Philanderers International

Does no one else find it extremley sad that there is a website dedicated to deceiving the ones you love the most? If your not happy, be honest and just get a divorce.

I setup a business meeting to meet a woman from AshelyMadison.com. The person was a fake profile and left a letter to me at the lobby saying that they are investigating people who cheat on their spouse. They left a invoice that can only be paid to paypal for $3000 and said they would stop their investigation if I paid the money.

There is no real screening done on these sites. I would avoid them like the plague.

Ashley Madison has numerous fake ads placed on their site. I can tell you, though, that there are a few real ones...but those are few and far between. And yes, as you might expect, most of the legit ads from females are from rather desperate people. Enough said on that. But to the original point, a very large proportion of the Ashley Madison female postings are fakes. It's a great scam and many other sites, include some regular dating sites, do the same thing. But in this case, who's going to turn them in? My hope, though, is that word gets around and they'll eventually go under.

Anyone know of a good cheating site?

What's the best for cheatin'?
craigslist.com
outsidelove.com
philanderers.com
wildmatch.com

Stay far from anything that say wives or milf or lonely

I'm a married guy who used Ashley Madison for a year now. When I first registered I realized right away I was being contacted by shills, or fakes, or people paid by the company to get me to buy credits to chat. I did eventually buy credits worth $150. I have had contact with 2 women in my area who I think are real. I have not met either in person. But I think almost all the rest of the women who contacted me are fakes.
These women from my area contact me telling me they'd like to hear from me and send me pictures that are frankly, gorgeous. I then pay to send them an email. Receive a response like "would love to chat some time" but then you never see them online long enough to chat. The killer was when I noticed a pattern a couple weeks ago of about four of these really "attractive women" signing on all at once at the same time and signing off at the same time. Very suspicious. Should really get around to complaining to Ashley Madsion but I figure what;;s the use.
I thought if I put my comments out on the web it might help out some other potential sucker.
Good luck!

I happen to know philanderers.com is for real! I was on the site for 3 years and in this time met up with 3 men,( however chatted with many). Met with one of which was too controling, one described himself as a prince and was really the frog. And well the other is now my fiance. We have both left our families on good terms of course and are planning to marry here soon. I love the site of course. Just be careful there are some scam women on there. The guy that tells his story above about the 3000.00 ashley madison scam. There is alot of that on both sites. I've heard alot of horror stories! good luck

What was the experience of the men you met there?

I read all the things on this page and think you should go to http://www.outsidelove.com and you'll see it is the place to be.

By the way, since it was listed as an affair site for years and even comes up as a site for extramarital affairs on all searchs, http://www.outsidelove.com will block ads for afairs but the site is still fun. The site owner is now a born again Christian and allows no cheating ads to his network. Still a great place to mingle though if you looking for love and some chat fun.

Ashley Madison is a brilliant scam. I've been a member for a couple of years (only because I've not used up all my credits). There are a FEW real ads from real women looking for real affairs. But that is the exception. If I were to guess, I would say that 5-10% of the ads from females are real; 90-95% are fakes. I did actually meet a real person through the site once, but I can assure you that these numbers are about right. Also, most of the real ads are not exactly people you would want to have an affair with...but that's another story. The thing about Ashley Madison is that the company has absolutely no scruples when it comes to placing fake ads, giving free memberships to women just to get them to place ads, or having their employees "pose" as women in fake chats, etc. Because they know that no one is going to come forward publically to sue them! Hopefully, the news will get out or maybe the press will expose them. But for now, they continue to scam people, mostly guys thinking that they're using a legitimate service.

There are definitely some scam profiles on Ashley Madison (AM) and likely some built in response ads to keep men on the system. In fact, most of the dating sites have used that method one time or another. That being said, I can tell you that it absolutely works. You do need to have a great profile of your own and doesn't hurt if you are good looking (and know how to write a good email). The trick is to carefully select the female profiles you like and send a priority email (with a nice hello) with no picture access, but offering picture access with a response. Stay away from women who sound to good to be true, are too young (early 20

Does anybody have info on Wildmatch.com?

Check out http://www.outsidelove.com and trash the rest.

Wild match is hooked up with another site. Lots of women, lots of contacts. Just most of them far away.
AM has some real women.
Someone needs to start a simple cheap service for this.
Philanders is real but doesn't have many members.
AFF has way too many people.

