At
RoyalChild.com Sarah and Brent Hinze investigate Prebirth Experiences. They define these as when
"a parent, sibling, aunt, uncle, or grandparent, etc., receives communication from a child before she is born, or in many cases, before he was even conceived." I hadn't heard of this particular variety of psychic (or spiritual) phenomenon before. It seems like a strange offshoot of past-life communication... except that instead of talking with people who once existed, you're communicating with people who are waiting to exist in the future. My question is: what if a 'parent' communicates with their child-to-be, but then they end up never having a child. Who, then, were they chatting with? Would the Hintzes define this as an imposter pre-birth experience? (via
Holy Weblog)
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Ai - thanks for your story. Yours is similar to mine - I didn't want to be born either (or go to earth), but I was more dreading it and fearful than angry. Obviously, you were angry.
Did you have a sense that you had to be born, and go to earth, in order to learn lessons? To me the "hole" you describe, may have been the tunnel that I traveled through - to get into my fetal body. Do you think you entered the hole to get to earth? Your story of having to choose your life (hole) rings true to me, and many accounts I have read have people(souls) making a choice of which life to live - before they were born.
Hi Cranky - I know you are placing a lot of emphasis on physical organs, and also on what people believe. I can only tell you with utmost truthfulness and sincerity, that I visually remember my experiences pre-birth, just like any other memory I have - even of Obama and McCain. I "believe" that evolution occurred, but I have no memory of it (nor does any other sane person on earth). Beliefs and memories are very different. However, I do have pre-bitrh memories.
I cannot explain how or why. The very fact that ohers do have similar memories, even in Austria, is very strange, at the very least. I wish the person from Australia would write something again, because I think my memories might be similar to his/hers. Thanks!! Chris
What I have read on the web (and also remember) is that your soul enters your body before birth. It is the soul that can remember things without a physical body or mature brain. I know that sounds crazy, but it is what happened to me. Also, from reading items on the web, some accounts explained to me why I could rememeber being outside of my fetal body at times and could see things around me. If you read about pre-birth "stories" it supposidly takes a while for the soul to "meld" with the physical body, pre-birth and perinatally, and postnatally. So, the fetus could be immature neuologically, but memories are maintained by the soul. I know this "body" and "soul" businees must seem so silly, but, had I not had my experiences, I might also dismiss the accounts. You can only tell you the truth .
I always try to - believe me it is my personality type to do so ... Thanks for listening ...
I doubt that Ai read my previous message and went to the link I posted previously on this website : http://www.beyondreligion.com/su_personal/pbes-heaven.htm.
Don't you think it is weird that the account on the website above stated:
"We were standing in front of some kind of opening that looked almost like the mouth of a cave. ... Then I noticed that there was an individual who was going to escort me into the cave-like structure. Perhaps this is the same tunnel that NDE people recall. I believe that we have to go through that same tunnel to be born.
I remember entering this dark tunnel and being escorted by a being who also exuded love and peace. I noticed the presence of others in the tunnel also, but could not see what they were doing. Finally, I remember looking at my small body, and next thing I remember, I was being born."
By the way, I also remember something almost exactly similar - and I don't do mind altering drugs, etc... (Ha Ha)!
"What I have read on the web (and also remember) is that your soul enters your body before birth. It is the soul that can remember things without a physical body or mature brain. I know that sounds crazy, but it is what happened to me."
Well, if you read it on the web, it MUST be true. I mean, we all know that nothing on the Internet is false.
At one point, you quote Ai's "pre-birth memory" and talk about how similar it is to yours as evidence of the reality of the alleged phenomenon.
But earlier, you said:
"Also, not everyone's pre-birth memories are the same. I did not see streets of gold, or magnificent buildings in heaven, as some claim to have experienced (search the web for their stories). Most of the areas that I remember were dark. However, when I've read similar stories, I can tell I was in the same place that others were.
(very freaky ..!)"
There, you are saying that the fact that other people's "pre-birth experience" is DIFFERENT from yours proves their legitimacy.
Which is it?
Even if god was real would not he do something to say sorry? if he doesnt he is just like people who do bad things at people and never say sorry! i just do not want to be one of the people he can play with. i am not a fucking toy where someone can play with. i do not want to learn those lessons. "if god was real" i hope i have my personality still in "heaven" i will tell him what he does to individuals who does not remember it. Because at this moment, people are not longer supposed to learn lessons. Humans are humans and not souls. Souls are getting supported. Humans not really. So you can say god is bullying us...
