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Suraj (An Indian)
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 | 01:23 AM
hello everyone, i read all above comments about the great Frank Hopkins. i don't know why people are not ready to believe on the true story of frank hopkins which come as "Hidalgo" movie. i think more of above comments might have been written by different distance horse rider (the losers). They could not do any thing in their lives so they are jealous to Mr. frank hopkins. Shame on you all. A movie and so many different sites can not be made on a fake man. He was a real hero. |
zenzicube
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 | 12:41 PM
Has anyone noticed how many of the sources cited as proof by the Long Riders Guild quote the founders of the Long Riders Guild? Since when is a circular proof a valid proof at all? Has anyone noticed how many of the other sources are reviews by movie critics? Those critics don't cite their sources at all, so we can't even find out if they were credible or not. Maybe Hopkins was a fraud, but if would be nice if they actually provided more than weak, circular arguments to prove it.
Fusco openly admitted that he embellished Hopkins' story. He admitted that he made up the name 'Ocean of Fire', hunting leopards, bandit ambuscades, and other fantastical element of the story himself. If someone else dreamt up these stories, how does that make Hopkins the charlatan? According to the O'Reillys, Hopkins is a fraud because *he* promulgated these stories. Is Hopkins guilty of other people's lies?
I have no idea how much of Hopkins' story was true or not, but I can only regard Basha and CuChulain O'Reilly, and their methodology, with suspicion. |
sapphire
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 | 10:00 AM
*hello everyone, i read all above comments about the great Frank Hopkins. i don't know why people are not ready to believe on the true story of frank hopkins which come as "Hidalgo" movie.*
Simple. It's not true. |
sapphire
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 | 10:01 AM
*Has anyone noticed how many of the sources cited as proof by the Long Riders Guild quote the founders of the Long Riders Guild? Has anyone noticed how many of the other sources are reviews by movie critics?*
No, apparently nobody else but you has "noticed" this stuff you mention. |
Deputy Dave
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 | 11:10 AM
I wasn't going to bother with any further comments, but it is raining right now, and this is just too easy.
Bud, you are quite possibly correct about my alleged contradiction. Disney claims the movie is "based on a true story". How much of it is true? It's hard to determine. The "Ocean of Fire" did not take place. And there are no records to prove Frank T. Hopkins worked for Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. But, what of the rest of the movie?
I will agree that Disney pushed it a bit too far with the tagline: "The true story of a man who went halfway around the world to find himself". That statement is false.
Lightbourn, just in case you are including me in "They're the ones..." and "...call them names", check out this link:
http://www.thelongridersguild.com/Word02.htm
Pointing out CuChullaine O'Reilly is also known as Asadullah Khan is not name-calling. Just the truth. And we all know how important the truth is on this forum.
And, if truth is all that is driving this topic, why are the detractors not attacking other movies? How about "Dreamer"? It is another movie about a horse. It is stated to be "Inspired by a true story". Well heck, we all know Mariah's Storm did not go on to win the Breeder's Cup, (she finished 9th). And we even have two characters that are Arabs. Princes, even. So, why no attacks on the veracity of this movie?
The unfortunate truth is this controversy is politically-driven. The villains in "Hidalgo" are Arabs, the hero an American. And we just cannot have that in a politically-correct world, now can we. It is an insult to left-wing liberals everywhere. (No, lightbourn, I'm not name-calling).
Check out the Longriders Guild and you will see the O'Reilly's attacks are largely against Frank T. Hopkins, not the movie or John Fusco. Again, it is my opinion this is politically driven. Oh, well.
Bud, I'll have to read your book, Expatriate. I enjoy historically correct fiction, and it appears to be getting good reviews. And I have looked into some of your artwork. "Good Hair Day" looks interesting. (Anyone else that wishes to see it can go to: http://www.thesexparty.ca/savy-art/good-hair-day-bud-rudesill).
Good luck with the research into belly dancing, (http://www.bellydanceforums.net/im-searching/7369-there-such-thing-nude-bellydancing-10.html).
And, no I am not posting these links as an attack. I merely don't want folks to think I am making anything up. Truth, right?