AMs responses are so canned they are hilarious. Pics dont match the physical profiles, messages dont match the profile. Got messages from "women" I contacted that were'nt close to my questions. How do they get anyone to sign up for more than month? Interesting that they made me active before check cleared. Maybe I'll go stop it (just kidding).
By the way E harmony and Great Expectations get thier share of complaints. E Harm considers matches with people you cant contact (non payers) as contacts so they dont have to refund for no matches.

This website claims to set people up for romance. However, the people and photos are false. Messages are transmitted by those who run the site. They collect money but do not deliver the service they claim to provide. They even promise you a month's free if you invite your friends, but do not give it to you. This site is totally fraudulent. Stay away from it!!

Check out http://www.outsidelove.com and forget those others.

Affairmatch.com claims to set people up for romance. However, the people and photos are false. Messages are transmitted by those who run the site. They collect money but do not deliver the service they claim to provide. They even promise you a month's free if you invite your friends, but do not give it to you. This site is totally fraudulent. Stay away from it!!

Just in case you haven't realized it, AFFAIRMATCH.COM is a major HOAX!!! The photos, especially of the women, are downloaded from the Internet!! The messages you receive are fake and are written by the crooks that own this site!! Beware, they'll steal your money!! They stole mine!!!

Mike

Yep the site affairmatch.com is a sham. Where's the class action lawyers for this stuff? Must be worth a few mil to take these guys down! Hell, I don't care if my wife finds out I was looking around, I just want to hang these guys.

Philanderers is probably the only honest site for married people. The site is real, the people are real and the affair I am currently enjoying is real. The only problem is some areas don't have many women profiles. Of course, men outnumber the women because that is generally the way it is.

In many years on the Philanderer site, i have never come across a shill profile. Does that mean every woman I have ever written to responded? Yeah, in my dreams. Fortunately, quite a few have responded, exchanged emails with me and a resulted in face to face meeting. From those a few select turned into genuine affairs.

FYI- I have seen both sides of Ashley M. I have actually had drinks with 2 ladies and then a few that seem to just disappear right before a meeting. Hmmmm. I also think there are more ladies to be met from AM, but they get so much spam from men that it's hard to get through the shuffle.

Here is something I received from philanderers.co which btw I DO NOT belong to!

You Won?
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You may not know this sender.Mark as safe|Mark as unsafe
Sent: Fri 1/04/08 9:41 PM
To:

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I have tried Ashley Madison (AshleyMadison) and have to say the site is all fake. The winks you send, never reach the other person, it is computr generated, so you then pay to contact the other person that maybe never wanted to chat with you. It is just a scam to suck up your money. I would stay away from the site. I will try to spread the word, I also contacted customer service via email, 3x and no reply, and then also called and never got a call back

Wow guys ease up! I met the most wonderful men on AM I actually had to take myself off cause I was bombarded with so much mail from great guys! All willing to travel and go that "extra mile" to meet me.

So as we speak I am "chatting" with a fake person from AM now. She is talking to me in Yahoo IM which is surprising since when I "initiated contact" and paid the credits to speak to her, she didn't say anything until there was 3 minutes left of the 20. On her profile, it said we live in the same city and that she is middle eastern. In IM she says she lives in the UK (But is relocating here soon) and was born in Spain (Though first she said she was IN Spain but when I asked her to tell me something in Spanish she switched to say she is in the UK). On her profile she mentions something about using a web cam but now as luck would have it, her web cam is broken (amazing coincidence, no?) but she just agreed to send me more photos, though, surprise surprise, she never sent them. are we really surprised by this? Nnnnoooooooo. The poor thing couldn't remember one lie to the next. The entire conversation was her back pedaling about things she said before that contradicted her more recent statements. She would avoid answering questions that were available on her AM profile and is just now saying she has to go to work. In case any of you want to try and talk to this "person" as well, her AshleyMadison profile ID is 1934945 and her screen name is coulia231. Good times!

Philanderers is for real, I met a lovely lady seeking the same in life I was and we are having a beautiful affair. We both fulfill each others needs and have much fun together. We cannot seem to get enough of one another. Ashley Madison baits their site heavily with fake ads, legit profiles are sparse. What married lady in their right mind would post pictures for the world to see freely like they do on AM?

I am surprised at all of the guys who think AM is a scam. I have met a number of really hot women there. Most met me at a hotel room and were naked with me within minutes of arrival. At the same time, Adult Friend Finder and Horney Match seemed to be full of phony women. I did not meet one woman from either of those sites. AFF sent some of my emails strait to "bulk mail." I was told by the woman receiving it that she couldn't read the letter, and that AFF said I was somehow abusing the system. THAT was a great waste of money. AM is great. You guys who think it is a hoax are doing someting wrong. Sorry. More fucking for me.

