The Museum of Hoaxes
DNA Perfection ??
Posted By:
Archana Padhye
Jun 28, 2004
 A site by Toby Alexander :
http://www.dnaperfection.com

claims about something like remote DNA Activation!! I searched web about the authenticity about the said things but could find nothing!

Can anybody throw light upon ?

Thanks.
Category: Scams; Replies: 394

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The Curator
in San Diego
 Member
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 | 10:40 PM
It's official from Toby Alexander: "This website vibrates at such a low frequency that it will bring anyone who visits here down."

If I ever create an advertising campaign for this site, that's going to be the slogan.
Myst
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 | 02:29 AM
Funny, I always experience a feeling of "fun" when I visit here.
Lothar Ignatius
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 | 11:36 AM
I still can't beleive that most of these emails are anything but a stealth marketing technique perpetrated by Toby himself. I'm just curious as to why he chose this "low-frequency" website to hit up. Aren't there hundreds of websites and forums run by gullible shills? Why would he try and spin his yarns on something that seems mainly devoted to skepticism when it comes to outrageous claims?

Dear Toby. Please go get a real job.

In unrelated new, I will be putting more haunted Gmail accounts up on eBay next week if anyone is interested.
seitan
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 | 04:32 AM
Toby you old devil up to old tricks again
didn't know whether to get my violin out your story is quite hilarious oops just threw up on my cape must be the low vibration of your soppy sad story

Naughty little boys and girls never go and play with the devil
Jelly bean
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 | 07:28 AM
Toby alexander you are using mind control to manipulate people.
Then you use psychogogy to get yourself out of the situation. The phantom earth story is BS you are the biggest PHANTOM MENACE.
You manipulate and control peole with psychology and made yourself a self appointed apostle .
Get a life do what you do best gambling and trading
regards miami
Elbert Spoon
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 10:51 AM
Wow... This is awsome... I activated my DNA and now I can fly! It feels good. There are so many things I can do now, like touch my toes with straight legs, and eat peas with one chop stick... I strongly suggest humanity unite and elevate to a new revelutionary level! DNA Perfection is truly the next stage of elitism for mankind. Elbert.
Zendaria Jones
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 02:28 PM
This has been a very interesting read about DNA activation. I feel I need to add my 2 cents worth:

DNA activation is very real. However, no one can do it for you - you have to do it yourself in your own time and your own way. I know this because I have been going through it for over a year now. There are physical symptoms, mental symptoms, emotional symptoms, spiritual symptoms; all unique and special to you and who you are.

There are also a lot of legimate sites addressing this issue, with some very enlightening information. If one is truly interested in this, just do a search and see what comes up. I have my favorite sites, and I'm sure you'll find yours.

Thanks for listening, just had to comment after reading all that nonsense from T. Alexander.

Z
Stephen
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 | 10:48 AM
This is probably accurate in theory, but the body would not be balanced. Some people do have "Super Human" abilities but it is limited and these people allways have some kind of complication. People that have extraordinary vision tend to not hear very well, and vice versa. A very rare population of people that naturally look like body builders but never worked out a day in their life end up having severe orthopaedic problems down the road, the same with very Tall people too....You can see my point. Some that are "Telepathic" and read minds have severe social issues and genuine psychics are usually crazy in the head as well.
Archana Padhye
Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 | 03:39 AM
Hello All,
I had no idea about the responce when I put up the question!!
But after filtering such a long discussion the information received is still inadequate!!
being an Indian, I know about chakra awakening and kundalini jaagruti, etc. And as per the practices, everybody is unique and takes his/her own time to reach the higher planes.
When I first read abt DNA Activation my curiocity rose and I tried to get more info on net. But alas!! None of teh sites talk abt the things in detail!!! What they bombard - lots of heavy words and actually what is done under the name "DNA Activation" is yet unrevealed!!

Mr. Tony says that this site is working at "lower frequencies". This is surely an insult to the one who is seeking pure knowledge. As spirituality is something to be experienced, there are so many fake practitioners as well. So anybody who is interested and is sane, has to be cautious before believing someone claiming high things! And an authentic person should admit this fact and let fulfill the queries of the interesting person!!

But this has not been admitted by Mr. Toby and so what is done as "DNA Activation" is yet a questionmark for me!!

Anyway, thanks to everybody who participated and shared their views.

-Archana Padhye
Bee
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 | 01:19 PM
hey toby

im reading your site in dribs and drabs..... rather than teach people to overcome for themselves all obsticles they lay in their own path..... you place yourself as the answer.... you are not an enlightened soul,because rather than share your wisdom freely ...you possess it ,your aims are very materialistic ... you prey on those who live in fear ....for your wisdom comes with a price....
you say we are gods for we are one...... is it a selective institution that comes with a price tag?

