Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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I would advise you to save your money. Anything the Temple offers can be found in outside sources. Most of their ideas come from old and modern concepts that can be found at amazon.com or a library.
If you are on LttD, stir some shit up by subtly letting your CoS friends know about the MoH and what has been written here.
The important fact is that they don't mention cryonics on their website. They hide that. That's the big secret. They don't tell you that once you join, you MUST purchase a 30k+ cryonics contract to get into the upper levels.
Like other similar "occult" groups, they will brainwash you into thinking that those in the group are special (predator/elite) while those outside the group are merely human (prey/robots). Once you accept that, you will begin to make decisions based on the erroneous belief that the group members posses superior ideas to those outside the group. You may lose money and time while you figure out that it's all B.S. But eventually, everyone does. That's why you can't find much more than a dozen members who have been with the group for over a decade.Everyone is new every several years! Everyone figures it out !ROFL!
If you follow the instructions described there you have the opportunity to verify what you seek and much more.
However, please understand that if you already disbelieve in such things, you will only succeed in proving that you can effectively block psi, something that has been publicly known since 1942.
The Temple Motto is "Test Everything, Believe Nothing."
The Temple Motto is not "Test us on everything and skip doing it yourself."
The Temple Motto is also not "Test nothing yourself and disbelieve everything."
You also have to drop your beliefs that such things are not possible to ever have a reliable chance to verify them for yourself.
You have to validate the experiences yourself to actually know what is so.
Otherwise you will never be certain whether or not you are being tricked by others or just deluding yourself.
Anything you do not do yourself is based on faith, not personal validation.
You are either having faith in what others are claiming, or you are testing these things for yourself and acquiring bedrock certainty.
For the former, there are about six billion humans ready to take you in.
We are only interested in the latter.
We are not about debate, argumentation, or other such useless nonsense.
The Temple is only concerned with obtaining results that the very few can achieve since only a very few are willing to actually "Test Everything, Believe Nothing".
For the masses, they must cling to their beliefs even it means their death.
We seek the few who want more and are willing to act on that desire.
The Temple is, itself, the test."
You think it is humorous to post private messages on a public forum.
It is not.
All our actions have immediate karmic repercussions.
I hope you are prepared to deal with yours.
The Six Earthly Secrets are not casual suggestions but the true Grand Grimoire of Earthly Magic - the secrets to mastering your life on this world first.
You first.
Others second.
It is the only order that makes sense.
Glad that you understand this already.
That puts you ahead of about six billion people!"
Michael Persinger, a medical researcher in Canada, applies pulsing magnetic fields to certain parts of the brain, a volunteer has an out of body experience or perceives "aliens" in the room, and then Persinger says that this "proves" it was all a hallucination.
It proves nothing of the sort.
It only demonstrates that sometimes using pulsed magnetic fields you can induce an out of body experience or the experience of perceiving "aliens" in the same room with you.
Persinger does not even consider the possiblity that his magnetic fields might be enabling the brain to perceive and do things that otherwise it does not seem to do.
He assumes there is no astral body that could leave the physical body and so he is looking only for what could cause these "hallucinations".
He assumes that there is no one else in the room that the subject reports because Persinger does not see anyone else.
Perhaps Persinger should consider that the subject is now capable of seeing things that Persinger is still blind to!
It is quite sad to see these otherwise intelligent researchers ignore reports from their subjects when they acquire information they "should" not know while having an out of body experience!
But, over and over again, people do exactly that! They continue to have out of body experiences commonly in life threatening situations (such as the near death experience or NDE) and report back information they acquired while away from the body which is then verified as correct.
For the Vampire it is necessary to remember that the ignorant superstitious belief in classical materialism (disproven by physics for more than a century now) is common and stubbornly maintained by many scientists in other fields.
They should really know better but long held beliefs are difficult for the average person to challenge and break free from - especially when all of your peers still seem to view any other perspective as heresy.
The Vampire must recognize that these "authorities" have their own deeply held prejudices just as one would expect from members of a fundamentalist Christian church when confronted with evidence for evolution.
"Materialism" is a faith that has been disproven by science.
This is important to remember since we are still surrounded by "scientists" who are true believers in that faith!
Test Everything. Believe Nothing.
Especially do not simply believe what the priests of a disproven religion tell you is true or false.
Look at the actual evidence and make your own judgments.
Do not just believe what you are told by anyone.
Even so-called "scientists".
http://www.occultforum.org/forum/topic?id=27109
The thread had history of the TOV too!
We are Watching.
