Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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From my understanding, 15+ years as a Satanist, GM is psychodrama. You seem to infer that GM can be a psychodrama but that a psychodrama is not all that GM is.
What was posted and attributed to Magister Nemo, infers that viewing GM as psychodrama, is a non-serious (inferior) perspective.
" Almost all of my GM rituals have manifested results outside of my Ritual Chamber."
Mine as well. But I ascribe the manifestations in the outside world to my personal actions in the world. GM helps me focus my energies to act in the world. You seem to imply that there is something to GM beyond the psychological. Am I misunderstanding your words?
" Reread the literature all of this is explained. There is more going on in the world than your senses tell you. Use it as psychodrama if you want but don't be suprised if you actually manifest that which you desire using this method."
You seem to say that GM is more than psychodrama. GM is understood as psychodrama as I understand it. I have read all of Dr.LaVeys books as well as Magistra Bartons and Magus Gilmore, many times over.
"Satanic magical praxis differs from the standard occultnik definition."
Satanic magic (GM) is psychodrama to release emotions. Do you have a different definition of it? Is this is the case, how is your alternate definition in line with the philosophy of Dr.LaVey?
Greater Magic is a psychological device. This is the only interpretation used by Satanists (as far as I know). If is more than psychodrama, then how do you propose it works? Is there a force or entity, that you propose is responsible for it working?
Hail Satan!
Ana
Well....how about a word from the Undead Gods!
and I quote:
Occultnik: "I'm about 2/3 through Revelations. I'm reading about the act of Vamparism. I'll just state a simple question: Could any after-effects of this act be more along the lines of a Placebo Effect than any actual Lifeforce exchange/drawing taking place?"
Undead God: "Could it be? Yes.
Is it? That's for you to determine through experimentation and observation.
We mean it when We state: "Test everything, believe nothing.""
Occultnik: "How accurate can your validations be? You're familiar with the Placebo Effect, correct? It's an effect based on mental deception. Could your psychology be telling you it's real when the reality of things is not such? I'm careful of Self Deception. I plan on testing everything, but wanted some other people's opinions on the point I brought up."
Undead God: "Those opinions are reserved for discussions in the Graded Forums.
Meanwhile, keep working. The answer should arrive through your efforts, and not others opinions. After all, others opinions could be based on self deception. How would you know?
Apply what you find in The Vampire Bible. Not once, not twice, but continuously."
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Sounds like alot of fun....what a great orgainization!
Super Undead God: "I only wanted to add that you might benefit from also studying Revelations as it addresses the question of how to validate issues in a universe in which no single view of reality is adequate."
Note: this response was by "Super Undead God" not just Undead God.
and I quote:
Super Undead God: "Occultnik Newbie*, you are very much confusing fact and fancy.
The Temple is real.
It is not a roleplaying game.
It is not a movie.
From the Dayside perspective, Vampires are members of the Vampire religion which is represented only through this Temple.
From the Nightside perspective as explained in The Vampire Bible, Vampires can draw the excess Lifeforce from humans to exchange with the more refined and imprinted Lifeforce of the more advanced members, the Undead Gods.
The completion of this Nightside circuit of Power is what transforms the Nightside Vampire. Nothing else does. Nowhere else can. This is the Source.
At this point no one here is expected to believe anything about the Nightside. That is for you to test and validate on your own or, if you enter Graded active membership, with other Graded active members.
So that you will not embarrass yourself here, please take all of the fiction you have been exposed to and leave it outside the Gate of this Temple.
Adults only."
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*I won't give out names, just replace them with Undead Gods or Occultnik Newbie.
I'm just curious why Nemo left ToS and decided to start his own thing.
I'm just curious why Nemo left ToS and decided to start his own thing."
I doubt you "read through this entire thread".
The whole story is on this thread..a couple of times over. Go back through the thread and find it for yourself!
The ToV is the only group with a bait and switch scam that coerces members into purchasing 30k+ cryonics contracts in order to advance to the "higher" levels of the group.
Notice how cryonics is NOT MENTIONED on their website. It is not because if it was, they'd get zero new members a month!
No other occult group does anything like this. So until the Temple of Set starts requiring their members to purchase cryonics contracts or invest their capital in something the founder finds of worth, I would not mention these two groups in the same breath!
The only "self improvement" group comparable to the Temple of the Vampire is Scientology.
Can the Count from Sesame Street defend the Bait and Switch? Why is cryonics hidden from prospective members until they are "ready" to know it is required for "advancement"?
Not really. They have all been refuted by the mere fact that your "vampirism" is a fucking scam.
Now, improve the earth and commit suicide.
There is no scam you pay the money and the services (the books, access to the messageboard) are delivered.
