Fake Stigmata Controversy

During the 20th century, Padre Pio was one of the most famous and popular Catholic monks. He died in 1968 and was made a saint by Pope John Paul II in 2002. He was recently declared the Patron Saint of New Year Blues.

Pio was particularly famous for the supernatural phenomena associated with him. In particular, stigmata were said to have mysteriously appeared on his hands and feet. But a new book argues that Pio faked his stigmata:
a book called Padre Pio and the Italy of the 19th Century, by historian Sergio Luzzatto says the wounds were self-created using carbolic acid and he claims to have found documentary evidence to prove it in the Vatican's secret archives.

According to Wikipedia, this is hardly the first time charges of fakery have been leveled against Pio:
His accusers included high-ranking archbishops, bishops, theologians and physicians.
They brought several accusations against him, including insanity, immoral attitude towards women - claims that he had intercourse with women in the confessional (However, the same priest who accused Pio of these sexual acts later recanted his story and repented on his death bed.), misuse of funds and deception - claims that the stigmata were induced with acid in order to gain fame—and that the reported odor of sanctity around him being the result of self-administered eau-de-cologne.
The founder of Rome's Catholic university hospital concluded Padre Pio was "an ignorant and self-mutilating psychopath who exploited people's credulity." In short, he was accused of infractions against all three of his monastic vows: poverty, chastity and obedience.
In 1923, he was forbidden to teach teenage boys in the school attached to the monastery because he was considered "a noxious Socrates, capable of perverting the fragile lives and souls of boys."

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Posted on Fri Oct 26, 2007



I am not a theist, so I won't comment about your views on your deity. A friend of mine just forwarded me this site because she wanted to make a point about the unexplained supernatural occurrences which I do not believe exist.

For someone who is a theist your claims may be very valid, I was just posting from non-theistic perspective on something supernatural as if the two can be reconciliable. I guess I showed my friend that agnostics cannot convinced of anything supernatural regardless what the claim may be.

Thanks for your reply.

Posted by Elena  in  USA  on  Mon Aug 03, 2009  at  09:23 PM

Yes, I was assuming that the comment about the "wrong locations" of the stigmata marks was a person who believed in a personal God but did not believe in the supernatural occurances associated with Padre Pio.

For someone who does not accept the existance of a personal God, then, of course, my argument would miss the mark.

I think your conclusion that "the person inflicting the marks was being guided by the Roman Catholic Church images" is worthy of discussion (although I personally think it is incorrect)

I don't think it's impossible to convince agnostics of ALL supernatural occurances. The agnostics that I know are open to new information.

Posted by Rob  on  Tue Aug 04, 2009  at  07:22 AM
What redeeming quality comes with a person who has holes in their hands? How does that at all aid in the salvation of sinners? The Holy Spirit is the vessel in which people are transformed, not miracles. Miracles are no longer needed since we have the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Miracles were performed by God through the Apostles during the Early Church to bring unbelievers to Christ. After the New Testament was completed and the Apostolic Age ended, there has been no need for outward signs and miracles. The power of the Holy Spirit is sufficient in calling the elect to repentance.
Posted by Matthew  in  Virginia  on  Sun Nov 22, 2009  at  03:48 AM

After the Holy Spirit came to Jesus' disciples at Pentecost were not miracles still performed by God through the Apostles?

Posted by Rob  on  Sun Nov 22, 2009  at  08:16 AM
On padre Peo and saints (and MY GOD!) in general, I live in Sri Lanka, have an illegal building next door approved by a top dog in Government. A major general who broke down my boundary wall, slept on floors and washed my daughters face with toilet cistern water (courtesy the army general's wife who also disconnected my water supply), the only help I got was from his truly Padre Peo, St Anthony (recently found my lost glasses in a bed of leaves), Mother Mary, (snakes in my garden an oasis of coconut trees, silent and still now the frogs croak), factually provable, faith unproveable except that, I do believe, therefore good things do happen despite all scientific provings to the contrary and all the stuff given by the non-believers under the guise of "technical reality". What is reality, it is what you see in your life. To others its unbelievable.
So many instances in my life, all proving the existence of some beings who help since Man fails most often.
Posted by andrea brito babapulle  in  Sri Lanka  on  Wed Nov 25, 2009  at  06:39 PM
Hi- I am doing research on Padre Pio and would love to discuss this - I am hoping to get in touch with Thomas Peluso of Pennslyvania for an interview. Any one else with expertise in this subject, please email me at: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Thank you!!!
Posted by Jill  in  Chicago  on  Tue Dec 08, 2009  at  09:56 AM
Hi:).. what Brett says is true about the Christians behaving in a most unchristian -like manner. Not a great bible reader myself but somewhere within is "if religion causes conflict, then walk away from it" because opinions will always differ.
On the matter of saints and the Holy Spirit... It is very unfortunate that in our part of the world, Asia, the majority of people are non-christian, and non-believers, and I feel that the Saints and the like are used by, in my belief, the creator to bring people of different religions under his roof and therefore under his care.. In a country where there are 75% Buddhist, and the rest a mix of Muslim, Hindu, churches of all kinds of saints, plus latter day, and assembly of God, Jehovah's witnesses etc. all these nominations proceed to for example, St. Anthony's church to get relief from their stolen and very physical possessions, and the items are restored to them. So in the midst of their meanderings to find a lost item, they have found an avenue to our god, via our saints.