i love what you have to say.... but my path sadly splits from yours because yours is shallow
vincent luotto
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 | 01:30 PM
Guys i was thinking to have the full activation , thanks for sharing your experiences and debuking the site.
bee
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 | 05:08 PM
its official to everyone who visits this site..this site is for people with free will... there is nothing you cannot achieve if you set your mind to it.... firstly learn to accept yourself as an individual ...u have two sides ,like day has night ,everything in life needs balance ....so learn to love even your imperfections perfectly and you will become whole ..... be possitive in everything you do.... learn to simplify life rather than create hurdles.. and the hurdles that life puts in your way..jump them knowing that the joy of life IS THE JOURNEY ..learning and growing.. you will soon realise life is rosey without the aid tinted glasses ,your glass will be half full rather than half empty....
Change the way you view life and you will see your life change .... you will let go of what has past and embrace what is to come.... DONT YOU THINK ITS TIME FOR A SPRING CLEAN?
Wisdom is freely given and those who charge are not wise ....
Toby this is site for those with free will that look for guidence and seek the truth, you cannot pull the veil over their eyes ,even though sadly some have been burnt at the hands of you .... Oh and this websites vibrations are quite high arnt they toby!!!!!!! because if they were not , how come your here????
And if you were so enlightened as you think you are WHY THE EGO??? the need to justify and defend what you do!! So toby what you FEAR is your very own transparency :o) have a nice day :o)
Myst
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 | 05:30 PM
bee, I agree with everything you just said, I would add only one thing. Not only do you need to accept yourself as you are, you need to accept others as they are. When you quit worrying about other people's lives or how they live it you find yourself a lot less stressed. Just my 2 cents worth.
Mark-n-Jen
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 | 05:42 PM
Pocket change ($400) times a countless number of suckers amounts to a pretty hefty scheme / scam and would therefore be quite worthy of doing "All this research." Which I suspect amounts to a bunch of pot-smoking w/ all your hippie buddies when you should be out working, supporting your butt, and actually contributing to society. However, if you can manage to SCAM these people out of their money and make a living like that, then more power to you I suppose, but at least pay your fair share of taxes. I did get something from this however... a good hearty laugh.

PS - The claim was made that even Geneticists were coming to you for this. If so, do one (geneticist) for free in return for endorsement. If you can provide endorsement from even 1 REPUTABLE scientist/geneticist I'll pay you the $400 for nothing! By reputable I mean an employed, educated, REPUTABLE geneticist... not one who's degree comes from the Winston, Arizona on-line university. Who knows... I may be wrong I'm just a lowly biologist. (Ball State University) I would definately be willing to listen to an accredited colleague... I still think good-ole Toby is just making a scam-living $400 at a time though... 😊 Still chuckling here...
Mark-n-Jen
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 | 05:51 PM
PS - It's OK James... you got scammed. Live w/ it and go on... how do you know how much research he's done on this and how much are you worth that $400 is pocket change to you? If there are just 1,000 James' out there then good-ole Toby's made an average living already this year... just by smokin' dope! 😊 😉
Bee
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 | 06:31 PM
Toby do you hear that noise??? No???? ok wait a minute why i raise your vibrations to ours.... :o) ok there you go!!! HOW MUCH?? Toby just pay it forward!!!
Pay it forward toby ....spend a few dollars watch the dvd and get wonderful inspirations from a kid ! speaking of my last posting... do you know who are some of the greatest teachers in the world today toby? i do !! INDIGO ring a bell?? personally i learn something new everyday from my children
Mitch K
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 | 07:28 PM
I'm glad to see this forum to be still active, or "activated", even though for a couple of past weeks it was not seen by Google directly, because of the changes to this site.

Well, as Mark-n-Jen pointed out, I have wondered, too, who those scientists, doctors, geneticists may be? Some of them must have written scientific papers on the subject, and even made them available over the Internet, right?

And, regarding Toby Alexander's statement about the low vibration of this site, it is even more amusing after learning from a new chapter on his website: "Indigo Children", what he has in mind: "I also plan on raising the frequency of my site to where it will almost be be impossible for the people who are not ready for this work to even land on it."
That's really off to post something like that and the same time use a Google's sponsored link.
~ 😊
Mark-n-Jen
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 02:07 PM
Almost as disturbing as Mr. Toby and his scam is the fact that these IGNORANT people was us all to "back them" in their attempts at getting their money refunded. What were you thinking when you actually paid this guy money? Did you ever actually go to a real school or were you "home-schooled" by the local CULT?! Not that there's anything wrong w/ home-schooling or that it's not up to standards... it's just when someone falls for a scam like this it makes me wonder who was responsible for "educating" that person! COME ON FOLKS... if it sounds too good to be true then it most likely is... you get nothing for free. As for post's made earlier in which the sucker was moaning about her child's school uniform and winter clothes money... WHAT KIND OF PARENT ARE YOU THAT YOU, AND NO ONE ELSE, spent money needed by your child on something for YOURSELF. Just because you got scammed doesn't change the fact that you are a poor excuse for a parent / role model for your child! THINK LADY... scam or not you spent the money on something for yourself instead of where it should have been... for your child! As for the gal who's still addicted to food... honey, none of us like it but it's a fact... only a sensible diet and EXERCISE are going to allow you to lose weight and keep if off... there's NO miracle cure that's going to allow you to lose weight while remaining an over-eating couch potato... ask my wife, it took her 10 years to teach me that! 😊
Mitch K
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 10:13 PM
"Another interesting feature of hoaxes is that they're forms of deception which victims are often blamed for believing. In other words, in most cases of lying we condemn the liar and no one else. For instance, say you call your employer and tell him or her a lie to get out of work. If you later get caught, it's unlikely anyone is going to blame your employer for having believed you. The fault will fall on your head alone. But with hoaxes we do blame the person who believed the lie. In many cases we even celebrate the hoaxer while condemning the victim. This is because hoaxes, in a sense, are a form of social control. They're one method that society uses to punish instances of what it perceives to be false or mistaken belief. We laugh at the idiots who believe stupid things, thereby creating strong social pressure to dissuade others from being similarly foolish."

The above is an excerpt from an article found at the following URL: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/what.html
~ :coolsmile:
Myst
Member
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 10:58 PM
Well Mitch even the best of us fall for some silly things, ask Scott McNealy, CEO of Sun Microsystems.

