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sylvia browne
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Posted By:
padego
Apr 04, 2005
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Just thought I'd peruse Ms. Browne's site for news of the pope, oddly theres no mention....
http://www.sylvia.org/home/index.cfm
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Pro
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 | 06:00 PM
Has anyone seen Montel Lately?
He now has on this guy called the Mentalizer. He reads peoples minds and can bend spoons with his mind. Sylvia Browne was a guest host on that progam. What the hell is going on in this world!?!?!?! More and More phonies! |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 | 02:07 PM
Pro said:
"Has anyone seen Montel Lately?
He now has on this guy called the Mentalizer. He reads peoples minds and can bend spoons with his mind. Sylvia Browne was a guest host on that progam. What the hell is going on in this world!?!?!?! More and More phonies!"
Montel Williams is either the most gullible man in America or he doesn't care if he fools his audience. Pick one. |
Pro
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 | 06:28 PM
I truly think he's gullible. But, ratings! |
Kam
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 | 09:25 AM
it just blows my mind how many people in this world (seemingly smart ones too) can believe in things as rediculous as this. i mean we have come so far in the past few centuries, yet we still have people who actually BELIEVE it when someone says "i can talk to dead people" or "i know everything. dont ask how, i just do. psychic stuff"
i just cant get my head around it. are people just STUPID, GULLIBLE and IRRATIONAL by nature? it is fair to say it is mostly the percentage of the population with "lower intelligence" believe this crap. just as people can easily believe an urban legend. (mainly people who cant rationalize things, or use common sense).
i mean use your head for two seconds. how can someone know everything? how can someone predict anything when time is not predetermined? how can people talk to the dead? do you think when we die we just float around waiting for people peopel to contact us cos they cant jsut cope with their loss and move one? or maybe we ghosts have a provate line that they keep open for psychics or mediums?? i mean CMON, even if you believe in ghosts, why would you believe we could contact them at will? gimme a break. again, USE YOUR BRAIN.
and just for the record. ghosts ARE NOT real. this is another common sense issue. deal with your loss, or, deal with the fact your a paranoid dillusional and go get help instead of allowing some nut job to "Humour" your dangerous beliefs.
this is it people. time to grow up. time to get real. its not your fault your of lower intelligence and believe in rediculous crap like this. but be man (or woman enough) to accept that you are acting like an idiot, and ACTUALLY START TO USE your brain.
you want to learn things? do it the smart way. research, back theoreys up with evidence to support it, so that they become fact. cooincidences is not evidence. you need to approach everything logically.
if homeless guy told you "im pyschic. give me all your money and i will read your fortune". wud you believe him? no. cos he smells and he probably needs the money for drink. does it make any difference if the "Medium" is well dressed and on tv? no. everyone needs to make a living. some people are just lazy and can exploit idiots like you. |
Pro
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 | 10:56 AM
We know we know, It's going to be alright Kam, Calm down. shhh, it's ok...no no shhhhh
Take a breather. |
Gianna C.
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 | 10:43 PM
I had a personal reading with Sylvia and she was about 80% accurate. I didn't give her any personal information prior and most of the things she said that didn't make sense during the reading, made sense later that month. You all need to stop being haters and get a life! |
Carter S
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 | 12:51 AM
Well Gianna, the whole purpose of this forum is to get people thinking about things that they just assume is real. I use to back up Sylvia, but realized that she has not done anything spectacular that could actually be used as evidence for psychic abilities. If you have read any of the previous posts then you should be aware of the James Randi 1,000,000 dollar Paranormal Challenge. If she has the gift or claims to, then she should and could prove the skeptics wrong. She should have no problem passing under controlled conditions.
Now I am not saying that I don't believe in psychic abilties. I think we all are psychic to some degree, and Im talking about going past instincts and senses. I have had some gnarly stuff happen in my life to just excuse it.
I came into this forum extremely ignorant, which I still am, Everyone is to some degree. But I have learned to challenge the world around me. I don't like the feeling of being suckered into believing something that may be false.
So I don't think it's fair to say that "WE" need to get a life, when there are so many people going to frauds and wasting their money on something that may or may not be real.
If sylvia is real, then great, a psychic. I can only make the judgement of opinion. I don't think her NOT taking the challenge disproves her abilities, but it sure isn't helping her. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 | 01:28 AM
Carter S said:
"I came into this forum extremely ignorant, which I still am, Everyone is to some degree. But I have learned to challenge the world around me. I don't like the feeling of being suckered into believing something that may be false."
Carter, you have no idea how good your post made me feel. I don't think there's a higher purpose this silly little forum could serve than to engender that attitude in people.
I don't like the feeling of being a sucker either. I don't think any intelligent person should. When you feel like that, it usually means that someone is trying to take something from you under false pretenses. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 | 01:32 AM
Kam said:
"you want to learn things? do it the smart way. research, back theoreys up with evidence to support it, so that they become fact. cooincidences is not evidence. you need to approach everything logically.
"if homeless guy told you "im pyschic. give me all your money and i will read your fortune". wud you believe him? no. cos he smells and he probably needs the money for drink. does it make any difference if the "Medium" is well dressed and on tv? no. everyone needs to make a living. some people are just lazy and can exploit idiots like you."
Kam, you're not the best speller I've ever seen, but your reasoning skills are impeccable.
You're exactly on the money with your "homeless guy" thing; people tend to judge a person based on their external presentation and forget to take a critical look at what they're actually saying and doing. Yes, a nice suit doesn't mean that the person inside it isn't full of shit. Some of the biggest liars I've ever encountered were very tastefully tailored. |
Carter S
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 | 02:35 AM
Well Cranky, you may take the credit. You and many others, but mostly you, helped me understand that there are frauds out there, and we need to stop them. I now challenge and analyze everything in my path.
So thank you |
Kam
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 | 04:08 PM
Cranky Media Guy Said:
"Kam, you're not the best speller I've ever seen, but your reasoning skills are impeccable. "
hehe i type so fast i often dont have time to think if im spelling the words right, or even pressing the right keys! heh.
Gianna C said:
"I had a personal reading with Sylvia and she was about 80% accurate. I didn't give her any personal information prior and most of the things she said that didn't make sense during the reading, made sense later that month. You all need to stop being haters and get a life!"