The Holy Spirit is only known to the Catholics.. maybe the Christians but what of the others? not too well known as the ones who provide some comfort in the recovery of their lost goods.

They do say that God does work in mysterious ways.. so who are we to question.. as much as those who don't believe in Mary and her chaste delivery of Jesus.. can also knock God's choice of a mother for his son.. That again only to those who know our religion. So as long as whatever path brings whomever to the redeemer.. the end result is an achievement in his plan.. VAT - Value Added Totality = the un-perished bodies of the saints, why were they preserved? And why too are they bound to the Christian faith?
Actual people, encased in glass, a salutation to our faith, since there are none in any other faith. And the Bible readers who say that anyone who does not say "jesus" is condemned.. then too, like many of those who have expressed themselves in this page, there isn't a man or woman who leads a good life who will not be condemned, not because he is a good man, but because he fails to say "Jesus".. I think our God is a compassionate being, therefore the doors are open to all, even those who do not say "Jesus" and do not pray to the Holy Spirit because they know no different.
Posted by andrea brito babapulle  in  Sri Lanka  on  Thu Dec 10, 2009  at  03:35 PM
One subject that bothers me besides these saints who DO HELP.. is.. after watching so many movies (American).. most of the more violent, bloody, pain giving, horrible, torture-some, vindictive, humiliating acts ever done to man by man appears to be in America.. Bundy.. Manson.. the more recent shocker (probably old news .. Tate? murders where there stomachs were cut and they were left to bleed, in pain and agony "is someone here" and leads to masked killers (both men and women) inflicting agony to others which the killers seem to enjoy and continue to do; also the Muslim torture on American Captured soldiers.. Gruesome.Nothing religious nor stigma associated with these one hopes. In Buddhist countries.true there are murders.. but its a clean kill (though killing it is).. I guess more reason to pray for another day without any of this.. and finally each to his own and God for us all..
Posted by andrea brito babapulle  in  sri lanka  on  Tue Feb 23, 2010  at  12:08 PM
What a fascinating trail!

As an atheist who is married to a practising Roman Catholic (yes we have some fun times?), we have learnt to live with each others position, even though we may not accept or understand it. My wife has stopped trying to convert me and I have stopped trying to use factual or evidential based reasoning when considering matters relating to my wife
Posted by Lee Brown  in  New Zealand  on  Tue Mar 02, 2010  at  04:55 AM
Hello... I am very happy for you and I am also happy that you have a contented married life where you have both agreed to disagree.. God bless you for that:)..nice response .. heartily agree with you..
Posted by andrea brito babapulle  in  sri lanka  on  Tue Mar 02, 2010  at  06:03 AM
To Lee Brown,

Although I disagree with you, your email is sincere and well written. However, I was bothered by your statement, "So, of course this Padre Pio case is one of self harm."

Why are atheists always jumping at ONE solution for everything? Even if you don't belief that there might be a supernatural involvement, why don't you consider non-supernatural psychological causes or unknown physical causes?

I personally believe Pio's case is a wonderful example of the workings of God. To the atheists out there I say that there is nothing that makes your preception of the World any more valid than mine.

