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Koran Quran 911 9:11
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Posted By:
Thom
Oct 03, 2004
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This seems to use some correct references of the Bible to lead people into believong an incorrect passage from the Koran / Quran
Can anyone support this 9:11 passage?
Here is the email i received:
IRAQ - VERY INTERESTING - DID YOU KNOW?
1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq.
2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!
3. Noah built the ark in Iraq.
4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq.
5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq!
6. Isaac�s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq.
7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq.
8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq.
9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel.
10. Amos cried out in Iraq!
11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem.
12. Daniel was in the lion�s den in Iraq!
13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq) also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!)
14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the �writing on the wall� in Iraq.
15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq.
16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq.
17. The wise men were from Iraq.
18. Peter preached in Iraq.
19. The �Empire of Man� described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq!
And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq!
However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.
The name Iraq, means country with deep roots.
Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible.
No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated it than Iraq.
And also... This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages...
The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)
Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.
(Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?! God Bless you all Amen !
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Brenda Layland
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 | 11:41 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran.asp
Snopes says its false. They are always my go-to source. |
Steve
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 | 06:08 PM
It is good to know the truth. However, one could only hope that it was true. |
ilie
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 | 11:35 AM
"This seems to use some correct references of the Bible to lead people into believong an incorrect passage from the Koran / Quran[/q]
not all the references from the bible are correct. and the 9:11 section in coran says sumthing else. this is bull shit and the one that made this up is a idiot.
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pemalah
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 | 05:09 PM
Re: Koran 9:11 !!
VERY INTERESTING - DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS HOAX?
'This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages...
The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)
Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.'
**Summary of the eRumor
A verse in the Koran, which happens to correspond to the date of the Attack on America, predicts that "the wrath of the Eagle" would be felt throughout the lands of Allah.
**The Truth
This is a hoax.
The quote is not from anywhere in the Koran (or Quran).
Chapter 9 verse 11 actually says "But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and we make the communications clear for a people who know." (M. H. Shakir translation)
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Now it's strange that anyone would want us to think that it was prophesied that George Bush would
'cleanse the lands of Allah'! When wanton bloodshed becomes 'cleansing' it is beginning to sound a lot like Hitler talking.... HMMM... food for thought?
Pemalah
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francis
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 | 04:49 AM
The hoax could have been targeted to the american voters. It implies that president bush has unfinished business, and most likely he will be able to lure some undecided voters. |
gael
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 | 04:01 AM
I received this along with the 9:11 qoute. Is this also a hoax ot is this true?
IRAQ - VERY INTERESTING - DID YOU KNOW?
1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq.
2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!
3. Noah built the ark in Iraq.
4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq.
5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq!
6. Isaac's wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq.
7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq.
8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq.
9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel.
10. Amos cried out in Iraq!
11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem.
12. Daniel was in the lion's den in Iraq!
13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been
in Iraq also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!)
14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the "writing on the wall" in Iraq.
15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq.
16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq.
17. The wise men were from Iraq.
18. Peter preached in Iraq.
19. The "Empire of Man" described in Revelation is called Babylon,which
was a city in Iraq!
And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often
mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is
Iraq!
However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used
in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word
Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the
Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq, means country with deep roots.
Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant
country in the Bible.
No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated
it than Iraq.
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Haji
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 | 01:36 PM
Who cares. The American fighting machine will conquer the evils of the middle east and Peace will prevail. |
nik
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 | 09:30 AM
Just refer to the Old Testamant and the book of revealation and find out the truth. |
William Clark
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 | 10:14 PM
All in the article is true except the verse from the Qu'ran. 9:11. . the only thing i can question is about Noah building the ark in Iraq....at the time before the Great Flood there was just one land mass.....after checking it with old maps, it is possible that Noah did build the ark in the area of present day iraq... |
Kat
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 | 06:30 PM
The Verse 9:11 in the Koran, part of this might be a hoax, I couldn't say--however the blog about this being a Election year scam to get votes for President Bush is definately a 'hoax'. I first saw this almost a year ago, shortly after our troops went into Iraq... |
Cunning
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 | 03:09 AM
My mother sent me the same e-mail, but I decided to look up the information before forwarding this "crap" on to more easily mislead American's. I found through SEVERAL sites, including the Koran itself that the quote is VERY wrong and I think evilly misleading. Why would anyone want us to think that mass murder is OK through any religious text? What have WE become?! |
Tera
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 | 11:35 AM
I received the same email. I have confirmed all of 1-19 in the Bible.