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/1954computer/
Mitch K
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 11:22 PM
Thanks for the link Myst. I took a look at it, looks very interesting. Will read more tomorrow 'cause it's time to retire my computer, and myself as well.
~
Bee
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 | 04:59 AM
where does trust come into things? we want to believe in something or someone... when someone says they care ,we believe what they say until we get burnt... the problem is do you then judge the rest of the world on that bad experience?? do you decide to never trust again??? no and thats what makes us human... it is one to be wise and cautious,but we only learn from bad experiences ... people who laugh at idiots as you put it were probably idiots once themselves and if not will be in the future....
this site is for people to share there stories or views..they dont come here to be judged by others.... there is nothing wrong in being naive in this world and those who pass judgement should look closer to home before belittling others.... i myself thought toby's site interesting,but it is my opinion that enlightenment of the soul should be knowledge that is freely shared... i dont believe there is any short cuts and i think that toby interfering with other people's karma wrong... it is one thing to inform people and help guide them,but another to say they can erase past or present mistakes with an eraser to obtain a short cut ..i dont think its even a loop hole the the great plan of life..i just think it bull shite. Practice makes perfect ...so if that means making the same mistakes until we break the cycle then so be it... until we understand our errors ..only then do we learn and grow... some of us may learn alot faster...the point is we get there eventually.....
you can lead a horse to water ,but you cant make it drink... We can only advise and guide ,the decision is up to each individual

mark n jen you cant live everyone elses life for them,just concentrate on your own and rather than slag off others.. try giving them some helpful advise.. .. stop casting stones like you have authority
travolta_1972
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 06:43 AM
I am taking time to post this because I think most of you (especially this Mitch character and Sohera) need to take a second and look at how much time they are wasting. If you spent a fraction of your time and energy trying to improve your live's you wouldn't be out here trying to ruin the reputation of Toby Alexander. I have PERSONALLY known Toby for almost a decade. He and I worked together and were the best of friends. I introduced him to his wife. Whether or not you believe what he is trying to do is irrevelant. He isn't out there raping people, causing harm to people or causing ills to society. He is trying his best to help complete strangers with their problems. Whether or not he succeeds is not the point. I don't see the backlash against the tens of millions of priests in churches across the globe!! Where is the proof of what they are preaching? They are helping people in their own way just like Toby is. If you don't get any internal peace out of a session with him move on to another medium. At least you are taking the time to try to improve yourself. Stop bitching about your problems and do something to help others.
bee
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 07:49 AM
Mr Travolta......
Does toby feel the need for you to defend him.... ive written a few post on here and im not out to personally slay him for what he does...because hes partly on the right path... i work all hours god sends to make a living to support my children.. but when it comes to helping others.. i have been freely giving my time all my life ...and in life there is no quick fixes or short cuts and thats what makes life so fresh and exciting ..the good and the bad are to be embraced and loved,when we embrace all we are whole and life smiles on us..... and karma is our path to enlightemment and the joy of life is walking the path with others and sharing our stories ,that we all get something far richer from our encounters.. then we then share with many others... multi level enlightenment..... the time is now to spread the light of life... and charging for knowledge makes us ignorant... toby may have paid for his in the past... but how does he grow from there ... its like having a loaded gun ,but not knowing how to use it.... the gun will eventually back fire on him
bee
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 07:56 AM
Blessed be the love and light of all ,shine and share .... the teacher and the student ..the student and the teacher ,freely share the knowledge of the universe, contained within the soul

xxx
travolta_1972
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 10:24 AM
Actually I haven't spoken to Toby in over a year. I do follow his new career though and just happened to have another friend forward me this site where people vent their frustrations. I agree that one makes their own happiness and nothing comes easy/free in this world. I think Toby has been introduced to others who have made it their life mission to attempt to help others. I'm sure many think this is similar to Amway or other scams but I have known this guy for years and he is very sharp. He is not a doctor but I do believe he has devoted 110% of his time and energy to help others. Before he ever got into this new business he was universally known to friends and family (and strangers) as doing whatever he could to help folks out. He was always very deep and would sit for hours helping talk through "issues" that others had. I think this is his way of trying to help others. If it works for some that is great. If it doesn't work for others that sucks. I have zero vested interest in any of you or him. I just thought it was silly that people get so wrapped up in what he does and no one makes any fuss over priests, psychologists and other folks who attempt to help you out for a fee. good luck to you all. If I had a problem I would call Toby but I wouldn't necessarily ask him for any of these services. I'd simply ask my friend for advise.
Nick
in Merrie Olde Englande
 Member
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 11:22 AM
this all looks a bit heavy. can anybody give me a nutshell of whats going on?
ChessCleopadre
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 11:38 AM
travolte , who assure us that you aren't toby himself ?
Mitch K
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 09:59 PM
Travolta_1972,
If you really do follow your friend's new career, you should have noticed that this forum has actually helped Toby Alexander to refine his calling, as he's stated the following:

"I have realized recently that the real purpose of my practice is to focus on helping a specific group of people, called Indigo children, awaken to realizing their own true reasons for incarnating here and then quickly removing their blockages by doing these sessions."