Gianna, listen to what i am about to tell you. You were suckered. You are dumb enough to have given sylvia your money while she blabbered on out of her ass. it worrys me that you both believe this crap, and defend her. this sort of thing upsets me greatly. to see what our "great and smart" race is resorting to. Its pathetic, yet at the same time i cant help but feel sorry for you. No matter what you say, wont change the fact that its all balls. its all rubbish. THAT IS FACT. i sure hope you dont give EVERYONE lots of money this way. |
Kam
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 | 04:13 PM
Carter S said:
"I don't think her NOT taking the challenge disproves her abilities, but it sure isn't helping her."
lets not forget she has often tried to help the police with cases. each time she has been of absolutely no use.
C....O....M..... you see where im going? ill finish...M...O....N.....COMMON.... SENSE!!!!
thats all you need to sort this psychic stuff out. while we dont utilise much of our brains i am almost certain that the rest of it doesnt "do paranormal stuff". |
Carter S
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 | 05:05 PM
Kam,
Uh, I don't recall sticking up for Sylvia Browne, I do in fact remember saying that she is a fraud, maybe you should read the posts, how about that? By calling people stupid isn't going to make them listen to you either.
Is it self-esteem problems Kam? Cause if it is, then you should go see Sylvia Browne. I mean, a counselor.
The thing is Kam, people have had some really sad things happen to them. When they encounter something that is sad, they look for reassurance. They try psychics, because it makes them feel better about their own mortality. It makes them feel like their is hope out there. So, don't attack the victims. Attack the psychics! People are blinded by their emotions, and psychics are using that to their own advantage.
If you're saying I need common sense, then don't. Im sure I have more common sense then you. Because if you had any, you would be able to admit that there may be a chance that you're wrong.
You see, I like to play Devil's Advocate. But I keep an open mind the entire time.
"lets not forget she has often tried to help the police with cases. each time she has been of absolutely no use."
Well, the thing is, the police are the ones that ask for her help. If she is still being asked, then maybe she's not doing such a bad job. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 | 02:20 PM
Carter S. said:
"Well, the thing is, the police are the ones that ask for her help. If she is still being asked, then maybe she's not doing such a bad job."
This whole "psychic helps the police crack a big case" thing is such a load of crap. There is NO documented case of a "psychic" providing specific evidence to a police force that helped them crack a case. On a difficult case, police will, understandably, listen to anyone who says they can help, but the sad fact is that NO "psychic" has ever cracked a case, including Sylvia.
When you see what their "help" consists of, it's usually along the lines of saying that the body of a murder victim will be found "in a wooded area, near water." Uh, where else would you bury a body? I'll be impressed the day a "psychic" says that a corpse will be found in the middle of Times Square and it IS. |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 | 11:08 PM
The idea that police forces have "asked" psychics for help is just wishful thinking on the part of psychics. Phychics can phone in a tip the same as anyone else and the police are obligated to check it out. In some cases, police have worked with psychics at the request of grieving families but as Cranky pointed out there has never been a incident where they actually helped solve a case. |
Carter S
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 | 01:13 PM
Good point guys.
Well, I just figured that the police called the psychics for help, and that if they kept asking, then she/he may not being doing such a bad job.
But I never said that they cracked a case open. I just said, maybe their doing alright enough for the police to keep calling them. But I wouldn't know since I am not a police officer nor a fraudulent psychic. 😊 |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 | 02:38 AM
Carter S. said:
"Well, I just figured that the police called the psychics for help, and that if they kept asking, then she/he may not being doing such a bad job."
As far as I know, the police NEVER ask "psychics" for help. I can't say it's NEVER EVER happened, but certainly the cases you hear about are a result of a "psychic" offering his/her services to the police, who are obligated to be at least courteous to anyone offering a lead on an unsolved crime. |
craving more
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 | 02:13 PM
humm, have any of you ever watched psychic detectives on court tv?? I believe your wrong and police have used psychics to help solve cases. And why do you feel Sylvia needs to prove to you or anyone for that matter what she already knows to be true? Either you believe or don't, I rather doubt that if you don't believe she would be able to prove it to you anyway. And as for the amount she charges for her services, I would venture to guess it is a bit high because of the large number of requests she must get, after all Im sure it would be overwhelming to have hundreds of thousands of desprate souls asking for your help and maybe it is way to reduce the number of requests. What she does with the money, I don't know or care except for that I do believe she does donate to some organizations such as for MS. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 | 04:44 PM
craving more said:
"humm, have any of you ever watched psychic detectives on court tv?? I believe your wrong and police have used psychics to help solve cases."
If what you say is true, then you should have little or no trouble finding verification from a police department, right? Please supply us with such verification at your earliest convenience. Please keep in mind, as has been stated previously, that no one here doubts that "psychics" have VOLUNTEERED to "assist" the police in some cases. I'm talking about verification that the police ASKED for such assistance and that the assistance actually helped solve a crime.
"And why do you feel Sylvia needs to prove to you or anyone for that matter what she already knows to be true? Either you believe or don't, I rather doubt that if you don't believe she would be able to prove it to you anyway."
She could prove it very easily AND collect a million dollars in the process. She doesn't NEED to since she makes a very good living by pretending to have "psychic" abilities, but if she expects to be taken seriously by skeptics (and I assume she doesn't care about that, actually), that's what she'd have to do.
As for the whole "either you believe or you don't" thing, you should see my flying pig. He sails all over the place, just like a little glider. He starts to run, gets up a head of steam and just takes right off. Man, you ought to see it! Now don't you DARE say that pigs can't fly. I said it, I expect you to believe me and that's that. No, I won't demonstrate it to you. After all, I don't have to, right?
"And as for the amount she charges for her services, I would venture to guess it is a bit high because of the large number of requests she must get."
The problem with that statement is that it IS a guess. You have no idea whether that is the reason she charges an exhorbitant amount for her "readings." Logically, if she gets a lot of requests (and she is a sincere person), shouldn't she REDUCE the price to make it available to more people?
