LifeWave Energy Patches
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Posted By:
Fawkes
Feb 24, 2005
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Now you can get more energy from a patch! I especially like the way that
they "believe" that it works. It is also based on years of research from
many fields. While the research may be valid, I'm not sure that their
results were intended to be used with a "patent pending blend of water,
oxygen, amino acids and organics applied to a polyester fabric and sealed
within a polymer shell".
http://www.contactplus.com/lifewave.htm
We can finally have our super-soldiers now!
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HOHOHOHO
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 | 04:41 PM
Traduction (fran |
Joel
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 | 05:01 PM
French,
I <i>have</i> taken the testimonials into account. As I said, testimonials that can be readily explained by the placebo effect, wishful thinking, and/or fabrications fit perfectly the classical pattern of a scam. Ho hum, nothing new there. If it looks like a scam, walks like a scam, and quacks like a scam, then it's probably . . .
If Nafissatou Diallo testified that she had been taken up into a UFO and been anal probed by aliens having giant silver heads and no eyes who teletransported to earth and back by wearing Lifewave teletransportation patches, finding her testimony not believable does not mean that I failed to take her testimonial into account.
Have you taken into account that I tried the patches and they didn't do anything for me? Have you taken into account all the things that would have happened by now if Lifewave patches really worked as advertised (even if you might quibble with some of the items that I wrote on <i>my</i> list)? Have you taken into account that "Dr. David Schmidt" admitted in a government filing that he fabricated his stories about how the patches work? Have you taken into account that when challenged by TGA in Australia to back up its advertising claims, Lifewave didn't even bother to respond? |
WWSN
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 | 11:37 PM
From the James Randi Educational Foundation
<a href="http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1367-the-physics-of-relativity-and-a-lesson-in-skepticism.html" target="_blank">The Physics of Relativity and a Lesson in Skepticism</a>
"And therein lies an inherent danger: the desire to cling on to some kind of |
WWSN
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 | 02:32 PM
I do not believe we can any longer blame an online translator for the garbled nonsense posted by Lifewave affiliate and promoter Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau.
He really IS as daffy and confused as he sounds.
<b>"You would look for the confusion to get your ideas."
"We have to stop to lie and try to have a real basis of clear discernment."</b>
Frenchy has no clarity and no ideas. He's a scammer and a con man - a French version of Dr. David Schmidt. And like his hero Dr. Schmidt, he cannot discuss science, physics, research, studies, biology or medicine because everything about Lifewave patches is a fraud.
And sadly, I'm quite sure he knows it...
Bob
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HOHOHOHO
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 | 03:02 PM
Tu dis:
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WWSN
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 | 03:27 PM
Frenchy tells us:
<b>Only experience and not belief must be our guide...!
And scientific research is not opposed to individual experience.</b>
Experience and your beliefs can NOT be our guide when it comes to phony Lifewave patches - and scientific research is absolutely opposed to your individual personal and purely subjective experience.
Because there is NO scientific research behind Dr. Schmidt's honey & molasses band aids. There is nothing but the placebo effect you claim to experience and your "belief" that David Schmidt is a "doctor" and that his patches DO something that cannot be measured, duplicated, or recorded by any generally accepted scientific method or machine.
As stated in the article from the JREF:
"...so many physics cranks, charlatans, and New Age gurus of various stripes take advantage of the credulous |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 | 01:13 AM
<b>NEW LIFEWAVE |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 | 01:14 AM
<b>PART 2</b>
One of the other fine products made by BDI is the Electro-Myoscope 85P. http://www.designmed.com/ems.html . That purpose of that device, as stated by BDI, is so that the physical can |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 | 02:13 AM
<b>MORE ON THE ELECTRO-ACUSCOPE GIZMO USED BY HOMER NAZERAN</b>
<b>Pair Indicted on Fraud Charges in Medical-Device Probe</b>
"A Mount Vernon couple operated a clandestine health-care clinic that offered bogus treatments for hepatitis and cancer with unproven medical devices, according to a federal grand-jury indictment. . . .
"Wednesday's indictment follows an extensive investigation by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and Washington state Department of Health. . . .
