Monster Crocodile in New Orleans

Michael Maffei sent me some giant crocodile pictures that have begun doing the rounds. They're accompanied by this caption:

Now this is a Crocodile ! This crocodile was found in New Orleans swimming down the street. 21 FT long, 4,500 lbs, around 80 years old minimum. Specialists said that he was looking to eat humans because he was too old to catch animals. This crocodile was killed by the army last Sunday at 3:00 pm, currently he is in the freezer at the Azur hotel. The contents of it's stomach will be analyzed this Friday at 2:30pm.

The pictures are real enough, but they're weren't taken in New Orleans. These are pictures of the Monster Crocodile of Pointe-Noire (in the Republic of the Congo). They've been circulating for over two years. David Emery notes that the crocodile was really estimated to be 16 feet long and weighed about 1874 lbs. That's still a lot bigger than I'd ever care to encounter.

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Posted on Fri Sep 16, 2005



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Sorry folks. It's a Big Ole' Lie.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_croc_new_orleans.htm
Posted by Jeff B.  on  Tue Sep 27, 2005  at  04:21 PM
There are so many moronic comments here that it's hard to contain myself...

THE TRUTH...FINALLY:

These pictures (and more) were taken at Pointe-Noire in the Republic of Congo (that's in Africa folks) on July 6, 2003 (and that's over two years before Katrina). It is/was a Nile Croc (that's right...a crocodile...NOT an alligator), was 16 feet and about 1900 pounds, and estimated to be ~50 year old. (Funny thing...they lied about its' size and age then too)

But don't take my word for it. Click on the link below and see for yourself...

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_pointe_noire_croc6.htm

Of course all of this information could be as erroneous as everything else, but at the least it shows that it is definitely not related to Katrina.
Posted by reh  on  Wed Sep 28, 2005  at  12:20 PM
How do you know that the three pictures are not real? The Croc looks mutated, as if it was to different pictures . Just so people know there is not a liecense plate on the back of the truck, all that you see are numbers. If people knew that the Croc was really dead then they would be calm cause they would know that it would not get them or anything. Any Way the point is that if you send a message to someone with out the information at the top of the screen then they will think that it is real... :coolsmile:
Posted by KJT  on  Wed Sep 28, 2005  at  02:51 PM
hey ppl if u noticed the picture isnt of a crocodile in new orleans its a different pic and they did find a croc and it was the one from the zoo
Posted by tyler  on  Wed Sep 28, 2005  at  07:35 PM
I think the Croc. Hunter is pissed off he couldn't get that sucker with he's bare hands...
Posted by Oh-Kami  on  Wed Sep 28, 2005  at  09:59 PM
Amazing that there are so many of you out there that are smart enough to figure this out, but dumb enough not to have good vocabulary. You're all losers!
Posted by Who cares  on  Thu Sep 29, 2005  at  11:25 AM
"People like you who yell save the Shark after a poor little 14 year old girl in florida gets half her body eaten by a shark! These creatures are fine when they are in there habitat, but I think that when human life is in danger because these monsters decide to flock to our habitat than they need to be killed!"

So, where did this girl in Florida get eaten by the shark? A crowded city street? Nope, I think it was the ocean, which is the habitat of sharks for a little bit under 400 million years. That is the result of us entering their habitat. Wanna swim where there are no sharks? Buy a pool. Same with people mauled by bears when they camp in forests, hikers attacked by cougars, natives snatched by crocodiles at river edges. Animals generally avoid human villages and such unless they have a problem (old, ill, injured). These are rarities known as rogues. Lions that stay at villages to hunt humans because they are weaker than normal prey. The Tsavo lions of the early 1900s would be a pristine example of this. The shark from 1916 off the coast of New Jersey that killed several people (and inspired Jaws) was thought to have been sick, explaining why it stuck so close to shore.