Oh, by the way, did you know that she has been caught giving virtually identical "readings" to people who didn't know each other about a year and a half apart? Yes, they were almost completely identical, with the same wording. Gee, what a coincidence that people who had the EXACT SAME problems happened to call her, huh? Why, it's almost as if she was reading off a script that had nothing to do with the actual "clients" involved. Yes, you can verify this for yourself at randi.org. Search for "Sylvia Browne."
"after all Im sure it would be overwhelming to have hundreds of thousands of desprate souls asking for your help and maybe it is way to reduce the number of requests."
So, in your speculation, Sylvia Browne has amazing abilities which she DOESN'T want to share with as many people as possible? She wants to restrict her "services" to those who have enough disposable income to be able to afford hundreds of dollars for a half-hour "reading" (or to the poor and desperate who are able to scrape up that much money)?
"What she does with the money, I don't know or care except for that I do believe she does donate to some organizations such as for MS."
How do you KNOW that she donates to MS? Have you seen the receipts from the charity or her tax forms? Again, you are engaging in complete speculation here.
Since you admit that everything you say here is a guess, shouldn't YOU be asking for proof of her claims so you can see if you're right or not? Why are you so willing to make guesses about her "abilities" and her motivations and simply accept those GUESSES as fact? |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 | 12:50 AM
Did anyone see last wen. show? March 29th? The Lady who seems to have an Ghost or Demons Attacking her, She told her that she really did not want to say this, but that the lady should seek PROFESSIONAL HELP....Aka SHE'S CRAZY. I could NOT believe she told this lady this?! My Word! She KEEPS TELLING FOLKS that there is NO SUCH THING as EVIL or Demons, And there ARE!!
And also when Newmen like Larry King ask about EVIL People and where do they go? She says that they go right into another reincarnation?! I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS!! I BELIEVE THERE IS AN HELL, And that is where ALL EVIL SPIRITS GO when they DIE.
I do no that she HAS COME DOWN in her Prices. If you go to her site you will see this.
And I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE PSYCHICS that help out with COLD CASES, and Other Police Cases.
Did you all see the new Psychi Show on SCI-FI at 10 PM, and again at 12 AM. The Psychic's Name is CHAR ? She has been on the LARRY KING SHOW before.
She is pretty cool, She was on her way to do a book signing deal, and an LOCAL POLICE STATION RADIO Wanted her to stop By, she did, and gave a name of a dude that was MURDERED some 20 yrs. ago, and the Initials of who did it. The Police Officer that was in the booth with her was just amazed! And in Tears. You all have to catch the show. AND DONT' FORGET TO WATCH "GHOST HUNTERS" It is AWESOME!!
Later,
Kelly S. S. |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 | 12:58 AM
Sorry for my BAD SPELLING Folks! I had an Cough Attack.
Kelly S.S. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 | 01:10 AM
Kelly S.S. said:
"Did anyone see last wen. show? March 29th? The Lady who seems to have an Ghost or Demons Attacking her, She told her that she really did not want to say this, but that the lady should seek PROFESSIONAL HELP....Aka SHE'S CRAZY. I could NOT believe she told this lady this?! My Word! She KEEPS TELLING FOLKS that there is NO SUCH THING as EVIL or Demons, And there ARE!!"
And you "know" this how exactly? Proof, please? I'm referring to the existance of demons, of course.
"And also when Newmen like Larry King ask about EVIL People and where do they go? She says that they go right into another reincarnation?! I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS!! I BELIEVE THERE IS AN HELL, And that is where ALL EVIL SPIRITS GO when they DIE."
You are entitled to your belief but there is NO evidence to back it up. Without that, no one has any rational reason to agree with you.
"I do no that she HAS COME DOWN in her Prices. If you go to her site you will see this."
So? Is she still charging hundreds of dollars for a half-hour "reading?" If she is sincere in her desire to help others, why doesn't she drop her price radically to help as many as possible?
"And I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE PSYCHICS that help out with COLD CASES, and Other Police Cases."
What you BELIEVE in this matter isn't relevant. Either the police DO seek the assistance of "psychics" or they don't, whether or not you believe it. If it's true, then you should have little trouble finding a police department that will back that up. Please provide proof that some legitimate police department somewhere in the civilized world has sought out a "psychic" to assist in a troubling case.
"Did you all see the new Psychi Show on SCI-FI at 10 PM, and again at 12 AM. The Psychic's Name is CHAR ? She has been on the LARRY KING SHOW before.
She is pretty cool, She was on her way to do a book signing deal, and an LOCAL POLICE STATION RADIO Wanted her to stop By, she did, and gave a name of a dude that was MURDERED some 20 yrs. ago, and the Initials of who did it. The Police Officer that was in the booth with her was just amazed! And in Tears. You all have to catch the show. AND DONT' FORGET TO WATCH "GHOST HUNTERS" It is AWESOME!!"
Kelly, I hate to break it to you, but "Ghost Hunters" is a TV show designed to entertain its audience and as such doesn't necessarily check out every story told to the producers by Char or any other guest.
In the one and only phone conversation I have had with James Randi (randi.org) we happened to discuss Char and we both agreed that she was the single worst "cold reader" we had ever seen. Cold Reading is a technique phony "psychics" use to make it appear that they can talk to dead people, etc.
Coincidentally, Howard Stern and his crew discussed Char on his show earlier this week. He said he used to have her on the show years ago until he realized she was a total phony and he didn't want to encourage a false belief in an afterlife.
I haven't seen "Ghose Hunters" so I don't know if it's shown Char doing her act or not. If so, I would point out to you that shows like employ editing after the guest is taped and that the producers would have a natural interest in making anyone on the show look as good as possible. Get my meaning here? |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 | 11:08 PM
Dear CMG:
THE "Ghost Hunters" is an SEPARATE SHOW. The Char whatever her last name is is ALSO a SEPARATE SHOW.
Ms. Browne Now does Telephone Readings for something like .50 cents a min. I think and the Money goes to the MS Foundation. Yeah, Yeah,Yeah it ADDS UP. But goes to an GOOD PLACE. She did on last weeks Montel Show hand HIM a CHECK for Twenty-Five Grand for his MS FOUNDATION.
If I were a Psychic I would NOT take MR. RANDI'S Freakin' Test! Just to Prove to Him and the likes of him of WHO I AM? No Thank You.