I am busy right now, so i will send more what i think later
(me, if i would belive in god, but i do not belive in god)
OK - Cranky - yes, from what I have read, people's pre-birth experiences can be different. However, mine matches with many people's accounts, and it seems to me that it is a matter of how much a person is able to recall. As I have emphasized, the multiple similarities one finds when reading the accounts, i.e. - communicating telepathically with spiritual beings or guides, seeing earth from above, seeing a life preview in a book and/or projected on TV like screens, selecting your life, having your memory erased, passing through a tunnel (or cave) before birth, floating outside of your fetal body, etc., are just too many items that exactly match what I remember. Like I said, it is not like all of us with pre-birth memories had a dream about being able to fly ... most people have that flying dream, but I highly doubt the above listed items could, by chance alone, all be experienced by others. So, I have answered your question. The pre-birth memories are bascially the same, but people remember parts of what happened better than others. The theme is consistent. The fact that near death experiences accounts are "extensions" of what pre-birth memories are - is even more amazing, and makes it even more unlikely that pre-birth memories are false.
Also, Cranky ... note here that I believe in evolution and Ai doesn't even believe in God. It is not like we are religious nuts, going on a crusade.
Ai - what I have to say to you is important.
First, some of my ancestors lived in or near Austria! I am really am very sorry that your life has been so very difficult. I can only say that other people do care, and wish the best for you, even though they may not know you - e.g. people like myself. I can only tell you what I know. While Cranky doesn't believe us i.e. about our memories, you know what you have remembered and experienced. I'm telling you the truth about what I remember. There is a God, and because he/she is just that, God gets to "call all of the shots" and decide everything. It is not fair to us per se, but we need to think in the long term and not just the short term. We were all sent here to experience earth and to learn from it. My life has been difficult too - but maybe not as bad as yours. Neither one of us wanted to be born. It is difficult not to be resentful. However, if you try to believe in God and trust in him, and try to do your best and treat others kindly, you will escape your current misery - maybe in this life, and better things lie ahead for you in the afterlife. That is your mission. I was born to tell you it again in this message today. Good luck! And Cranky - my message parallels just about every Christian, Jewish, and Islamic religious belief, so please don't bash me here for making a religious statement. As I have told you - my memories are part of the basis for me believing in God. Maybe I would be very doubtful without them too ...
i just want that this shit somehow ends for me. But not suicide (had often thought about it, but it is not the solution (my "mother" have try it so often now, i am not scared, lol, she was about 50 times at the hospital))
i think i want to be alone so long as possible.. not really much people can cheer me up.. only the really insane, hysteric people who bring me to laught are okay for me.
But as far as i remember my life can not really be happy. Crap is i know my life is not going to be good. So it makes no sense to make any hopes.
why should i concentrate on making friends etc when i KNOW i will really bad end? (hehe i met the other "life where i could choose from at school." he is not father. (only 18 year old and the baby is already around 3. (I do not like babies)
Thanks for your message. Well, I agree that some humans can be very disappointing, and there is nothing wrong with wanting to be alone. However, I try not to hate anyone.
Can you answer my previous questions, please? I'm just curious. Here they are again:
Did you have a sense that you had to be born, and go to earth, in order to learn lessons?
To me the "hole" you describe, may have been the tunnel that I traveled through - to get into my fetal body. Do you think you entered the hole to get to earth?
Do you remember anything else pre-birth?
Thank you,
Chris
And yes. It could have been a cave.. but i just remember seen the holes. and those creepy feelings
I believe you. I just recently found a website which contains stories much like my own, i.e. like my experience that I have described on this website (see link below). Why don't you tell us what you remember and felt? I'm not sure we will convince Cranky Media Guy, but I would be facinated to hear about what you remember.
http://www.beyondreligion.com/su_personal/pbe-index.htm
Thanks,
Chris
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If it was just your imagination, that is fine. I just asked you to further elaborate on your experience because you wrote previously that were "sure" your "memory" was "genuine."
I'm describing my memories, and not my imagination. The website I posted above contains accounts very similar to my memories, and no one can explain that. I just recently discovered the website, within the past few weeks.
Hi Ai ..
Cranky, I'm sure you have something to say about this one!
"No it won't be good because posting it is a waste of time and energy. It is also just my imagination. Was that good for you?"
You seem angry. Why? Because I disagreed with a completely unproven theory on the MUSEUM OF HOAXES WEBSITE?
Chris said:
"The website I posted above contains accounts very similar to my memories, and no one can explain that."
