Satellite Map Oddity

I got an email from Mike Scofield asking about this odd thing that can be seen via Google's satellite map out in the middle of the desert around Nevada. Mike writes:

Assuming I did the link right, you should see a giant triangle with concentric circles in it. I did some poking around and it looks like this symbol is ~near~ Area 51. This leads me to think it's one of two different hoaxes. One is that it's a very good photoshop someone slipped into the satalite map that Google is referencing or, two, that it is a symbol out there in the desert someone did that isn't related to Area 51.

Honestly, I don't know what this is. I'm guessing it's some kind of military base. If you zoom in you can see that it hasn't been photoshopped in (at least, it doesn't appear to me as if it's been photoshopped). The triangle and concentric circles appear to be roads.
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Posted on Tue May 10, 2005



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I can't see it. I can see the img attached to the post, but not the link. The link comes up googlemaps...but blank. Was that supposed to be the original image?
Posted by Maegan  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  11:44 AM
Err wait, that didn't work. can we post links here? click
Posted by Kat  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  12:18 PM
You drop your dud bomb, then you drive out to the site and see how closely you hit. Then you take what's left back to the shop and try different fins on the bomb casing to see about improving the design.

The rings don't merely tell you how accurate you were, they're roads so you can recover your dud, and the triangle makes it unmistakable, even for a rookie pilot. The triangle is a road, too, in case you miss the target by that far. The terrain is flat so that finding your bomb casing won't be too difficult, even if it's buried itself in the sand. Weather conditions are good for practise year-round. And there's nobody around to complain about bombing runs.

But it probably hasn't been used for training bomber crews for decades, at least since modern targeting technology became available. Someone who built bomb casings or trained there might remember that target even today, if you can find him or her.
Posted by Bomber man  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  12:37 PM
Bomber Man, it's an interesting thing that you've posted, but I don't think it applies to this particular picture. The thing is laid across hills, not flat, and the lower left triangle corner goes across what's fairly clearly a deep stream valley. (The actual presence of water is probably seasonal.)

Kat, I've seen things like that one when flying over the desert in commercial flights, too. That one is much more obviously an installation of some kind.
Posted by cvirtue  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  01:12 PM
so. . . You puts the lines there on the ground or else your dud bombs don't gets found?

I like that explanation excpet it doesn't explain the backwards letter "E" at the top point of the triangle.

Maybe this is really an alien eye chart used for testing their space pilots before they issue flying licenses (point your tentacle in the direction you think the symbol is going).
Posted by RonT  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  01:43 PM
If the triangle is really there, other flyovers should show it.

I had a little spare time, so I tried to find the same area via the satellite images at terraserver. I didn't find any triangles, but that may only mean that I didn't find the right location. Somone with more time, or more familiarity with satellite images, may well succeed.
Posted by cvirtue  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  02:31 PM
This, and several other anomalies in the desert, have been confirmed by fan websites to be bombing targets. Here's another weird one; a compass: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.953432,-117.871714&spn=0.019870,0.030770&t=k&hl=en
Posted by Nick  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  02:57 PM
Sorry, you have to switch to satellite view and zoom in a lot to see it.
Posted by Nick  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  02:58 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.487369,-116.228828&spn=0.013947,0.021157&t=k&hl=en

I was dragging the mouse around and lost the triangle. I looked for it again and I ran into that nearby. (Assuming I linked right as well) If you zoom in, you can see concentric circles. No triangle this time though. Guess it's not an isolated incident?

(For some reason you might have to change it to "sattelite" map, but just hit the zooms and it should still be centered in the right place)
Posted by Ajin  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  03:07 PM
Nick seems to mean this url, which shows a lovely compass near EDW Edwards Air Force Base, USA. You can see the runways nearby.

http://tinyurl.com/85vp3

Here's the real URL, but the outgoing link is munged by museumofhoaxes, so it may not work properly if you click on it.

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.954162,-117.873302&spn=0.018239,0.023603&t=k&hl=en
Posted by Nick's Pal  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  03:32 PM
I'm surprised that no one yet has mentioned the other possibility: the guys at Google decided to pull one or more litle pranks on us. I wouldn't put it past them to add something like this as a joke. (and they don't need to for copyright purposes, they have the watermarks for that)
Posted by mormagli  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  05:35 PM
Mike here,

On the link posted by Nick, I zoomed out a little and found another group of concentric circles (to the North-West a little from his linked circles. In the center of the NW group of circles is what looks like a small building with a road linking the two circle groups.

If you go to the original triangle/circle group and zoom out to the fourth little pin from the top of the zoom bar then scroll south, you'll see that several of the things posted here are in this north-south corridor. This looks more and more like it fits the theory that these are bomb training tools and not maps for little green men to use as navigation tools.