Wait,I think I need some clarification here guys... You can't make your marriage work(or wont try), you're too inept to figure out how to cheat on your own so you subscribe to a site that guarantees an affair for $250 and you can't get that to work for you either?? No wonder your marriage is sexless, what wife would want to touch the pathetic, disaffected blob of what used to be her husband?? You're all hopeless and probably gay, but good luck on your quest for more misery to distract you from how lonely it is in your closet... Enjoy paying for the herpes in the mean time! Idiots.

awesome ^^

haven't any of you ever heard of craigslist? the worst that can happen there is spamming and propositions from whores just like on these other sites, but at least you're not paying for it!

I agree with Rick. Ashley Madison appears to be legit. I've recently met an amazing women on there...met in the flesh, not on chat. Perhaps some of the profiles are fake but for the most part it's worked great. Perhaps the guys who repeatedly fail have difficulty expressing themselves and provide little for women to be attracted to. Good luck though. PS Maddy (above)...does Santa Clause still dwell in your dream world?

I tried out AM and have concluded it is a scam. I was contacted by a few women who also gave a key to their photos, and they were hot...which was just what I needed to see to keep me excited about being on the site. I tried to contact these women repeatedly and got no response. When I first bought the minimum number of credits, it cost $49. When these credits were used up, and I wanted to again buy the minimum number of credits, the price had been upped to $79. They do offer an "affair guarantee," but you have to buy the max credits, something like a grand. Who are the women that become your guaranteed affair? Prostitutes posing as unfulfilled wives?

AM is a fraud stay away from it.. They're having a superbawl add this year, with your suckers money.

I never got the paid membership on AM because of all the bogus responses I received with my free membership. I was contacted by women who's limits were "cyber affair/cyber dating." They would also never be living in my area. It just made me suspicious about the whole thing. The last contact that I received notified me of a "secret admirer." When someone ads you as a favorite, then you receive a message that you have a "secret admirer." I replied with a "wink" that I had an unpaid membership and to initiate contact with me. I was then blocked by this user. It just seems like all of the responses have been geared towards getting me to buy credits. I actually met women on Adult Friend Finder. I don't recommend Fling. I paid for that, and didn't get anything out of it.

I'm just responding to the ONE woman who's posted on here. Of course these sites work for you. The ratio of men to women is vastly in your favor. Men are the ones being scammed, not women. They don't have to scam the women because there are an excessive number of men on the site(s).


Note: Outsidelove.com isn't even a dating site. It just seems to be a link trade.

Just be realistic in a self evaluation and don't go over your head, maybe even down a bit. It can be fun (has for me), and there are real women on AM, for sure. Forget the ones with model type photos and who are chatting a lot.

Now I won't go as far as some to insult the entire male gender, but for crying out loud guys. You've somehow managed to grow a set big enough to cheat on your spouse. But when taken for real money by fake people are now complaining on a different website about being fleeced for that money and won't do anything about it. Thats just dumb. Why in the hell would you even bother with these sites, let alone agree to meet some one only to be told you have to pay out what amounts to black mail. For christ sakes grow a set and go to the cops. Black mail is illegal regarless of the situation. The same goes for their scamming you of money. Either do something about it or go and cry in a corner and never tell anyone. You reep what you soe.

Not to sound like an ass, and that is definitely not my intention... but am I the only one who decided to try "reversing" the game/odds? Try signing up as a female on any of these sites -> and VOILA! You have FREE access to everything! Hell, on Wildmatch and Bangmatch, they actually PAY MONEY to females for responding and initiating messages to male members. If a male that they contact actually signs up and joins (for a fee of course), the ladies get extra "pink points" which they can redeem for cash. Don't believe me...? Do some detective work guys, and you'll see that almost every site (aside from plentyoffish, myspace, and facebook perhaps) are only aimed at defrauding males and and making women feel "empowered," for lack of a better word. I've shared the reality with all of you; all I ask is that you go and investigate for yourself, and when you see the actual scam WITH YOUR OWN EYES make sure that you file a report to IC3 as well as send a message to the site admins. 'Nuff said... Sorry to be the buzzkill fellas.

No doubt Ashley Madison is the biggest scam in on-line dating. Don't sign up. I'm in Mpls, and there are only 20 woman in the area on the site....think of it....only 20 women. It's not worth it.