Consensus is not the test of veracity. Once upon a time, many people believed the Earth was flat; their stories would have sounded rather similar, too. Did their sincere belief in a flat Earth make it so?
thanks for wriitng back. You have a very broad defintion of imagination, and some interetsing points. I haven't developed ideas to the extent that you have about imagination, but they are interesting. To be simple, I went to the Merriam-Webster dictionary for basic definitions. I used the third defintion of memory.
Imagination:
The act or power of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses or never before wholly perceived in reality.
Memory:
A particular act of recall or recollection.
An image or impression of one that is remembered
<fond memories of her youth>. The time within which past events can be or are remembered <within the memory of living men>.
No doubt Cranky Media guy dismisses my memories as imagination. However, despite extensively describing how imagination influences our reality, you still state you had a pre-birth experience, and while you have decided not to describe it to us, I will still count it as one.
...and Cranky, yes, I do believe the earth is round, and you believe it is flat. I'm betting someday you will believe it is round too. Just think how hard it was for those first scientists who suspected the earth was round, to be among all of those people who believed the earth was flat. I am one of those present day scientists, and now you know how I feel!
"Just think how hard it was for those first scientists who suspected the earth was round, to be among all of those people who believed the earth was flat. I am one of those present day scientists, and now you know how I feel!"
Science finds things out by TESTING. The Earth was proven to be round by people who actually sailed around it.
What verifiable testing have you done to PROVE that your "memories" of the ancient past are anything other than the product of an active imagination?
I still haven't read what your remembering because I couldn't find a prebirth link on the site you sent me to. What is the URL to yours?
when I say imagination I am talking about only mine and in general. I am not making a judgement on another persons accounts.
I wrote my account on this website on page 2.
The link I mentioned above is of other people's accounts. What is common in many pre-birth accounts, and what I actually remember, is not having a body, or having a spiritual body, being around god and feeling unconditional love, communicating- usually with telepathy - with guides or angles, seeing a book of future life events displayed like a running movie, or seeing future life events on holographic-like screens, discussing your future life events with the guides, having your memory erased (I resisted), entering a dark cave or tunnel, and traveling to earth to be placed into a fetal body.
I have had no near death experience, However, but those who do, ofen recount going up to "heaven" and seeing their past life reviewed and discussed.
To me, this is a very complex "dream", lets say, of the imagination. Most people have had dreams of flying, some have had dreams of being stuck or crawling through a shaft, or dreams of having a test and not studying for it, or scary dreams or nightmares. I have had all of these. But for so many people to have the similar "dream" of a pre-birth experience, and believe they are actual memories, is truly bizarre.
Thank you for describing your experince, Eric.
Cranky, I simply cannot defend worldwide religion, but you realize that even the basic tenets of Christianity hold there is life after death, in some other realm. If there is not, we are all just products of evolved chance on this rock, and there is nothing after this life becasue sciecnce cannot prove. Even so, the molecular forces that bind ataoms together to fom molecules and amino acids do so amazingly by "chance." Or was it by design? So, Cranky, I simply cannot just let you believe in such a dead end concept. I meant that I'm a present day scientist, and I really am. Science doesn't and cannot explain everything.
I read your memory thank you for sharing that. Your memory has many similarities with my own. Also, I would like to ask media guy if he has heard anything regarding the results of NDE tests. That is the tests where objects are placed high in the room with a word or letters for the subject to report after an NDE. When I was in my 20s I decided that I was going to meditate 3 to 4 hours a day not all at once but 1.5 to 2 hours in the morning and 1.5 to 2 hours in the evening which I pursued for several weeks. My reasoning at the time was to bring more of the experience into the physical world so that I could have the best of both worlds. I would start by stepping outside of myself and at first looking at myself and then move around the house and try to see things as they happened around the house or outside or down in the other house.
Thank you for your message. Two things. First, I totally agree with you when you wrote: "I am all for science and looking at things scientifically without trying to work the blinders of a religious belief systems into the equation because trial and error will someday reveal a deeper understanding." I'm having a hard time explaining this to Cranky. Also, when I was very young, I do remember seeing events occur with my mother and grandmother, and to be "floating" around the room, and view certian events before I was born. None of this made sense, until a year or two ago, when I read about pre-birth accounts ofrm others, and how the theory goes, i.e. that the spirit/soul is only loosely associated with the fetal and neonatl body, and can sometimes float outside of the body. As we age, we are more grounded in the material world, and this ceases to happen. So , I totally believe that your experience happened.