Oh, and to answer how I found this: I'm a geek and found it on a gaming site.

~Mike
Posted by Reinstag  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  06:25 PM
Found another triangle, no circles in this one:

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax?URL=http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.529469,-116.208959&spn=0.010579,0.015385&t=k&hl=en
Posted by ErikPSO  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  06:41 PM
Going to the second link that ErikPSO posted, you can go just a little northeast and see more structures like those he pointed to. Around these other groups are what look a lot like craters. Time to test my skills at linking...

Click me!

You'll have to zoom in and clink satelite of course.
Posted by Reinstag  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  06:45 PM
I would guess that those are underground missile silos, but then the government might come after me.
Posted by ErikPSO  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  07:43 PM
Nick's Pal, when the software the site runs on has to automatically 'activate' a link, it seems to get confused by question marks in URLs. If you link via html, then the problems go away.
Posted by The Curator  in  San Diego  on  Tue May 10, 2005  at  07:55 PM
There are three odd structures all in a rough north south lines of each other. The traingle, a comapass, and a cross. There is also an airfield off to the east as well.

So here's my input. They used to do aerial bombing runs, both post and pre hiroshima nuclear bomb being dropped. The idea was to hit a specific area with the nuclear payload and do a sharp 180 turn to get away from the blast as quick as possible. They look like drop zone targets to me, with a nearby airfield. This is probably where they train players who fly the steatlh bombers. Groom lake has been sited as a test grounds for stealth skunk work projects.
Posted by Black Omne  on  Wed May 11, 2005  at  02:13 PM
Sorry last post should have said pilots not players. Bad spell check. But what is odd is that you don't see any nearby base to the structures formentioned. There is one but where is it.
Posted by black omne  on  Wed May 11, 2005  at  02:17 PM
I was looking around terraserver.com and found this image which clearly shows the "roads" as well... Check it out! 😊 http://terraserver.com/imagery/image_gx.asp?cpx=-116.027856&cpy=37.66692&res=8&provider_id=320&t=pan
Posted by AlmostAMAZING  on  Wed May 11, 2005  at  06:21 PM
FYI, Clicking the link in my last post doesn't seem to be working but if you copy past the url into a browser, that works...
Posted by AlmostAMAZING  on  Wed May 11, 2005  at  06:27 PM
god your all sooo naive, its not aliens or a bomb test site, it is obvously the esoteric prision for azathoth, dark lord of the universe whom has been imprisoned by the illuminati and being used as a power battery for their evil deeds... its obvous....

wheres my medication?
Posted by joeodd*FNORD*  on  Thu May 12, 2005  at  04:40 AM
David said, "if it is a gridline layout to measure explosive effects, why oblongs instead of perfect circles?"

I suspect that if you did the math, you'd find that they are perfect circles after you remove the effects of their being displayed on a cylindrical projection with a base latitude of 39.5 degrees.
Posted by Ron  on  Thu May 12, 2005  at  10:24 AM
http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=groom+lake&ll=37.401001,-116.868492&sll=34.710938,-112.109525&spn=0.007682,0.009946&sspn=3.851563,7.259440&t=k&hl=en

what do you make of this its like a cricle with lines coming out at the sides, isnt it weird what the government has put all over the south west
Posted by Hawkeye  on  Fri May 13, 2005  at  11:11 AM
Sure looks photoshopped to me.

There couldn't actually be straight lines across contoured terrain that look straight from more than one vantage point.

Here's a sample with some lines I added.



What makes you say it doesn't appear to be photoshopped?

Joe
Posted by joe  on  Fri May 13, 2005  at  12:26 PM
There is a process called "orthorectification" that attempts to correct for distortions caused by the limitations of the camera's optical system and by differences in elevation. It doesn't work very well on skyscrapers, but hills aren't generally a big challenge for the software. Depending on the source of that part of Google's image database, they might very well have been orthorectified at some point, thus making the lines straight again.
Posted by Ron  on  Fri May 13, 2005  at  12:31 PM
If it's a conspiracy or a photoshop job, someone at USGS was in on it, way back whenever the topo for that quad was revised (or when it was scanned for the DRG, which was more recently but still a while ago):

http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=12&Z=11&X=732&Y=5211&W=3
Posted by Ron  on  Fri May 13, 2005  at  12:53 PM
And of course my link doesn't work.

http://tinyurl.com/dleow
Posted by Ron  on  Fri May 13, 2005  at  01:18 PM
That's nothing. There are three patterns out in the desert around Phoenix that look like that. Here's a link to one of them. The others aren't too hard to find by yourself.
Posted by Tim  on  Thu May 19, 2005  at  12:38 PM
Oops, the link didn't come through in my post above so here it is.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=33.745537,-112.633896&spn=0.031328,0.042272&t=k&hl=en
Posted by Tim  on  Thu May 19, 2005  at  12:40 PM
that is near the Yuuca Mountain where they store nuclear waste. It might be some sort of protection
Posted by Pat  on  Tue May 24, 2005  at  07:16 AM
I found a giant metallic disk shaped object..
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=33.745537,-112.633896
Posted by n----i0  on  Wed May 25, 2005  at  09:40 PM
The "Star of David" one is likely to be a bombing target simulation as well, since the Soviets would protect their nuclear missle launch sites with several SA-2 rockets laid out in that configuration.