As noticed in a previous posting, there are some who feel that married guys who join sites like Ashley Madison do so only because they can

I am a female and have been a member of Ashley Madison since November 2008. I have talked with a lot of men on that site and some are actually normal. Real husbands that aren't having their sexual needs met by their wives anymore. I'm in the same situation with my husband and we've been through counseling, etc and nothing has improved. Since I found a lover on AM, I have to say my marriage has been better. I'm not stressed out about the fact that he doesn't want sex more than twice a month. My lover told me that his wife actually told him that she enjoyed hanging out with him over the weekend. There was not any tension there. No resentment for the lack of affection. We both love our spouses and don't want to get divorced. We have children and families that are very dear to us. I want to grow old with my best friend (my husband), but until then I also want a man to desire me for the woman I still am. My lover does that and more. Thank you Ashley Madison for saving my marriage and my sanity.

.. Alright, so I read all the warnings and I decided to take the chance on AM to see what all the fuss was about. After a month, here is what I found - now you can come to your own conclusion:

1) posted an ad as a Guest (ie. did not buy credits); shortly thereafter I got 5 winks from very nice-looking women (according to ther photos) who wanted to chat with me, but they were not FULL AM members.
2) I purchased credits so that I could "chat" with these women;
3) I sent each of them what I think would be a very intersting email.
4) None of them responded - but that was because none of them had signed into the system for 5+ days;
5) By putting them on the "List", I can tell when they did sign-in to see if they read my mail;
6) 4 of the 5 signed in at 10:18 AM on the same day (yes, all 4 at 10:18) and one at 10:20.
7)Yes, you are getting the picture here - none of them responded to my ad.
8) I created another "Guest ad" - identical profile - Wanna guess how many women sent me winks asking to chat if I can just sign up with AM?

Save the $$ boys; it's a recession out there - lets these bastardos go out of business.

I was very surprised knowing that dating sites for extramarital affairs existed. Knowing how the web is (and human nature) I shouldn't have been surprised at all. But, hey, I am not usually interested on cheating.

adultfriendfinder.com, or better yet, swinglifestyle.com are two that I have used and had very good success. No scams by the site owners, but the users cannot always be trusted, though.

The hard facts are these:

1. All of these sites have mostly men looking to get laid. Sorry guys, the odds are against you.
2. Women can get laid anytime they want, so why use a site at all?
3. Most women on sites (like the ones I listed above) are receptive of couples, not single guys, so unless you already have a women you probably are not going to get a ticket to the dance.

It seems to me that online sites to ease the trouble of finding someone to cheat on your spouse with should be a scam. No one wants to be in a loveless, sexless marriage. That's why the divorce rate is over 50% now. Let's be real though, if you are meeting up with random people you meet on the internet for sex, you obviously don't have any real respect for the institution of marriage anyway. Its creeps like you that make it hard for singles to trust anyone interested, regardless of their intentions. I gotta agree with Maddy, how are you gonna tell your spouse when you contract and STD?

Very obvious scam. I tried a Guest Membership. I received numerous "Collect" messages (for which one must purchase "credits" to read) from several women with different names from various cities, who, incredibly, happen to have the exact same picture...imagine that! All send identical to-the-letter message: "I've been trying to contact you, but you only have a guest membership" . Geez, how obvious; they don't even TRY to disguise the fact that the site as a fake.

Ashley Madison has been incredible....I travel and target the states I go to. It may take a month but soon you will get women sending you crotch shots, texting you all the time and wondering why you don't respond. I was looking for one and had 4 to chose from ...slept with each and found my long time lover...

Can't argue with sucess...

AM is basically a con. Sure there are some real women, but this is a side-effect of the scam, real people read the article in the news etc..

AM is a clever, soft-scam, no-one gets really hurt, or loses huge amounts of money. I'm truely an honest guy, but I can't help a sneeking repect for such cons.

I withold my bile for news sources such as the NY Times, which have published articles which, effectively, support the con. Whether they are fooled too, or a unscrupulous writer takes a bribe...

I'm also contemptuous for those posters who come over all old-testament on the 'adulterers' (Stone them why not). To the tiny minority who are truely satisified in their monogamy, or simply feel happier that way, and have expressed there bit of wisdom - I salute you - to the others .... you remind me for all the world of homophobes, driven by fear of their own latent homosexual urges - i.e. look inward first & get wise, rather than sling around the judgements.