Regardless of that, the croc above is large for a Nile Crocodile, and if it were in the village, it was likely rogue, as well. This would endanger people, so thus, it was most likely killed out of defense. Nile Crocodiles in most of their range and most of their current extant subspecies are common, not even listed as being endangered. The Madagascar subspecies, which is smaller than the mainland populations, is considered threatened. If the animal was not rogue, it may have been suspected of killing someone from their village, leading to it being killed to be examined.
Posted by anonymous  on  Thu Sep 29, 2005  at  11:06 PM
who is the idiot woman who says the croc is not real. Everyone's is talking about how it is a big hoax that crocs aren't in louisiana and she busts up with: yeah, any normal human being wouldn't get anywhere close to something that big. yeah stupid, that's because its dead! any person with at least a 4th grade education can tell it's real, it just didnt come from New Orleans.
Posted by brandon  on  Fri Sep 30, 2005  at  09:00 AM
o, and then there's bill nye the science guy with all the information on sharks and crap and how it had to have had a disease, you moron, it doesnt have anything to do with sharks and cougars and stuff, its a hoax! the croc is real it just didnt get is from New Orleans, end of story!
Posted by brandon  on  Fri Sep 30, 2005  at  09:06 AM
Well then... First off, Nile crocs have been known to reach lengths of over 20', but they don't repeat DO NOT live on our continent, that's why they're called NILE crocodiles. It doesn't matter, though because we have all already heard the true story of where this croc came from. Now, as for all the people out there who do think this story is real...
YOU ARE ALL FRIGGIN MORONS! IT TOOK ME ABOUT 12 SECONDS OF CONTEMPLATION AFTER I HEARD ABOUT THIS (NOT SEEING ANY PICS, MIND YOU) TO REALIZE THAT SOMEBODY WAS YANKIN' MY GIRLFRIENDS FUCKING CHAIN.
Anyway, what does a cougar have to do with a crocodile?
Posted by Bradley  on  Fri Sep 30, 2005  at  10:36 PM
Regardless of the fact that I knew this was a crocodile and not an alligator and all of the other points made, there is still one thing that blatantly screams "this is a hoax!"

What am I referring to? Those black folk are not New Orleans. Look at the type of clothes they are wearing, not to mention if they were from the New Orleans projects, they would be hanging all over the gator throwing up gang signs acting like monkeys.

Racist comment, yeah, but it's the truth and the first thing that came to my attention becuse Lord knows we wish we could have civilized people like the ones in those pictures.
Posted by whocares  on  Sun Oct 02, 2005  at  09:26 AM
I said there were no crocs there but my co-workers said there were. I bought it to the point of being enraged that we idiot humans killed that big guy. Feel so much better now.....and no, I'm not blond.
Posted by k creed  on  Sun Oct 02, 2005  at  10:32 PM
hey,
dont you thank if its a huge croc like that, that it might just as well some equal or bigger then that one, and that they migt be headed to new oleans or are all ready there feeding off of the dead.
Posted by anthony  on  Mon Oct 03, 2005  at  09:28 PM
Oh well, makes for great bed time stories for the kiddies, you know like "Monster croc eats little kids when they're in bed asleep." Guaranteed to ensure extra bed partners at 2:00 a.m.
Posted by Bob  on  Tue Oct 04, 2005  at  07:38 AM
why would they mak up that they found a 21 foot gator/"croc" if it wasnt true it has to be. i dont know about you all but if this thing lived in a swamp all its life without any interruptions from us humans then no tellin how big he could get there might even be bigger things out there than that
Posted by kristy  on  Tue Oct 04, 2005  at  03:01 PM
Wow...some people say stupid things. I think this is an amazing creature. I believe that it is God's creature. And it's awesome that something that big could grow in the wild. But guess what, animal activists? God made people too, and he made us smarter than the animals. That's why when they try to kill us, we kill them. Don't like it? Then try going up against a huge croc like this, and just try telling me with a straight face that you would let it kill you before you killed it. Bullshit. Self defence is an instinct. So don't give me that all creatures are sacred bullshit. All creatures are sacred until they try to kill an animal that is better at killing than they are, in this case humans. If the animals were smarter than us, they'd be killing and eating you, but God was good enough to make us better.

And of course the story is a hoax. But I was happy to get the email because it gave me a chance to see a magnificent animal that I would otherwise never have known about, so everyone just stop bitching, please.
Posted by BenjiWenji  on  Tue Oct 04, 2005  at  10:20 PM
-The easiest give-away is the sticker on the truck that says 80/90. As the US still wors with Miles only it would mean that the truck is allowed to go 144 KMH. The dont even do that in NASCAR! LOL
Posted by Smartalec  on  Thu Oct 06, 2005  at  02:32 AM
This one is for Kristy who does not know how big the could get:

Alligator
Length: the American alligator Alligator mississippiensis can reach 15 feet (4.6 meters)
Weight: up to 1,000 pounds (454 kilograms)
Life span: 30 to 60 years