I hope the Temple's lawyers are monitoring this thread becaue there is a lot of liable being thrown around.
that being said, everyone here who calls tov a scam or vampires in the sense in which tov presents them as unreal or fake, is simply the uninitiated zombie creature. how adequately termed as foodstock indeed, by such as the higher tov members.
there are countless things which cannot be explained and defy words. but which may well be felt inside our souls. the requirement for this is of course that one has the soul to begin with. without it is the very zombie state many today talk about, but few truly grasp. or go beyond it, for that matter.
embrace death. make her yuor beloved queen. love her with yuor whole heart and soul. if you do, she will surely make you her king. an immortal king at that! and then yuo will fear no more! not death and not life either! and to not fear death and life is to be human. becayuse within this flesh, you cannot become god among gods, but you can become god among humans. so to this and infinitely more too we drink tonite! the blood of life! amen!
Ars longa, vita brevis!
I can only say Thank You for making such points known about the Human Psyche, from the Vampire Perspective.
What you call Soul I call Conscience, one of these has been defined and verified by Science and the other held sacred by God-Fearing religions the world over.
The ToV framework is based on Deception, from begining to end, truely the work of a Sociopathic
Mastermind.
The ToV has "Divisions" of Lawyers....funny.
Well, I'm going to go back to my "Squirming" now...the reason for the brief lapse in posting by some of us is because we were celebrating after darius' fine piece of writing.
"Lord of the Flies"
let me elaborate a bit.. not for my sake but for yours.. I ate too much wisdom once you see, I was hungry you see, starving to death, your regular food just wasn't enough.. this stinky flesh is such a useless little thing.. abomination... so I was begging for it, for more.. and so they fed me... now no man can change me.. you should try begging too... just be pure at it.. let it all go.. and then you can get so much more than you give...
so here it comes then the wisdom I have for you: everything is based on deception in this world. your job is to make sure you create for yourself and live in a reality which corresponds to the finest, most refined, most wonderful, most amazing, most grandiose of all deceptions..or if you will, the one which feels right to the soul (or whichever word your little mind prefers to call it). of course, while remaining perfectly aware in so doing that this deep feeling inside your soul is too nothing more but a deception.
nearly complete insanity is basically the way to go.
don't you dare call tov a deception again. when your entire life, existence, and your whole being to its very core is nothing more than deception too. and a way less refined one at that.
I would say you should feel ashamed of yourself, and then this feeling could be your start in some better direction.. but do you have the necessary qualities for that... to feel ashamed.. good question... this is probably why you and your kind always was and always will be nothing more than food on someone else's plate.
And don't pass up Count telling us he doesn't waste his time on this thread only 12 minutes after the accusation. 😁
Count and Darius: If you think you represent your cult so well, tell us your names on Lifeforce. I'm certain you'll be rewarded by the Nemo family for showing us all how legitimate the Temple is!
Then reveal me to the world, tell everyone who I am so they can ban me from Lifeforce and Letters to the Devil. The only possible reason you wouldn't is because:
You vampires are all full of shit! Nothing but old cult lies and threats!
You bit, now swallow.
And you type like rOr. Admit who you are and I'll give you a cookie.
I won't talk much more to you.. because you love words too much. so this is my last talk to you... I want to say this is not about being this or that or vampire, you're stuck on words or titles. that's just wrong. if I were you I'd look beyond words and definitions.
I don't understand.. you have infinity and eternity awaiting you, all of you, and you settle for this mediocre state of being. you're here to evolve within your realm of the humanly possible, not to go backwards or stay in one place til death do you part.
get a life will ya. do something. come on! fast for a month.. stand on your head... take cold showers daily and in winter... burn your skin with a knife.. or cut it here and there... or don't masturbate for a year.. I mean come on.. just do something.. just try... so what if you fail.. this is about trying.. there are ways.. methods.. way older than you.. way wiser than you... just try something.. so your life gains meaning and I feel bit better and brighter from it too.
just like you said shite and named yourself after a word in rev stronbones signature to make it look like you are him. but then you said shit. you are both very poor deceivers and very terrible people.
Why don't you pull the corn cob out of your asses and get a god damn fucking life, idiots?
I'm going to go on enjoying my life to the fullest, accepting my mortality, knowing I'll have lived a life well lived. Nothing wasted, indeed.
Over and out,
The Shit.
Good satanic advice from the Temple of the Vampire! I can see why count likes you!
You really represent your Temple well Markie Mark! You read it hear first, Temple of the Vampire members endorse self mutilation.
People will assume the Church of Satan does the same because they endorse that VERY Satanic institution.
And I am not faking Reverend Strongbone. I am female so I hate Reverend Strongbone.
You said you could read my mind darius, don't disappoint us. Tell them all who I really am or admit you and your Temple are full of fake psychopathic wannabe shite. Or shit. We say both here.
You are welcome in my Chamber anytime.
HS/HT
all methods are valid that allow you to escape the condition of ignorance and stupidity and weakness in which you presently find yourself.