Perhaps C.S. Lewis said it best when he wrote:

"If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents--the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else's. But if their thoughts--i.e. of materialism and astronomy--are merely accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents.
Posted by Rob  in  USA  on  Tue Mar 02, 2010  at  06:41 AM
I am glad that you are able to work out your relationship with your wife even thou you are both from different school of thoughts. As an agnostic I have to agree with you in the fact that there is no evidence for the existence of the supernatural. And agree that it is indeed possible that Padre Pio was suffering from a psychological illness. It has been documented that patients with multiple personality disorders are even able to change the color of their eyes. While one may immediately think this is impossible, it has been documented nevertheless with psychiatric patients. How is it that even thou our eye color is engrained in our genes and is pretty much unchangeable without artificial devices or as a result of an illness, patients suffering from multiple personality disorders can indeed do this? Perhaps before we immediately jump to the unsubstantiated supernatural conclusion we should delve more into the labyrinths of the mind. We are recently starting to make great discoveries into how our brain works. Scientist have even isolated the part of the brain that deals with beliefs, such as those of supernatural deities. Beliefs have nothing to do with reasoning and more to do with emotions. While agnostics can see all the inherent flaws in the believer
Posted by Elena  in  New York, USA  on  Tue Mar 02, 2010  at  09:21 AM
By reading all the correspondence, just thought I must share with you what I experienced recently.

I was not a great believer of Padre Pio and never could understand why my aunt was so heavily into praying to Padre Pio who is now a Saint.

So on a day in March 2010, I goggled to read more about Fr. Pio - mainly because of one question our Parish priest asked, "have you read about Padre Pio? He had several gifts given by the Holy Spirit, in one person. For example Saint Pio could say the hidden sins of those who came for confessions".

Intrigued by this, I started reading about Padre Pio. I found several websites that provide experiences of other people with Saint Pio before and after his death (both).

So I started reading about his life and the more I read, the more I learnt about the life of Christ, Guardian Angels etc and how they feel about our actions. So I began praying to Saint Pio (always feel like calling him as Padre Pio)
About 2 days ago (in April 2010), after confession, I went near the statue of Saint Pio in our church. With a heart filled love for him, I am sure given by Jesus, I prayed to him asking for his help to repent for my sins genuinely. I felt a sensation in my head & shoulder area that felt like cold-air splashing. Disbelieving as I am, I looked up to see if I am standing under an air-con duct, but there was none. I felt this only while I stood under this statue of Saint Pio. Touched by what happened, I left in a hurry as I had to pick up my Children.

I want to test his existence even today, as claimed by one parent whose child was in a coma and who started praying to Padre Pio (1999), where the child came off the coma. Taking this opportunity, I want to pray with Saint Pio for healing for the child I met today who has been paralyzed for 2 years after being in a coma and where the doctors have confirmed that there is no cure.

Am I wasting time?
Posted by Nicholas  in  Richmond Hill  on  Sun Apr 11, 2010  at  12:18 AM
This is what happens when people do not know what multiple personality disorders are. The mind is very powerful indeed. There has been documented cases of patients that have changed the color of their eyes during one pernality to blue and under another personality their eye color returns to brown. How can this be if eye color is genetical? Is called we still don't know how capable our brains are? Another case was that of Dr. Bennet Braun of the International Society for the Study of Multiple Personality, in Chicago, who has documented a case in which all of a patient's subpersonalities were allergic to orange juice, except one. If the man drank orange juice when one of his allergic personalities was in control, he would break out in a terrible rash. But if he switched to his nonallergic personality, the rash would instantly start to fade and he could drink orange juice freely.

Other conditions that can vary from personality to personality include scars, burn marks, cysts, and left- and right-handedness. Visual acuity can differ, and some multiples have to carry two or three different pairs of eyeglasses to accommodate their alternating personalities.

