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Koran Quran 911 9:11
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Posted By:
Thom
Oct 03, 2004
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This seems to use some correct references of the Bible to lead people into believong an incorrect passage from the Koran / Quran
Can anyone support this 9:11 passage?
Here is the email i received:
IRAQ - VERY INTERESTING - DID YOU KNOW?
1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq.
2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!
3. Noah built the ark in Iraq.
4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq.
5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq!
6. Isaac�s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq.
7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq.
8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq.
9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel.
10. Amos cried out in Iraq!
11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem.
12. Daniel was in the lion�s den in Iraq!
13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq) also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!)
14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the �writing on the wall� in Iraq.
15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq.
16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq.
17. The wise men were from Iraq.
18. Peter preached in Iraq.
19. The �Empire of Man� described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq!
And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq!
However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.
The name Iraq, means country with deep roots.
Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible.
No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated it than Iraq.
And also... This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages...
The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)
Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.
(Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?! God Bless you all Amen !
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Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 01:48 PM
I can Koran, can you Quran? Does Duran Duran Koran/Quran? They Koran/Quran in Afghanistan land where the man has a plan to grow poppies agan, Understand, Man? |
Rod
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 02:19 PM
"I can Koran, can you Quran? Does Duran Duran Koran/Quran?" - Hairy
I dunno, ask Stan, owner of the tan van.
HE's the answer man. |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 02:28 PM
Tan Van Stan is The Answer Man? He must have read the Koran/Quran, where it tells of the plans of Afghanistan Land, to regrow the poppies as fast as they can... |
X
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 02:37 PM
HEY! HEY!!!!!...Stop that non-sense you two...This place is not for the incoharent ramblings of FOOLS. So, wipe the drool off the keyboard, put your helmets back on, and try to walk away from the computer without tripping over yourself in the process. And aaah, just say no to drugs. |
Rod
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 02:43 PM
I followed Scorpion's link above, and WOW, this guy's website (no, not scorpion) has got a few, ummm, let's say "alternative" ideas.
<a href="http://www.globalfreemasonry.com/index2.html">Like THIS.</a>
<a href="http://www.endoftimes.net/articles_01.html">And THIS.</a>
"The Jews set such a trap for him, but God foiled that trap with a miracle and rescued Jesus, with someone else being crucified in his place. This truth is described in Surat an-Nisa':
And [on account of] their saying: "We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Messenger of God." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him, but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. (Qur'an, 4:157)"
<a href="http://www.bbcrefuted.com/">And THIS.</a>
<a href="http://www.secretbeyondmatter.com/index.html">And THIS.</a>
I could go on for a while.
But <a href="http://www.truthsforkids.com/">THIS one</a> really scares me.
" All these, again, illustrate an obvious fact. Allah, the Possessor of Infinite Power and Omnipotence, has created the universe, stars, planets, mountains and seas in perfection, and given life to people and all living things."
That's one hell of a way to teach kids about stars and babies. It's amazing that absolutely everything around this man proves him right without a doubt, and there can be no questioning him. At least in HIS eyes.
Sound familiar, followers of jesus? |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 02:45 PM
Stephen, you Boner-Ignorant Twit. Allow me to retort. Actually, I'd have to have torted in the first place to Re-tort, just a Point of Order. That's imtortant. |
X
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 02:47 PM
Oh Yeah??? Well, Your the one!!!!!! |
Rod
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 02:49 PM
NO!
BAD DRUGS!
BAD!
Ramblings of fools? Where?
:coolhmm:
Stephen, you have to understand, man. Stan drove his tan van (with no fan) to Afghanistan Land to pick up a man who had a plan to regrow poppies as fast as he can. |
X
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 02:50 PM
Well, why didn't you say so???? I thought the man with the van was in Japan, understand, sorry man. |
Rod
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 02:58 PM
I don't know what I'll do if Stan ever buys a truck...
Nothing rhymes with truck.
😊 |
christian
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 03:06 PM
i agree that the talmud isn't written for either Christians or Muslims, but still it doesn't detract from it being a book of hate and war no matter what standards you use. The talmud advocates wholesale extermination of Christians and Muslims.
<<If someone was trying to kill you for no good reason, would it not make sense to try and divert their attention elsewhere>>
since the talmud wants all Christians and Muslims killed or enslaved, should we preemptive the jews? maybe we should
<<It's kind of funny, though, you spouting off about hate and war, when you said, and I quote you here, "It should baned and everyone and all those who follow it will need to disapear from the face of this planet before we can have any peace.">>
I agree with it always and forever |
X
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 03:12 PM
I guess Im safe from extermination. |
christian
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 03:14 PM
the talmud aint the holy scripture of the jews, it's a zionist myth. Torah is the real jewish holy scripture,,,,
that maybe but most jews follow the talmud. and most rabbis are zionists. In the last 50 years or so, the talmud took a superior position in the jewish life than the torah..only a very very small minority of jews still hold the torah as the premier book.
The talmud aint the holy scripture of the jews, it's a zionist myth.
Torah is the real jewish holy scripture. |
Rod
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 03:32 PM
Christian...