I don't BELIEVE EVERYTHING Ms. Browne says, or writes. But You WILL NOT find her name in "THE SMOKING GUN" Web Page. You'll Find Mr. John Edward!! But Not Ms. Browne?? Now that is odd IF she is this SUPPOSE FAKE PSYCHIC BEING, Don't you Think so Mr. CMG?
And of ALL PEOPLE to PRAISE and BELIEVE IN; YOU PICK WHO?!! MR. HOWARD STERN??!! About this "CHAR" Lady Psychic being an FAKE?! Howard Stern? The womanizing, Abusive, Horrific inhuman being Howard Stern? How SAD FOR YOU. Seriously. Do
you PAY to LISTEN TO HIM?? And HIS CRAP??
UNBELIEVEBLE?? Then again...This is the US of A.
Howard Stern.....WHO'D EVER GUESS?? And I THOUGHT you were an Intelligent Gent! WHOAAAA MAN!! |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 | 12:55 AM
Kelly S.S. said:
"Dear CMG:
THE "Ghost Hunters" is an SEPARATE SHOW. The Char whatever her last name is is ALSO a SEPARATE SHOW."
My mistake. It wasn't clear from what you wrote that they were two different shows. My comments about television production, however, stand.
"Ms. Browne Now does Telephone Readings for something like .50 cents a min. I think and the Money goes to the MS Foundation. Yeah, Yeah,Yeah it ADDS UP. But goes to an GOOD PLACE. She did on last weeks Montel Show hand HIM a CHECK for Twenty-Five Grand for his MS FOUNDATION."
So, Sylvia now has her own Psychic Friends Network, eh? Do you have any idea what kind of gross that $25,000 came out of? I'm curious what percentage of her total take she's donating. By the way, do you honestly think that Sylvia is personally talking to people for 50 cents per minute? Sorry, but I seriously doubt that. I suspect she is running it like a lot of other "boiler room" type psychic hotlines have been run: with housewives and other people looking for an income who are willing to sign a contract that says that they claim to have psychic abilities (no verification required, of course). Yes, I have seen such a contract personally.
"If I were a Psychic I would NOT take MR. RANDI'S Freakin' Test! Just to Prove to Him and the likes of him of WHO I AM? No Thank You."
What exactly do you mean by "and the likes of him"? Why doesn't she take the test, win the million dollars (as she should be easily able to do, since she has "psychic" ability, after all) and donate the money to MS on Montel's show?
Wouldn't that be a terrific slap in the fact to Randi and every other skeptic who doubts that she has "psychic" powers? By the way, why did Sylvia say on the Larry King Show that she WOULD take Randi's Challenge, then refuse to follow through? This is, of course, on tape, in case you doubt that it happened.
"I don't BELIEVE EVERYTHING Ms. Browne says, or writes. But You WILL NOT find her name in "THE SMOKING GUN" Web Page. You'll Find Mr. John Edward!! But Not Ms. Browne?? Now that is odd IF she is this SUPPOSE FAKE PSYCHIC BEING, Don't you Think so Mr. CMG?"
I don't know whether or not Ms. Browne is featured on thesmokinggun.com, but I will check. Are YOU aware that she was in trouble with the law several years ago? For what? you ask. Why, FRAUD, oddly enough. Oh, by the way, since then, she has changed the way she spells her last name. Gee, it's almost as if she's trying to make it difficult for people to find out about her brush with the law. Nah, not Sylvia, benefactor of the people.
"And of ALL PEOPLE to PRAISE and BELIEVE IN; YOU PICK WHO?!! MR. HOWARD STERN??!! About this "CHAR" Lady Psychic being an FAKE?! Howard Stern? The womanizing, Abusive, Horrific inhuman being Howard Stern? How SAD FOR YOU. Seriously. Do
you PAY to LISTEN TO HIM?? And HIS CRAP??
UNBELIEVEBLE?? Then again...This is the US of A.
Howard Stern.....WHO'D EVER GUESS?? And I THOUGHT you were an Intelligent Gent! WHOAAAA MAN!!"
I didn't "praise" Howard Stern. I merely told you what he said about Char, comments with which I agree, by the way. Char IS the worst cold reader I have ever seen. There are people doing mentalist acts on cruise ships who do it more convincingly than Char, and they don't claim any "psychic" ability.
Stern, by the way, demonstrated the other day that something that Char pretended to get via "psychic" means was easily found on the Internet. It concerned the actress Lisa Rinna's children. Do you honestly think that Char doesn't research the people she is going to appear with on TV before she goes on shows? I guess simple memorization of a few facts looks "psychic" to gullible people, like, oh, YOU. |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 | 01:16 AM
The Folks she READ on Wens. Night, had NO IDEA that she was Coming. For instance She went to an used Car lot and got a lot of names correct. And Five Grand off of whatever car she wanted. For if she got ONE NAME CORRECT the Lady Dealer would give her a THOUSAND Bucks off of whatever car she was going to buy. And ended up not purchasing a car? Then she went to an Diner, and told everyone she was an PSYCHIC, she read the Waitress, and an Couple who had just lost their unborn child. Then she went to the Guy who used to play ROBIN on 'BAT MAN AND ROBIN'. And TO THEIR, THEIR AMAZEMENT She ended up buying a puppy, AND reading his Wife, whose father was murdered, and a Lot of Money was involved. At the end of each show it states how each person she read is NOW doing? The actors wife GOT ALL of HER DAD'S MONEY BACK. Just watch it once......and see what you think then, don't TAKE SOMEONE ELSE MINE OR MR. STERNS Belief about her; Just give it a chance. Who knows?
Oh, and the HELL thing, HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE IS NO HELL?? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 | 03:52 AM
Kelly S.S. said:
"The Folks she READ on Wens. Night, had NO IDEA that she was Coming."
How do you know that? Are you taking the show's word for it? Do you know any of the participants personally?
"For instance She went to an used Car lot and got a lot of names correct. And Five Grand off of whatever car she wanted. For if she got ONE NAME CORRECT the Lady Dealer would give her a THOUSAND Bucks off of whatever car she was going to buy. And ended up not purchasing a car?"