If you study the mind you become an agnostic like myself. The only God there is, is our very powerful evolved brain capable of all these things. Too bad multiple personalities is a disease and not an actual gift because the patients do not have control of when they switch from one personality to the other. If they did, it could be the next step for human kind.
Posted by Elle  in  NY  on  Fri Jun 04, 2010  at  04:13 PM
Yes, indeed, we have "very powerful evolved brain[s] capable of all these things." We are also capable of imagining all kinds of reasons why the supernatural is not real. For people who have preconceived notions why Padre Pio's gift's are not genuine, I say: Prove it! Don't give me your theories, give me proof!
Posted by Rob  on  Fri Jun 04, 2010  at  05:26 PM
Let peace resume, there will be the believers and non believers, and to each his own and God for us all. It is said in the bible and unfortunately I am not that avid a reader but got it from a "holier than thou" bible reader, who said quote"if religion is a cause of dissention, then walk away", also there will be prophets both false and true who will be sent to earth during the time when Mankind needs it most, so we have the Buddha (people call him Lord), Jesus (and he is the son of God), then Prophet Mohammed, as there was John the Baptist, and our conversions of the truth because a man wants to marry many (henry the 8th), and proof of some living effigies (Therese, etc AND Padre Peo) why are their bodies saved when everyone else perishes? A sign of the existence of the one true belief? Modern times,(and olden times, the Egyptian mummies only bones), knew of no method to preserve the bodies (even the peat bogs had some form of decomposition).Thus we only have to go with evidence and reports of miracles, and no matter how many sins or idiocies anyone may commit to make himself/herself appear to be what he is not, the proving comes from a) the bodies themselves and b) the miracles that happen and there are plenty of saints who have performed various benevolent acts for people (with faith) besides Padre Peo and who continue to do so, despite the lack of bodies unperished. By the way, all these people have not lived exemplary lives except for their constant prayers to the divine. Let it all rest. Mud slinging certainly does not help anyone, it only causes heart burn and a lot of time on the internet:).
Posted by Andrea Brito Babapulle  in  Sri Lanka  on  Fri Jun 04, 2010  at  11:04 PM
Unfortunately, Padre Pio is not alive in order to test him for multiple personality disorder. However, I do not have to present proof because the burden of proof is upon the person making the statement in this case "stigmata". The same way the burden of proof weights upon the person making the statement that there is a God to begin with. So since you cannot prove a negative "skepticism of God" the burden of proof falls upon the person stating that God is real and that stigmatas are indeed real. There is enough proof out there of what people suffering from multiple personality disorders can do, however there is no proof whatsoever that daddy deities in the sky exist and that stigmatas are indeed a supernatural event rather than a product of the mind. If the mind is capable of making one person have a different eye color under one personality and a different under another one, it would have no problem making some holes appear in someone's hand, especially when they are in the wrong place to begin with as we all know that during Roman times people were crucified by the wrists and not the palms. Seems to me that Padre Pio's mind got the old myth
Posted by Elle  in  NY  on  Sat Jun 05, 2010  at  03:38 PM
Very true, it is difficult to prove the existence of God. Okay, let God aside. I will give you evidence of a power beyond that of man, and one hopes that this is the God that, at least, I believe in (as much as I do Padre Peo) and it stems from personal experience. I would also ask you to look at my previous entries here and they relate to a country that has Buddhism as a majority and Rent Acts (alien to most other countries), and Housing and Property Laws (also alien)and parasites who thrive off others. 27 Court cases against people profiting off man (all wins, settlements and ejections - no I am not a lawyer, yes I am a negotiator)in a system which is weighted in favor of the squatter.My daughter (now aged 18) almost died of Dengue fever, at least given 48 hours to live. Her veins had collapsed, she was bleeding internally, in every organ of her body. Instead of a vigil I went to every church in Colombo and through the network, asked for prayer. The doctor said "this is a miracle child" because she survived. I also prayed to Padre Peo, and to St. Jude and to the Saints known for their efficacy in curing terminally ill patients. Faith true, but without a superior being that hears your prayers, who else is there? Stories abound in my life to prove the existence of a person (being) who cares. I guess you must have this personal experience otherwise you will not believe:).
Posted by Andrea Brito Babapulle  in  Sri Lanka - now out of a 30 year terrorist war  on  Sat Jun 05, 2010  at  07:18 PM

Don't you think that the term "daddy deities in the sky" is rather condescending? Why would you seek to ridicule the faith of billions of Christians, Moslems, Jews and people of other religions who believe in God.

On this board last year I wrote the following to Elenaq. Is that you? Did you read it?

From last August regarding the location of Pio's wounds:
That really does not prove anything. At the time the marks appeared on Padre Pio in 1918 no one knew of the information that you mention - it was discovered later. Thus, if God had placed the marks on Padre Pio's wrists, Pio would have been considered a fake! God placed the marks in the place where people of the time thought they should appear.