As far as Koran (9:11) it is all wrong! Someone out there with nothing better to do needs to do some research in the Koran / Quran before they start sending out emails with false implications! This world is in enough turmoil without the help of people like that!
Can anyone even tell me where in the Koran, does it says,
"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace."
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Davella Wheeler
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 | 12:52 PM
I tried to look this up! Thank you for posting this site! It is a trying and disturbing time for all Americans! God Bless You All!! |
Maegan
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 | 01:55 PM
...as if the previous entries weren't enough, there's this:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran.asp |
Chad
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 | 03:01 PM
To retort this crap
Babylonia was the cradle of civilization
Noah's ark probably never existed
No Babylonian document has ever been discovered which refers to The "Tower of Babel"...probably didn't exist
"Abraham was from Ur", although Ur is a city the word "Ur" refers to a town or place it is a total vaguery..it may not have any historical tie
"Rebecca is from Nahor" Nahor is Abraham's brother not a City
Assyrians and babylonians conquered the ten tribes of Israel. Not Assyria
This whole thing including the 9:11 verse is
horseshit and waste of time
The 9th Quran refers to repentance known as tauba
it couldn't be farther from the truth
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brandon
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 | 11:45 AM
chad- you are an idiot every thing else in that email is true except the koran 9:11 thing. i agree with nik. if you want to find out for your self look it up. you will find that it is all true chad probly just got that bull from athiest sight or from another source that just told him that instead of looking it up for himself. Cunning you say look at what we have become!and that mass killing because of religiouse beliefs is wrong and i definatly agree with you but look what the muslims are doing have been doing through out the course of history. For hundreds of years they have been killing people in the name of their god. their "religoin" is the only one in the history of man that actually says that it is ok for them to kill any one they want, but they call it a "holly war" if you look it up you will find out that what im saying is true and if you think what america is doing is bad. look at what they have been doing for the past 1500 years just because some one disagrees with what they belive. I am a christian and no where in the bible does God say that i can kill any one that i want in his name. true there are many wars in the bible but they take place only after God told them to do so because he knows that if we humans took it in our own hands we would just screw it up like the muslims have, who i remind you again have been killing inocent people through out history in the name of their god. frankly i am glad some body is finally taking a stand against them and saying we are not going to take your crap any more and alow this censlice killing of people to go on any more. |
Captain Al
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 | 02:15 PM
Both the Bible and the Koran are bullshit. Nobody built an ark because there was no flood. Therefore, the email story is a hoax. Are there eagles in Iraq? |
kim
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 | 10:04 PM
I don't know what the truth is about the whole 9:11 thing. But I do know that the numbers 1-19 are true.
God knows the truth!!!! |
Misti iamnotantichrist
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 | 10:28 PM
All Will bow before the Lord! I know of antichrists who now believe! What's your problem?? Do you not believe in the facts that there is an Almighty God higher and smarter than yourself or the smartest person you know?? Thank God that I KNOW there is!!!! Praise God! MAN get REAL! How about GET SAVED!! |
Kiyakotari
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 | 06:38 AM
The 9:11 verse part is obviously fake, as many people have reported. However, many of the things on the list before it are true, and many of those that aren't definitely true could have been, but there is not enough evidence either way. Then again, there are some that are true...and taken completely out of context, as well.
For example:
Yes, Iraq is in the area that was known historically as Mesopotamia, and it WAS the place where civilization started in the western world...however, Mesopotamia included much more than just Iraq. It covered a LOT more territory than that.
Yes, Peter probably DID preach in Iraq. But Peter preached pretty much EVERYWHERE in the known world at the time. The man had a BIG mouth. And he was loud about his opinions.