"A recent Seattle Times investigation, 'Miracle Machines,' found that many energy devices flourish in the underground market |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 | 02:15 AM
And here's the indictment that specifically mentions the Electro-Accuscope:
http://www.casewatch.org/doj/brandt/indictment.shtml |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 | 02:36 AM
So I stand corrected about the Electro-Acuscope device being banned. Actually, it's a prescription device (http://www.casewatch.org/doj/brandt/indictment.shtml, paragraphs 16-18), apparently approved by the FDA as a Class II medical device for providing electrical stimulation for the temporary relief of chronic pain. http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfPMN/PMNSimpleSearch.cfm?db=PMN&ID=K883911
But if it's a "prescription device" as stated in that indictment filed by the U.S. Attorney General, how did Nazeran and Haltiwanger get ahold of it and why were they using it on test subjects? As far as I know, neither Homer Nazaren nor Emily Haltiwanger are doctors. Could they be indicted for obtaining and using that device on other people without a medical license, as Donald and Sharon Brandt were indicted in the Washington case? |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 | 02:44 AM
And if I now understand this correctly, Nazeran and Emily Haltiwanger took 30 subjects who reported being in chronic pain, put Lifewave patches on them and hooked them up to an electronic device that is FDA approved for providing temporary relief of chronic pain, then asked the people if their pain subsided and recorded their answers. When the test subjects said, Yes, their pain indeed subsided, Nazeran and Haltiwanger attributed the temporary pain relief <i>not to the FDA-approved temporary pain relief device but to Lifewave patches</i>.
Does anybody else perceive a problem with this test methodology? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 | 05:48 AM
Joel,
Bulls eye! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 | 11:00 AM
Joel,
Didn't we also have the muscle building patch from LifeWave where you went to the gym, pumped iron for a month and the results were from wearing the patch?
LOL |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 | 11:56 AM
EDHUK,
Yes, we also had the surgery free face-lift patch, that gave you smoother skin if you used it with the face cream.
BTW, the Electro-Accuscope is also advertised as being effective for treating acne, facial wrinkles, and trauma wounds (http://www.functionabilitypt.com/electro-facial.htm), for "detoxification" and to "bring you back into balance"(http://www.enlightenedlivingwellness.com/Acuscope-Myopulse-Therapy.html; http://althealthcenter.com/eas.html), for reducing unsightly cellulite (http://www.biohealth.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=57), and is sold as being effective on both humans and horses (http://www.drhardy.org/Acuscope-Myopulse-Therapy.html).
Same as Lifewave patches. Huh. Imagine that. |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 | 12:00 PM
Maybe Homer Nazeran's next study will use Lifewave patches to measure and validate the effectiveness of using the Electro-Acuscope to treat acne, facial wrinkles, pain, heavy metal poisoning, cellulite, . . . |
WWSN
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 | 11:44 PM
<b>LifeWave Donates More than $1,000,000 in Patches</b>
LifeWave has partnered with non-profit organizations across the United States to facilitate the donation of more than 15,000 packages of patch products to those who need it most in various parts of the world. The value of this donation is in excess of $1M USD! The massive effort has been organized and spearheaded by LifeWave distributor Thomas Burke.
As part of the campaign, 20 healthcare providers from across the United States made a trip to Haiti on June 25 to administer LifeWave patches to thousands of Haitians suffering from a host of issues, such as pain, exhaustion, lack of sleep and muscle tension.
The Haiti donations were coordinated through two non-profit organizations based in Florida, the Hands Together of the Palm Beaches and the Association of Haitians Living Abroad for Development (AHVED). The patches will be distributed through two major hospitals and 23 clinics in Haiti that operate under the Haitian Heath Department.
Prior to making the trip to Haiti, healthcare providers participated in patch training sessions led by Thomas Burke and LifeWave distributor Dr. Karen Kan, M.D. The sessions were conducted via webinar and ensured each healthcare provider was prepared to make the most effective use of the patches.
As this project unfolds over the next several months, more healthcare practitioners will be travelling to clinics in other parts of the world to provide pain relief, more energy, better sleep, and to boost antioxidant levels.
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WWSN
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 | 11:52 PM
This is so wrong and so sick on so many levels.
Just what Haiti needs after their earthquake - $1,000,000 worth of honey & molasses placebo band aids from the phony Dr. David Schmidt.
"As part of the campaign, 20 healthcare providers from across the United States made a trip to Haiti on June 25 to administer LifeWave patches to thousands of Haitians suffering from a host of issues, such as pain, exhaustion, lack of sleep and muscle tension."
Did anyone from Lifewave actually make the trip? No - affiliate Thomas Burke and New Age quack Karen Kan taught some other dum-dums how to use Lifewave patches via "webinar".
Here are the web sites for the two organizations who are acting as pawns in this Lifewave publicity campaign:
<b><a href="http://htpalmbeach.com/" target="_blank">Hands Together</a>
<a href="http://www.ahved.org/contact-us.html" target="_blank">AHVED</a> </b>
I plan to write to them to warn them about their promotion and endorsement of the Lifewave scam and how it might affect other charitable organizations view of their operations.
I think YOU should all do so, also!
Bob
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WWSN
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 | 09:43 AM
Here is the e-mail I sent to the two above-named Haitian charitable organizations:
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Dear Sirs-
The Lifewave multi-level marketing company and it's founder, David Schmidt, have been advertising and promoting the news that:
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<b>LifeWave Donates More than $1,000,000 in Patches</b>
LifeWave has partnered with non-profit organizations across the United States to facilitate the donation of more than 15,000 packages of patch products to those who need it most in various parts of the world. The value of this donation is in excess of $1M USD! The massive effort has been organized and spearheaded by LifeWave distributor Thomas Burke.