Kelly, did it occur to you that the producers of the show just might NOT show you all the misses? It wouldn't make a very entertaining show if Char was shown guessing wrong about a lot of things, now would it? I suspect you don't know a lot about TV production (which doesn't make you a bad person). Since the show is not live, there are all sorts of ways Char can be made to look better than she would have looked if you were there in person at the time she show was taped. Also, have you asked yourself just why the car dealer might be willing to participate in something like that? I'm not saying this is definitely the case, but it's entirely possible that the dealer exchanged his/her appearance on the show for the promotional value of being on it. In other words, the dealer may have been playing along. Neither you nor I can know the deal there one way or the other.
"Then she went to an Diner, and told everyone she was an PSYCHIC, she read the Waitress, and an Couple who had just lost their unborn child. Then she went to the Guy who used to play ROBIN on 'BAT MAN AND ROBIN'. And TO THEIR, THEIR AMAZEMENT She ended up buying a puppy, AND reading his Wife, whose father was murdered, and a Lot of Money was involved."
Kelly, you talk about reading a person as if there is no way it can be done by perfectly natural means. Trust me, it can be done--in fact, it IS done by many people who earn their living doing a "mentalist" act. Unless you are determined to be amazed by simple carnival tricks, you should try reading up on "cold reading." There are many books about the subject available. Basic cold reading techniques, combined with TV editing can make a person look like they have "psychic" abilities.
"At the end of each show it states how each person she read is NOW doing? The actors wife GOT ALL of HER DAD'S MONEY BACK."
So what? If the woman didn't get her money back, do you think they would have included that information in the show? Also, what does her getting the money back have to do with Char?
"Just watch it once......and see what you think then, don't TAKE SOMEONE ELSE MINE OR MR. STERNS Belief about her; Just give it a chance. Who knows?"
I've seen Char several times. As I've already said, I've seen much better cold reading acts. She is VERY unimpressive as a "psychic."
By the way, you didn't respond to the several things I said about Sylvia Browne. Does it bother you that she was in trouble with the law for FRAUD??
"Oh, and the HELL thing, HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE IS NO HELL??"
I don't recall saying anything about Hell in this discussion. For the record, I don't believe in Hell because there is no evidence of its existance, the same reason that I don't believe in flying monkeys. |
Captain Al
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 | 08:47 PM
Kelly,
You're back, and still being fooled by this psychic crap I see. Here's a transcript of a <a href="http://blogs.usatoday.com/popcandy/2006/03/time_for_my_psy.html">columnist who is read by Char</a>. Notice how all the questions are very general and could be asked of anybody. Then notice how THE PERSON BEING READ SUPPLIES ALL THE ANSWERS!
Fortunately for our study purposes, this columnist doesn't seem to know about cold reading or any other methods of psychic trickery, so she gladly supplies us with a good transcript of her reading, unedited for dramatic effect. Note the first question:
... somebody's that's an 'M'.
How many people out there don't have somebody with an "M" in their life? How about you Kelly? Is there someone with an "M"?
Is this your mom, or your grandma?
It's my grandmother.
See? The person being read gives Char the answer. It's now a simple trick to guess the columnists approximate age which then gives an approximate age of the grandmother. If the grandmother must a senior citizen then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with:
OK, I'm not allowed to give out medical advice, but they're showing me that this is something she probably needs to watch. Does she also have an eye problem?
Yes.
Is she starting to go blind?
No, but ...
She just doesn't see well.
Right.
It is a rare person who doesn't develop vision problems in their old age so this is a safe guess. What we see here is simply Cold Reading, nothing more. Whenever Char gets a 'no' answer she simply shifts to another angle (if the fish aren't biting, try different bait). Anybody could do it, even you Kelly. Think about it, if Char really were psychic, she should be able to do all this without asking any questions.
The matter of "reading" Batman co-star, Burt Ward, is known as Hot Reading. Since Burt Ward is (or was) a well-known celebrity, something like a murder in the family would be public information and could be obtained from any number of sources. There are news clipping services who, for a fee, will gather any type of news items you desire and deliver it to you on a regular basis. So if something unusual about a celebrity happens, a psychic could have access to that information even if it isn't front-page stuff. Since Char seems to "read" a lot of celebrities, she probably spends a lot of time studying Hollywood trivia and collecting "dirt" on people. |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 | 10:33 PM
Okay, Okay, OKAY I get the Message! She well could be a FAKE! She has only written one book. And It did and still does bother me that she'll walk in ANYWHERE and TELL ALL that she is an PSYCHIC? That is Stupid. I would NOT TELL ANYONE that I was one, for fear of ALL WALKS OF LIFE Coming to me for a bloody reading!!
I DO KNOW ABOUT MS. BROWNE BRUSH WITH THE IRS, AND THE LAW. It was NOT ONLY HER, but one of her Husbands TOO.
Would LOVE to know what ALL of her EX'S Think about her, and what they have to say. Would be prettying interesting TV.
So.....You've SOLD ME on the ''CHAR'' Woman. You feel Better? Hope So.
I DO KNOW about COLD and HOT READINGS, I have about Ten or so Books on the matter. I use them to cover up my vent, when the A/C is on, it gets quite COLD in my Room.
Kelly. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 | 03:38 AM
Thanks for mentioning hot reading, Captain Al. I was kind of including that under the umbrella term "Cold Reading" but I should have made the distinction clear. |
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 | 03:50 PM
cranky media guy,
here is the info your requested, note that when you click on the episodes you can read a breif description of the show. Having done so myself I read on several that the police sought out the help of psychics and were able to solve the case.
Im not interested in arguing with you about flying pigs or the likes.
have a good day sir |
craving more
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 | 03:51 PM
<a href="http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/psychic_detectives/episodes/220.html">psychic detectives</a>
ooops(blushing) I forgot the link. Sorry |
Charybdis
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 | 04:41 PM
I hate to tell you this Craving More, but it's a television show. It's not more realistic than Survivor or Big Brother. It's all about making money, and they're not interested in telling you the truth.