The wise men were from Iraq? No one knows WHERE the wise men were supposed to have come from. Scholars are still not SURE - though there are many hypothesis - to this day.
So, while some things on the list are not lies...they ARE somewhat misleading, because not all information is given.
Support the Troops - Not the War |
david
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 | 05:51 PM
um iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, as proved by the 9-11 commisson...
so...
yeah |
Nefertari
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 | 08:31 PM
Brandon - you say that chad is an idiot and if he wants to know the truth he should go look it up.
You also wrote "Cunning you say look at what we have become!and that mass killing because of religiouse beliefs is wrong and i definatly agree with you but look what the muslims are doing have been doing through out the course of history. For hundreds of years they have been killing people in the name of their god."
You seem to think this justifies the current events.
May I suggest you follow your own advice and do some research. Many wars and atrocities have been committed in the past in the name of Christianity. The Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition stand out. Witch hunts, in America and Britain. The systematic destruction of the Maya by Spanish invaders, particularly Diego de Landa (a bishop).
Christian extremists have been just as guilty throughout history of torturing and killing people who believe differently to them. By your argument a war against Christian nations would be justifiable.
The problem stems from extremism, not Islam. It is extremely important to make that distinction if a peaceful solution is ever to be reached. |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 | 08:35 PM
It is a common method of spreading big lies, to place them in great proximity to great truths. Guilt by association, credibility by association, as in: "Wow, since all this stuff is true, then this must be true, too." That is a basic falacial fault of illogical assertions. Each statement should stand on its own merits, but most Americans seem more interested in making things simpler, until it all becomes one big simple lie. We don't like to make judgements upon ourselves, anywhere near to the degree upon which we readily demonize others. A shame, a tragedy, and a crime. |
milliondlz
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 | 12:32 AM
You all are nuts if you believe the HOAX !!
simply research and you will find that this is the make-believe and imagination of some far conservative idiot.... Quran's verse 9:11 definately has a different meaning !!!!
Anyways, Iraq is truly has great historical significance for all religions and must not be destroyed... I believe that anyone who does attempt to touch it, will fail.. whether it be the americans, israelies or the rest of the middle east.. preserve all of our origin.... it was the origin of mankind !!!! PLEASE !!!!! It is GOD's will ! |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 | 08:11 PM
ah, Bane... proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time... wonder how he'd do with The Protocols of The Elders of Zion, long regarded as one of the greatest hoaxes in history? |
Distrot Justice Solitude
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 | 01:46 PM
The real writings you easily awed crowd.
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/HolKora.html
Lies! All Lies!!! |
Brad
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 | 10:41 PM
I think that First of all .... everyone needs to unserstand that they need to learn to spell... and we wonder why the USofA is going to shit!!!
Second.. half of the people that responded to this belong over there?! YorN?? and then you have the sick fucking people that that think that we need to help them out... FUCK YOU Live in my neighbor hood. we have poblems at home...... Let take care of them and then we can blow the shit out of everyone ELSE..!!!!! When are you all going to understad that it starts here then there |
Brad
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 | 10:43 PM
Sorry UDERSTAND |
Brad
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 | 10:43 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAH |
BugbearSloth
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 | 11:45 PM
Yep. I remember my first beer. |
quinn
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 | 01:35 PM
yeah um... u people are to hooked on conspiracy's and things... obviously all this like 911 codes and stuff has all been made up so the world will have more of a sence of what happen... cant people just accept it as a coincidence??
but i do believe this all has to do with the end of the world 😊 |
cliff4u2k
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 | 04:14 PM
12/08/04 16:11 Have we all become so blind, as it was given to us long ago and still today, Signs by GOD to informed us of what is to come. Thinking this out as it is in the BIBLE the most factual book known to me of the three.. We are entering what's call growing pains... Like yea .. somthing is about to give birth.. I can say this You and I just cannot imigine GOD's greatest plan the end of somthing and the begining of another.. SO are we all just so blind or numb to the FACT.. I guest we eat to much shyt which cloud our minds / perceptions of the truth. With the activites of forces around us its no wonder some can be so proud in what they do, their minds have been corrupted they have forgotton all they posessed in the beginning at birth.. No child has the mind to do evil, maddness and evil acts are learned from enviornments
one more thig what in the hell are Republicans going to do when ans if they get all.. Then want???? |
Maegan
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 | 08:48 AM
"No child has the mind to do evil"
I just have to dispute that. Did anyone watch the movie Bad Seed??