As part of the campaign, 20 healthcare providers from across the United States made a trip to Haiti on June 25 to administer LifeWave patches to thousands of Haitians suffering from a host of issues, such as pain, exhaustion, lack of sleep and muscle tension.
The Haiti donations were coordinated through two non-profit organizations based in Florida, the Hands Together of the Palm Beaches and the Association of Haitians Living Abroad for Development (AHVED). The patches will be distributed through two major hospitals and 23 clinics in Haiti that operate under the Haitian Heath Department.
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Lifewave "patch products" are part of a massive pyramid marketing scam selling worthless, phony and fraudulent "patches" made with honey & molasses, based on pseudoscience and marketed and sold by fake doctors and New Age quacks with no education or background in traditional science and research. There are no legitimate studies or research behind these products and your endorsement of and association with this network marketing scam brings the credibility of your own worthwhile organizations, goals and objectives into question.
"$1,000,000 in Patches" is worth about $100 in paper and plastic - they might serve you well as temporary band-aids and bandages, but they have NO value other than that. The storage, distribution, and disbursement of these placebo patches in Haiti is an offensive waste of your limited time and resources. There are so many in need - Lifewave patches have no value to those who are suffering from homelessness, disease and starvation. For more real research and information pertaining to Lifewave patches please visit this web site:
<b><a href="http://lifewavescam.com" target="_blank">LifewaveScam.com</a></b>
Lifewave is using your good cause and your commitment to the needy people of Haiti to garner publicity for their MLM money-making scheme. Your partnership with and acceptance and use of Lifewave patches perpetuates this fraud upon the public at the expense of those you are trying so desperately to help.
Please reconsider your association with this Internet marketing scheme - we recommend that you return their worthless patches or simply dispose of or recycle them and publicly disavow the Lifewave company and their cabal of quacks and charlatans. The United States government, the FDA, the FTC and other state and federal regulatory agencies and departments have been notified regarding this scam and they are being investigated and we are confident that they will soon be prosecuted and shut down. Do not let the reputation of your fine organizations be dragged through the mud through affiliation with this illegal and immoral company.
Sincerely,
Robert J. Burtis
The WorldWide Scam Network
<b><a href="http://lifewavescam.com" target="_blank">LifewaveScam.com</a></b> |
WWSN
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 | 10:04 AM
Interesting....
The AHVED Haiti organization page was updated three times in 2010 (about two weeks after the earthquake) but has not been updated since then (more than a year and a half later):
<b><a href="http://www.ahved.org/index.html" target="_blank">AHVED</a></b>
The e-mail I sent to their Haiti address bounced back.
<b>Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain.</b>
Even the "Donation" button at the top of the page is dead.
There is no mention anywhere on their web site about the $1,000,000 Lifewave donation to their cause. And yet a year and a half AFTER the earthquake Lifewave brags about their generous donation of placebo patches. This is the same sort of self-serving promotion that David Schmidt did after the Katrina disaster.
Perhaps victims could open up the Lifewave band aids and EAT the honey and molasses.
Now THAT is something that might really help the poor people of Haiti...
Bob
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Fred
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 | 01:45 PM
Making a fortune by marketing a worthless product is sociopathic.
But then, making a claim of benevolence by donating the worthless product to be used as an alternative to the desperate need in Haiti for basic medical supplies?! That qualifies as psychopathic.
In Haiti there is one MD for every 7,000 citizens - the per capita income is $1,300 (2008). So even if a sick Haitian believes to be feeling better after a few free patches, the cost for a year's supply will exceed the Haitian's annual per capita income. |
Joel
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 | 03:24 PM
David Schmidt is probably patting himself on the back, saying, "The people of Haiti are hungry, so I gave them Lifewave hunger suppressing patches. What could be more humanitarian than that?"
David Schmidt is one sick, sick bastard. |
HOHOHOHO
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 | 04:05 PM
Il n'y a pas que la faim pour Haiti.
La souffrance physique est aussi une des choses les plus insupportables pour tout etre vivants.
Quand tu pourras faire la preuve que les patchs ICEWAVE (scientifiquement et non avec des pseudo explications na |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 | 05:51 PM
Bob,
As you know, this is not the first time Schmidt has used tragic events to attempt to look good.
I wonder if he claims these "gifts" of charity on his taxes?
Mmmm
Dave |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 12:51 PM
Off Topic: The thread seems to be here still here OK with the software upgrade.
Apparently because this thread was started under the now "double obsolete" software, one must now register to even see the thread at all - not just to comment.
So anyone who was a non-registrant (like me) will assume the thread died.
Ironic that it is the very thing that made this thread so interesting, should now be the same reason it is obsolete. No more will folks from all over the world stumble on to the thread via MOH's high Google ranking, along with ultra easy, no registration posting.