Also, looking through the descriptions I see plenty of 'detectives' and 'investigators'. Neither is necessarily the police. Many times the family is listed as being the contact who brought the psychic in. I see no statement that POLICE OFFICERS REQUESTED the psychic's help, at least not in any professional manner. Any psychic can offer their services, that doesn't mean that the police sought them out. Even if they claim in the show that police sought them out, try calling that police department and questioning them about the case. I bet they tell a different story.
The fact is, there has never been a recorded instance of a psychic offering help that directly led to the solving of a crime. No police department has ever publicly stated that psychics ever helped solve a case. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 | 12:50 AM
craving more said:
"cranky media guy,
here is the info your requested, note that when you click on the episodes you can read a breif description of the show. Having done so myself I read on several that the police sought out the help of psychics and were able to solve the case.
Im not interested in arguing with you about flying pigs or the likes.
have a good day sir"
I think Charybdis answered you quite nicely, even before I had the chance to see your email.
Chary is correct that there is no recorded case of a police department crediting a "psychic" with cracking a case. Yes, the shows you see on cable TV leave you with a different impression, but they would do that, wouldn't they?
Yes, why DON'T you call some of the police departments mentioned on the show or on the website and ask them yourself what they think about "psychic" "help?" I think you might be surprised---and enlightened. Unless, of course, you just WANT to believe in this nonsense and you don't want to let a little thing like FACTS get in the way of a good fantasy.
I'm sure, by the way, that you don't want to discuss the "flying pig" thing with me. I suspect you get the point that I was making: that once you've decided that you're going to believe in something simply because someone makes a claim and you WANT to believe in it, you have no good argument against ANY bizarre claim anyone might make. |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 | 05:02 PM
U GO 'CRAVING MORE'!!!! What about "MEDIUM"? OUR NEWS ALL 3 LOCAL CHANNELS DID A STORY ON THE LADY BEHIND "MEDIUM" THE REAL MEDIUM HERSELF! SHE IS FOR REAL! SHE IS NOT A MADE UP PERSON TO CREATE TV RATINGS!!
I have myself looked up the PSYCHIC DETECTIVES to see if it is LEGIT, and it is. I HAVE CALLED, I HAVE EMAILED THEM. It is ALL LIGIT!! They KNEW there would be HUGE SKEPITICS OUT THERE LIKE YOURSELVES, but there ALSO would be BELIEVERS, And it in the long run would HELP MORE LAW INFORCEMENTS When a Person or Persons are Missing, or there is an Lunictic on the Loose to Catch Them. The PSYCHICS DO NOT WORK ALL THE TIME, good old Detective work DOSE NOT WORK all the TIME EITHER. That is WHY there are SO DAMN MANY 'COLD CASES' in this Country.
If U all do NOT want to BELIEVE, Then FINE, don't Discourage others WHO DO WANT TO BELIEVE or who DO BELIEVE ALREADY.
Now.......I want "PROOF" That what you all are saying about "PSYCHICS NEVER HELP SOLVING OR SOLVED OR WORKED ON ANY POLICE CASES, OR DETECTIVE CASES".
Good Day,
Kelly S.S. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 | 05:26 PM
Kelly S.S. said:
"U GO 'CRAVING MORE'!!!! What about "MEDIUM"? OUR NEWS ALL 3 LOCAL CHANNELS DID A STORY ON THE LADY BEHIND "MEDIUM" THE REAL MEDIUM HERSELF! SHE IS FOR REAL! SHE IS NOT A MADE UP PERSON TO CREATE TV RATINGS!!"
Kelly, NO ONE is claiming that the person who "Medium" is "based on" doesn't exist. What we have said--repeatedly--is that there is NO good evidence on which to base a belief in "psychic powers." I stand by that and I suspect my fellow skeptics will as well.
"I have myself looked up the PSYCHIC DETECTIVES to see if it is LEGIT, and it is. I HAVE CALLED, I HAVE EMAILED THEM. It is ALL LIGIT!!"
WHAT exactly is "ligit" [sic]? Yes, we all know the show exists; no one is questioning its existance. If you are claiming that "psychic powers" are "ligit" [sic], would you please show us the proof of that? Merely saying it over and over again is NOT proof.
"They KNEW there would be HUGE SKEPITICS OUT THERE LIKE YOURSELVES, but there ALSO would be BELIEVERS, And it in the long run would HELP MORE LAW INFORCEMENTS When a Person or Persons are Missing, or there is an Lunictic on the Loose to Catch Them. The PSYCHICS DO NOT WORK ALL THE TIME, good old Detective work DOSE NOT WORK all the TIME EITHER. That is WHY there are SO DAMN MANY 'COLD CASES' in this Country.
If U all do NOT want to BELIEVE, Then FINE, don't Discourage others WHO DO WANT TO BELIEVE or who DO BELIEVE ALREADY."
What we are trying to do is to encourage you to find out the FACTS about what you believe in. After all, if there ARE no facts behind "psychic powers," why should you believe in them?
"Now.......I want "PROOF" That what you all are saying about "PSYCHICS NEVER HELP SOLVING OR SOLVED OR WORKED ON ANY POLICE CASES, OR DETECTIVE CASES"."
Kelly, in order for us to prove that NO psychic has ever helped the police to crack a case, we'd have to call EVERY police department in the country and obtain denials from ALL of them, wouldn't we? On the other hand, all YOU would have to do to prove us wrong is get ONE police department to say that, yes, they used information from a "psychic" to crack a case. So, how about YOU provide proof of what you say is true? If there really ARE police departments that have benefited from "psychic" help--and you know about them--you should have no problem doing that, right?
So, when can we expect that information from you?
Sadly, my conclusion so far is that you DO want to be amazed by carnival tricks, as I asked you previously. Oh well. |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 | 10:34 PM
Okay mister Big Mouth; CMG; here is an link, for an Official Site Test done by a very well known DEBUNKER of Psychics. Of just how MUCH and if They Do use PSYCHICS in THEIR Department. Police, Detectives Etc; He was VERY SURPRISED of the outcome. There were NOT MANY. BUT THERE R SOME Departments of LAW that DO USE PSYCHICS. And THEY THEMSELVES NOT THE PSYCHICS MIND YOU, CALL.