The rain has stopped, so I've got to get busy. I'll not be posting again, but I will continue reading for the entertainment value. |
Bud Rudesill
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 | 08:52 PM
Dave,
Yes, I think this site is definitely about what is truth and what isn |
Bud Rudesill
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 | 08:02 AM
Beware of a probable identity theft hoax. I just received an email perprtedly from this site. It included what appears to be a legitimate response url that reads as follows:
Thank <img src="http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/EE/images/smileys/wink.gif"
width="19" height="19" alt="wink" style="border:0;" /> Chandi.
I responded to it and believe I have sent persontal information to this hoax site. Don't do what I did.
Bud |
Jose F. Medeiros
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 | 12:12 PM
Greetings, I was originally from Rhode Island, and my parents and I moved to San Jose, California in 1972. The Social security office had my mother listed as Tecuma. Did John Hopkins, "Hidalgo " have a daughter named Tecuma? This may be an error in their database as my parents told me that we migrated from Portugual, when I was two and my mother's name is Telma. |
HGH
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 | 07:19 AM
Thanks for |
Mei Wood
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 | 07:52 PM
I think you all need to watch the movie "Big Fish." I think it's going WAY far to make the stories of this man's life into a hoax--different times, different strokes. While I believe it's highly likely he fabricated his stories, I believe it is just as likely that he meant no harm, and that he was truly attempting to convey a far larger message. Microscopic egos tend to make mountains out of molehills . . . |
158 glasses of guanabana juice
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 | 03:40 PM
*While I believe it's highly likely he fabricated his stories, I believe it is just as likely that he meant no harm, and that he was truly attempting to convey a far larger message. Microscopic egos tend to make mountains out of molehills*
Could have been a cry for help on Frank Hopkins' part, all this tall-tale telling. |
oyun oyna
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 | 02:26 PM
These are all true facts. He was a big mouth lier but he still did wild and crazy things and was an adventurer and I am sure an interesting man. He was Codys partner in the Wild West Show and also a guide for Brigham Young and others headed west. Cody said JYN was the biggest lier he ever met and my great grandmother, the most honost woman I ever knew, said Cody was a prize winning lier as well. These people were notorious, advertursome, exciting and dishonost |
sapphire
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 | 02:23 PM
For being gullible? |
sapphire...
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 | 10:27 PM
Looks like the post I replied to got deleted. |
derrick
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 | 11:25 PM
Some of the greatest legends of history are not fully accurate. The Iliad, Robin Hood, King Author, and many other rich tales of human endeavor cannot be authenticated. The value of these tales were never tied to the amount of reality they contained. Conversely, their value is in the larger than life tale, the hero who overcomes, the spirit of human triumph, these make the legend great. For myself, I hope Hopkins did it and if not, I hope he wished he had, and told the tale well. I hope never to live in a world filled only with truth, accurate and uninspired! Thanks Hopkins for the tale however you got it!!! |
Tommy
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 | 05:36 PM
Why glorify a pathological liar? |
Rocket German
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 | 01:34 AM
This is rather interesting, this discovery is attractive, i will clear look at it. |
Joy Green
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 | 01:42 AM
I like the story of Frank Hopkins either, I never know about this, a big thanks for sharing. |
Gary Gaskill
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 | 11:19 AM
Here's the scoop on Frank T Hopkins(according to my research).The 1880 U.S. Census shows that he was born in New York <1865>. His father was Roger Hopkins, who worked in a sawmill. His mother, born in NY, was a housekeeper. He had 2 siblings, Matie, age 11, and Nora, age 9. He was never an employee of Buffalo Bill's "Wild West Show" and never traveled to Arabia. [Source] The Long Rider's Guild, Review of "Hildalgo" by Cynthia Culbertson. His employment included a stint as a ditchdigger, and as a horse handler for the Ringling Brothers Circus. |
Gary Gaskill
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 | 12:09 PM
For an interesting Timeline Of Deceit, see "The Hopkins Hoax" at thelongridersguild.com/hoax-deceit.htm |
sergio schaefer
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 | 12:20 PM