Besides, I don't think the MOH Curator ever intended the site to be a resource for the important issue of medical scams - in fact the word "scam" is not found anywhere at title page.
I think whatever importance this thread had to inform was an emergent property of a web site created for fun and entertainment. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 12:51 PM
Off Topic: The thread seems to be here still here OK with the software upgrade.
Apparently because this thread was started under the now "double obsolete" software, one must now register to even see the thread at all - not just to comment.
So anyone who was a non-registrant (like me) will assume the thread died.
Ironic that it is the very thing that made this thread so interesting, should now be the same reason it is obsolete. No more will folks from all over the world stumble on to the thread via MOH's high Google ranking, along with ultra easy, no registration posting.
Besides, I don't think the MOH Curator ever intended the site to be a resource for the important issue of medical scams - in fact the word "scam" is not found anywhere at title page.
I think whatever importance this thread had to inform was an emergent property of a web site created for fun and entertainment. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 01:05 PM
Also: apparently anyone who actually was a registerd poster on this thread, but ONLY posted here in the old, old software, was acidentaly dumped in an automated process to clear suspected spammers. |
WWSN
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 01:35 PM
So is this message board/forum still functional?
Or can we at least post a url to a new board for interested people to participate in?
And will this forum remain accessible to both Google and researchers?
Bob
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Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 01:42 PM
Bob I think the deal is to even view the thread you have to register first. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 01:59 PM
On the other hand, if you were kin to the dwarf eaten by the hippo, you wouldn't find MOH entertaining. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 02:14 PM
My understanding: Even if we didn't see the spam, the problem was so many bots tried to attack the old software just because it was old, that the bots created serious bandwidth problems just by trying the vulnerable obsolete software. So the old thread here has to be hidden behind registration, |
Joel
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 06:02 PM
If that is the case, then this old forum will not fulfill the function of being some place where people who are searching for solid information and reasoning about Lifewave patches can find it, which is the reason that I have dug up facts regarding Lifewave and posted them here these past years.
I suggest that we start a new thread with an introductory comment that says something like, "Although there is a treasure trove of history and facts regarding Lifewave and the people behind Lifewave at the old forum at the following link ______, for technical reasons people now have to register as a MOH user before they can see it. We've continued the discussion, and re-posted some of that information, here." |
WWSN
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 06:46 PM
I also suggest that we find a more reliable forum than the "Hoax" message board. I'll look around - anyone who has suggestions please post links.
Although they blamed the selective deletion of my WWSN posts on "overzealous mods", their explanation and apology makes no sense. I have never posted anything remotely resembling spam and I always posted as a registered member. My posts were always thorough, referenced, documented and professional. There was nothing "spam" about them - EVER. And it happened at least twice. How many "overzealous mods" are working on this forum?
Comments such as:
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"This sounds exactly like something a proponent of scams or conspiracies might say. “Something has happened that I don’t agree with. It’s a conspiracy!”
Alex doesn’t work for you. It’s not Alex’s job to provide you backups of the forum. If you want backups so bad then you make some. It turns out to be surprisingly easy when you stop whining long enough to look for them."</b>
This sounds more like something that David Schmidt - or one of his lawyers - would say. This guy is not interested in the years of effort, work and non-profit research people have contributed to the Hoax forums. He'd rather attack me personally and paint me as a conspiracy nut who won't stop "whining". LOL!
I no longer trust the people associated with the Hoax forum and recommend that we take our discussions and work elsewhere. They certainly won't miss us.
Bob
WWSN
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Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 08:33 PM
Actually the "other" MOH thread comes up on google, so that could take this thread's place without having to register on MOH to view.
I"m not sure what to say about bob being pissed again, thought bob apologized for being pissy first on the new thread.
There are lots of mods and I'm sure many enjoy engaging in pissing contests, but the curator has provided all this and I think deserves praise.
MOH conspiracy is just plain silly.
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Joel
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 09:02 PM
I'm appreciative of Alex and the mods for providing this forum/public service. Of course, the MOH is theirs and they can do with it whatever they please including deleting old threads or shutting MOH down at any time of their choosing, or not bothering to do all the work necessary to make old software compatible with new software (must be a pain in the backside, I'm sure). So all of the old information remains available only at their pleasure, discretion, continuing work, and appropriate business considerations for them.
If anyone knows of a better venue for this thread, I'm open. Absent a better suggestion, then we should probably just continue the discussion on the new Lifewave thread http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forums/viewthread/8237/P77 and repost the greatest hits from this forum. |
WWSN
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 09:12 PM
I agree and I never said anything about any "conspiracy". This was the suggestion of one of the mods, who said:
<b>"This sounds exactly like something a proponent of scams or conspiracies might say. “Something has happened that I don’t agree with. It’s a conspiracy!”