Crocodile
Length: largest
Posted by Smartalec  on  Thu Oct 06, 2005  at  02:35 AM
The Picture in itself let's you know something's up, However the best dead giveaway are the coloring of the script in the E-mail, and the person who originated it must really be an idiot, because he uses Alligator and Crocodile to describe the animal in the photos. What a friggin idiot.
Posted by Brian Suer  on  Thu Oct 06, 2005  at  07:45 AM
There is actually such thing as the American Crocodile (crocodylus acutus) however they are typically smaller than the american alligator, and are quite rare...
Posted by writer  on  Thu Oct 06, 2005  at  01:57 PM
this is all confused it says right there in the secound paragraph that his one in the pic was found in congo some one jus fuked up when they said monster croc it should say monster gator
Posted by douglas  on  Thu Oct 06, 2005  at  04:38 PM
the crocodile was carried down during during the hurricane by swimming with the strong currents the carried it to new orleans where it later lived and due to the fact that it was not capable of catching its own food it was convienant for it to feast on the dead bodies.
Posted by jeff  on  Sat Oct 08, 2005  at  03:12 PM
What kind of clown said that they should rehabilitate the crocodile. That has to be the stupidest thing i have ever heard. Yeah lets rehabilitate the thing that only know to kill. God what a moron. Its too bad the thing didnt eat them instead.
Posted by Thomas  on  Sat Oct 08, 2005  at  08:46 PM
All anyone with half a brain had to do is look at the picture to know it wasn't taken in New Orleans. Give me a break...Look at the buildings, people and vehicle...please!!! It's really pathetic that the public can be so easily led down the primrose path. I find it a bit scarey that people are so ready to believe anything they receive in e-mail, without even looking into it first. Cattle to slaughter...
Posted by Karen  on  Sun Oct 09, 2005  at  10:25 AM
Some of the comments are laughable!!! seriously choice in fashion has nothing to do with a croc eating a person,,, what does is hunger and opportunity.... further more statements about crocodiles in the states coming only from florida are also wrong , I've personally seen one in the ogeechee river in Georgia... So i would recon if there in ga, they could very well be in a few other southern states... also for those wondering some differences between alligators and crocodiles, i dont claim to be a exspert but visually croc's heads are pointier vs alligotors very very wide rounded head.... also crocs have higher scoups (the ridges on there backs) alligators are lower, also alligators are fairly dark colored creatures , and from what ive seen in zoo's and the 1 sightin in the ogeechee river croc's seem to me to be a bit lighter in color than alligators... And not that i know from exsperience or fact but ive heard there teeth differ to , but personally dont wanna get close enough to either to find out......
I also feel a great loss for this animal, and great sorrow that we as humans could not or would not use the technology we possess to try and capture this animal and create a safe habitat in captivity.... After all we do have nursing homes for our elderly, why not a old croc home for a animal that very well already had outlived most humans..... I hope whomever was involved in the death of this animal took great satisfaction in killing one of the last living dinosaurs!!! and for all you who will say it killed humans it had to die, i say we have murders in prision, why not a croc in captivity!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yall have a good day!!!
Posted by Georgia  on  Mon Oct 10, 2005  at  03:19 PM
Wow.... sounds like someone (see above) hit a nerve. I agree to some of his/her points, but this isn't politics. Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one and they stink!

As far as the hoax... wouldn't you think that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, or CNN would cover a story of a monster croc in New Orleans??? Some of you are probably saying,
Posted by Brad  on  Tue Oct 11, 2005  at  06:22 AM
Cruelty to animals , with a shoot first attitiude should hit a nerve with us all!!!! But then again
It doesnt suprise me the level of cruelty humans can inflict on lesser species, just look what we do to each other!!!! Anyways someone has to speak on behalf of the animals!