During the Cuban Missle Crisis, U-2 recon photos showed locations just like those being prepared during the build-up.
Posted by Sybaris  on  Thu May 26, 2005  at  12:13 PM
what is this?

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.410250,-116.226833

Its way north (about 3 minutes of clicking to get there) from the triangle
Posted by nik  on  Sun Jul 03, 2005  at  04:39 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.696865,-115.961208&spn=0.104859,0.161448&t=k&hl=en

I ment that... whats that?? circle things...O.o

(stupid copy didn't get what I wanted before)
Posted by nik  on  Sun Jul 03, 2005  at  05:27 PM
i think the circle things that nik is talking about are farm fields. the reason they're circular is because they have a sprinkler in the center that spins, causing the circle. as to why they're laid out the way they are (scattered everywhere), i don't know.
Posted by guy  on  Thu Jul 14, 2005  at  05:48 AM
That triangle thing in Nevada is supposedly a target with the #3 on it... there is a similar one if you go a bit to the west with a #2 on it... I have yet to find #1.

it is strange to see that unmarked airstrip... there are several in the area. The one that has been linked here, however, has an airplane sitting on the runway.
Posted by Thnikkamax  on  Mon Jul 18, 2005  at  01:25 AM
The triangle with circles in it are on (or nearby) the Nellis Air Force Range (NAFR). See the links below for more information. This test range covers 3 million acres.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/nellis-range.htm
http://www.ufomind.com/area51/org/nellis/
Posted by Dave  on  Thu Aug 18, 2005  at  09:04 AM
I think this is a target out at the test range in nevada. I could be wrong but that is what it looks like, go to the atomic museum web page, I think that is where i saw it the first time.
Posted by lance scott  on  Sat Sep 03, 2005  at  01:52 AM
Enough with the conspiracy theories! They don't call this region of Nevada a "bombing range" for nothing. Though I'm sure there are some secretive things going on, everything posted here so far is a legitimate part of the bombing range. These are targets, mock air strips, etc., and are intended to be blown up. The large craters are indeed caused by nuclear weapons tests. The small craters all over the rest of the range are traditional bombs.

Much of the bombing range is accessible to the public and/or the media, though you usually need a guide (for your safety).

The big triangle is an old gravel air strip, with runways in three directions to facilitate unpowered landings in just about any wind.

The green circles are irrigated agriculture and are OUTSIDE of the bombing range. In Google, the area reserved for the test site is marked in gray, just like all government land or national parks.

These are not pranks or secret government installations. They're things you should expect to see on a bombing range/nuclear test site.
Posted by David  on  Sun Sep 25, 2005  at  08:30 PM
Did anyone ever find target #1? You only see #2 and #3 posted all over, but not #1.
Posted by Thnikkamax  on  Mon Sep 26, 2005  at  03:57 PM
Theres a similar area in Indiana. I've drove by it many times, big fence, warning signs, etc. Used to be a bombing area. Some areas are being/have been checked for live bombs and are being opened as an area for hunters and fishermen. Heres a funny pattern and an airstrip in this area. Pan around theres lots of stuff.

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.666926,-116.027856&spn=0.015600,0.021286&t=k&hl=en
Posted by doug smiley  on  Sat Oct 01, 2005  at  09:58 PM
stupid link - try again:
<a >CLICK!</a>
Posted by doug smiley  on  Sat Oct 01, 2005  at  09:59 PM
why does it always go to the thing in the desert, hmm..

<a > this should work</a>
Posted by doug smiley  on  Sat Oct 01, 2005  at  10:01 PM
It's real, and was constructed at great expense by the church of scientology as some sort of a beacon to inter-stellar travellers to "guide them in".

Google it if you're interested.
Posted by Trevor  on  Sat Dec 31, 2005  at  02:11 AM
I see that same symbols in visions. The earth is not the only place where life grows. The triangle is a symbol of life, and the same symbol on th ships. They will come. 2012
Posted by The never telling  on  Wed Mar 08, 2006  at  11:53 PM
pratap (up) map
Posted by abhishek somvanshi  on  Wed Jul 19, 2006  at  09:34 AM
THis one is weird too
Posted by FRANKARDETTE  on  Sun Oct 22, 2006  at  02:56 PM
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