In a world full of legends and "tall tales", we often forget how important they are to us. We all grow up hearing stories from friends and loved ones, that make us a better person from the lessons learned from them. Is it so hard to take a wonderful story for face value? Why are we compelled to disect every detail? Does it change the moral of the story if it's not all true? Every culture has their heros and unsavory characters. Frank T. Hopkins is no different. He has become, wether we like it or not, a familiar person in western culture. No diffferent from Billy The Kid, Wyatt Earp, and Doc Holiday. They did'nt do everything hollywood said they all did either.I am a noted regional Cowboy Poet here in Colorado. I have personally written of the stories of Frank Hopkins. It is entertaining and a favorite of adults and children alike. He is just one more channel to set your imagination free of your daily city life. Try not to judge him too harshly. After all, he is a small part of a time that we, as western lifestyle people grew up loving. To discredit one of them, would only leave us to discredit them all. |
lemony
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 | 05:03 PM
Well, everyone of normal intelligence above the age of 7 knows that Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy don't exist, but insisting that they do, and trying to convince people that they do, when you should be able to understand that they don't, goes beyond financially motivated dishonesty. It says that you don't even care about the truth. It could be a sign of mental illness. And the same is true when it's believing Frank Hopkins' tall tales (or Baron von Munchhausen's) rather than the existence of Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. |
sergio schaefer
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 | 05:23 PM
I'm NOT saying that the truth won't "set us free". I'm merely saying that the biggest problem everyone has here, is that the MOVIE said it was "based" on true events. NOT ALL EVENTS. I think you should send off a letter to Hollywood. That's who made it.That's who you should complain to! To bring Santa Claus into a discussion like this one is does'nt even apply. The "spirit" of Sant Claus is alive and well. Frank Hopkins is not. It's NOT a personal matter between me and ANYONE. It's America we live in. Believe what you want. Pick your battles about Frank Hopkins with his family. I don't suffer from any "mental illnesses",but I enjoy a good story when I hear one! Stick with your documentaries and the History Channel if you want the whole truth, all the time. If you don't? Well. I'd plug your ears to the news,the President, and entertainment channels! Best of luck on your endevours! |
lemony
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 | 03:56 PM
Well, hope you enjoy your bedtime story tonight, then. It's all true, you know. |
Laughing
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Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 | 06:17 AM
This conversation has lasted 6 years. That is far more hilarious than the truth or fiction of a movie. |
Hah
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 | 10:14 PM
Funny you contributed to this "ridiculous" conversation and kept it going, eh? |
Marc
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 | 12:52 AM
What does the "T." means in his name? |
sapphire
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 | 11:05 PM
Teller-of-lies. |
FSE123
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 | 11:36 AM
Well i am writing this from the Arabian peninsula. I have been all around this desert patch from Syria through Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Oman through the UAE and into Qatar. I have traveled and lived here on and off since 1993 and I can tell you without a doubt that no one here ever heard of Frank or Hidalgo. I never saw footprint or a likely descendant of a painted Mustang anywhere in this half baked sandpit. In 1890 this land was infested with feuding tribesman that were territorial and unwelcoming. We are talking of a feudal Islamic culturally backward region of the world were you were as likely to get you head handed to you for being from the wrong tribe. I seriously doubt that a local much less foreigners would have been able to race 3000 miles around the Arabian peninsula without being killed a hundred ways from Sunday before Tuesday |
the oppertunist
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 | 01:34 PM
I have watched the disney movie "Hidalgo" as well and I do understand that movies must have a good, yet often over-stated, theme. Given this I still would lik for Frank T Hopkins's full history to be cleared up. As for Vickie Ives I have looked at the link posted by "Becky" I am disgusted that anyone would use a crippled cat in order to have even slight fame.
May those cats' ghosts claw away at Vickie Ives's ghostly stomach when her bones are in the ground |
sapphire
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 | 10:05 AM
That's just her satanist so-called ethics. And she's passed it along to her kids. Victoria Lynn and Tomlyn Grey have both defended her in public and have shown no concern for these poor cats' suffering (or the truth about Frank Hopkins, for that matter). After their father Thomas Speir rediscovered his long-lost morals and backbone and dumped Vickie Frankenstein several years, they all dumped his last name in a hurry because they think the world is persecuting them. Poor kids. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 | 07:51 AM
Funny,
There are as many claims of the truth as there are detractors.