Well then, do you still believe Travolta_1972 that my time and others has been really wasted?
~ 😊
swp
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 | 02:11 PM
The truth is here
Mark-N-Jen
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 | 06:10 PM
Dear Bee & Mitch,
BOO-HOO... your money is gone because YOU were foolish with it. NO ONE made you give it to him... you chose to do so. I can laugh all I want at it... because it's funny! 😊 I never blamed anyone for falling for it... as some people are more susceptable to such scams than others. What got me riled, and ranting, was the fact that the poor little woman wants us all to join the bandwagon of helping her get a refund because her CHILD needed the money for winter clothes, school uniform, etc, etc. ANY PARENT who spends NEEDED funds on ANYTHING as unproven and uncertain as this deserves what they get... that was an IDIOTIC move made by a BAD parent! FACT. Sorry if that doesn't go very far towards contributing to the overall "touchy touchy feel-good" status of the globe! But someone needs to tell that mother to get some COMMON sense and do what's right by her child FIRST and then explore experimental options for herself! You're contributing to that poor childs' crappy childhood by telling her it wasn't her fault and it's all O.K. You should be ashamed as much as she should be... who's going to feed that poor child when this woman spends their grocery money to buy X-ray vision or something? YOU? I doubt it, which is exactly why you shouldn't sugar-coat it for anyone... I suspect you probably contributed a little money to the Toby Alexander salary fund as well... At least learn a life lesson here Sohera, Mitch, James, and all others... Yeah maybe I was a little harsh in my laughter... I'm still chuckling over this... but you derserve to be chuckled at... Can you seriously tell me that you haven't laughed your butt off at some of the scams other people have fallen for... ALEX? There's tons of humor to this site... but making your child go without, especially in winter, so you can EXPLORE an EXPERIMENTAL THEORY is darn near neglect and needs to be said. There's enough other scam victims already patting her on the back and telling her it's not her, or their's or whoever's, fault... so I thought I'd be the voice of reason / common sense / scientific education here and tell her to WAKE-UP before her CHILD suffers irreversibly! So there... PS - Still smiling over this... can't believe he ever made a DIME!
Bee
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 | 12:44 AM
MARK & JEN
For your information,ive never parted with any money to toby as i dont need what he has to offer,i simply am against him charging people for what he does,whether it works or not.... its does not make that woman a BASD MOTHER as you put it... get things into context... she made a mistake.. maybe she put such info down to try and make toby feel guilty... put him on a guilt trip ..who can say... but and i mean but.... it certainly isnt your place to verbally abuse her .. your no better.. oh cynical one.... where's your compassion???? everyone in life is prone to make mistakes..thats how we learn... rest assured she's more than learnt her lesson..she learnt the hard way..and she does not need you throwing it in her face .... next time you make one..i hope someone is there to rub your face in it...
if i remember correctly..it was toby that said the vibration here must be low, well with the likes of you .... he must be partly correct....
mark & jen ...jen & mark ... who ever the mind thats behind the words you write GET A LIFE !!!
Winona
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 | 09:14 AM
And a guilt trip is a good idea on how to get something from someone. Jeez! That is one of my pet peeves, people who fail to admit the mistakes they made, and also then try to force people (guilt trips etc) into making it better FOR them.

I'm glad they posted that. I was thinking the same thing. I'm a parent too, and I will damn well make sure that my child had what he needs before I go blow my money on something that is not a necessity. (And DNA Perfection ain't sweetie. Not when you have a child to make sure is fully fed, clothed etc.)

This is so stupid, grow up and take responsibility (those who got hosed). Admit you wasted your money and move on. If I paid my money to someone who said they could help me see Snuffleupagus, and I didn't, I wouldn't ask for my money back... because *I* would be stupid to do it in the first place.
Lenny Teytelman
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 | 07:29 PM
A friend of my just e-mailed me a link to the dnaperfection web-site. I read it and laughed, forwarded it to my co-workers. I found it hysterical until I realized that it isn't a joke and that Mr. Alexander is actually profitting from this.

I am a graduate student in molecular biology, and I have devoted several years to studying DNA, the "junk DNA", and the regulation of genes. I have actually isolated DNA from cells, analyzed it, sequenced it, changed it, etc. While there is much that is still not known about the cellular mechanisms, I know enough to see how much random nonsense Mr. Alexander has written on his web-site.

Since I am busy with classes, teaching, and research, I cannot devote hours of my time to debunking all of the material on that site. I will just give a very simple example of why the information is really mis-information. Mr. Alexander writes, "Scientists acknowledge that we currently only use 3% of our current 2 strand DNA..."

What exactly does this mean? What is junk? What does it mean to use only a fraction of the DNA?

There are portions of our DNA that encode proteins, and these regions are called genes. It is true that genes are only a small percentage of our total DNA content. The rest of the DNA does not make proteins, and unfortunately, up to a few years ago, some scientists called it "junk." That is a really bad term, and we now know that much of the DNA that is outside of the genes is not junk at all and is actually crucial for our survival. If you think about cellular activity, it isn't enough to just make proteins. You need to regulate how much of each protein should be made and when. For your skin cells to be different from the the eye cell, different proteins must be present in different amounts. The DNA outside of the genes is key in regulating this and controlling what is made and where.

Just because scientists have not yet figured out what every position in a human DNA does, it does not mean that the position is "deactivated." Simply because we do not know what a given protein does, we cannot assume that the protein does nothing. As of now, it is accepted that many of the regions outside of genes are critical for cellular function and life. They are not junk, and they are not inactive. Therefore, it makes no sense to claim that someone can turn these regions on for you. What does it mean to turn them on? They are already on in the sense that they regulate which genes function and in which cells.

