Is Jim Morrison Alive?

image Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.

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On the contrary,I AM demanding an explanation!!! LOYER stand up!!I am right here waiting.
Posted by me  on  Thu Apr 22, 2010  at  06:21 AM
Coward?How is miss janet a coward? It's not her or The Doors responsibility to act on this.And I believe The Doors mockery and silence about this Is their answer enough.Loyer doesn't need The Doors permission for anything.Nor does he need their approval or blessing.Bill is a big boy,fully grown,and has nothing to be ashamed of or scared of.S of L is protection enough.Being that Jim Morrison is so very much loved,if it really was him,we would just love him even more.And help him any way we can also.Speaking of help,has bill loyer ever'helped'? the starving homeless children he claims to help?!I know some starving homeless people and kids that are suffering while Bill plays with horses and upsets us with this game.If he only really did care........
Posted by me  on  Thu Apr 22, 2010  at  07:37 AM
Loyer has talked with Cliffy. Some timme ago. Ray can't deny it. Densmore knows the face and Robbie probably hopes it isn't him. Well
Posted by Davy in OOntario  on  Sat Apr 24, 2010  at  01:50 AM
If you really DID know 'cliffy',then you know how that conversation went.
Posted by horses ears  on  Sat Apr 24, 2010  at  08:09 AM
Hi Horse. Just passin rumors, also what I have heard. First he isn't then he is, then not. whew
I know that conversation was close to 4 years ago. I don't want in on it. But I had to chime in. I don't have a clue.
Posted by Davy in OOntario  on  Sat Apr 24, 2010  at  01:17 PM
Hello. Well I do KNOW how that conversation went.Unfortunatly these rumors are created by thinking and not knowing.And unlike all the Morrison lovers,haters, and wannabes out there who think they know something or anything but really know nothing at all,unless cliff gives me permission to air the laundry,I will not do so.
Posted by horses business  on  Sat Apr 24, 2010  at  02:21 PM
Horsey, I doubt there ever was such a conversation. Loyer has been dodging the people who could really expose his scam for years now. I simply don't believe he'd have the stones to contact Jim's son, and I can't imagine why Cliff would give him the time of day.

Cliff never knew his father, of course--didn't even find out who his father was until the early 90s, I believe--but his grandfather the Admiral would certainly have clued him in about Loyer's fraud if Cliff had ever broached the subject.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sun Apr 25, 2010  at  11:39 AM
On the other hand, Cliff the Christian walks the walk as well as talks the talk, and I understand that at one point he felt sympathy for that other Morrison fraud--much more successful in terms of $$ than Loyer--whose initials are PK, since she was being accused of the same things Cliff was.