Just so ya know:
And as for as the stench in someones rear end ya might wanna try to wipe and use soap and water, should cut down on that stinch alot for ya...
And if proper hygene doesnt seem to do the trick ,ya might wanna check with a doctor something else could be wrong...
Have a nice day!!!!!
Posted by Georgia  on  Tue Oct 11, 2005  at  11:29 AM
in some former post there was a few people wanting to know differences between alligators and crocodiles, heres a site done at UGA that has a very good picture of a alligator a crocodile and a kamen all is a single picture...

http://www.uga.edu/srel/crocodile.htm

hope this helps!!!! Yall have a good one!!!
For other info on crocodiles , alligators , and other reptile species ya might wanna check out The Crocodile Hunter, Steve Erwins , at Austraila
Zoo... He seems to have a great fascination with these beautiful creatures as well.. Might be a good place to start.....
Posted by georgia  on  Tue Oct 11, 2005  at  12:06 PM
it is real im is 7th grade and i know that. besides my science teacher told me and showed the whole class those same three pictures. she even meashured 21 feet from one side of the room tho another. ITS REAL!
Posted by saidelis  on  Tue Oct 11, 2005  at  02:06 PM
7th grader,
Yes the pictures are real , but the were not taken in New Orleans , they were taken in the congo back in 2003, someone was playing a joke and reposted them and said they were in new orleans..... the crocodiles here in the state are much much much smaller species than those found in the nile river system, Austrailia and Africa,, No worrys about one that big here!!!
Posted by Georgia  on  Tue Oct 11, 2005  at  03:44 PM
BenjiWenji
News flash: Crocodiles do kill humans!!

And, although we may be smarter , wouldnt go as far as to say we are superior than creatures who have been around decades upon decades longer than ourselves, I mean think about all the animals in just the time that crocodiles//alligators have been on the earth that have died completly out, and the ones still to die out before the croc//alligator!! I mean deserves some sorta respect!!! For all you know they may even out live the human species!!
Posted by Georgia  on  Tue Oct 11, 2005  at  03:52 PM
alrighty lemme clear this here stuff up, I spent my whole life in Louisiana, and a family who traps alligators, first off this isn't an alligator it is a crocodile, there isn't any crocs in louisiana, there is a small breed of crocs in florida that are much smaller and shapped differently, I agree this is a really old animal, but its not from louisiana, its not an alligator, and those aren't reall soul brothers from New Orleans.....

--gumbo luvin fool,
geaux tigers!
Posted by Wayne "Coonass" Tabor  on  Tue Oct 11, 2005  at  10:05 PM
Yall are all full of crap, those are New Orleans folks. Louisiana folks are some of the most friendly people around. Make those comments about the color of there skin and makeing remarks that make them out to be like the people on the movie Water Boy is just childish and emature.
and one more thing, May la Bau tau Rou Lay
Posted by Brian  on  Wed Oct 12, 2005  at  07:13 AM
Dont know how many louisiana people you've seen!
But the people in the photo are clearly not !!!
Also theres another picture on another site were the licence plate is clearly visible and its clearly a tag from a foriegn country!! (like say o, The Congo, in Point-Noire) Anyways there are many many many different kinna people in New Orleans , From plaid, overall wearing backwoods people, to thug types, to men in business suits,, to the vodoo kinds, all the way down to you average day american blue colored workers..