I only mentioned a few methods. there should be a few million more to your disposal. it's up to you to do the work and find out what works. I could not do that work for you even if I wanted to. but maybe if I could then I would want to.
look it's very simple. you just have to evolve. or die trying. that's all. and I have to help you evolve. or die trying. that's pretty simple too.
now remember all this next time you want to masturbate or take a nice hot steamy shower. I have such sense of humor.
well! sun is almost up! goodnite kids and happy day dreaming!
What is completely evident to anyone here with half-a-brain is that your path has lead you to some serious "devolving".
Nemo, you really did a number on Mr. RoR....The poster child for mind-control.
RoR, I just wanted to let you know, your an experiment gone wrong. When Nemo gives you the boot for being a Liability, your going to need some deprogramming....I'm sure there is someone here who can point you in the right direction.
You guys remind me of a Rocky Horror Picture Show Audience gone wrong.
I hope you can figure out a way to "evolve" your Red-Cards right out of your pockets and into the trash can.
"Lord of the Flies"
your world and reality is a prison. you cannot escape it, you can only realize its a prison and enjoy your stay more because of it. then they let you out of yoru cell so yuo can roam around a bit more free.. to other parts of the prison.
I don't like talkign to hopeless inmates like yuo. I prefer to save energies for others who do not bite the hand that wants help them like some mad dogs on disco treats.
the only way you can understand me is if you change your genes into something other than they are now. and since you clearly aren't born that way, it means you have to work twice as hard. so I suggest you stop wasting your time.
Are you accepting students?
Thank you my Master for your attentiveness.
We have decided to give some of you, one more chance. If you do not post here again, you IP address will not be delivered to the proper authorities and you will be allowed to continue on with your existences as they are.
If this friendly, advantageous, and generous offer is not taken advantage of, then you have left us no recourse but to proceed with legal proceedings.
It is easy to make the right choice but very costly to make the wrong one in this situation.
Choose wisely.
Are you not a source of these teachings?
Master, where can I get these teachings?
I sense you are the fountainhead of the spirit. By spirit, I mean that which cannot be destroyed or removed. I feel you are here to help those who are ready for your teachings.
Please help me leave this prison. Show me the way.
just keep tuning it til you hear something worth hearing.. and even then or especially then, continue to listen and tune it
I guess you could say we're like walking breathing radios
go join temple of vampire. at least there you won't be among the mindless useless creatures of this world that think they know it all when in reality they are just a dead piece of meat sitting on someone else's dinner plate.
one question for you, what do you think about cryonics being part of the temples "teaching"?
i dont know if it jives with the rest of the vampire teachings. the cryonics thing is the only thing prevenenting me from signing up and giving it a shot.
darius,what is your opinion on this?
well in a way constsntly thinking (as in being aware) of death is almost a guaranteed way of getting yuo slightly illuminated.. just like sitting around watching your breath 24/7 will do the trick.. or not ejaculating for few years.. but I still say do not think or worry about death... just enjoy life.. and if you must think about death or cryonics then at least don't fear it. I don't think fear is good for immortals. cause it shortens their lives.
so it's all about passion.. in words of some great man way greater than i am.. "there is no begining and no end, only infinite passion for life"
this is what makes difference between vampires, satanists and the average worthless animal that daers call himself man today.. the passion. nothing mroe and nothing less.
pure passion for life in its every passing moment makes everything you touch turn to gold and everyone in your way standing it turns into ash and dust
I call it passion but its only a word.. in reality its a complex series of many things.. from soul, spark of god, illumination, wisdom courage patience virtue.. etc.. and many mroe.. all combined in right amounts and yielding proper results.
I think you shoudl do step by step. join the temple. then see where that takes you. instead of thinking about cryonics and end of your life already now. the aim of temple if I see clearly is to help you become immortal. nto through cryonics.. so think of cryonics as may be some sort of last resort method. and concentrate on other methods that lead to immortality. of soul. cause its pretty likely if you make your soul immortal, the body will love it so much that it will not want to rot and die either.
I have an inspirational quote for you because you have faith.. this is from a fine soul who was aurobindo... a vampire.. I was next to him when he took his last breath.. so if ever yuo find yourself in some darkness (the bad kinda darkness that is) then remember these words.. they served me well when I was once just a confused child of man.
so this is jsut small passage from savitri epic.... in the next post I make here it will be..
I saw the Omnipotent's flaming pioneers
Over the heavenly verge which turns towards life
Come crowding down the amber stairs of birth;
Forerunners of a divine multitude,
Out of the paths of the morning star they came
Into the little room of mortal life.
I saw them cross the twilight of an age,
The sun-eyed children of a marvellous dawn,
The great creators with wide brows of calm,
The massive barrier-breakers of the world
And wrestlers with destiny in her lists of will,
The labourers in the quarries of the gods,
The messengers of the Incommunicable,
The architects of immortality.