So... how is the fascist life going, anyway?
NO, that was NOT uncalled for. Look it up.
And I hardly think that you're in a position to tell ANYONE what the jewish people think is the foremost book.
And exactly why is it that you hate these people just because they wanted their own country?
And how about a few quotes (or at least links to them) from this book that support what you're saying? |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 03:48 PM
Koran, Iran, Iraq, I roll, Hussein? Not Me. SHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTT UP. Good God, this Koran/Torah/Bible gibberish is so lame. You guys need to watch "Deep Llama" |
Smerk
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 05:42 PM
I think that the biggest problem with all this is that everyone has their own interpretation of what is written in scripture (pick the religion and associated holy writings of your choice). Therefore, I think it's safe to agree to disagree. I think Hairy's put it best by saying "...this...gibberish is so lame." |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 05:55 PM
Smerk said: "I think Hairy's put it best by saying '...this...gibberish is so lame.'" I rule, dogs drool. |
Smerk
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 06:23 PM
Oh boy, I think I may have done something wrong! I didn't say you were right, Hairy, just that I agreed with you (which is still dangerous!) :roll: |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 06:43 PM
Of Course I'm Right, Smerk, my Mate (unless you're a Sheila). I'm Always Right. Don't look now- there's a cuckoo burro in your old gum tree. |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 06:47 PM
Merry, merry King of the Bush is he. Hey- King of The Bush... isn't that prophesied in Chapter 13, lyin 2, in the Necrocomiccon, the Book of The Fanboy? King of the Bush... I like that. |
Rod
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 06:55 PM
King of the Bush...
Wasn't Ron Jeremy in that? |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:02 PM
Abraham, Jesus, and Mohammed were all misplaced by a guy who just had his shoes rebuilt by an unknown force. "What soles a man who loses his prophets"? Got me. |
Smerk
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:06 PM
Ok, Hairy, I'm a Sheila. Rod, he's writing down a song that was once popular amongst school kids here in oz (like when I went to school os-so-long-ago). Watch out for those kookaburras! |
Rod
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:12 PM
I forgot not all pornstar jokes are international...
😜 |
Smerk
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:14 PM
Especially to innocent females who don't know the first thing about porn movies... |
Rod
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:22 PM
Good point, Smerk.
My new pic looks weird. He's supposeed to be knocking on the wall (why, I'm not sure), but it looks like he's just smacked his hand with a mallet, and it's throbbing, cartoon style.
It's actually off of a christian website where the guy was arguing that jesus didn't look like that.
And if jesus isn't public domain, what is? |
Smerk
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:30 PM
I suppose. He is the biggest celebrity of ALL TIME! |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:31 PM
Through great expense and effort, I'm pleased to announce that the sequel to "Deep Llama" will be filmed in Australia. The working title is: "Tie Me Kangaroo (Down)". A Salami Lickem |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:35 PM
Jesus was not the biggest celebrity of all time. It was Orson Welles. Dominic Nabisco, et cum, sit down and eat. Hold Santa up the Highest. Go in pieces. |
Smerk
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:40 PM
Do you think that when they film, they'll use a wobble board? |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:55 PM
Oh, yeah. Wobble boards, surfboards, ironing boards... all the boards that money can buy. (pssssst... wut's a wobble board?) |
Smerk
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 07:59 PM
Aah, if you were aussie, you'd know...Actually, if you're British, you'd also know, since it's the standard instrument of a scary person known as Rolf Harris! Seriously, a wobble board is a large piece of flexible cardboard. Hold it between two hands and shake it back and forth. Here endeth the lesson on wobble boards. |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 08:35 PM
I am now enlightened, for I have knowledge of The Board of Wobble. All hail Smerk The Wobbler, for she has come. My thanks, o gracious one. |
Smerk
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 08:59 PM
O-kay...ummm, not much of a wobbler (unless I'm drunk). :coolsmirk: |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 09:13 PM
Not a Wobbler? A Weebler, perhaps... they wobble, but they don't fall down |
Boo
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 05:23 AM
Y'know, I have a recording of Rolf Harris singing 'I Touch Myself' by the Divinyls.
:gulp: |
X
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 08:52 AM
Never heard of him.... What kinda stuff do you listen to Boo???? Also I have been meaning to ask, what or where in the world is "Haggi"??? |
Boo
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 09:05 AM
*WAY, WAY OFF TOPIC*
He's interesting (read: scary), certainly.
I'm very fond of spoof covers, or punk covers of amusing songs, although I am quite fussy about them. Other'n that, sort of rocky punky stuff.
And Haggii is almost certainly (not) the plural of haggis.
😉 |
christian
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 01:35 PM
THE TRUTH ABOUT
THE TALMUD
Judaism's Holiest Book
by Michael A. Hoffman II and Alan R. Critchley
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Introduction
The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book. Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."
The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the Black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians have more knowledge of the Old Testament than the Israelis.
However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes Talmud, of which they have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4: "The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way." Because they don't traffic in Talmudic traditions, the Black Ethiopians are discriminated against and have been forbidden to perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state. |
christian
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 01:36 PM
The Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus' time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because it nullified Biblical teachings.