Kelly S.S.
http://pac-c.org/police%20&%20psychics.htm |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 | 10:50 PM
http://pac-c.org/police%20&%20psychics.htm
just in case you did not get the 1st link.
pretty impressive I believe.
Kelly S.S. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 | 12:54 AM
Yes, Kelly, that's an interesting survey. Until now, you've seemed to be a believer in the alleged ability of "psychics" to assist the police in crime solving. Given the survey you've pointed us to, are you now questioning that belief? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 | 01:01 AM
Kelly, the survey says that 23% of the departments have used "psychics" at least once in the past. It also says, however, that 62.75% wouldn't use one now. Doesn't say much for police confidence in the usefulness of "psychic" knowledge, does it?
If you remember, I said that I couldn't say that NO police department anywhere had ever called in a "psychic." I also said that there is NO evidence that information given by a "psychic" had ever cracked a case. Nothing in that survey contradicts that. 100% of the respondents said that the case would have been solved without the assistance of the "psychic."
Are you sure that you understand what the survey actually says? It doesn't really support your apparant point of view. |
Captain Al
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 | 08:06 AM
The link doesn't seem to work for me. Damn, I wanted to see that survey. |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 | 02:56 PM
ah your just pissed off because I ACTUALLY FOUND some Info. that States that Police Depts. Wheather they want to admit it or NOT, HAVE USED And HAVE Been Able to SOLVE A CRIME because of "SOME" %'S of an MEDIUM'S HELP.
NOT ALL of the Departments said they would NOT USE one again. In FACT THEY The POLICE DEPT'S. ARE THE ONES that CALLED the MEDIUMS to begin With.
I'm HAPPY for what I have dug up. Too bad you all can NOT admit even to yourselves that What this dude wrote is FACTUAL!
Later Gators,
Kelly S.S. |
Charybdis
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 | 04:56 PM
I fixed your links Kelly.
How do you know this to be factual? Have you fact checked it? Or are you accepting it without question because it supports (in a very small way) your belief that psychics solve crimes?
Not one respondant answered that the crime would have been solved without the psychic's help. Without knowing the specifics of the crimes, it's impossible to know what information the psychics provided, or if any of it was meaningful information. After all, when a woman goes missing or turns up dead, it's not that big of a stretch for the psychic to predict that 'a man was involved'. Likewise, predicting that the body will be found 'In a wooded area or vacant lot' is a pretty easy one. What we need is a case where the psychic predicted 'The body will be found at the intersection of Main Street and 5th Avenue, hidden under the third bush from the fence. He was murdered by John Doe of 1313 Mockingbird Lane on the evening of September 8th just outside of the local Dairy Queen because he beat up John Doe's sister.'
After all, if psychics are so damned good, how come they can't provide this level of competency?
While it's undeniably an interesting survey, ultimately it's meaningless for both sides since the pool of participants was so small and because specific information about each case wasn't generally sought or provided, both of which are correctly noted on the page. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 | 07:09 PM
Kelly S.S. said:
"ah your just pissed off because I ACTUALLY FOUND some Info. that States that Police Depts. Wheather they want to admit it or NOT, HAVE USED And HAVE Been Able to SOLVE A CRIME because of "SOME" %'S of an MEDIUM'S HELP."
Uh, Kelly, can you read? A total of ZERO PERCENT of the police in the survey said that the crimes would not have been solved without "psychic" "help." ZERO. In other words, ALL the police who said they had used a "psychic" said they WOULD have solved the crime without the "psychic"'s "help." So, even if the "psychic" provided help, it wasn't needed to solve the crimes in question. Your interpretation is unsupported by the information in the survey.
"NOT ALL of the Departments said they would NOT USE one again. In FACT THEY The POLICE DEPT'S. ARE THE ONES that CALLED the MEDIUMS to begin With."
I'm not looking at the survey at the moment, but I believe a minority of the police who said they used a "psychic" in the past said that they had contacted the "psychic" initially.
"I'm HAPPY for what I have dug up. Too bad you all can NOT admit even to yourselves that What this dude wrote is FACTUAL!"
How do YOU "know" it is factual? I'm not saying it absolutely isn't, but I don't KNOW that for sure. Neither do you. Also, I would really have appreciated a question asking the police exactly WHY they used a "psychic." I think the answers to that would have been VERY interesting. |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 | 09:43 PM
Thank U Chary!! I have forgotten just how to do that.
Okay, Okay, Okay you all still are NOT connecting with me. I will dig up some more. If I ever get over this ROTTEN COLD!! And sorry to have been so late in answering you all, The storms in my Area hit pretty hard. And I live in an Modular Home!
Grabbed my Bible, which has my Will in it, and my Pockets; My Dogs Ashes, and my living dogs, and went down with my Mother to my very DRUNK Brother's family's Home, Garage/Basement for the whole night and most of the day of Friday.
Later,
Kelly. |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 | 10:51 PM
http://www.nbc4i.com/news/4171519/detail.html
another link I have found, and HOPEFULLY put on here correctly!!
And......Okay.....I will admit I have found NOTHING in the way of PROOF that PSYCHICS SOLVE CRIMES. But....They DO Help. Or Police Depts. Would NOT hire them or seek them out.
Kelly |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 | 11:07 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/09/11/1062902048579.html
Here is another one I just found. What do U all think about this one?
Kelly |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 | 01:46 AM
Kelly, I just read that article. As a person who has been a morning drive radio DJ, a talk show host, a professional wrestling manager and has participated in numerous media hoaxes, my opinion is that it's a bunch of publicity-seeking bullshit for a television show. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 | 01:49 AM
Kelly S.S. said:
"I will admit I have found NOTHING in the way of PROOF that PSYCHICS SOLVE CRIMES. But....They DO Help. Or Police Depts. Would NOT hire them or seek them out."