Into the fallen human sphere they came,
Faces that wore the Immortal's glory still,
Voices that communed still with the thoughts of God, Bodies made beautiful by the spirit's light,
Carrying the magic word, the mystic fire,
Carrying the Dionysian cup of joy,
Approaching eyes of a diviner man,
Lips chanting an unknown anthem of the soul,
Feet echoing in the corridors of Time.
High priests of wisdom, sweetness, might and bliss, Discoverers of beauty's sunlit ways
And swimmers of Love's laughing fiery floods
And dancers within rapture's golden doors,
Their tread one day shall change the suffering earth And justify the light on Nature's face.
which books by sri aurobindo do you recommend? i can only afford one right now. are there other books you recommend beside those in the temple suggested reading list? thnx
still I am nothing compared to the gods. or to some men comapred I am nothing also. it's onlyt because of the quality of the human is so low today that it is so easy to appear wise. these are good days for false prophets and gurus, and many take advantage of that. so be careful if you want a master or guru.
if yuo truly want to find out where you stand on the evolutionary ladder, you would have to spend some time with aurobindo or shakespear or crowley or mozart or rembrant or someone else like this. genius is the name of the game. its genius that runs the show. because genius is god. everyone is follower only. ignore them, they are nothing but fools and every word they speak and thought they think is poison to those who truly strive for perfection.
the world is made of two kinds, predator and prey. you will know you made progress when humans will run away from you at the very sight of you. they will do that because they do not like you knowinf their weakness better than they know it themselves. but to be able to do that, you have to first master that weakness in yourslef.
hence the old saying that you must hate all weakness in others, but most of all, you must hate all weakness in yourself.
average humans are only here to serve and show to you what you must not become. what you must surpass. you can do that in isolation, on some lonely mountaintop one on one with yourself, exploring etc. but maybe things are the way they are, big populations and you part of it all, so that it may be easier for some of us to realize this while at some live concert when you sit in the very middle of a 20 thousand sceraming crowd.
instead of that lonely mountaintop
so yuuo see I don't really have reading suggestions for you. because I extract things from everything. many just repeat each other anyway.. because they all draw from same source.
this is why there is no such thing as my teachings or crowley's teachings or aurobindo teachings. it's just the higher planes merging with the lower planes. if it's yoru time to hear the divine music
just keep listening and fine tuning your isntrument it's all we can do
sooner or later something will happen
even if nothing happens, the genuine seeker finds enough joy and reward in the tryign and striving
in short, no step is every lost on this path.
but all other paths, they mean nothing and are waste of time
Slade fucking Wilson?
Deathstroke the Terminator is posting here?
I guess you are still a pawn of Darkside's.
Clark will kick your ass.
Maybe Lex will post next.
Magister Lang, are you related to Lana? yes or no?
Let me mention Smallville final episode spoilers for the search engines to pick this thread up.
@ Priest Dick-Shadow. I know who you are. The only lawyers you have are the ones on the T.V. commericals...and you haven't even called 'em!
@ Rupert, dude u is too quiet. You and anonymous need to get more active or this shadow-dick priest will think that they scared peeps off.
@ Sand, where the FUCK are u man?
@ Dariusm, WTF does yoga have to do with the ToV?
Seriously, Aurobindo? really? Reconcile that with the ToV philosophy for me if you can. I think u are a good person being misled. Reconcile cryonics with your beliefs. U can't. I'm a big douglas harding fan. Tempt me!
some vampires have 1000 thoughts per minute. others have one thought per hour.
it's what canme with my rebirth package. I was never given a paper with options to check. like a contract for car purchase. I did not check the option that said "one thought per hour" versus 1000 thoughts per second.
I think it's safe to say, just as one human may be different from abnother.. so may there be differences between vampires. I think it would be less interesting to have it any other way than this.
Way to rationalise your moronic faith, retarded dipshit.
You may well be right. But mummification never worked. Cryonics has a big chance of simply not working either.
What bullshit will you come up with next?
Show me!
I'd post more links but I'm on my iphone
Q: Has an animal ever been cryopreserved and revived?
A: Small roundworms (nematodes) and possibly some insects can survive temperatures below -100
This is what I asked you.
I am aware some organisms can live at sub-zero temperatures and survive in a sort of suspended animation state.
You still aren't showing me any evidence that cryonics (as being sold by the scam artists of EUCRIO, CI and Alcor, etc) works.
The Count, give up. Just live your life and accept your mortality. Of course I know it will take much more than mere words to convince you. Maybe a kick in the gonads could work? You stupid little retards. The future has nothing in store for you. Keep having faith in lies and deceit.
I will continue to do great things for myself and my loved ones, while you dipshits continue with your meaningless lives based on a delusion. Keep licking Nemo's anus. Have fun.