusted me with their stories from both sides. Whether Bill is Jim or not, he is still a good person. I m not going to even make assumptions about you, I m not that kind of person. Instead I m going to leave you with this instead.

I am not into chromincally posting on forums, I simply joined to see what people wanted to know, which essentially I would use as some of the direction for my investigations.

Also I did not want to embark on this investigation if Bill was not interested in talking to me(whether he is Jim or not), I m not into trickery or slander. There is such a thing as just being a good human, being honest, sincere, and presenting my findings just as they have been presented to me.

Have a great night and Thank you again for your previous posts.

Jagged

Hi Jagged,

Thanks for your adice about relaxation and particularly enjoy your "lols" which in my game tends to cover up a multitude of sins. Yes I will lighten up and allow you guys to do your stuff...if you're asking me not to comment on the rubbish that that has appeared on this site recently, then no I wont. I have as much right as you, as I assume that you dont own it?

If what I write isn't pertinent or if you find it assinine then feel free to ignore me..in the meantime I speak for myself and many many others who joined this thread looking for answers, and not spin doctors pushing yet another book.

I dont wish to insult you, but as a writer, dont you think the lols and put downs to be a bit beneath you? I suggest that you relax a bit, and dont embark on a silly "whodunnit" that will only result in ridicule.

Andrew

To the right of this is an ad for federatedmedia.net and they're selling funny t-shirts and Holy Toast, a stamper you can stamp on your toast and make it look like the Blessed Virgin. Anyway I was the distributer for Gerald Pitts' video and then he met this song writer from FL and she replaced me and probably never sold a video but her claim to fame was that she really had like a Jesus appear on her toast and sold it on Ebay. She was half Catholic half Jewish.
Hmm. If you can get a copy of Bank of America of Louisiana by Jim Morrison, published in 1974 for under $100, get it. Special thanks to a friend from Greece who informed me about this.
Jagged, you don't know what kind of jewel you have if you're interviewing David Logan. Even I have had the opportunity to speak with him only a few times and always enjoyable. Has anyone looked up who Brad Hutchinson is? Current Affair was a pretty darn popular tv show, at least around Chicago. Jagged, after you've convinced me that you've gotten some true investigative gems from High Mountain, than you might want to talk to me. I'm not sure what pace we should try to break out this story kinda leaning towards highmountain being the pace car.
Wow, Andrew is a criminal lawyer and Jim Morrison is a Bill Loyer.

Thanks for the reply JLizard!! I have a client coming in a few minutes so I dont have time to adequately respond right now, but I'll be sure to respond later.

Have a great night and thanks again for the reply!

Jagged

andrew you are the only one here making any sane sort of since... in my honest opinion i believe that the people posting here by the names "jagged", "highmountainrogue", and "jlizard"
are all one in the same trying to get people to believe them by having more than one voice on their sides. but that's just what i honestly have perceived.
peace
goods

goods you have a point!
I did NOT post that last comment by jagged... it is signed off by jagged but says posted by jlizard so something fishy IS going on.
JLizard

Hi JLizard!

Sorry about that, I m not sure how that happened. Oh well doesnt really matter, you know that I m not you and vise versa.

i'm not saying i know for sure you 3 are the same character, that's just my first assumption. could be hit or miss? i just would like to hear the truth and so far andrew is the only person who has thought of a sure-way to bring out that PROOF that this Bill Loyer fellow is Jim Morrison.
Highmountainrogue.com says fingerprints match, teeth match, eyes match, and dna match? how is all that information even plausible? can you prove all of that my friend? who performed all these comparisons a highly educated doctor? some csi/fbi specialists?
peace to all
the goods

Dear Goods,

Stay strong as these guys will resort to nasty tactics as anyone on the "ropes" will do. Their assertions will collapse in flames in due course, as I always knew that they would.

The stories just dont add up, and I dont need to be a lawyer (actually a Barrister) to do this. Just go back to page one of this saga and follow the thread. There you'll see "Lizard King" etc..I admit that the Andre thing was an awesome hoax..but here's a thing...It sounds very much like the other stories that I've heard about Jim Morrisons death..especially from his particular friend whom I've already mentioned..and who JLizzard, highmountainrogue and Jagged seem not to want to comment on.

I threw a pretty severe gauntlet down as you have seen...and I stand by what I have written. I believe that there is probably the most insideous hoax going on right now. I wouldn't care about it normally apart from the fact that it (the hoax) will probably have a negative impact on many people, not emotionally equiped to deal with it.

I believe that JLizard, highmountainrogue and jagged, if not one and the same; share the same agenda.

Goods, there are no fingerprints of Jim alive, as I believe that our man has beeen in his grave for all these oh so many years. Our hero is dead so lets worship as such..like we do Kings and Saints.