Alex doesn’t work for you. It’s not Alex’s job to provide you backups of the forum. If you want backups so bad then you make some. It turns out to be surprisingly easy when you stop whining long enough to look for them."</b>
The WWSN is truly a non-profit web site and has been since 1998. We have no Google ads (while the MOH site DOES).
I am not pissed at all - I've gone up against some of the biggest MLM scammers on the Internet and beat them all (although I'm still working on David Schmidt...). I'm just saying that based on the actions of numerous "overzealous mods" and the condescending and insulting tone of the guy quoted above, I recommend that interested parties find another venue to discuss the Lifewave nanotechnology patch scam.
Of course, you good folks are free to post anywhere you like and I wish you all well.
Bob
WWSN
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Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 09:40 PM
Somehow, I'm kinda gonna miss Frenchy. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 09:49 PM
The norwegian mom I won't miss at all, she kinda creeped me out with the whole mother/son placebo deal. |
The Curator
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 | 01:45 PM
Hi, It's Alex (the curator). Just wanted to pop in and, first of all, apologize for this forum disappearing for a few weeks. Trust me, it wasn't intentional. What I thought was going to be a simple process of upgrading to the new version of the software that runs this site (Expression Engine) turned out to be very difficult. Frankly, I think the difficulty was because the new version of the software wasn't tested very well for quality control and was full of bugs.
The bugs were apparently compounded by the size of this site. What wouldn't have been problems for smaller sites became major issues for this site, and kept causing the server to crash.
In particular, there was an issue with the comment form. The new software couldn't handle the constant submission of comments by spam bots. Again, this was made worse by the large number of comment forms all across my site.
The spam bots weren't filling out the captcha form, so the comments wouldn't appear on the site, but nevertheless queries to the database would stack up and eventually the server would lock, making the site inaccessible. So I had to make the comment forms invisible to the spam bots by only allowing registered members to see them. It was either that or wait for the software people to fix their software, and who knows how long that would take.
I thought about downgrading to the old version of the software, but that wasn't an option either because I didn't have an old copy to install. So I was kind of stuck.
Anyway, that's why everyone now has to register to submit comments.
However, no one has to register to see this forum. All the threads are still viewable by anyone.
So anyway, my apologies again for the disruption. Hopefully everything should settle back to normal now. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 | 02:40 PM
" All the threads are still viewable by anyone."
:::Miss Litella Voice::: Well, that's very different - nevermind.
Thank you Alex. It seems this thread became availiable again to me at the exact time I was registered, so I figured you had to be signed up to view. |
Joel
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 | 04:03 PM
<b>POWER BALANCE REACHES $57 MILLION SETTLEMENT OVER FALSE MARKETING</b>
"Power Balance has agreed to a potential $57 million settlement in a federal class action suit that alleged the company falsely marketed its bracelets, wristbands, pendants, and other accessories claiming they gave wearers physiological benefits like improved balance, strength and flexibility.
"Power Balance agreed to change its marketing and advertising practices. Under the proposed settlement, the company will not represent in any advertising that its products will “improve balance, strength or flexibility” or that its products “work with your body energy,” unless it is able to provide evidence that supports the representations.
"Live demonstrations that Power Balance held to exhibit the benefits of its accessories will also end, and the company said it would remove some video postings of demonstrations."
http://www.manatt.com/news-areas.aspx?id=13784#Article1
Gee, and the Power Balance bracelet had so many personal testimonials to back it up, and athletes were wearing it. Just like Lifewave.
Alas, it was nothing but a scam foisted upon a gullible public that fell for new age marketing hype about a "human energy field" and "bioresonance" and "quantum" and "nanotechnology", and who fell for "muscle test" parlor tricks. Just like Lifewave. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 | 07:22 PM
http://www.synergyinaction.com/lifewave.html
So, this tired old crap is still online.
Check out the good old days!! |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 | 02:09 PM
Thanks, EDHUK.
That website, http://www.synergyinaction, belongs to Dr. David Kamnitzer, who is into "leading-edge ideas in healing, spirituality, and social transformation" and who offers "holistic chiropractic care." A chiropractor, of course. A "holistic" one, no less. Ooga-booga medicine x 2.
He hawks on that website a product from "Clarus Transphase Scientific" that appears to be a pendant that he says uses "energy resonance" and "clarifies the fundamental information pathways between physical matter, linking to its conjunct non-hertzian field. Use it to "Keep Your Energy Field Clear — Even in Front of the Computer!", he urges you.
These clowns never stop.
But notice that the good doctor Kamnitzer apparently no longer sells Lifewave; it's not one of the ooga-booga products on his "Products" page. So here's somebody who apparently got in on the ground floor of Lifewave (which David Schmidt touted as being the equivalent to getting in on the ground floor of Microsoft), but nevertheless abandoned the product. How about that. Maybe even holistic chiropractor David Kamnitzer eventually figured out that Lifewave patches are a scam.