Cranky, I won't ever be able to convince you, but by his writing, one can tell that Eric is intellegent and reflective. So am I (I just don't always proof read my typing). I don't believe in UFOs, haven't been abducted by aliens, have never seen a ghost (I have run into a few demons however, in human form - ha ha), and I do understand the scientific method. What I'm trying to say is - it is not too uncommon to run into people who have had such pre-birth experiences and memories. Granted, consensus doesn't prove something, but even science, when it doesn't have the answer, progress based on consensus viewpoints. Theories often have to be totally corrected, and do a 180 degree turn. It is through the process of discovery and collection of new data that hypothesis are validated or disproven. To this end, I have told my account of a pre-birth experience on this website. I say with complete honesty that I wasn't imagining anything. These are memories that I have been aware of for 34 years. I have an excellent memory too, and 12 years of post high school education. To say the least, my good memory got me where I am today. The pre-brith experience issue needs further scientific study before it is totally dismissed as a hoax.
Yes, I have heard about those experiments. My understanding is that no one was able to say what the word was after an alleged "NDE."
"To large to fly the way that it did and I don't think we had anything with that kind of technology that could jump from one spot to another and emit a static electric field that you could feel."
Ball lightning perhaps? If you misjudged your distance from the object, you might well have misjudged the size of the object. Happens all the time.
I do not agree with some of your logic.
What do you think the human spirit dose in a premortal xistence before it becomes mortal at prebirth on earth.
Pull your head out of the sand man.
I too have had a prebirth expierence and am documenting my own with drawings of places and things that I've seen and done.
I do not want to hear you tell me I am wrong.
Heaven dose exist my friend
There is war damage laying all over the grounds where I was at in heaven.
And I have never been out of the united states in this life.
I do not read books on such things either as they are all man made items.
I believe in what I can see and touch and feel Emotionly.
That to me in its self is proof that heaven is real.
The broken stones broken columns were real by touching them by falling over them.
The spiritual body has the same ability that the mortal body has when the spirit body and the mortal body come together.
As one.
My own drawings are based on real life memory.
We have all lived another life before coming to earth.
Read your bible man pull your head out of sand
Join the living with a little dialogue.
Not disbelief.
Prebirth exspierences are real.
As real as carrieing a bucket of water and falling in it.
That is how real prebirth to premortal memorys are.
Joe
Thanks for your message.
I agree with you.
Cranky Media Guy, any comments?
Hi There
You say my prebirth memories are not real.
Question
Why do you believe such a thing.
Expierence can not be documented on earth with out skeptisisum by others.
Joe's Prebirth Expierence:
I find my self with memory intacked and the size of a full grown adult falling through the clouds as if I were an angel that Had been stripped of his wings during flight and during my constant fall through the clouds and the heavens them selves.
I find my self shrinking in size I see god sitting on his thrown talking to a small boy in tears and I am landing on a walk way in heaven with hand rails on both sides of it.
I find my self going through a tunnel with brown walls in it and a hard floor in it all lit up as the light is flooding through the high windows its self.
And I am being draged to the end of this tunnel beyond my control feet first message given me; Gods voice to me.Now go forth and teach the people of these things that you see and do here.And are a part of here so that the people might believe.
I fall through the clouds below me and I see war damage of old every where below me and buildings destroyed all around me.
I see a pile of downed columns where I land wrong twisting my ankles hurting them.
The door way other side of columns is in a wall of brick blacked out forbidden to me to enter.
Others are entering never to be seen again I'm next to a small boy going with him.
In life on earth my brother 5 years older than me was born dead.
I base my story on touch, sensation, feelings of emotions, sadness, a true expierence of the sole and human body.
The human body obtains all of these things during birth from the spirit as both become one.
I do not use drugs and do not smoke.
Do not take strong drink.
I was born in heaven in gods image.
You want proof.
Your burden of proof is on your shoulders my friend
My proof here is the real thing, Touching tripping falling down.
The sensations brought on by touch in heaven hitting my knee on the columns trying to go around them is real to me.
Picking my self up off the ground is real.
Shrinking down to infant size is real
It made me very upset to have some one else cary me around 18 inches long unable to walk or run.
"There's no particular trick to pulling something out of your ass (metaphorically speaking). It makes no difference how sincerely you believe in what you're saying. If I sincerely believe that the Earth is flat, I'm still wrong.
"Since Joseph is making assertions, the burden of proof is on him. He hasn't provided any proof whatsoever, there's no reason to take what he says at face value."