If these fraudsters can come up with CONLUSIVE proof, then I guess we'll all shut up..in the meantime..conclusive remains elusive

Cheers goods..thanks for being brave...JLiz, JLizzard, highmountainrogue and jagged..waiting for your response..and I dont want any of your old crap..I want full and impartial facts..not just your usual bad photos and mere heresay...facts ..facts...facts..thats all that we can believe

Andrew

Lesbian ecards,

Thanks for your thoughts, but I'll give it a misss right now.

I have enough trouble watching what my son looks at thanks

(serious Dad)

Andrew

I've been passionate about The Doors for decades and have been thoroughly researching everything about them since the 70's and here is what I know in 2009. Some info is old, but I have some new...

Jim's not here.

The Gerald Pitts shenannigans would probably crack him up, however. It's bs.

Jim had three children total. Two boys (Chris Bangs included). One girl.

Only Chris has been confirmed with DNA to public knowledge because he pressed the issue to an extent.

Cliff is not a son, just a wishful thinker.

The two other children are brother and sister. For whatever reason, they appear to not be seeking acknowledgement/notoriety or financial gain from the Morrison estate. I have been unable to determine if they already have some sort of quiet deal worked out with the Morrison estate?? They both really resemble Jim, especially the girl. The son is terminally ill.

Fascinating isn't it? Take it or leave it.

Hi listen up "in Mars",

From what I've heard your story is extremely plausable..and the fact that they dont seek the limelight adds creedence to what you say.

I'm sure if true, then for sure they've been well looked after by the Morrison family...I know that my Parents would adore any child of mine..whatever "backdoor" (no pun intended) that they came through.

This is the kind of story that I like! it sounds right, its harmless and nobody gets hurt!..Cheers Listen up! and thanks for sharing.

Andrew

Take a long holiday,.....

Watch the children play....

His brain is squirming like a toad...Take A long holiday!

Evidence Lizard king..thats all we want..not lines to songs that we all know already thanks.

Andrew

Indeed

Complete silence..I hope that mysteries still unfold here

Sorry Andrew we have all moved to a private method of communicating and left you here by yourself, the way you always wanted it. Why would we share our hard work with someone like you??? None of us have time to have conflicts on forums, most people give that up when they graduate from elementary school.

The forum is all yours!!! ENJOY!!!!!!

Hi Andrew,
I'm hard at work trying to recruit a famous rock star like Billy Idol or John Cougar Mellencamp to help break out this greatest story in Rock and Roll history. Mid September supposed to be a fund raiser near here and a friend tells me JCM is scheduled to show up. Kind of like walking on rice paper though as the last thing I want to do is distract the solemnity of the event.
How about you, soliciting advice from any UK rockers or celbrities? I hope that you are and not sitting on your hands awaiting a spoonful of babyfood.

Hi JLizard,

Thankyou for being a Gentleman and not ignoring me..I suppose that the worst thing possible in a debate like this is being kept out of the loop. In England we call it "being sent to Coventry"; I dont know why, as Coventry is a lovely place.

Well I can see that I am in that place right now and I'm not sure if I like it. As a Lawyer I'm used to this kind of thing, especially if I'm fighting an unpopular cause..I'm used to villification..bricks through my window etc..but I must say that this whole thing has me perplexed.

On one hand, as a legal kind of guy; I need evidence as I've said all along, but what "In the Know" doesn't realise, is that I so much want Jim to be alive. He meant so much to me as a kid..I was ten years old when the music stopped.

Good luck getting all those guys together for your benefit concert, and I totally understand your "rice paper" allegory. JLizzard, I sincerely mean this..get your man on stage..and not only will I eat baby food for a year..but I'll also stop drinking whiskey for the same amount of time. I will also openly say sorry to you for my previous rants...and if there is an edible hat to eat..then I'll do it and send you a video feed.

God Bless JLizzard..If jim is alive..don't let him think that I'm a cunt..I'm just a sceptic

Andrew

I forgot to say,

The London "Times" today reported that there was a credible scource saying that Jim was and is a ranch owner...I'm looking for that edible hat.

Anrew

Yeah, whatever's going on, please don't leave the rest of us out of the loop... I'm skeptical but intrigued and open-minded, and like Andrew and others here I just want to see more actual evidence.

Highmountainrogue, if you are in Helena, MT, I'll be coming there briefly in mid-October. If there's a chance I could stop by or meet up with you for lunch somewhere and look at some more photos or whatever you've got, that would be great.

Best,
DC

DC aren't you within the "inner circle" either? Oh well I guess we'll just have to sit back and see what unfolds.

I find it a bit disturbing with American sites rather, that its either a question of trust or you're my enemy..Its just something that the World has to live with in the 21st Century.