I happen to own a direct decedent of hidalgo. Frank Hopkins had many friends most now dead but their decedents are still living and attest that Hopkins did the feats he claimed. Just because some historian did not write the feats does not mean it did not happen. An example, I have been back and forth to Africa, lived through the mess during the Liberian, Sierra Leone and Guinea wars and yet no one has written about what I went through so 50 years from now no one will believe it happened. However, I went through it and yet there will be detractors that will attest I did not. Fortunately for me, I have photos of a lot of the mess that happened over there but what happens if they get burned or destroyed? Hidalgo is a real horse and Hopkins was a real hero of the Spanish Mustang. By the way, Irish Savage is probably the homosexual and looking for someone to smear. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 | 07:56 AM
Sure you lafter 54. Where is your proof. |
158 glasses of guanabana juice
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 | 11:01 AM
Okay, Stephen, now that you've recovered from your wild Saturday night, can you admit that Frank Hopkins lied about everything? |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 | 11:39 AM
OK, now that you think I had a wild Saturday night, which I did not. Realize this, just because some historian has not written anything about someone does not mean it did not happen. I think you had better check out who and what I am before you defame me. You may wish you had not gone there. I am all over the internet so just check. You are an idiot to think that everything the man claimed did not happen and you are also an idiot for thinking that hidalgo was not a real mustang horse and was also are real long distance champion. I think you maybe one of this culprits trying to discredit in order to "protect" the Arabian blood line. What a crock!!!! |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 | 08:08 PM
Betsy, I have a direct decedent of Hidalgo He is half Arabian 1/4 mustang and 1/4 quarter horse out of King ranch and as well as out of the great Kontiki and lbn Kontiki. So do not tell me about the man you are calling fraud. I spent over 17 years in West Africa, I was in the Kona area of both Sierra Leone and Liberia but guess what, there are no historians that have written about what I personally went through... However, I was shot at and I had to shoot back to save my life and the people with me. So, although I am certain there is hype about Frank T. Hopkins I also think there is truth to his exploits and honestly you people trying to destroy a myth should be ashamed of yourselves. So the hell what, the movie was a movie and all of us know Hollywood always blows things out of proportion. Get a life and let this man have whatever is left of his myth and real life. If you can't then got to hell! |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 | 08:16 PM
So what if the movie created a fantasy? Isn't that what movies are supposed to do? Hopkins was real and he did ride. I have a decedent of Hidalgo that is also a direct decedent of Kontiki the great and IBN Kontiki. So suck on your BS cool aid all you like and try to destroy a legend all you are doing is destroying hope. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 | 08:25 PM
To "Name not important in Tombstone, Arizona:
I have a direct decedent of Hidalgo also. He is half Arabian out of The Great Kontiki and IBN Kontiki on his mares side and out of King Ranch Quarter horse stock and Mustang stock on his Sire's side... "IF" you are for real I would love to compare notes and maybe look into breeding mares to keep the line going. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) |
158 glasses of guanabana juice
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 | 01:10 PM
Well, I'd rather think you had a wild Saturday night than...something else. I mean, you seem a bit unstable. :D
Frank Hopkins was a liar. :D
Frank Hopkins was full of crap. :D
The movie *Hidalgo* is pure nonsense. :D
We will point this out until you're sick and tired of it, and then we will point it out some more. :D
Deal with it. :D |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 | 01:33 PM
Well D,
I think you had better check out who you have accused of being unstable. You are apparently a bitch with on a mission to destroy.
I own a direct decedent of Hidalgo and both Kontiki the great and IBN Kontiki. My horse Reno is a paint, has sired 20 foals all of whom are excellent and frankly I am very very proud of him.
You need to take a deep breath and realize the movie was full of BS however Hopkins as an old man blew his stories out of proportion and yet he had that right as an old man. He did give great support to the Mustang and you will never be able to take that away from him. Suck it up and let it go. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 | 01:42 PM
158 glasses or D which ever you are,
After thinking about your post again, want to go to court? I really think you need to realize who you are accusing and slandering. I do not play when it comes to my horses.