You write like a very intelligent person. It is time for you to advance to the next level. Level One: Ignorance. Level Two: the people who have come to reject religion because it does not match their definition of 'rational.' Often these people are persuaded by college professors who have been stuck on level two for a lifetime or a very long time. And, the third level: people who realize that we DO NOT KNOW everything. We are like the ant on the floor making pronouncements as if he was a god. Surely it is more logical to believe in a creator God than it is to think we are gods. Shakespeare's Hamlet said: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

Aspire to this third level my friend. For, indeed, there are more things than are dreamt of in your Formicidae philosophy.
Posted by Rob  in  USA  on  Sun Jun 06, 2010  at  11:16 AM
I see that "Elle" has written this: "If you study the mind you become an agnostic like myself. The only God there is, is our very powerful evolved brain capable of all these things." This reminds me of what Padre Pio once said to someone who thought his stigmata were self-induced because of his meditations on Christ's Passion. Padre Pio told him to visit a pasture and meditate on a bull's horns, and see if he starts growing horns!
In other words Elle, since you are a self-avowed student of the powers of the mind, I am sure it will be no problem for you to give yourself the stigmata at will, using the powers of your evolved brain, which is the "only God there is" according to you. Please let us know how it works out.
Posted by Frank Rega  in  Delaware, USA  on  Sun Jun 06, 2010  at  12:51 PM
Frank, actually since it is possible to have self-induced physical reactions as we have already observed I will have to say that such thing is possible. However, do you have to condition your mind very throughly in order to achieve this. Since I don't want bull horn's nor like them nor revere them it would be very difficult for me to get into the stage of wanting them. However, had I had multiple personality disorders (an uncontrolled mental illness) I'd say that whatever the personality would deem as "appropiate" such I would have. We have already recorded multiple personality disorder patients where one of the personalities possess a quantifiable illness while the other personalities do not. However, the key word here is that although these are controlled by the mind they are not consciously controlled therefore the patient does not have conscious control when to switch one personality off instead of another one.
Posted by Elle  in  New York, USA  on  Mon Jun 07, 2010  at  07:53 AM
You have just stated what is a self validating belief. Which is based on circularity rather than presenting evidence. Calling the opponent un-enlightened because they do not believe in your position is just a strawman. Rather than attacking the position why don't you present evidence instead. I do not claim to have evidence that "daddy deities in the sky" (i.e. God, Zeus, Allah, various gods or what have you, there are so many gods that the term daddy deities is inserted in order to include all of them not to be condescending, as you may be aware there are still pagan who believe in various gods which are not the God of the Bible) do not exist, but I don't claim to have evidence that they do. So far I am just requesting evidence. And stick to the same premise that Thomas Jefferson did:

Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear. Thomas Jefferson
Posted by Elle  in  New York, USA  on  Mon Jun 07, 2010  at  08:19 AM

You reply:

"...daddy deities is inserted in order to include all of them not to be condescending, as you may be aware there are still pagan who believe in various gods which are ..."

Wow! You are condescending (in saying "you may be aware ... like I might not be aware there are pagans!) even when you, in the same sentence, state you are not condescending about something else!

Then you mention many names for deities but that is just confusing the issue. One half of the people in the World are either Christian or Moslem. They believe in the God of the Bible. There would be even more except the anti-God totalitarian governments of the 20th century used "blindfolded fear" to outlaw religion in some of the largest countries of the world. You should read a little about what atheists do when they achieve total power in a country. The Inquisition and Sharia law pale in comparison.
Posted by Rob  on  Mon Jun 07, 2010  at  08:57 AM
Actually there is a difference between organic atheism and what you believe atheism is. Studies have found that the wealthier a nation is the highest the level of organic atheism is in such nation. It just goes to show that atheism would be the most advanced level in our society if it is that we wish to improve of course.

Indeed, countries containing high percentages of non-believers are among the most healthy and wealthy nations on earth (Paul, 2004). Of course, we must always distinguish between those nations where non-belief has been forced upon the society by dictators (
Posted by Elle  in  New York, USA  on  Mon Jun 07, 2010  at  01:23 PM
You state that the "wealthier a nation is the highest the level of organic atheism is in such nation"

And you state:
"It just goes to show that atheism would be the most advanced level in our society if it is that we wish to improve of course.
Posted by Rob  on  Sun Jun 13, 2010  at  10:03 AM
Rob, actually nations did get better economically by leaving the old Biblical myths behind. Take the issue of women's equality and slavery. Slavery and women inequality is supported by the Bible, therefore it was only when people started to dismiss those points of view that they actually started to succeed as a nation. Our founding fathers were not too religious, neither is this country if you think about all the liberties that we have which fundamentally go against the Bible. That people may believe in a God does not necessarily mean that they are following the Bible teachings. As for morality, like I said even in the Bible morality is relative. If you compare the Old Testament to the New Testament you will see the difference. The Bible advocates slavery, so is slavery immoral or moral? For my time I consider it immoral, had I been born back couple of centuries ago, I would probably have different thoughts. As for Netherlands again morality is relative.