The difference, of course, is that --just like Loyer--she's a fake Morrison who deserves every bit of vituperation thrown her way, whereas Cliff is the Real Thing and doesn't.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sun Apr 25, 2010  at  03:05 PM
Some are so consumed with who they are,some who they want to be,and some who they are not,that what really matters most, is left in the dust and no one gives a f****** sh** about what is hurt or left behind .If someone or anyone really gave a s**t, it would mean something.Yet through it all,Hope springs eternal.
Posted by horses sadness  on  Sun Apr 25, 2010  at  09:05 PM
The conversation did happen with a few ph. calls. They were both searching. Information shows a variation in Cliffs last name years ago. Prove to the ones that matter since you seem to think you are such an authority.
Posted by David Logan  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  01:57 AM
For me,Authority was given when I was in my own garden of Gethsemane,and God did not take this cup from me.My perseverance through the storms, Made me stronger and mad.Walking out the door One thousand times.Yet,its my unconditional love and caring ,that proves it every single second of every single day to what matters most.Sometimes what I write has many different meanings wrapped up with a nice bow and other times shredded to pieces.
Posted by horses sadness  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  06:48 AM
It doesn't appear so. We like you horse with no name. Or so many names. I would like to meet somebody who is in control every single second of everyday. I am out of control about half the time. Remember what Paul said. As I ride the white horse the black is always trying to pull ahead. The tongue is a flame that can devour your world...or something like that. One spark can set the whole forest on fire. Hold the reins. May your God who I know is true bless Cliff, you and all.
Posted by David Logan  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  12:25 PM
With you possibly excluded and a very few others, Loyer says some people here don't know s***. If you will pardon the asterisk. It is apperant. It is passion. A sense of belonging. It is food to know something.
Posted by David Logan  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  12:55 PM
I know a little spark that will leave the forest in flames.I say then I will not be a horse with no name. Tho I may walk away from this ravenous fire,it only seems my tongue alone might I retire.For you see to have loved and have lost is easily spun,but to have loved and to have gained Is hard to have won. I have been loved Madly enough to walk out that door, just like I've done a thousand times before.When there is nothing u can do God said to just stand,I Know who will be there holding my hand. As I look in the eyes of his blood turned to gold,it isn't money or possessions that I am left here to hold.But a Soul made of him.
Posted by horses mark  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  03:09 PM
Logan .Let's take a certain definition of Authority out of the equation.Control.Which should have no bearing on love (OR proof).Most people mix it with love.Control to me is not powerful(I guess except when you are riding a horse lol).When you learn somethings are out of your control,and you accept it,well the feeling is priceless,easy,and there you can actually feel some peace.example.God doesn't even have full control, he gave us free will.But God has authority and is powerful 😊
Posted by horses reins  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  10:53 PM
Agreed. When I mentioned authority i waas directing towards some of these guessing gamers. They're talking about my friend who is fine man whether he is in the loop and is or not in the loop and isn't.I know the answer. What a wonderful story.
Posted by David Logan  on  Tue Apr 27, 2010  at  03:12 AM
the future's uncertain, and the end is always near.
Posted by the goods  on  Tue Apr 27, 2010  at  07:12 PM
This afternoon I called Florida's Honorable Governor Charlie Crist to thank him again for not siging the bill which would have pardoned Jim Morrison posthumously. I spoke one of the Governor's phone reps and she heard me out for over 6 minutes.

I told her that famous Florida native Jim Morrison was alive with the name Bill Loyer. And that Cliff Morrison was probably his son and has a distinguished career going for himself. That the DOORS don't want to have nothing to do with Bill Loyer as they are profiting quite heavily with Jim being believed dead.

I mentioned this site, because of the numerous wonderful posts here. And finally I told her to again thank Governor Crist for not giving into David Diamond to sign the document set out to embarrass our government. I wished Gov. Crist the best in the upcoming election as he runs again, this time as an independent (there's corruption in politics too, not just rock and roll).
Posted by JLizard  on  Fri Apr 30, 2010  at  03:56 PM
I doubt that it's necessary to call Gov. Christ's office and point out that you are a raving lunatic who has absolutely no standing to speak for anyone but your own demented self, but I might give them a call on Monday anyway, just to share a good laugh with them--and to make sure they understand that pardoning Jim is the correct, the moral, and the just thing to do.

Now listen up, everyone: Jim Morrison--the real one--was the ultimate anti-establishment rebel, and he despised most politicians generally and Richard Nixon particularly. I can't even imagine what he'd have had to say about Ronnie Raygun and Bush I (Poppy), Bush II (Dubya), and Bush III (aka Barack Obama).

Anyone who thinks this man could have somehow morphed into a far Right, born-again "my country right or wrong, love it or leave it" so-called Christian is delusional (never mind the vast physical differences between Jim Morrison and Bill Loyer).

The REAL Jim Morrison had nightmares about being sent to prison, where he was certain he'd be murdered by just that sort of redneck, hippie-hating yahoo. THAT was why he went to France--which has no extradition treaty with this country--and THAT"s why he had no intention of coming back unless he won his appeal.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Fri Apr 30, 2010  at  04:36 PM
(Tosses Janet a roll of tp) Yes, Bill Loyer did actually say, and I quote, "They wanted to arrest me and send me to prison. But I couldn't go there. They would have killed me."
Posted by JLizard  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  06:59 AM
Apparently you've forgotten that Bill Loyer is an ex-con who served time for burglary in the mid-70s, as he related to the L.A. Times reporter who interviewed him in February 1988:

Asking for help has meant swallowing his pride, and the publicity has its own price tag for Loyer. He talked reluctantly Sunday of his private difficulties: his marital problems, his financial troubles, his bout with drugs and some prison time for burglary 14 years ago before his children were born. Much of it explains why he is in this motel room with seven children running around like cowboys and Indians.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  11:13 AM
Forgot to include the link:

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-02-22/local/me-29919_1_motel-room?pg=1
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  11:32 AM
Jan,
You're scratching the surface as to how much Bill loves his children and how much love is in this man's heart.
Posted by Jlizard  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  01:29 PM
And you're dodging the issue, as usual.