Good luck in your faith
I am 53 years old.
You want documented proof
Get it some where else (BUB)
Believe what you want to believe.
It is a free country.
Flat my foot
I'm so glad to see that you think that actual PROOF of things is silly and unnecessary. That means, of course, that you accept my story at face value.
You DO, right? I mean, you MUST. After all, I SAID it so that makes it true...just like YOUR story.
Thank you for believing me. Most people require PROOF of the fantastic before accepting it.
And body who dose not believe it is possible with out proof or documentation of such memories as my own.
Needs to do there own research in to the possibility That memories from pre birth to pre mortal is possible.
My own prebirth to pre mortal memories were very real to me.
You can not document what is in the brain with accepting it at face Value.
I all ways believed it was that every body believe in giving people a chance to speak there minds with out acuseing any one of being a hoax.
where Pre Birth memory is concerned.
I have to believe these memories are real
As I have a book Now go and teach the people listed at Amazon.com
with my drawings in it.
Publisher XLIBRIS
Thing is, Only person who can sincerely believe some thing is true.
Is the person stateing it so.
It is not for me to disbelieve other wise.
I look at it this way.
If you believe in Jesus Christ and Father in heaven.
Then your belief tells you in that manner just as Jesus did so.
If you truely believe in the lord then any thing is possible.
For you.
Don't let any one tell you other wise.
I base my own expierence on feelings of emotion, happynes, Sadness, touch, Sound, Speech.
hearing.
All of these things.
I will not ever document any thing about my story here of pre birth memories
As I do not believe that I should have to document it.
document my story is calling me a lier and a hoax.
Some thing I do not appriciate.
But every one is welcome to there own opinions.
in this life.
Joe
Computers are a fine thing to have.
But it makes it too easy to run other peoples beliefs down in to the ground and hurt there feelings.
I had to disown my fathers intire family to me.
Because of the bitter language and nasty words.
And the word hoax.
name calling to any one
There is no place in this life for name calling.
Advice to everyone.
Share your ideas and how you feel if you must.
but a word of advice here if you please.
The name calling and the ugly words if you will there should be no place for them to be allowed on line.
towards anybody.
I believe you. Cranky is just that - Cranky.
It is difficult for some people to believe us, I guess. What they need to understand is that there is really no motivation or gain for us to lie about our pre-birth memories, or to create a hoax. We are just telling the truth about what we remember. I know you are telling the truth because of the way you described your memories - with emotions and sensations. I assume that your conversations were telepathic? Please answer that question for me.
Thank you,
Chris
By the way, you seem to think that you have to stress the sincerity of your belief in your story over and over. If you actually read what I've said, you would have seen where I explained that sincerity makes no difference.
It's not your SINCERITY I question; it's your veracity.
Hi
I believe your story as well is true.
But Cranky the media guy likes documentation of such story's.
He can check the Bible on my story and he will find that there was indeed a war in heaven if he even believes there was a god.
Most people I've spoken too in my life here where I live has asked that a book be written on my expierences before mortal life.
and that it be published.
I've even made drawings from memory to show what I have seen in heaven its self.
Your question was there telepathy
Yes, That is how I did communicate with others in the heavens.
I would look at them and just think of what I wanted to say to them.
And there was no verble talking mouth wise.
I've spoken english language all of my life.
Even in heaven.
This is hard for most to believe.
And I do not expect Cranky to believe it.
But I believe in my heart that I was an angel that fell from grace in heaven only to become a better person through the being born a mortal here on earth.
There was a blacked out door way there in heaven that was forbidden to me as a spirit person.
I was not allowed to enter it.
Cranky I hope that you can some day believe people on such maters when they talk about them.
but you want proof you want veracity.
Well believe what you like.
It is a free world to speak our minds and if you do not want to believe with out questions of proof.
Life as a premortal.
Read your bible more look in the dictionary in the bible under war in heaven.
Arch Angel Michael won the war against the devil and the devil was sent packing to earth's pit of fire.,
I refuse to offer any proof that you seek.
as I have no way to pick my brain for the proof you seek.
Read your bible more often.
Pre mortal existence
War in heaven
I had Jesus Christ come to me in October 09 2006
He had blue eyes and brown hair with reddish tint in it and a yellow light over his hair wounds in the palms of his hands.
Good luck.
My telepathy did hapen for me.
Through thought process not word of mouth.
Got to call it a night
Work comes early
JM
this one is to you sir.
what I am saying here to you is this.