My sincere advice would be to save your money. Instead of wasting hundreds of dollars on this charlatan, spend $20 to get a used biology textbook and learn about DNA and why it is truly fascinating. An alternative suggestion - get a pair of hiking boots and go for a good hike. Either one will prove to be more stimulating, enlightening, and rejuvenating that anything Mr. Alexander can offer.
john kirckpatrick
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 05:19 AM
I think that is time to promote an international organism for regulating internet pubblication activity, sites like dna perfection and other should bu submitted to an expert group and , the informations presented should be verified with objective results. A lawyer could prevent the pubblication of the site and a strong and legal policy of refund granted.
There are far too many sites that are really scams on they often don't give refunds.
last year a site about a growing taller pill was close by the royal investigation society in england i think that is time now to shut them all.
Anyway i think that some jail could sto people thinking about scamming 10-15 years is enough for Toby
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
 Member
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 10:17 AM
If Government is in charge of the internet...wouldn't that be the biggest hoax of all??
Silentz
in general
 Member
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 01:34 PM
Something for you bashers to think about. Whether you believe that DNA activation works or not is irrelevant. I'll explain.
I practice Reiki(also something that you may or may not believe works). My father is one of those that does not believe in spiritual or "supernatural" phenomenon. He was out to visit me several years ago. He has trouble with indigestion at times that makes him very uncomfortable. I offered to do Reiki for him, and he figured it couldn't hurt, so allowed it. He got a funny look on his face and said "Huh, it feels like things are moving around down there." Later he asked me whether I thought it was Reiki that helped his indigestion or it was his mind making his body do something with me just there.

The point I made was this. Who cares? If something works for someone, who cares why or how it works for them? Some people's lives are improved by "DNA activation". If it took $100 or whatever for them to feel like they got something in return, who are any of us to judge? You are free to have opinions about whatever you encounter, but just because you don't believe something doesn't make it fake OR real.

I wouldn't pay money for DNA activation because I don't believe it would do anything, but I won't judge anyone that does. If it improves anyone's life then it is of value, at least to that person. And that should be enough.
Mark-N-Jen
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 01:51 PM
Dear Bee, I beg to differ but YES I am better, VERY much better, always have been and always will be because as I stated before... As a parent, who like one always should, I put my chldren and their needs FIRST! As for learning lessons... why don't you learn to spell learned. (Hint: Learnt isn't correct, maybe you'll find the correct answer in my response to you... but I doubt it) If she didn't want me "throwing it in her face" that she's a POOR parent then she should do her whining on a private and not public forum. Free speech baby... I can rant all I want. Someone needs to rant at her a little before her next scam costs her child it's food, as I stated before. Are you a parent Bee, because I do have things in context. Spending money needed by your child on an unproven "theory" DOES INDEED make you a POOR PARENT and bad example. It's just like spending your families grocery money on lottery tickets, foolish and unwise to the point that it's neglectful to those depending on you. Especially if they're children! Be an adult, do what's right first when it comes to children. It's not like he offered to sell her a car that ended up being a lemon! (acceptable and common mistake) She was trying to enhance her DNA for christ's sake! Nevermind the countless years of science before us... let's spend money needed by our family on STUPID SHIT! Lastly, I'm not trying to live anyone's life for them... if I were I'd take that child from her and raise it right. This is a public forum... do you understand those words or the concept that accompanies them? I doubt it... I have a life babe... and in it I don't throw away my children's money on shit like X-ray vision, DNA enhancement, or flying carpets. :(

PS - Thank you Winona for being a voice of reason among the many STRANGE posts I've seen on this thread! 😉
Projectmayhem
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 06:21 PM
After perusing the site in question, it has become apparent that Toby Alexander has less than no clue about biology, chemistry, or histroy. I recommend those willing to give Mr. Alexander your hard-earned $400 donate it to charity, or blow it on a weekend to a casino. Really, you'll get more enjoyment out of it. As a student of Biochemistry, I can tell you with absolute certainty that there is a 5 DNA base, it's called Inosine, and it's used interchangably with a couple of the others. As for the 12 stranded DNA, the replication of that would take in excess of several months, and the amount of bases required for proper replication (think sperm, millions upon millions per day) would consume an ungodly amount of energy. Basically mastubation would make you pass out. Those looking to reach enlightenment should pick up Buddhism, or if you've got more than $400, give Scientology a whirl. I hear they'll let you fly in private with no one else around for about $500,000. Pseudo-science is not a religion, it's a cult.
swp
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 03:28 PM
Silentz, Reiki is not " something that you may or may not believe works". Reiki is bullshit. It doesn't work. That isn't a "belief" it is a proven fact.

You are self-deluded.

Harm can come from believing things that are not true. So, sure the placebo effect worked here and made some people feel better, but there was a greater cost.
swp
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 03:33 PM
Silentz,

Just remember "just because you don't believe something doesn't make it fake OR real" - I agree 100%

Just remember that if you DO believe in something it doesn't make it real or fake either.

e..g Reiki - you may believe it works... but it has been tested and proven not to. Doesn't matter what anecdotal evidence you have to the contrary, ancedotal evidence is worthless and proves nothing. Real scientific evidence can show you the truth.
Matt
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 | 12:13 PM
A fool and his money are soon parted.