Anywho...I have NEVER bitten my daughter. But she got upset when I took something from her the other day (she was not supposed to be playing with it) and she BIT me. She grabbed the hand removing the item (fork) & clamped down. Now, she only has a single tooth in her gums...& 2 on their way out. But it was the agressive (sp?) behavior that I was freaked out about.
Also...I can't remember where...but I thought the bible mentioned that humans are born w/ original sin. Doesn't sin compel you to do wrong?
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Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 | 12:36 PM
babies bite and squeal for one reason: they are too small to fend off predators in any other manner. Nature gives us defences at any age, and a baby instinctively uses any and all means at their disposal. They Will bite the hand that feeds them, because not getting enough food in the wild would be fatal. They emit a high-pitched squeal to fend off predators in much the same way that grownups use distress whistles- it alarms the attacker, and makes known to others their plight. Now if we can only figure out why they pick their noses. |
Sweet Sue
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 10:47 PM
rah 9 |
Sweet Sue
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 10:50 PM
I started to say that the Quran in Surah 9 Chapter 11 says nothing about the Great Eagle: it merely says: But if you repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, then they are your brothers in religion and we detail the verses for a people who know. Who makes up all these distortions about the Quran and the Bible? Can't they read?Quit spreading all these lies! |
Leann
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 | 01:29 PM
Nefertari, obviously you have'nt been up on your research, if you had you would know that the inquisition killed far less people than most people claim it had. furthermore, all those who were killed were given a chance to repent, and the only reason they were put to death was because they had commited treason against there country and queen and king. now not all court systems are perfect we can tell this from our own county so unfortuanetly innocent people died, but out of the 100,000 people that were "claimed" to have been killed only around 2,000 actually were,
and did you know around the time people in jail actually wanted to be put in the inquistion system because it was handled more fairly and the conditions were better
so how about you research next time before you point fingers
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Maegan
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 | 11:32 AM
"Now if we can only figure out why they pick their noses."
To keep their fingers warm? |
Lee
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 10:07 AM
To whoever, I looked it up, the Quran thing is crap, but to "Chad" I've been to Babylon last year durring OIF 1 w/ the Marines and stood on a mound about a 1/4 mile or so in dia. and about 40-50 feet high. It sure did remind me of a "great tower" that came crumbling down. In a huge pit in the center there were very old remnents of pottery and what looked like some sort of melted or burnt material. I have some as in my possesion and pics if you think I'm full of shi#. There were also what appeared to be tar pits in decrative pools/buildings/housings that were used as decoration, or in a ritualistic manner near the mound. |
MJN
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 01:27 PM
Lee, so you as a soldier on expedition found the ruins of the Tower of Babel, or you think maybe you did or whatever, yeah... that's gonna happen. Nevermind all the expeditions and professionals who have spent their entire careers trying to prove these kinds of things all to no avail. But you, an average everyday American solved the mystery for all of mankind with just a few snapshots. Great... maybe next time I take my son fishing he'll find Noah's ark and we can put that one to rest too. Leean, How the hell do you or anybody know how many people were put to death, jailed, or put on trial FOR SURE during the crusades? Where you there? UNLESS you were actually present to witness the entire unfolding events... you're relying on collected data which like any other data could / can be INNACURATE. Some people say 100,000 died some say 2,000. I say no one and my wife says 5,000,000. NO ONE can answer definatively that question... not even accredited scholars... let alone YOU! Misti, you speak of facts that there is an almighty God higher and smarter than us or anyone we know... exactly what FACTS are you referring to? 😊 This one made me laugh the most. What facts, where and while we're at it... just for a reference point... what's your definition of a fact? You KNOW there is a God? Reality says... you Hope there's a God, you think there's a God, you believe there's a God... but you don't really KNOW that... you just don't even understand your own language or how to communicate with it. The Bible, Koran, whatever... they're all just a means to an end. A way to control a mindless, unquestioning mass of people in order to get them to behave the way you wish. Mindless drones who question NOTHING because of the fear of reprisal and losing out on the greatest reward knowable to man... cheating death and his inevitable END. Man has shown his STUPIDITY since the dawn of recorded time, and such a feable minded animal doesn't want to face the fact that when it's over it's over... THE END. Deal with it and make what little time we have better instead of wasting your time being a fanatic or bordering on that level... |
Jim
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 | 08:56 AM
So, I should support the troops, but not what they do? I should believe that they are good people who just happen to be willing to go and kill other people without a good reason? Wrong. The troops do what they do BECAUSE they are good people, not in spite of it. The war is the right thing to do, and the US and our troops are the only ones with the guts to do it.