I don't give a damn how much love is in this person's heart for his children, he's still a fraud and a liar who's been impersonating another--and much better--man for years.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  02:07 PM
Looks like Jim got Crist Crossed !

That is not the same Loyer.

Janet if Jim were alive he would be sick, to see we have a President who Larry Sinclair said he had sex with and coke back in 1999.

Obama = Jimmy Carter on Steroids
Posted by Peabody  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  03:55 PM
Forgot to include the link:


http://www.larrysinclair.com/
Posted by Peabody  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  03:58 PM
I'm scratching my head in amazement. Gov Charlie Crist has an advertisement asking for support for his senate run on this page at the Museum of Hoaxes! Maybe he has really investigated this site. Everyone, go out of their way to tell someone in FL to vote Charlie Crist for Senate!
Posted by JLizard  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  04:10 PM
Dear Peabody:

1. No question whatsoever that it's the same Loyer, and

2. Barack Obama is a Reagan Republican. As Bruce Dixon of the blog Black Agenda Report put it so succinctly,

In health care*, as in war and peace, as in the environment and education, as in the rights of women and immigrants, the First Black President's historic role is clear. His job is to smile and speechify and neutralize the left on every front, while taking the country further to the right than his white Republican predecessor would ever have been able.

*Obama's so-called "socialist" health care plan was actually cooked up back in the 90s at the ultraconservative Heritage Foundation. It's a total giveaway to the health insurance industry while completely shafting the American people.

3. You don't know much about Jim or you'd know he was pretty fond of the nose candy himself. He'd despise Obama for his hypocrisy, for being a right wing corporatist/Wall Street sellout masquerading as a left wing populist, not because he used to toot a little.

As for Larry Sinclair--Obama's a homophobe. Just like you are.
Posted by janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  05:20 PM
Here's the link to Bruce Dixon's post entitled "Fake Fight Over Fake Reform:"

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-democrats-vs-tea-party-republicans-fake-fight-over-fake-reform
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  05:33 PM
Oh, and JLizard--about that Crist ad in the upper right corner?

It's a Google ad, which means the Crist campaign pays Google and in return their ad appears on all websites that subscribe to Google advertising, for which the websites make a little $$ in return.

It's got nothing whatsoever to do with your call to Gov. Crist's office on Friday.

So sorry.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  06:14 PM
Janet,
Your bitterness is making you frazzled. Who cares if Jim did coke 40 years ago. It doesn't mean he still does it today. Also, pigeon holing our great president as Black when his mother was in fact white, he's an American Noble Prize winner and distinguished Harvard Law School alumni again reduces you to a negrophobe which is even lower than the "boob" image I had of you before.
Posted by JLizard  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  07:33 PM
JLizard, I admit I've been a bit hard on you. I don't think you're a bad man, I just think you're terminally gullible, and this last post of yours proves it.

Poor baby, you've fallen hook, line and sinker for yet another con artist.

As for me being a "negrophobe," I guess that would make Bruce Dixon a "negrophobe" too? That's pretty funny, but I think I'll leave it to you to figure out why.

Hint: check the name of the blog Dixon writes for. Better yet, read some of the posts on that blog.

Then get back to us, okay? :coolhmm:
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  08:55 PM
Submit word. Spirit. How appropos. Salli, Jim, Chuck (charlie)... everyone else. Hellow.

Here's the truth, ppl. Jim Morrison is alive. His dad and he are spies. Duh. Chuck, Chris Bangs, whatever is his oldest son. I am a younger son. From watching Cliff "Morrison", I believe he is another one of us half-brother bastards. Great.

We are spies.

So... you ppl think you can outthink morrison spies? These guys, give me a break, are spies and so much more.


Wake up ppl. The world is changing.

Spy, spy, spy.

Nothing...