If your so easily misled then probably deserve to be scammed out of your money.
Brownangel
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 | 01:40 PM
Well I have read this entire post with great interest and I am very grateful for the insight that I have gained from those who have tried T.Alexander's DNA perfection and from the various scientists who have contributed. I am an attorney at law with not much of a background in science. I have however been on a search for spiritual enlightenment for several years. In my research which I believe to be intuitively led I came upon Toby's site. I was intrigued and using his words the text on his site resonated deeply within me. However I knew for a fact that had I read that information a few years earlier I would have dismissed it as unquestioned rubbish. Now I looked at it and I was drawn to it. I contacted Toby and he responded quickly to me. I did have great doubt on the intellectual level and this caused me to do some more research. I was also convinced that if anyone of us wishes to actualize and become all that we are meant to be we could do it on our own simply by looking within and finding the truth. The long and the short of this is that I did my research I started doing the Maharic seal meditation and certain specific meditations to clear blockages in my energy field and I can categorically report that my life has changed drastically for the better in the particular areas that I was focused on and I know that I can apply the techniques to virtually every area of my life. That being said, I wish to say this. Whether or not it is in actuality "DNA Activation" or some energy/meditation techniques to remove blockages - the theory works. And I didnt have to pay Toby to do it for me... though I do not discount that in clearing our blockages that it is always useful to have a guide to assist us. Toby may very well be that. Finally, I have seen alot of judgement and name calling and insults being submitted on this site and that is sad. We are all different but at an atomic level we are all the same sharing the same divine energy to exist. Toby I thank you for expending your energy in creating your site which furthered and enhanced my understanding of myself, even if I do not wholly accept everything that you have written there. Mitch and Sohera, I thank you for being committed to your spiritual growth and development for this contributes to the greatest good of us all. I thank you Bee for the wisdom to teach us that all challenges and what we perceive to be mistakes are really only opportunities for growth. Mark and Jen I thank you for your love for Sohera's child and your compassion and your drive to protect all our children.
During one of my meditations God gave me these words and I share them with you all now
"We all are expressions of God, perfect in that aspect of God that we exhibit, we engage this journey and fulfill our destinies when we come to see this TRUTH not only in ourselves but in all others" Copyright (c) 2005 Margaret Rose
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 | 03:43 PM
When I took Kung Fu, we studied Tai Chi. Lots of meditating. All it does is let you focus, and with practice your senses become tuned because you are more aware of them. It also depends on what you are focusing on, for example, when a Christian prays to God, it is a form of meditation, and it helps them clear their head. Religions that require meditation such as Buddisim, (I'm not a good speller) it is used to clear everything in their mind and focus on "Life" itself. Any way, I don't want to think this deep anymore, I'm getting hungry. Im meditating on a big, juicy steak!!!!! PRO ANNA!!
Anastasia
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 | 06:16 PM
Hello to all. I already had my aura cleaning and the rest is coming soon. My experiance has been only positive. If you are already on the road of selfrealization and find yourself searching for help, even though you know God leads you as it is and you shouldn't be looking for anyones help, this can be something to consider.

This process helps you help youself in ways you can't even imagine. You can call that a scam already, but if anybody said they can MAKE me into the being I'm supose to be weather I cooperate or not, that already goes against what I want on deeper levels. This procees so far has released issues and doubts I had from the past and present and allowed me to realize where I perceived something wrong or negatively, which held me from becoming fully as I was meant to be. If your intent is to get better, this is what you will do when your thought concepts will start spontaneuosly poping into your head and you will be able to see how such thinking held you back.

I had issues with weather or not it's right to change the DNA which God Himself gave me for a reason, but my search lead me to the other side of that thinking.

I realized that when I myself felt that I was on the right path of selfrealization, when I felt that I could see through all the negative that a situation proposed and see the positive, what God wanted me to see and what He revealed to me, when I felt myself changing with every moment, I also felt that my future was changing along with me and my phisical as well.

When you change, everything changes. If somebody can promise to change you DNA template to perfection or to show you how to manifest things you desire into your reality (like remote viewing courses) what they mean is that they will help you become who you were meant to be spiritualy and all else will follow. Otherwise it could not be, it would not work, this is a law, you cannot outsmart God Himself with any remote viewing clearing or reacticvating technique.

And yes, like someone here posted, with Toby Alexanders DNA perfection there are pre-session instructions which include the steps of mastery which ask you to change the way you think about life (that poster actualy posted links, check them out)It's funny how that poster liked the idea of having his DNA perfected in order to change his reality of life to what he desired, but he didn't like the idea of chaging his attitute towards life itself. If you're not ready to do this or atleast try, this isn't for you because no matter how many things one with "phycic abilities" removes, you would go back to the way you thought before the sessions and everything in your life would start changing back to the way they were. This would make the sessions bull and THEN you shuold ask for your money back.

(Continuation to follow, it's only so many characters per post)
Anastasia
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 | 06:18 PM
(and here's the rest;-)

I wasn't shure about the seal exercise, (he put a link to that too), becasue I didn't think I hade the right to do something like that. I got over it by "asking for permission" instead of just doing it as our right. As I practiced, what it did was amauzing. Not right away, but it was.

I also searched for remote viewing courses, as the DNA activation is done via this technique. I found a free course you can take online. At first I wasn't sure if I wanted to have any part becasue they talked about how you will be able to manifest material things like money into your life with this technique. This didn't sound very spiritual, but I thought that maybe this was thrown in there to attrackt people to the program becasue with it they will find greater purpose. I remembered that when I had this ability to see from a distance, I was very spiritualy oriantated, and if I ever had doubt or tried to change something that wasn't meant to be changed, this ability would just go away. So I went for it, and I have to say it wasn't what I expected at first. It seemed a bit plain and mostly what I already knew. The meditation audio was great though, very positive meditation! When I actualy finished the course, the last chapter, it made me want to go back and read everything again more carefully. This realy was a technique to make people realize! I'm curiouse to see if everybody had that experiance, I'm gonna search that next. (Searching for other's opinions is how I found this discussion on DNA Activation.) If you're interested but don't want to spend money yet, here's the link:

http://www.silvaultramindsystem.com/products/unlimited/

I hope this helps on you search for higher truth.