All you do you lie and threaten like you watch us. You are like American Christians!
"...there is no glory for you, female.. and your very nature and destiny is to be chained to earth and breed breed breed. and so you do and so you will. all you can hope for is a good man who will remind you and set you in your right place. and keep you there forever. just as humans get very unsettled when they are not in the servitude position, so do females, when they do not serve a man..."
Well, this outta beat the female ToV members into submission - or are you a pro-gay organization?
http://www.excaliburfilms.com/AdultDVD/91476D1_Shaved_Pink_dvd.htm
Blessed Be!
Kelly
At least as Vampires, we don't need to play pretend whence communicating with each other!"
!!!!
For those of us who validated our beloved teachings yet do not accept the cryonics because the Dragon does not require it, let us band again together and create a new clutch outside of the Temple.
Adepts, I know you are reading this. A new Temple to arise. We will keep our beloved teachings as they were before. Without the unnecessary cryonics. Do not let does who believe in being frozen look down upon us anymore. We are still Adepts. Please. Your thoughts.
JK
Adept
I'm interested.
X, ex-fourth circle member
I wonder what kind of losers are attracted to join your group. Let me guess, the majority of your members are men, right? I hope PETA takes notice of this.
Not all Vampires accept the cryonics position so often presented here. There are some of us who believe that the soul does not require a fleshly container to continue it's eternal existence. One day we may be able to express these beliefs openly and without fear. Cryonics should be interpreted as a possibility and not a necessity for the Vampire, regardless of what some unfortunately would prefer to believe. Your site may help this occur sooner rather than later.
Cheers
Ansuz-Laguz
How do you know you have an eternal soul?
How do you know what the shelf life of a soul is?
You are right, this is a belief unless you can support this belief with proof.
What other things do you take on faith that the ToV teaches?
By my own experience. When you have direct experience of the reality of the Dragon, you are left with no doubts. This is something that must be earned through your own efforts. You already have it, you just are not aware of it.
"How do you know what the shelf life of a soul is?"
The Dragon, the True Self, is timeless consciousness. Designations proper for describing the material universe are irrelevant.
Anyone who gives you an answer is lying.
"You are right, this is a belief unless you can support this belief with proof."
Your existence is enough.
"What other things do you take on faith that the ToV teaches?"
You know the Vampire Teachings (in their original form) are not based on faith. Let's keep it real.
You have no experience of eternity, you are but an animal as described by Anton LeVey in the Satanic Bible.
You are exactly what prey is. Ignorant of the rare opportunity before you.
So it has being for millions of years.
The Undead Gods rule over you. No cryonics necessery. They just do.
Ansuz-Laguz, Magus
that they are only the carnal - AND ALWAYS WERE! Then he either hates himself to
death, day by day - or rejoices that he is what he is!"--"The God You Save May Be Yourself" from The Satanic Bible by Anton Szandor LaVey
Why are you responding to ignorant prey then? Don't you have billions of humans to rule over, however, you rule over them? By the way, how do you guys rule over humans? Do they do your dishes, wash your cars or what?
Really?!!! Wow!
I just can't BELIEVE this is so!
MILLIONS of YEARS! Wow!
Everyone run out and get your copy of The Vampire Bible now!!!
I guess you have proof of the ToV being MILLIONS of years old or else you wouln't have made such a claim.
Wow!
that they are only the carnal - AND ALWAYS WERE! Then he either hates himself to
death, day by day - or rejoices that he is what he is!"--"The God You Save May Be Yourself" from The Satanic Bible by Anton Szandor LaVey"
@anonymous,
WTF? Who cares what Anton LaVey says? Vampirism is not limited to the words of a mere carny.
You can just be a LaVeyan Satanist or go beyond. The LaVeyan Satanist is lazy. It's a good place to start but if you stay there, it is a mentally lazy path. Whatever, I'm done here.
You don't get it and will never get it.
It's probably a hoax (like the ToV) for all I know.
Does Daddy Nemo you're posting this shit here? What would Daddy Nemo, Mummy Isabel and Brother Faelyn think of all this shit you've been saying?
Fucking moron.
http://www.paganspace.net/forum/topics/the-tov-is-not-lhp
a 1940's communist propaganda video which has been debunked for years.
so the ToV plan to "contaminate our precious bodily fluids"?
I spose your the kind of dickface that worries about flouride in water as well.
someone tell Major Ripper.
Go and give it to Faelyn and Lingua up the ass. See how that feels. Nice, eh?