The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition that voids Scripture (cf. Mark 7:13), which is regularly used against Catholicism by Protestants, is actually a direct reference to the Talmud or more properly, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ's lifetime, before being committed to writing. All of Mark chapter 7, from verse one through thirteen, represents Our Lord's pointed condemnation of the Mishnah.
Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day, the widespread Christian notion is that the Old Testament is the supreme book of Judaism. But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for doctrine the commandments of rabbis, not God; the Talmudic commentary on the Bible is their supreme law and not the Bible itself. That commentary does indeed, as Jesus said, void the laws of God, not uphold them. As readers of Talmud (in the rabbinically authorized Soncino version), we know this to be true. |
christian
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 01:37 PM
The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition that voids Scripture (cf. Mark 7:13), which is regularly used against Catholicism by Protestants, is actually a direct reference to the Talmud or more properly, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ's lifetime, before being committed to writing. All of Mark chapter 7, from verse one through thirteen, represents Our Lord's pointed condemnation of the Mishnah.
Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day, the widespread Christian notion is that the Old Testament is the supreme book of Judaism. But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for doctrine the commandments of rabbis, not God; the Talmudic commentary on the Bible is their supreme law and not the Bible itself. That commentary does indeed, as Jesus said, void the laws of God, not uphold them. As readers of Talmud (in the rabbinically authorized Soncino version), we know this to be true.
There is a small Jewish sect which makes considerable effort to eschew Talmud and adhere to the Old Testament alone. These are the Karaites, a most hated and severely persecuted group within Judaism. |
christian
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 01:40 PM
To the Mishnah the rabbis later added the Gemara (rabbinical commentaries). Together these comprise the Talmud. There are two versions, the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud. The Babylonian Talmud is regarded as the authoritative version: "The authority of the Babylonian Talmud is also greater than that of the Jerusalem Talmud. In cases of doubt the former is decisive." (R.C. Musaph-Andriesse, From Torah to Kabbalah: A Basic Introduction to the Writings of Judaism, p. 40).
This study is based on the Jewish-authorized, English translation of the Babylonian Talmud: the Soncino edition. Unless otherwise indicated, every selection we cite is documented from the text of the authoritative Soncino Talmud. We have published herein the authenticated sayings of the Jewish Talmud. Look them up for yourself. To verify the Talmud passages cited, refer to the Soncino edition Talmud, which may be found in large university and seminary libraries. The Soncino Talmud may also be purchased from book dealers.
Translations: The translators of the Talmud sometimes translate the Hebrew word goyim (Gentiles) under any number of terms such as heathen, Cuthean, Egyptian, idolater etc. But these are actually references to Gentiles (all non-Jews). See for example footnote 5 of the Soncino edition Talmud: >>Cuthean (Samaritan) was here substituted for the original goy...<< Christians are sometimes referred to by the code word Min or Minim.
It is the standard disinformation practice of the Pharisees to deny the existence of the following Talmudic scriptures and to claim they are the fabrications of "anti-Semites." This disinformation can only obtain cachet among those too lazy to go to the English-language books of the Talmud and look these passages up for themselves. Hebrew University Professor emeritus Israel Shahak in his monumental 1994 work, "Jewish History, Jewish Religion" (London: Pluto Press), has confirmed the malice and racism contained in Talmud. |
christian
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 01:43 PM
It is the standard disinformation practice of the Pharisees to deny the existence of the following Talmudic scriptures and to claim they are the fabrications of "anti-Semites." This disinformation can only obtain cachet among those too lazy to go to the English-language books of the Talmud and look these passages up for themselves. Hebrew University Professor emeritus Israel Shahak in his monumental 1994 work, "Jewish History, Jewish Religion" (London: Pluto Press), has confirmed the malice and racism contained in Talmud.
We publish the following educational material in the hope of liberating people, both Jewish and non-Jewish, from the superstitions, hate-mongering and barbarities of Talmud. The implementation of Talmudic philosophy has caused untold suffering throughout history and now in occupied Palestine it is used as a justification for the mass murder of Palestinian civilians.
Some Teachings of the Talmud
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. |
christian
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 01:44 PM
Non-Jews are Not Human
Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals ("she-asses").
Jews are Divine
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel." |
christian
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 01:46 PM
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?"
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men. |
christian
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 01:47 PM
Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."
Says Jesus was a Sorcerer
Sanhedrin 43a . Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery.
Horrible Blasphemy of Our Lord
Gittin 57a . Says Jesus ( see footnote #4) is being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"
Attacks Christians and their Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a . Christians ("minim") and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations (see footnote #11 for the definition of minim).
Sanhedrin 90a.Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books," see footnote #9) will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament. See footnote #6.
Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21). |
christian
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 01:49 PM
plenty more ..I will post more in thefuture and I will supply the website when you can find all about the talmud/. |
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 02:00 PM
I can't wait!!! :ahhh: |
The Curator
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 02:02 PM
I'm closing this thread. |
The Curator
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 02:02 PM
Because I just can't stand it anymore... |
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