All the best,

Anstasia

P.S. I chose the option to have replies emailed to me, so if you have any questions on how the DNA Perfection is going/went depending on when you're reding this, I will reply.
Mark-N-Isa
in Midwest USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 | 04:32 PM
DORK. For $1,000 I'll sell you a flying carpet too, then you'll be really cool. Let me know where to send it and when your check clears I'll get it right out to you. 😊
Mark-N-Isa
in Midwest USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 | 04:36 PM
For $1,500 I'll sell you the deluxe model... (it has the little tassles and fringes on it) Please keep in mind that only those with Perfected DNA can control these flying carpets as it's done telepathically. For those who purchase the deluxe model, and only for a short period, we're giving away X-ray vision... FREE OF CHARGE. ($5,000 value, see Natasha) Cheers...
john occipiculina
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 | 04:21 AM
I think that's enough, this topic is flled with sarcasm, there is no need of another would-be sarcastic - smart - funny post, anastacia surely is the same toby trying to rasie his level, i think dna activation site will be shut very soon,
if is there a moderator, i think that this topic could be shut down.
Bee
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 | 04:38 AM
John .....were all here blowing off some steam for one reason or another..."sticks and stones" whose right and whose wrong? nobody because what we all have to say is equally important .... and yes some sarcastic humour makes lite of people and life... so john laugh at someone ....laugh at yourself even .... its a measuring gage to let you know that if you can laugh at life then you will be alright.
mark and jen ...i havent been here giving my verbal worth recently... but found your past posting highly amusing....
LAUGHTER !!!! GOOD FOR THE SOUL OR EVEN ARGHSOUL HEHEHEH N:B joke is NOT TARGETED AT ANYONE .... :o)
Bee from the UK
X
in McKinney, TX
 Member
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 | 11:01 AM
Thats why I am here, Bee. To bring everyone a little happiness, except for John, He must not like to laugh, he must not know this site very well, he doesn't even know who the moderator is, but thats ok.

I myself will be serious and sarcastic; No need to be a stiff all the time, and in order to learn or understand something better, one would agree you also need to understand peoples sarcasm as well. Except when some one is sarcastic towards me,ofcoarse, then it isn't ok, and I'm sure everyone will agree with me.
Mitch K
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 | 06:56 PM
Regarding Anastasia and John's comment who the author is, interestingly, I've thought the same. The style is just like Toby's - predominantly arrogant.

P.S. About "pre-session instructions" I'll write another time, soon.
~
Bee
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 | 03:49 AM
Stephen,
Re to mind me not to be sarcastic with you then :o) not sure what the prospects would be ,but im not dumb enough to test the waters heheheehheheh ;o)
Bee
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 | 03:53 AM
Argh stupid pc !!! i just re read my posting after hitting submit ... ignore the to in the word remind... but im sure you could make sense of my waffle(verbal drab)
Mitch K
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 | 05:49 AM
(Note: because of limitations of number of characters per post my message is broken into parts.)

Part 1:

Okay, having in mind new visitors to this forum, and at the same time supposedly new to the changed content of DNA Perfection website, I've decided to respond to that other poster's biased comments about my post from Sun. Nov.21, 2004, describing some part of Toby Alexander's practice, namely Maharic Seal technique, made by him a prerequisite for a DNA Activation 2 session.

In that post I mentioned that I received the instructions only one week before the session, which for someone working full time and overtime, like in my case, it translated to very few hours left to master the technique.

The question is, why Toby who calls himself a facilitator (facilitate means: to make easier) chose to withhold his requirement to the last minute? It was not just something he overlooked, since at one point I specifically inquired him about pre-session instructions. To make this clear, I'll refer to specific dates.
My first encounter with DNA Perfection was in August 2004. On Aug.16 I sent Toby my first PayPal payment writing a note that was for "...one/first session". Next day he responded proposing a date: Sept.23, to which I agreed, mentioning that "I shall await his further instructions". One day later, Aug.18, Toby confirmed, however, no instructions were included. Well, I waited patiently to the very last day, but nothing came, so I emailed Toby about this. In his response he wrote: "...there are no pre-session instructions for the Auric Clearing or Karmic Session - only for the DNA activations." That was September 23. Next, Sept.24, I sent my second PayPal payment for the three remaining sessions in the DNA Activation process. Toby responded on October 1, proposing dates: Oct.28 for Karma Removal, Nov.04 for DNA Activation 1, and Nov.11 for DNA Activation 2, including a note: "...For the Karmic Session, please just get into a relaxed, receptive state again - for the DNA activations, I will send you pre-session instructions." One month later, on November 03, I was finally sent pre-session instructions for DNA1 and DNA2 activations.
So, instead of only one week, Toby could inform me about his secret requirement at least six weeks, if not twelve, before the session (counting from Oct.01 or Aug.18, respectively).
Mitch K
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 | 05:50 AM
Part 2:

However, there was a time when Toby acting differently decided to inform the public about his requirement, even providing links to the Azurite Press (in my case he sent copied and pasted document not revealing the source of the text making impression as he was the sole author). The information appeared in December 2004 in a new chapter about Indigo children then under caption "Important". That wasn't for very long though, because in January 2005 Toby made that part of his practice secret again.