I do not believe all of what has been written about Hopkins nor do I think the movie was totally factual and was mostly fantasy that does not change the fact that Hopkins was a loyal advocate of the Mustang. If you keep posting crap it is going to bite you in the rear end. |
158 glasses of guanabana juice
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 | 04:12 PM
I'm shaking. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 | 06:10 PM
158, You apparently are simply wanting to fight however you do not have the intestinal fortitude to reveal who you are which causes me to think you are simply someone wanting to destroy dreams of people that have more character than you. Tell me who you are, I have told you who I am. Let us throw down or let us find a place to agree to disagree. Either way is fine with me. I know what I have in my Stallion, I have to registration papers to prove what I have. All you have is what you think. I understand you believe what you think and honestly I am totally certain all of the tales of Frank Hopkins are not true but there are some that are including the fact that 2 Hidalgos existed and were long distance champions. I do not want to fight with you but promise you I will if you desire. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 | 04:16 AM
158,
It suddenly came to me last night...You know so much and are so authoritative on Hopkins and Hildalgo that you had to have been there. I sincerely apologize for disrespecting someone that well over 100 years old. If you weren't there then you do not know as no one that was not there cannot know including me. Think about it. Most old men have tales that grew with the telling, so what...Life goes on and tales are told to be enjoyed. However, the horses existed as did Hopkins. |
michael jacksons pants
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 | 05:33 PM
the movie hidalgo sucks and so does frank hopkins fary tale. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 | 07:52 PM
Whatever. I am sick of this nit picking and will not respond to detractors any longer. Anyone can destroy and that is what you guys are doing. Have a nice crappy life. |
john
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 | 08:09 PM
vickie ives daughter tori was born on june 6 1977. the sixth day of the sixth month an 1 plus 9 plus 7 plus 7 equals 24 an 2 plus 4 equals 6 so thats the no. of the devil 666.
tori wuz born by csection.
mnaybe vicki ives had her that way to show how much she hearts satan. shes a satanist. did she want to have her little gurl on the devils day? |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 | 04:53 AM
Well to me it is simple. I do not care what a person believes that is their business. I am simply saying that although I am certain the tails of Frank Hopkins are blown up, Hopkins still was a champion of the Mustang and the papers on my Stallion show Hidalgo (which one I do not know) as the stud from years back. Just so you all know on the mare's side My stud came out of Kontiki the great then IBN Kontiki. All this crap to discredit an old man is absolutely stupid. He is dead and the detractors are simply people that do not have dreams of their own and want to pull down others so to hell with all of them. |
Tim
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 | 08:49 AM
You're crazy. |
158 glasses of guanabana juice
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 | 09:29 AM
Totally out of your mind. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 | 01:23 PM
Let me get this correct. I am out of my mind and yet I have the documentation to prove what I am saying? Who is skirting reality? It is certainly not me. I have breeding records and blood lines to prove what I am saying you have bull shit that proves that you are trying to destroy. I personally do not care if Hopkins did or did not ride I do know that he has people that worked with him and validate his existence you on the other hand have your bull shit to spreed in an effort to destroy an old man. You need a life and honestly, since I could not prove, except for my passport and visas that I was in West Africa during the crap in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guina no one would believe me either their problem is I have the pictures to prove it. Ruin a good story, Ruin a good man and all you have done is become an ass. |
witch hazel
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 | 05:49 PM
You sure do talk a *lot* about your past military service. Do you have a life now?
Frank Hopkins may have existed, but he's still a humongous liar. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 | 03:58 AM
Not certain if you are talking about me and military service. I am an engineer and own and raise horses as a hobby. I personally do not care that the old man Frank Hopkins blew his story into the biggest lie in the world. He did however champion the mustang. There is another web site under construction that set up by members of the family that Hopkins worked with. Again, so what he embellished or even went so far as to create a fairy tale life story the fact that he loved the horse is what is most important. |
Just Watching
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 | 01:17 PM
While this latest collection of exchanges has been entertaining to read, I am reminded of a saying I once read that goes:
"Arguing on the Internet is like racing in the Special Olympics. You may win, but you are still retarded".