And in case any are curious, I am a veteran. |
bikerman
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 | 09:16 PM
There is no proof involved in faith. All religion is based on faith not proof. By attempting to coopt science and re-write historical fact to prove your faith you belittle your belief.
The bible proves nothing it was written by men in a language most of us cannot read years after the events described either took place or didn't. If you belive it is true then most passages can be interpreted to mean just about anything you want. Just ask the Branch Davidians, the Mormons, the World Church of the Creator (racist group), or the Reverend Moon.
Your belief is just that - your belief. It means something to you and if it helps you get throught the reality of this life - then that is a good thing. If on the other hand you need to save other people - then back off. Who are we to pass judgement?
Science and religion are not inherently opposed to eachother.
The article is total crap a feeble attempt at the Socratic method. If a, b, c, & d are true the e must also be true. Sure if you're a moron.
Regarding the flood and the ark. Come on. Wouldn't there be some record of a geological event of that magnitude? Where did all the fresh water fish go? I assume the flood covered the entire planet right? 99.5% Salt water.
Poor trout. |
bikerman
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 | 09:21 PM
Jim I'm happy for you. Let's hope your life holds more promise than just being a veteran. There are plenty of veterans drinking away their sorrows at the local vet club wondering why their best friend is a beer can and a remote control.
War doesn't solve problems - $1 billion a week. Where is the ROI in that? I'm a businessman and that is a bad investment. Not to mention the people dying.
And, in care you're curious, I graduated from a military academy.
Life is for living. |
Lee
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 12:58 PM
I was trying so hard not to respond to the complete, and total escrement that is being spewed by a few lost children who apparently are so full of shit that's all spills forward like a broken septic drain line spewing into the clear blue river of truth. Yeah, you are specifically pathetic. Military Acadamy my ass! War isn't designed to solve problems. Dumbass! It's to kill as many dumbasses, such as yourself, as possible to keep them in check and not pollute the rest of the world. Too bad you wern't a country, because people like you deserve to be turned into a glass parking lot. F.U. And by the way every archoligical dig and historic writting support what the bible has said. Look it up asswipe if you can remove you head out of your ass long enough for your eyes to focus? Probably not though. It says in Daniel 12:8-10 "but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand." I think God just called you a "dumbass". By the way don't bother responding I'm shutting off the response notification because of your uncilil ways. I pray you find the Truth. The reason he doesn't come and walk on water for YOU is He already did it and had His own deciples turn on Him. It's in some peoples nature....Like YOURS. But let me remind you of this little fact....everyone dies and you didn't make me! Who made you???????????????????!!!!!!!!! |
JoeSixpack
Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 01:54 PM
Lee, You misspelled "excrement". You seem pretty angry, Lee. Is that how Jesus tells you to respond to post's you disagree with? |
MJN
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 | 12:18 PM
Dear Sixpack, It is completely useless to ask a MINDLESS DRONE like Lee if that's how Jesus would want him to respond. The reason being is that he can just interpret his vague guidlines anyway necessary in order to suit his current needs. WWJD??? Besides, you can't really blame them... they've been duped their entire lives right down to giving a set amount of their income (10% - Why does God need money?) by a bunch of controlling perverted priests. The mere thought or someone even asking questions elicits a response of anger and violence? When you're discussing a supposed ALL-LOVING diety? His reaction only serves to cement the obvious, just another aspect of behaviour drilled into him by a corrupt intitution. Not that science or society are all that great themselves but this whole church / religion thing is SO corrupt and it's ideas so corrupted that their response / defense obviously points towards the truth. |