We are not going to see eye to eye on this issue because you have been raised to believe morality is fixed and absolute when it is not. We justify killing in wars and to defend ourselves however we do not justify individual acts of violence that goes again the rules established by our society. We developed this rules because we are a social species and as a consequence we need to ensure order and civilization. Everything in the animal kingdom has a balance. We kill other animals for food, so do you think yourself better than a cow or a plant. I sure don
Posted by Elle  in  New York, USA  on  Mon Jun 14, 2010  at  03:05 PM
I must say that you are rather dogmatic in support of relative morality.

You state:

"We are not going to see eye to eye on this issue because you have been raised to believe morality is fixed and absolute when it is not."

I can just as rightly reply:

"you have been raised to believe morality is NOT fixed and absolute when it IS."

How is your assertion any more valid than mine? Answer: It's not.

Actually, I rather think you were not raised that way. but you probably were overly influenced by your professors in college.

By the way, a couple of factual mistakes in your reply:

1. There are many cases in the Netherlands of children being killed AFTER birth for reasons of euthanasia. If you would like sources for this statement, I would be happy to locate them.

2. Euthanasia is legal in the Netherlands. Assisted suicide is legal in Oregon.
Posted by Rob  on  Mon Jun 14, 2010  at  08:32 PM
The trouble with trying to put a number on how many atheists there are in the world,is atheism means different things to different people.

There are the
Posted by Kiwi John  in  New Zealand  on  Sat Jun 26, 2010  at  02:30 AM
" the proof of love is to suffer for the one you love"
religion is not based upon facts but your faith believing in something that is not based on proof.
i believe in padre pios stigmata regardless of proof if someone needs proof i believe all his miracles are proof enough. i do not know why god gives these painful wounds but i am merely human. who am to fathom what my gracoius lord does. i have no need to argue no need to disbelieve but to only have faith and trust in the lord.
god bless everyone
Posted by jasmin  in  ga  on  Thu Aug 12, 2010  at  05:11 PM
HI;).I always say each to his own and God for us all, and my brother also says "May your God go with you" and if you have none, then bless you too:). akin to a sneeze; merely a message of good will. The church in Sri Lanka (if I am not wrong in Athurugiriya) is built to call the devout believers who have received the blessings of their dearest wishes being resolved, settled; personal and matrimonial affairs tidied up; children recovering; marriages about to fray, bonded; murderers found; money returned; jobs and businesses improving; financial losses recovered; to give credence to their Saviour and his tool - Padre Peo who have helped them (the seekers, not of faith but of misery) in their various difficulties. As to the stigmata and padre Peo's self-infliction, and to the various dignitaries who scorned the man and now "alleged cult behavior", even Jesus had his day when he was mocked, scorned and scourged by those in rank and power, but he still stood strong. Now we have evidence from people that Padre Peo's aid to the afflicted is just not a figment of a persons imagination, but a factual proving that he is a being who is providing some help to those less fortunate in the name of Jesus. As much as Jesus is to the believers and to those who call upon him for help and sustenance. Every channel of energy, as long as it returns to God (and despite those who do not believe in his existence)is acceptable and the energy is the seeker of the truth, not those who condemn and criticise because they are uncertain; these people will never see because they are already biased in their opinions. An open mind is an open soul, thus giving freedom to receive any messages that one gets in whatever direction is being made for you. Therefore the message here is "who came first, the chicken or the egg". I say, the chicken had the first cockrel within, therefore the beginnings of its race. In Padre' Peo's case. I think it is the provings of people and their solace that add value to the man as it was with Jesus himself, the provings of his existence and of what he did and does to day for man, that add value to our faith. Without him, then I guess, we will be like the rest, going after prophets until we get to know really what is the truth:).. God Bless..
Posted by Andrea Brito Babapulle  in  Sri Lanka with a new church dedicated to Padre Peo  on  Fri Aug 13, 2010  at  03:48 AM
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