I hate to admit it, but I may have to start giving holistic chiropractors just a little bit of credit. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 | 10:41 AM
Still hoping to hear from Lissa...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 | 12:55 PM
Lissa in Australia,
Hi Lissa,
Are you making any progress in your attempt to arrange the very first genuine research study of the patches in relation to autism?
Cheers,
David
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Joel
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 | 04:39 PM
It might be difficult for Lissa for find an Australian doctor who will not summarily laugh her out of his office now that the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) has weighed in.
As we know now, the TGA investigated Lifewave's claims and concluded that Lifewave had failed to produce "even minimally persuasive evidence that the advertised products [Lifewave patches] could have the therapeutic benefits claimed in the advertisements." On that basis TGA found the complaint against Lifewave to be "justified," and ordered Lifewave distributor Michael Podolski who was hauled in front of it on false advertising charges "to withdraw any representations that the advertised products are safe, or that they have benefits in relation to appetite control, craving control, weight loss, detoxification, antioxidant boost, anti-aging, skin repair, pain relief, relief of pain from injuries, relief of chronic pain, relief of migraines, relief of arthritis, enhancing energy, enhancing stamina, reducing fatigue, or promoting restful sleep."
http://www.tgacrp.com.au/index.cfm?pageID=13&special=complaint_single&complaintID=1349 (TGA Complaint No. 2009-01-030, dated April 16, 2009).
Still, I would be intrigued to hear from Lissa what became of her attempts to get a doctor to perform valid testing on Lifewave patches relating to autism. Too bad she disappeared. Lissa, are you out there? |
Joel
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 | 11:10 PM
<b>David Schmidt Tells the U.S. Government That Lifewave Patches Contain Honey and Molasses</b>
It is now more than 9 years since David Schmidt filed his first patent application for his Lifewave patches, which was provisional patent application no. 60/413,617 filed September 25, 2002.
His non-provisional application was rejected four times by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (PTO) on 5/23/07, 2/19/08, 8/19/08, and 12/11/08. His attorneys at Shaw Pitman appealed the latest rejection. When the Appeals Board summoned those attorneys to personally appear before the Appeals Board in Washington, D.C. to explain why the PTO should give Schmidt a patent, rather than face the heat they abandoned Schmidt’s patent application and instead filed a continuation application (serial no. 12/915,419) thus more or less starting the whole process again from scratch and voluntarily surrendering about 7 years from the life of any patent that might result.
In his latest application, Schmidt gives this explanation of the materials in his miraculous patches with their supposedly revolutionary medical technology:
<i>Claim 68. The system of claim 58, wherein the Right-Handed molecule [in the patches] is a sugar, wherein the sugar is in a form selected from a group consisting of high fructose corn syrup, honey, molasses and sugar cane.
Claim 69. The system of claim 58, wherein the Right-Handed molecule is associated with one or more of components including honey and molasses.</i>
(Application Serial No. 12/915,419 by David G. Schmidt for “Biomolecular Wearable Apparatus,” Amendment dated October 29, 2010, signed by attorney Patrick A. Doody)
There you have it, folks: The Lifewave “technology” consists of honey and molasses, according to David Schmidt and his patent attorneys in their most recent filing with the Patent and Trademark Office in 2010. |
Joel
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 | 11:19 PM
<b>Ever wonder why David Schmidt doesn’t advertise Lifewave patches on television?</b>
As they say down on the farm: Pigs get fat; hogs get slaughtered.
<i><b>King of Infomercials found dead in jail cell </b>
October 3, 2011. Phoenix. A TV infomercial pitchman accused of defrauding more than 226,000 people out of nearly $52 million has died in his Arizona jail cell of an apparent suicide, authorities said on Monday.
Donald Lapre, 47, was found dead at about 8:30 a.m. on Sunday at a facility in Florence, Arizona, where he was being held on fraud and other related charges, U.S. Marshal's spokesman Matt Hershey said.
Lapre, the self-proclaimed "King of Infomercials," was awaiting a trial next October after being indicted on 41 charges stemming from a nationwide scheme to sell what was billed as "The Greatest Vitamin in the World.”</i>
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44763429/ns/today-today_news/t/king-infomercials-found-dead-jail-cell/
Gosh, and Lapre had all those people giving testimonials for him and everything.
Schmidt so far has been smart enough to keep a low profile so as to fly under the FTC’s radar, so that he doesn’t end up like Donald Lapre. He knows that if he started doing television he would end up in the FTC’s crosshairs. |
pat in aus
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 | 05:39 AM
i think that is very tasteless reporting joel. greedy people lost some money and a greedy man lost his life but so did his family. he must have felt the heavy burden for what he had done to give up and die. nothing to feel glee for there. you may need to put his death in a new context if you want anyone to hear your message. have we lost the plot? |
Joel
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 | 06:30 PM
Here’s a fascinating scholarly study just published by a guy with an MBA and a PhD on MLMs including actual data on the profit/loss experienced by MLM participants, published on the FTC’s website. The compensation plans he studied included the Lifewave compensation plan. See p. 7-31.