Kelly, police departments are obligated to listen to anyone who says they have information about a crime, whether they claim to be "psychic" or not. Whenever there is a murder that gets a lot of media attention (like the Son of Sam case), the police get hundreds, even thousands, of leads, good, bad and bizarre. They HAVE to consider them, just in case there is a kernel of truth to any of them. I wouldn't say that constitutes an endorsement of "psychic powers" by the police. |
Captain Al
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 | 12:01 PM
Just been through that survey linked to by Kelly S.S. To my great surprise, 41% responded "yes" to the question of the police being the ones who called in the psychic. Since a lot of the participants seem to be very experienced as indicated by their rank, this survey would cover a lot of years. So perhaps 41% is not as surprising as it appears because its only been in the last decade or two that the scam aspect of psychic "powers" has been front and center in the public eye. Before that is was fashionable to believe there may have been some truth to it. So like the average person, a police officer might have been tempted to persue that avenue of investigation. It would be interesting to know exactly how long ago their departments were involved with psychics.
What's even more curious is although 23% said they have used psychics in the past, only 5.5% said their department uses them now. Does this indicate a trend? And if 35.75% said they would use a psychic, why is it only 5.5% do so?
Also, I wonder how many of the respondants would be in a position to know the official details of the occassions when their departments used psychics (especially the one who worked for the department that had 12,000 members). Perhaps some were relying on rumor or heresay for their answers.
The other thing we must not forget is this survey is 13 years old. Technology has given police departments new tools and these tools are constantly getting better. But after more than one hundred years of trying, psychics have not advanced one iota. In fact, they still have not even been able to confirm even one example of their work. That is the most accurate survey of all. |
Captain Al
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 | 09:46 AM
I can't believe it! I just found out there is going to be a "Psychic Fair" in my town later this month. Someone please talk me out of going down there and spoiling everybody's fun. |
Charybdis
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 | 01:04 PM
You can't spoil their fun, Captain Al. The vast majority of these people want to believe and are immune to arguments against these fraudsters. At best you'll cause bemusement, but you'd have to try really hard to actually piss people off. You'll never get them to take a hard, honest look at their beliefs. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 | 01:50 AM
Captain Al said:
"I can't believe it! I just found out there is going to be a "Psychic Fair" in my town later this month. Someone please talk me out of going down there and spoiling everybody's fun."
Far be it for ME to talk you out of something like that. Hey, why don't you go there, bringing a little tape recorder you can hide in your pocket, find a "psychic" and ask them to tell you about your deceased Aunt Lil. You know, the one you never had?
Get the whole reading, then tell the "psychic" that you never had an Aunt Lil and get the reaction on tape too. Golly, you might even threaten to report them to the cops for taking money under false pretenses, although I suspect the defense would be that the presence of a skeptic (you) messed up the "psychic's" powers. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 | 01:51 AM
Hmm, a follow up thought. When you have possession of that tape, perhaps you can find someone in radio willing to air it. I think that would make an entertaining segment, don't you?
If you can't find a radio person with guts, you could send the tape to James Randi. I'm sure he'd appreciate it. |
Charybdis
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 | 08:31 AM
"All readings are provided for entertainment purposes only"
They can have their cake and eat it too. |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 | 01:12 PM
OH MAN! Thats SO ODD!! I HAD AN AUNT LIL! IN MY FAMILY. NOW THAT IS A NAME NOT USED MUCH TODAY.
COULD U BE.....I SHUTTER TO SAY.....PSYCHIC CMG??
Now THAT would be SCARY!!
Kelly S.S. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 | 02:17 PM
Yes, Kelly, I AM psychic! In this particular case, the psychic emanations bounced off you and Captain Al--you know, like radio waves.
By the way, now that we're talking, I'm getting an "R." Who is the person in your life with an "R" in their name? "L?" "M?" |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 | 07:17 PM
"ROSE"....Hum...You R pretty good at this 'Cold Reading Stuff'!! Another 'L'; Hum.....Just by Marriage, My Brother's Wifes Sister Inlaw, Oh YEAH! And at one time in my Life I did have an Aunt Linda Sizemore! Way to Go Man!! Now for the
'M'.....Mary? Yes I have an Mary in my Family.
you should start charging a 'Fee' MAN!!
LOL!!
Kelly. |
Otto
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 | 07:33 AM
What makes me nervous about Sylvia, is that she *does* seem to give specific answers. You know, none of this "somebody in this part of the room knows someone whose name starts with the letter R" crap, like that Crossing Over guy.
Someone will ask "Who killed my friend?", and she seems to say "Someone by the name of John Smith"
If the case if ever solved, that person can get specific verification as to whether she's right or not...
I'm not saying I believe, I'm just saying at the very least she's more sophisticated than most psychics |
Otto
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 | 07:39 AM
P.S.:In a similar vein is the "who's the ghost in my house?"
"Her name is Molly Defoe. Go back and check the records of who used to live there, or farmhouses before anything else was built there, you'll find her"
That's a specific answer.
I'd like to talk everyone who's ever gotten a *specific* answer from her(not just "take your lecithin for your back", or "yes, your dead mother watches over you" type of answers) to see whether they can verify her answers... |
Kelly S. S.
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Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 | 11:01 PM
Hey, she was having an Seminar SP? some years ago in the late 1990's In Atlanta, Ga. I took my Mother.
My Mother got choosen to ask a QUESTION OR TWO. she asked:
1. Will my son ever remarry and be happy again also move OUT?
2. Will my Daughter ever get rid of her Anxiety Attacks, and be Happy?
Answers:
1. YES, HE WILL REMARRY, AND YES "THEY" WILL MOVE OUT, SOMETIME AFTER CHRISTMAS. [This was in August.] AND YOU NEED TO BE 'TOUGHER ON HIM' YOU NO 'TOUGH LOVE', YOU ARE NOT TOUGH ENOUGH ON HIM'!! YOU HAVE TO DO IT HONEY OR YOU'LL REGRET IT.
2. YES, SHE NEEDS AN 'HIGH PROTIEN DIET', SHE ALSO HAS FIBERMYOLGIA. AND YES ALL WILL MOVE AFTER CHRISTMAS.
Several Years ago, I had tried the HIGH PROTIEN DIET. To LOOSE WEIGHT, Which I DID, over a hundred pounds. I also noticed I did NOT HAVE ONE ANXIETY ATTACK THE WHO YEAR!!
My Brother REMARRIED IN 2002.
WE ALL 'ALL' OF US, MOTHER INCLUDED MOVED IN MAY 2002. After living in one area for over 30 Yrs.!!
So.....Yeah She was correct, but her timing really sucked in some areas.
Kelly. |
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