I'll take a sabatical for a while now and watch the news..If Jim shows up then I'll eat my baby food and just be happy that he's still around.

If he doesn't why I'll just give up and never contribute to this site again. There is potential here for an amazing scoop..either that or the biggest scam regarding Jim Morrison. I'm really looking forward to the next few months, and , hopefully a resolution of some kind.

Cheers

Andrew

jlizard,

it would be cool to get an artist to introduce jim on stage or something....but...jcm? are you actually serious? why would jim want to go on stage with iggy pop or john cougar? they are lame artists compared to what jim and the doors were. jim probably despises their music if he were alive. way too poppy and melancholy. jim would want to be introduced on stage by a band with some balls. but whatever you think you can come up with to keep this discussion rolling along.
i know you have posted from indiana but just because john cougar is from seymour indiana doesn't mean he will cooperate with a local claiming that a singer who could have been dead 40 years is alive and has fooled all of america and the entire world. he would think you are crazy. i have heard john cougar is a bit prententious anyway. well enough rambling. bring forth some evidence, or bring forth this so-called "jim" fellow.
peace
the goods

Hey goods,
I live in "small town" Seymour so that is why I consider JCM my hopeful light source. Another tid bit is that our own Katie Stam won the Miss America pageant so it we are on the map and possibly ready for another great event. Actually probably not, we should let Ms. Stam have the spotlight on her, no wait, she has the national spotlight, right, it's MISS AMERICA so if a world class story emerges from her hometown everything's as peachy as ever? What if she's even a Morrison fan?? Or if her parents are???
JCM funds the Southern Indiana Arts Center where I like to visit, but of course he hasn't been here for years. I have spoken to the director here about communicating this to JCM but he says that he never speaks with JCM directly. This director's brother was in the band with JCM for his first 3 records.
Last w/e while visiting, the director actually asked me, "So, have you heard anything about the Jim Morrison guy". That's about as good as it's gotten so far.

jlizard,

i no longer reside in seymour but i grew up there just moved to greenwood to try something different. i am now 19 years of age. i went to good ol seymour high school and graduated 2008. i am not aquainted with katie stam but i had her father keith stam as choir director during high school, he never mentioned the doors, but did mention the beatles and beach boys, so it could be possible. but good luck, mellencamp doesn't visit seymour too often if i am correct, his parents still live there right off highway 11 before you hit highway 65. best wishes
the goods

Hey goods,
I really doubt if her wholesome family liked the DOORS, hee hee. JCM is probably dedicated to farmers' causes so won't be able to show too much interest in this either, but right now it seems like my best shot, eh?

Hi JLizzard and the goods,

I didn't mean to interfere at that this point...but what the hell is wrong with Iggy pop? I'd have thought that he was exactly the kind of guy you needed to re-introduce Jim..he knew him didn't he? Or am I mistaken?

Jlizzard I listned to your YouTube interview..it sounded very credible, and I enjoyed listening to your voice. I absolutely think thar someone like Iggy would add weight to your cause.

I'm half convinced..I don't expect you to share your discovories with me after my negativity in the past...but if by any chance you want to keep me in the loop then my addy is .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Good luck with your concert JLizzard..prove me wrong

Andrew

Hi Andrew!

I just wanted to say that your last post was very honorable, I really respect what your wrote. I have some great info about Bill Loyer and I will share it with all of you hopefully today. I still have not come to an absolute conclusion, but I d really like you observations.

Have a great morning!


Jagged

Jagged,
Your morning is my night of course. Actually I've gone beyond the need for total proof. If Jim is alive I'll support all that you do.

I want you guys to succeed in your quest and rise above any negativity. Let me know when Jim (Bill) will appear and I will come and see him. It would be an awesome thing for me and countless millions of others.

Peace

Andrew

Jagged, by all means, let's hear what you've got...

I've been passionate about The Doors for decades and have been thoroughly researching everything about them since the 70's and here is what I know in 2009. Some info is old, but I have some new...

Jim's not here.

The Gerald Pitts shenannigans would probably crack him up, however. It's bs.

Jim had three children total. Two boys (Chris Bangs included). One girl.

Only Chris has been confirmed with DNA to public knowledge because he pressed the issue to an extent.

Cliff is not a son, just a wishful thinker.

The two other children are brother and sister. For whatever reason, they appear to not be seeking acknowledgement/notoriety or financial gain from the Morrison estate. I have been unable to determine if they already have some sort of quiet deal worked out with the Morrison estate?? They both really resemble Jim, especially the girl. The son is terminally ill.

Fascinating isn't it? Take it or leave it.
Posted by Listen Up in Mars on Tue Aug 18, 2009 at 09:15 PM
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How did you acquire this information in regard to Chris Bangs?

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JM