<b>The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing
By Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D., Consumer Awareness Institute</b>
http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/bizoppstaffreport/00008-57281.pdf
Among Mr. Taylor’s conclusions:
1. Of the 29 MLM payout histories actually studied, 99.6 percent of MLM participants lost money. Ibid at p. 7-27.
2. “On average, one in 238 actually profited after subtracting expenses, and 996 out of 1,000 lost money – to say nothing of the time invested.” Ibid.
3. “As a general rule, the more a new recruit invests in an MLM program, the more he or she loses. This, of course, is true of most any scam.” Ibid.
4. “[O]ne can do much better at the gaming tables in Las Vegas.” Ibid. at p. 7-26.
5. “As a business model, MLM is likely the most successful con game of all time. The very people who are out recruiting are themselves victims until they run out of money and quit. And because victims seldom file complaints, law enforcement rarely acts. It is a vicious cycle, No complaints, no law enforcement action; no law enforcement action, no complaints. So the game goes on.” Ibid.
6. “<i>George W. Bush rewards his Amway supporters with very little action against MLMs from 2001 to 2008</i>. After coming into office in 2001, President George W. Bush quickly replaced [FTC] Chairman Pitofsky [who had tried to reign in MLM schemes, see p. 10-28] in June 2001 with Timothy Muris, an MLM sympathizer who had worked for Amway’s legal firm. And you guessed it, MLMs found in him a safe haven for the duration of his tenure, with only about three cases (NexGen 3000, Trek Alliance, Burnlounge) pursued out of hundreds of MLMs that could – and should – have been prosecuted. Ibid. at 11-5.
Here’s my favorite, the author’s advice to would-be MLM recruits:
<b>6. “If someone tries to recruit you into an MLM, you can save yourself the trouble of researching the MLM and doing all this debugging and calculating by asking the person who is recruiting you to show you his tax returns for the past year. Then ask that others he has recruited in the past couple of years show their tax returns – or some proof that they have earned the promised rewards (less expenses). Be prepared for some blank stares and evasive answers.”</b>
What a simple, easy, and elegant way to test whether the person attempting to recruit you into an MLM is pretending to be your friend but is actually trying to scam you.
Please, could someone out there who is considering becoming a Lifewave distributor ask that question of the person who is trying o recruit you, and let us know the response?
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EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 | 07:51 AM
Further LIES in the name of LifeWave.
No surprise here then...
http://acupuncture-patches.blogspot.com/p/from-dr-dean-clark-dc-official.html
Check out Dr Dean Clark who proudly states he is..."official chiropractor for the United States Olympic Track & Field Team."
Perhaps Dr Clark should speak with Jill Geer at USATF
http://www.usatf.org/
.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Apparently, she says he is NOT!
Why am I not surprised.
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Joel
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 | 12:26 PM
Gosh, if true, that could mean that Dean Clark has violated
Title 36 of the United States Code, Section 220506, which prohibits anyone from using the word "Olympics" to promote his own goods or services without authorization from the United States Olympic Committee, and provides for civil liability against someone who does so.
Oops. |
Charlotte A Surjono
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 | 10:35 PM
I want to follow -up comments about Lifewave Scam Roy A surjono |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 | 08:58 AM
https://www.facebook.com/people/Roy-A-Surjono/742824436
Nice car!
I wonder what the tone of the comments will be? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 | 09:21 AM
Roy's FB "friends":
David Schmidt:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000615982699
Karen Kan:
https://www.facebook.com/karenkan
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002070958211
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1049225613
Ria Gilday
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000212898074
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr8Y3wRlgDY
I guess we can predict the tone of the "comments".
Does that make me "psychic"? |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 | 05:57 PM
http://newsblaze.com/story/2011041812330200001.pnw/topstory.html
"Filmed in Studio City, California earlier this year, host William Shatner and MAF reporter Doug Llewelyn interview LifeWave Founder & CEO David Schmidt, Company Ambassador Suzanne Somers and LifeWave Health and Science Director Dr. Steve Haltiwanger. The comprehensive interview covers topics such as how the LifeWave line of patch products work, the scientific evidence the Company has gathered to support its product line, and a testimonial from Suzanne Somers who talks about her use of LifeWave patches and how they play a critical role in her daily regimen."
Say what!! |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 | 11:01 PM
The scammers get more and more brazen by the day.
As advertised on late night TV.
http://www.theedgechip.com/
"The Edge Pain Chip works by using frequencies that only affect the pain signal."
Mmmm Sounds familiar.
"Modern day quantum physics has defined the presence of an energy field within the human body."