Lee
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 | 02:14 PM
mjn, The whole anger thing comes from being quiet so long while self proclaimed "enlightened ones" such as yourself spew contrieved sudo intelectual "knowledge" like it's fact written in stone, and when you stepped on my fellow vetern who protected "your" GOD GIVEN RIGHTS I couldn't take any more. Go to a Godless country and see how many rights you have!!! NO!? But you'll set here on your protected self indulgent rear and scream demands when you're protected...It's common knowledge that Christian minds, with "God Given" right built this country that allow such "self" serving, self destructive idealisms that you self subscribe to. Protected by a 90%+ christian military, Blessed by a loving/living God. My anger also comes from your complete lack of understanding on any manner concerning mankind. You are a spoiled rotten little brat who has to be restrained and spanked for your own good. And not only for your own good but that of all mankind. If you had it your way you would be in a slave labor camp, all the women would be in sex camps or in ovens, and all the strong, Christian and "good" people would be exicuted. Think it can't happen!!!??? Look at history "oh enlightened one" ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO CONQUER IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING. and I'm tired of being a lap dog for Satan. I bet you think Einstien is an idiot because he said "God doesn't play dice." Meaning every thing is designed by a Designer not left to chance. And Quantium physics states a single protien molecule is beyond the odds of chance to be considered "impossible" that it created itself. If anyone disagrees w/ these comments please do your homework and research the facts before responding. I know the only response liberals can come up w/ is " No it isn't" or " Yes it is!!. Come on have a little more "self" respect. |
MJN
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 | 03:01 PM
Dear Mr. Fanatic, (aka Lee) You crack me up! For your information, I myself am a veteran. AG2 in the USN with the mobile team out of Yokuska, Japan. I'm HARDLY a spoiled little brat... just willing to discuss without acting like a fanatic when subjects to which I don't agree are brought up. You said about me and other like me something like...
'spew contrieved sudo intelectual "knowledge" like it's fact written in stone,'
to which I would like for you to show me where and exactly with what I did this? In fact it is you who are doing this because you've let your emotion control your response to this dialogue. Einstein and MOST of quantum physics involve (here's the important part for you to remember and look up in the dictionary) THEORIES. Einstein's "theory" of relativity, etc. etc. They might very well have some truth to them, be all truth, or be all bunk... however, YOU'RE the one who seems to forget that in the end they are theory. Do you know the meaning of that word? Go to a Godless country you intruct me? Well... it would seem that I've done just that huh? Considering the lengths THIS country (USA)is going to in order to distance itself from GOD. i.e.-seperation of church and state. Can't even put the 10 commandments (which are a good idea no matter their origin) in a court house where the voters clearly want them??? I am in a godless country. My rights as a human being aren't God-given... please otherwise where was he for all the other humans in history... my rights are human given driven by enlightenment of society. Boo-hoo... funny how every time someone doesn't agree w/ your point of view you resort to violence... and now your posting of spanking me??? You're a priest aren't you Lee? Perv...
If you had it your way you would be in a slave labor camp, all the women would be in sex camps or in ovens, and all the strong, Christian and "good" people would be exicuted.
What the hell is this all about? You are such a fruit-loop fanatic... If I had "my" way "I'd" be in a slave labor camp??? Seems to me like you're the one who wants to do away w/ anyone who has differing beliefs, not me. You can believe what ever you want... you're the one ranting at everyone else because they don't agree w/ you. Sound's a little like Islam to me... "kill all who don't agree..."