BTW - Loved the Nemo Porn Review -
Very nice find
You can just be a LaVeyan Satanist or go beyond. The LaVeyan Satanist is lazy. It's a good place to start but if you stay there, it is a mentally lazy path.
Did you just call Nemo LAZY and accuse him of taking a mentally lazy path? *smirk*
You do know your precious ToV leader is a Church of Satan Magister, right? 😉 Wow! I thought a Magus Grand Pu-baa of the Count Chocula Elite would know that much about their own leader?
I do remember such negative and pompous attitudes directed towards Satanism while some like to label Satanism as "inferior" in comparison to the ToV teachings on the Lifeforce messageboard.
I guess you guys are above and better than mere puny human Satanists because you are LORDS OF THE EARTH.
In my opinion, you sound like just another internet tough guy that has to brag saying you are LORD and GOD and going to eat everyone's souls because you are insecure in your own religion or just plain crazy and self-deluded.
After comments like yours, I wonder why the ToV tolerates enemies of the CoS that it seems to be filled with.
I wonder how that is going to make non-ToV Satanists feel around their Lords and Gods and Rulers of the earth flying ToV banners on LTTD?
Remember, CoS Magisters, these little retards are your LORDS OF THE EARTH and they are going to eat your souls during the FINAL HARVEST.
I guess you are their bitches and better kiss their ass on LTTD if you know what is best for you so they MIGHT spare you in the END OF DAYS.
Kiss their flying skull ring human Satanists before your soul is devoured!!!
Amen...
Bow before your GODS!!! Puny lazy human Satanists!
I never said satanism is inferior. I don't dig it myself. But some Vampires do. I respect that. But you have to understand that LaVeyan Satanism does not and cannot represent the whole picture of reality. Many Vampires find Satanism to be the best approach to the material existence. And that is what they use it for. So Satanism is perfectly valid and agreeable in that specific reality. Now dealing with consciousness, it gets muddy. Here LaVey left it purposely empty and it is here that the Vampire comes into play in the Nightside. The Vampire Religion has all the answers to consciousness, to reality beyond the carnal. You don't take it on faith. You prove it to yourself. Some people are satisfied with materialism and that's cool. But certain folk are drawn to something deeper. They sense it. Its in their DNA. They are the Vampires.
Are you one of us?
Confederacy of Vampire Adepts...announcement/website/general membership info. soon.
http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/666SHighMass.html
http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/666SHighMass.html"
I'm not an any side. I'm not affiliated with either group. That Satanic High Mass was nearly five freaking years ago! What have they done since?
They went into the Hellfire caves and got a new Black House ready. Big deal! My point is that what is a once and a while thing for Satanism, is the norm for those who are Vampires. Vampires use Greater Magic all the time, not just for kicks, publicity, or every now and then.
I think those who are truly wise will use both perspectives and make the most of them. If that is what they want to do.
-Magus Anton Szandor LaVey (The Devil's Notebook, "Diabolica")
http://www.cultofcthulhu.net/2011/02/the-magickal-super-consciousness-of-nyarlathotep-diabolus-rex/
Indeed. But I think the main issue people are having with CoS` magic (or even Anton LaVeys) is that it seems to be understood as psychodrama ONLY and nothing that could produce external results of any kind (and then Im not talking about gaining a fresh perspective or new found motivation to go out and get your hands dirty).
Nothing wrong with this, I personally find this to be a great method!
But I keep hearing several different things regarding the use of Satanic "magic", even old-timers (now resigned) in the CoS that states that LaVey only shrouded the subject in metaphors because of the audience he was speaking to.
No doubt about that Satanic magic WORKS, even only as applied psychology... But views seems to differ regarding HOW and WHAT is (may be) going on.
Results are everything...but it would be very interesting to hear from experienced Satanists if they actually mean that a ritual can be used to manipulate certain powers and actually bring about the destruction (as in death, tragedy, injury etc etc) of an enemy by itself.
Diabolous Rex understands and so have others before him. Sa Majeste Nemo haz spoken of this in his who's there? Black Flame article (also in Fire from within.)
You cannot ignore zee problem for so long.
You iz either real magician or playing a magician.
you choose ..
S'il vous plait, mon ami.
Play pretend as militant atheist CoS or be real magician (many CoS feel this way but quiet about it, in ToV no need to hide truth.)
Gloire a Satan!
Gloire a Tiamat!
Also, the definition of magic in The Satanic Bible is clear on his personal view towards magic:
What is the difference between Greater Magic and Greater Black Magic?
Thats the only difference, its the same thing pretty much.