WOW
"The Edge technology taps into this Traditional Chinese Medicine. Energy within the body flows along well-defined meridians. The proprietary method of programming within the multi-layered chips positively influences these meridians. Resulting in pain relief for Back, Neck, Knees, Shoulder and other painful body parts or an increase in energy."
See, it's that easy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0TOUOYMWjE&feature=player_embedded
How do so many people run scams in broad daylight without consequences? |
Joel
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 | 01:46 PM
Hilarious, and sad at the same time.
The Edge Chip's website says, "Frequency is the measurable rate of electrical energy flow that is constant between any two points." That's about as hilariously incorrect a statement about science and technology as Dr. Steven Haltiwanger's definition of nanotechnology, the moron and/or crook (take your pick) that he is.
So the Edge Chip invokes all the same buzzwords as Lifewave including quantum, frequencies, acupuncture points, energy meridians, ancient Chinese medicine, and "no chemicals enter your body." Like Lifewave, the Edge Chip has a pain version and an energy version, has lots of testimonials including by people in sports who would endorse monkey poo if doing so made them a few extra bucks, you can use extra ones at the same time for more benefit, and of course there's the obligatory money back guarantee. And hey, if someone claims in a testimonial that it works, then that's proof beyond dispute that it's not just the placebo effect at work, right?
Also like Lifewave, the Edge Chip comes with FDA disclaimers disclaiming any notion that the things actually do anything, or can effectively treat any condition. And, like so many other scam products, the Edge Chip scam stickers are significantly cheaper than Lifewave scam patches. So why would anybody buy expensive Lifewave scam patches when they can buy cheaper scam stickers instead?
I don't know, EDHUK. It's very sad that our government lets people get away with defrauding the public like this. And it's sad that so many people are so uneducated, gullible, and self-delusional that they buy into this stuff.
Sad that attorneys help them perpetrate their frauds, and television companies sell them advertising time. Sad that athletes like Steve Garvey, Lamar Odom, and Shaq lend their names to the scams for a few extra bucks, as if they're not rich enough already. Sad that people like Suzanne Sommers will hawk any scam product for a few extra dollars. Sad that people like William Shatner assist them for an extra payday. Sad that anybody believes for a minute that if an athlete or actor endorses it, then it must be real because who understands more about science and cutting edge technology than athletes and actors presenting paid endorsements.
It's a breakdown in morals, education, and intelligence within our society from top to bottom.
Let's hope that someday we get a president who believes that crooks shouldn't be allowed to defraud the public, and who puts some teeth into the FTC.
Alas, I fear that politicians in this country and sellers of fraudulent pain/energy/sleep/diet/anti-aging/gas mileage products will always share a deep and abiding bond as fellow members of the Brotherhood of Crooks, who all profit in their own way by selling their own respective brands of snake oil to a gullible American public. Why take action against fraudsters? Why eat their own? Reminds me of that old joke about why sharks don't eat lawyers. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 | 07:19 PM
"It's a breakdown in morals, education, and intelligence within our society from top to bottom."
Couldn't agree more, Joel. I believe it's way past time that schools had a course on critical thinking...you know...the other national deficit!
The course would teach children how to examine claims about any product or service. Be it the great "deal" from the local car showroom or LifeWave patches.
It's also way past time to deal with the likes of Peter Popoff and the many other faith healers on TV. The psychic counselors who talk to the dead for a contribution to their lifestyle.
It's way past time to deal with the likes of Kevin Trudeau and his list of "things they don't want you to know".
It's way past time to deal with the folks who want you to buy their plans for a perpetual energy machine that will provide free electricity for your entire home with some left over to sell back to the electricity company.
This country needs to get real.
There's a huge difference between the "American Dream" and pure la la land!
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Joel
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 | 03:15 PM
EDHUK:
<i>The psychic counselors who talk to the dead for a contribution to their lifestyle.</i>
How about this "Pet Psychic to the Stars":
"During a consultation, she uses her psychic abilities to connect with the animal’s spirit, chakras, and auric field. She tunes into the vibrational frequency of the animal's spirit guide and angels. She also telepathically communicates with the animal to gain deeper insights and complement her intuitive findings." http://keen.stage.keen.com/details/Psychic-Veterinarian/Pet-Psychics/5600417
How can anybody say with a straight face, "I tune in to the vibrational frequencies of your cat's spirit guide. For a fee, of course"?
<i>I believe it's way past time that schools had a course on critical thinking..</i>
They do have such courses. They're called math and science courses. People just need to take advantage of what's offered to them for free on a silver platter.
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EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 | 05:44 PM
It's all looking rosy for LifeWave:
http://www.lifewave.com/pdf/press/PressRelease_New-HQ.pdf
"The new headquarters includes a variety of new amenities for LifeWave including: a separate 4,000 sq. ft. research and design facility, a
new training area for distributors, a media room that will allow the company to produce its own webcasts and broadcast training sessions, among other video production tasks."
One can only guess at the quality of the web casts! |
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