I've had three seperate things hapen to me in my life.
one is born with prebirth memory in 56
2 Was a farm tractor wreck where I died of 90 percent injuries
And crossed over to the other side.
through the tunnel of bright light.
Take my word when I tell you this.
There is a gate to hell just on the other side of that tunnel for all to see.
I broke my lower back and broke my pelvic bone cross the middle and walked yet mind you a 1/4 of a mile for help on that broken pelvic bone after afew falls ofcourse.
I never knew I broke any bones in me.
On the other side faceing hells door way.
I could see a roaring fire all the way to the roof its self just beyond what looked like a bright white curtain.
I prayed to heavenly father to save my life from this hot fire blaise on the outer wall.
You talk about a man being full of fear.
I thought I was dead for sure.
I later came to know God as my father to me and not as god.
I have called him Father 3 seperate times begging him not to send me back here to earth.
But he wanted me to do a mission in my life when I got back to this life.
You could not prove to me I was dead.
I never even noticed I had left my body till I saw it covered up on the bed for dead.
You and me and Cris
We may not see eye to eye on any thing here .
but look at it this way.
God has put us all here on earth for a reason or one another reasons.
And I believe that is to help our fellow man kind in one way or another.
No I will not prove any thing to any one.
Not in my life time.
I don't believe that I should have to prove any thing to any one.
It is my god given right to know and understand and to believe things in my heart of hearts.
Ore birth story its self.
You have to have an open mind its self.
to know what is right from wrong stories wise.
And yes, I was an angel fell from grace in heaven.
in my prebirth memories.
But I can not offer you any documented proof.
It is only my word.
Against yours and everyone else.
Hopefully you may understand I am telling you the trueth here.
Pre Birth memory
Death from a tractor wreck
Jesus Christ Comes to see me.
What else is going to hapen to me I wonder all good I hope.
Good night
May all who reads this believe.
Joe
Even Prebirth memories of being in heaven before mortal life on earth can be ruff on a mear mortal person in this life we call Reality.
That is why I am telling my own story to who ever will listen.
In hopes that it may help others to deal with life in general.
My own case, I have gotten to where I even loose sleep over not being able to sleep at all.
Because my mind is constantly searching my own heavenly memories for answer's that will never be.
I am straight as an arrow thoughts wise.
But if a person lets such memories get to them and not deal with them.
there is no telling such memories could leed to in ones life if they do not accept them and learn to deal with them.
Because such memories will never go away.
I went to a doctor in oregon for the mind and told him about my memories.
And after a few sessions with him.
He told me to my face.
Sir you hate your daddy.
Who fathered you.
That was not the point, But it was his answer.
He told me that I was not crazzie either.
Said I was waisting both our time with doctor visits.
Sicolligy I think was his field of work.
My pre birth story is based on facts not made up.
But I will carrie a message with me till the end of time for me.
Given to me before I was born.
Message as follows Now go and teach the people of these things that you are a part of here and do.
So that they might believe.
end of message.
2 publishers tell me these memories are indeed religous.
publishers who publish books for aliving.
And are very picky about what they publish.
JM
Thanks for your message. I also remember that there was a war in heaven, and that I was a fallen angel. The thing is though, I wasn't directly involved with the war. Here is exactly what I remember: I was "called forth" by God. I remember being pulled out of some dark holding area. Even though I was very old, I could not remember much before I was called forth. I wanted to be with God right away, but 3 angels/spirit guides told me that I could not do that. I remember knowing that there had been a war in heaven, and that I was young or little (maybe as far as soul development goes?), and I hoped that I would not be punished along with those who caused the war. I may have just been associated with the wrong group. I remember being very upset and afraid about having to come to earth, because earth was very chaotic and crazy. Do you remember that? Also did you see any "life preview" before you came here? Jesus said to me: "Go forth my son, I will be with you." It is not a coincidence that God told you: "Now go forth and teach the people of these things that you see and do hear. And are a part of here so that the people might believe." As far as telepathy, Cranky will never understand it because he hasn't experienced it, or at least cannot remember that he has. You do think "in english" but more likely your thoughts would be expressed in other languages here on earth depending on where you were born and raised. Crank, I'm not avoiding the discussion. Lets be exact - you have no real memory of "flying to the dark side of the moon under your own power, and once you arrived there, you ate Skittles with a family of blue kangaroos." Nope -we remember angels with a blue glow - for real ! No psychopathology in that Eric ...
Joe - what is the title of your book?