And Quantium physics states a single protien molecule is beyond the odds of chance to be considered "impossible" that it created itself.
No it doesn't... in fact that was addressed on this website just recently and data / computations were addressed via a link. You do your homework... or go pray... or go plan on how you can do away w/ an infidel like me... Fanatic. Simple minds like yours are what are holding back the human race... and the reason there's still violence in the name of your ALL-LOVING, ALL-FORGIVING God... you are so blind in your brainwashed state that you don't even see the irony and confliction in these matters. Even the bible contradicts itself... God loves all, forgives all, destroys all, kills all, orders the killing of his own children... PLEASE. You're just a close-minded, ignorant, brain-washed SUCKER... who gets pissed when anyone suggests as much. I bet free speech just pisses you off to no end huh? |
JoeSixpack
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 | 03:22 PM
It's spelled "pseudo-intellectual", Lee and MJN. "Pseudo" is a greek prefix meaning "false".
When Einstein said "God doesn't play dice" he was referring to the probablaistic nature of quantum physics. He was speaking metaphoriclly, and he was later proved wrong, because there IS in fact a randomness to quantum mechanics. So,metaphoriclly speaking, God DOES play dice. |
Lee
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 | 03:34 PM
God Bless you all. I rest my case. |
Citizen Premier
in spite of public outcry
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 | 06:26 PM
Iraq is a place of deep roots, but many of the ancient artifacts are gone now, thanks to inadequate protection during the war. Thank goodness we've clensed Iraq of all that dang history. |
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 | 12:19 AM
To those of you who "Think" 1-19 are correct - STUDY the Bible - you will find that they are not all correct. Some are makes it easier to send through a lie... (On question ever search the Bible for "The Empire of Man" ?? ) How about 10 tribes versus 12 tribes of Israel ?)
As for the Quran verse (sure sounds so beautiful with spacious skys..does it not.. ) But it is not True ...So before you give Carte Blanche to bits and pieces because they are said to be "from the Bible" - do a little checking - do you sit in the pew on sunday morning and believe every word preached - or do you check it out in the Bible and Pray and Ask God what he meant when he gave it to men by inspiration of his Holy Spirit. |
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 | 09:14 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the passage referred to as having come from the Koran sounds very similiar to modern translations of Jeremiah chapters 50 and 51 from the Bible. In the King James is reads slightly differently, but nonetheless contextually the same. I've received this email now in three different forms, this one being the most misleading where the Quran 9:11 passage is concerned. As indicated in previous posts however, specific to the biblical information, all of that is accurate to my recollection. |
anu
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 01:01 AM
all you yous, just wait till momma comes home! |
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 03:02 PM
Yawn.... blaa blaaa blaaa something important, blaaa blaaa blaaa. Well as long as I have a good American gas station to pump gallons and gallons of fuel into my 98 Ford Crown Vic... I say we keep killing them 😊 |
lecleaner
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 11:08 PM
Boy...a lot of real boneheads post here it seems. |
lecleaner
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 11:10 PM
and why are there so many post ripping the "you people" when no one who posted seemed to think this drivel was true..? |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 | 10:27 AM
lecleaner,
Did you read all the posts' or just the last few? There are a few on here who seem to believe most / some / all of the message. Take "Lee" for example... read some of his posts. Yes a lot of boneheads do indeed post here... like yourself for example. People, as a whole, have a bad habit of opening mouth and inserting foot. Making themselves look like an idiot by speaking without taking time to think about what they're going to say first. Good-day...
I SAID GOOD-DAY SIR... |
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 | 08:11 AM
All the Bible references are likely true, except Peter did not preach in Iraq. Simon the Zealot did - a different Simon than Simon Barjona (Peter). No one knows where the Garden of Eden actually was but given the reference to the great rivers it was likely in Iraq.
The Koran quote is a fraud. However, there is an interesting Bible quote in Isaiah:
Isaiah 14: 4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.
6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.
7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.
10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?
11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; |
X
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 | 08:25 AM
If Jesus's name was "Bob" could you take him seriously??? |
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