Lousiana is a very nice place to visit, Just stay clear of martigra place turns into a made house, i only thought st. patricks day in savannah was crazy... Have great day!!
Posted by Georgia  on  Wed Oct 12, 2005  at  08:14 AM
what was in the stomach of the crocodile
Posted by Laiken  on  Thu Oct 13, 2005  at  08:08 AM
well, yeah, of course crocodiles kill humans. So do spiders. And mosquitoes. Hell, all of these animals might outlast us. But don't go telling me that they're superior to us. I think they're awesome animals, but if humans wanted to wipe out the entire species they sure could (not that it would be a good thing or even an ok thing, just saying it's possible).
Posted by BenjiWenji  on  Thu Oct 13, 2005  at  12:49 PM
I think in a way they are lying because it would be seen from all the planes that fly around I mean if he is that big I would notice something like that if i was in a plane and if nobody seen that then its no telling what else might be on this earth.
Posted by Tate  on  Thu Oct 13, 2005  at  11:29 PM
its just like gas prices it isn't doing nothin but making poor people poorer and making more crimes in areas because theres a lot of people in the united states that are having money problems and there really not making it now because they can't pay for gas because they got to pay there bills and they don't make it to work because they have no money for gas so they get fired because they had no ride to work so the goverment it just getting all the money he don't really know what hes doing to us because hes got it made becasue hes getting our money and i think i am speaking for everybody.
Posted by Tate  on  Fri Oct 14, 2005  at  12:02 AM
No, Tate, if you were speaking for everybody, you'd be coherent.
Posted by Boo  on  Fri Oct 14, 2005  at  03:14 AM
Look at the picture closely and bear in mind that crocs have long slender snouts and and gators have short stubby snouts. view other pictures on the web also.
Posted by MacDyver  on  Fri Oct 14, 2005  at  04:36 AM
im into all this giant reptile things i really like aliigators and crocs
Posted by Jose  on  Fri Oct 14, 2005  at  10:29 AM
Uh, Tate, just out of curiosity, what the f*ck are you talking about? You make no sense at all. How is a Giant Crocodile hoax in any way like rising gas prices? If you could just point out like one similarity, or even something that isn't a similarity but maybe a correlation of some kind, everyone would be much obliged. Thank you.
Posted by BenjiWenji  on  Fri Oct 14, 2005  at  02:43 PM
I used to live in Louisiana and for some one to make this mistake on a reptile that does not even habitat this southern region is plain stupid. What A Hoax!!! It's not even an Alligator you Dumb A@*%s!!! ITS A FRIGGEN CROC!!! What did school teach you? Especially those who live in Louisiana for buying this BS!
Posted by Keith Kiser  on  Mon Oct 17, 2005  at  11:51 AM
Who ever was talking about the plates, there are no plates on this vehicle. If you are referring to the "80" and "90" in the white circles....that's not a license plate. Otherwise, I don't see what anyone is talking about on that.
As far as "not standing next to the croc if it were truly real, IT'S DEAD! If you look in the supposed article, it says that it's being kept in the freezer and they will be examining the stomache for it's contents. Whether this is a hoax or not, it still may be a real croc anyway, just not in the right area. Also, you have to keep in mind the possibility that it could be real. There was a hurricane and things including live things could have been swept out of its origin. Secondly, even if the trucks plates were indeed not NOLA or American doesn't mean anything, people from many places came to help out there. who's to say no one from S.A. came up here, who knows what their plates look like. You just never know, but why rule out anything?!?!?!
Posted by Ren  on  Mon Oct 17, 2005  at  04:19 PM
you know its sad that so many unexplainable things are going on in the world today.you dont know what to believe.things that are happening now were so far fetched even 15 years ago.i knew the crocodile was real so i just believed the story for a minute too.my first thought was how many fisherman has this thing munched on?then i went to my t.v. and turned on fox news. nothing about a crocodile,so i knew it was bogus then.whoever did this should find a better way to entertain themselves than turning a tragic situation into humor.
Posted by laura williams  on  Mon Oct 17, 2005  at  10:43 PM
dude. you cannot "rehabilitate" a prehistoric eating machine with a brain the size of a pea. what are you gonna do? read him his Miranda Rights and send him to therapy?

that's a croc (literally). its big, its dumb, it eats and it sleeps. and it tends to be territorial and return to its territory even after you move it someplace else. when it threatens people, you kill it.
Posted by .....  on  Thu Oct 20, 2005  at  11:11 PM
"This crocodile was killed by the army last Sunday at 3:00 pm, currently he is in the freezer at the Azur hotel. The contents of it's stomach will be analyzed."

If the Army killed it why aren't there any Military around? and I have been trying my best to find this motel and the only one's I find are in the Congo and France.
Posted by Mike  on  Fri Oct 28, 2005  at  01:58 PM
Living in croc country all my life (Northern Territory and North Western Australia). I wondered how an Australian croc ended up so far away from home.They travel around but not that far.It supprised me because one that big would have already set themselves up within a river system as the dominant male and being that big would have no rivals or natural preditors. I did see one that big the other day on the fitzroy river so I did'nt go fishing.
Posted by gordon  on  Tue Nov 08, 2005  at  06:05 AM
Figures. From the dress of the people in the photo, you know it's not in New Orleans, and seems military wouldn't miss a chance for credit, in which they'd SURELY be in the photo.

Meanwhile, I'll be drinking Absinthe (http://absinthe.protoprotoss.net) so I can illusion all this stuff attacking me and I have reason to run.... or stay intoxicated.
Posted by Drunken_Bastard  on  Wed Nov 09, 2005  at  08:55 PM
Actually, there are crocs in North America, and they are small saltwater crocs, often living around mangroves in the salt. I have seen 4 or 5 on fishing trips in Mexico, and trust me, these are no gators.
Posted by bill  on  Fri Nov 18, 2005  at  08:25 AM
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