Yeah, I know. Very politically incorrect. But it sure applies with Stephen Shehane, 158 Glasses, D and several others that have weighed in. Please continue for entertainment's sake. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 | 01:35 PM
To Just watching,
You are probably very very correct. I simply get very involved with my horses and anyone that tries to discredit any of the breeds. Probably not smart but at least it does show my heart for my horses and the horses of others. Hope you enjoyed the show. I would love to invite you to visit my ranch and see why I am so passionate about my babies.
Stephen |
Henry Potter
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 | 04:40 PM
Nobody said anything about your horse breeding, just the lies of Frank Hopkins. But, since everybody else has stated their case and you're clearly a fool, you're welcome to argue with yourself. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 | 07:44 PM
Well since I am clearly a fool why would you respond unless you are still trying to destroy someone. You are an ass and you have just proven it. I am no fool and you had better check out who I am and the fact that you have both slandered me and libeled me in writing. You can read about me on line There has to be at least 500 references of me on line and trust me you do not want to contend with me. You are the idiot for running your mouth via the internet. Hopkins may have been a story teller however he did support the Mustang and therefore I am a very prodigious supporter of his. You on the other hand are nothing but someone trying to destroy. Have at your destructive behavior. I on the other hand choose to support the horses. You will wind up wallowing in your destructive behavior. |
Frederic
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Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 | 10:47 PM
FWIW, even if the movie is bogus, it was still good.
Mr. Shehane,
Are you associated with Oretech? I just read an article about it and an H. Stephen Shehane committing $750,000 towards the first commercial processing system. Very impressive.
My wife and I have owned/own Paints and Quarter Horses...We currently have a 2-year old Bay Roan mare by Dress Western, a Black weanling stud colt by These Irons Are Hot and recently sold a 4-year old Dark Brown gelding by Artful Investment.
I don't dispute your story at all, but I am confused (forgive the ignorance here; my knowledge is limited to Paints and Quarter Horses)... IBN Kontiki is/was (is he still alive?) a purebred Arabian racetrack winner, '82, '83 and '84...do Arabian folks breed to non-Arabs? I love all breeds, but I just can't imagine Ibn Kontiki's owners breeding to a mare that is 1/2 Mustang and 1/2 Quarter Horse; in the Paint and Quarter world, that's sacrilege, if the horse is a champion.
Again, forgive the ignorance; I'm just trying to be better educated.
BTW, when I lived in Maryland, a gal we boarded our horses with had an Arab that was 40 years old...ate from a bucket that she would set on a plastic lawn chair...blew my mind...I didn't know horses could get that old. |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 | 03:49 AM
Fredric,
Reno's is what is called a Quarab you can find this on the internet. The Hildago in his Quarter horse blood is I believe 17 generations back (could be wrong about the number of generations. Kontiki the Great is dead but unless he expired recently IBN Kontiki is still alive as is IBN Tootsie (Reno's mare).
Reno's Quarter Horse/Paint Blood is King's Ranch/Wiescamp bloodlines. His stud still stands today for stud, the link to see Rev's Super Star is: http://www.gibbranch.com/RevsSuper.html
We talked to the lady that owns him just last week she is a very kind lady and should you want to use Super Star as stud I am certain she would love to accommodate you. Super Star is a beautiful horse.
The reason for the Quarter Horse/Arabian cross was to produce a bloodline with great endurance as well as quickness. Check out the following links: http://www.horseplay.nl/GB/quarabs.htm as well as http://www.quarabs.org/home.html.
Yes I was associated with Oretech, What fiasco it was due to the man I "allowed" to quit the company. Should have fired him but I try to live by "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". If you want to talk further about the horses you can contact me via email .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address). |
Stephen Shehane
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 | 04:00 AM
Fredric,
First I do not and cannot commit to the total factuality of Frank T. Hopkins nor can I with certainty say that one of the 2 horses he had named Hidalgo is the Hidalgo in my Reno's blood line.
I just cannot stand people that try to discredit and destroy especially when the old man is dead and gone and there are still people out there that attest that he did support and stand up for a breed of horse when others wanted to destroy the breed.
So, yes I got on this soapbox not so much to credit Frank T. Hopkins but to stand up for what I read as the old man's honest efforts to support the horse.
Like me, Love me or hate me, that was and is my efforts in a nutshell. Look forward to hearing from you. |
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