In case some readers would wonder about this, here it is, the paragraph titled "What is required of you" in its entirety, what it contained before:

"As the coming new year approaches and I formulate my goals for 2005, I have decided to be a little more selective on who I work with and who I spend my energy on. I just do not have time to try to "prove" this work to skeptics or people who don't have the frequency receivers active in their DNA to "get" this. If you resonate with this information and have the attitude that you will do your part and are actually internally driven to obtain more knowledge about this, then I am sure you are right for this work and I will be honored to help FACILITATE the sessions for you. What is a requirement after I schedule you and before we do your first session is for you to be able to do something called the Eckasha Maharic Seal technique. This is a technique to build your frequency and help you integrate the sessions that I offer in the best way possible for you. Please take a look at this technique at http://www.azuritepress.com/Maharic.htm.

This is another little "test" to see if you are right for this work 😊 If you resonate with the technique and are willing to do it, then I will work with you, as this is a pre-requisite for the DNA activations. What happens most of the time is that the frequency of my site and http://www.azuritepress.com is so high that when a person's Higher self guides them to these sites, the person doesn't have a high enough frequency to receive the information yet. So deep down inside, you know that this is right for you, however you just need a little "push" or "jumpstart" in your frequency to be able to fully understand and accrete this. This is what the 4 sessions I offer are for. To raise your frequency to such a point to where you can start doing the techniques on your own, and guide you to the right books and information in the most beneficial and efficient order, so that once you totally heal yourself, that you can facilitate healing for the planet and others.

Another thing that is required of you is a great attitude. If you have a great attitude then things will be much easier, and I can facilitate just about anything that you set you intent on. At this point, I cannot allow my energy to be taken or spend my time trying to change people stuck in the victim-victimizer karmic loop, skeptics who cannot see the possibility of this work, or people only concerned with money, material things, etc. Let me make something very clear here. This practice is ONLY for people who are serious about their spiritual development and evolution. This MUST be your 1st priority if you want me to help you and you must be motivated and disciplined enough to do what is required of you. My goal is to help you realize that you too have a 12th dimensional Christos Avatar self and together, we can remove the energetic blockages to you embodying this. When you achieve this SPIRITUAL mastery, then everything in the material world becomes A LOT easier."
~
swp
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 11:36 AM
Brownangel wrote:
<em>I am an attorney at law with not much of a background in science.</em>

The lack of a scientific background is self-evident. That you can have such a distorted view of reality and practice law is dangerous.

<em>I have however been on a search for spiritual enlightenment for several years.</em>

Then you wasted a lot of time. Suck it up and live in the REAL world, instead of looking for mystical answers from some fanatasy world.

<em>I contacted Toby and he responded quickly to me.</em>

i.e. he got a bite.

<em>I did have great doubt on the intellectual level and this caused me to do some more research.
</em>

Either you are lying or you haven't the foggiest clue how to do research. That's the really sad thing... that these con artists continue these "new age" scams because people are so ignorant.

<em>The long and the short of this is that I did my research I started doing the Maharic seal meditation and certain specific meditations to clear blockages in my energy field</em>

Stop! enough nonsense - What every field??? YOU DON'T BLOODY HAVE AN "ENERGY FIELD". If you did, when you go to the doctor for tests, one of them would be to check out the energy field.. they don't do such a test, because there is no such thing. Sheesh.. people will believe anything jsut because someone suggests it to them.. get the facts people!

<em>That being said, I wish to say this. Whether or not it is in actuality "DNA Activation" or some energy/meditation techniques to remove blockages - the theory works.</em>

You mean, the placebo effect works, thus giving scammers like Toby a basis for his deception. There never was any "blockage" but if you "believe" it was cleared you will act as it some sort of "blackage" were cleared.

<em>in clearing our blockages that it is always useful to have a guide to assist us. Toby may very well be that.</em>

No, he is just a scammer exploiting the naive.

<em>We are all different but at an atomic level we are all the same sharing the same divine energy to exist.</em>

Stop making stuff up. What "devine enegery" ?

<em>During one of my meditations God gave me these words and I share them with you all now
"We all are expressions of God, perfect in that aspect of God that we exhibit, we engage this journey and fulfill our destinies when we come to see this TRUTH not only in ourselves but in all others" Copyright (c) 2005 Margaret Rose</em>

It seems God violated Margaret's copyright. Shame on him.
swp
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 11:52 AM
<em>This is another little "test" to see if you are right for this work smile If you resonate with the technique and are willing to do it, then I will work with you, as this is a pre-requisite for the DNA activations.</em>

Toby doesn't know the meaning of the owrd resonate it seems. It is hilarious to read this nonsense. Hobbled together words and technical terms that try to make it sound as if there is some basis for his scam.


<em>What happens most of the time is that the frequency of my site and http://www.azuritepress.com is so high</em>

Whoa! A web site DOES NOT HAVE A FREQUENCY! If it does tell us what it is in the standard units for frequency, Hertz (Hz). How did you measure it?...

<em>that when a person's Higher self guides them to these sites, the person doesn't have a high enough frequency to receive the information yet.</em>

Guess what? "People" don't have frequencies either. They also don't have a "higher self", whatever that is supposed to mean. What a load of crap.
antara
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 02:15 PM
didn't toby said this site was low frequency
how come after people has been in touch with him are landing here or could it be his multidemsional personalities
antara
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 02:23 PM
brown angel you need to do a lot more research just because you were meditating does not mean you heard the voice of god. there are lots of people who channel are possesed . plus all that new age thing is just another fad another modern day religion get it in yourself being an attorney, just because some one claims all this thing about dna and all these pretty things he can do does not make him any wiser than you do not let the blind lead the blind
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