Hrrrrm.... hrrrrrrmmm....


😊

Jim is well alive. Brick layer, my ass. Ppl, see spiritual metaphor when you see it. Pls.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA... ohhhhh... ppl are so shallow.


All of you bastard children of morrison. Welcome to the resurrection of the dead. Best darned cover if I have ever, well, thought of it myself.

Shoot. Have some faith.

Jim's way more mellow these days, btw.

Still. I am proud of that piece of work. RO)FL...
Posted by Wm Michael TopOfHill  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  11:28 PM
Mmm. My mom is a tailor. My dad is a gambler. Lived in New Orleans all my life...

Song.

Ppl need to THINK.

...

We spent soooo much time setting this up. And no one asks questions? You rly piss me off.

Sry. You want nail holes or something?


Shoot yr arrows into the sun.


Come on ppl. If you arent attracted to elijah, who are you attracted to?


Jim... jim... jim...


You know who rly is on here messing w ya? My brother, Chuck.

He's a real bastard.


We all played a rl op on you guys. But you can join in to. What else attracts you to this, huh?


Jesus, Jesus, Christ. Save us. Gee whiz.

Wake the fuck up ppl.

I can say that. BELIEVE ME.

ROFL.

Love yah bro. LOL...

ohhhhhh...
Posted by Wm Michael TopOfHill  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  11:32 PM
<<Jan,
You're scratching the surface as to how much Bill loves his children and how much love is in this man's heart.>>

And to reply to so much more...

A. Our dad had a lot of us bastard kids.

Guess what guys? We are smart. No. We are GODS.

Join us.

Okay, I admit it. I am messin w yah.

Jimbo was and is a spy. Really, isn't spy the perfect metaphor. I am soooo disappointed with people.

You think everything is on the books.

He's an actor. Drinking the great disguise. What then is the purpose of this? Ppl never pry, as they should. They accept what is on surface value.

I admit. I am listening to soundgarden.

Nobody can believe the serious stuff. They can't even believe the simple, physical stuff they accept in movies all the time.

They don't want miracles. they want the tangible.

You save them.

Change them.

Butterfly trumpet. Sick of it all.
Posted by Wm Mike TopOfMountain  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  11:43 PM
Sick of it all?

Not half as sick as I am of your loony ramblings, but I see you're in Texas so I guess that explains most of it. 😜 :lol:
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sun May 02, 2010  at  10:15 AM
Chaos,the natural state of affairs.We are thrown into a chaotic world.We make choices to make sense out of this world which we are thrown....tadatadadadum mmmm When we try to control what is out of our control,we become anxious.Stop.The infinite smallest input on one person to another changes the system and also makes it impossible for long term predictions.Perception.Ok so Fear of chaos brings more chaos."Chaos is the law of nature.Order the dream of man". If we can be ok with the moment,we wouldn't need to attempt so much control in the future.Shall we then not Invite information that we have spent a lifetime avoiding because it creates chaos in our system... certainly a compelling challenge.
Posted by horses system  on  Wed May 05, 2010  at  07:24 AM
golden child- the sun; the light giving orb that is the source of energy for our entire world. . "the golden child has gone to bed" by Ziggy Stardust Feb 1, 2004
Posted by horses arms  on  Wed May 05, 2010  at  08:35 AM
Peabody that is great Christ Crossed.

and YO I also have heard Jim is living in South Jersey under another name very close to Philly
Posted by Topper  on  Wed May 05, 2010  at  12:14 PM
Wthell is" Peabody, Crist Crossed"? And that other very weird rant from Texas?Not any one of Jim's I can tell u that.well so I've heard 'He Lives!', in southeast New Jrsey, but not near Philly.
Posted by Dr.  on  Wed May 05, 2010  at  01:55 PM
Topper.and WM.what r u implying?what business do u have to do with anything. what do u say about ur nonsense talk?who is chuck by the way?
Posted by tb  on  Thu May 06, 2010  at  09:28 AM
this thread is as stale as week old bread. Give it up already.

Those that should,dont.
Those that cant,are useless.
Those that pretend, are fooling themselves.
Posted by u wish u knew  on  Thu May 06, 2010  at  08:55 PM
Then why are you here, u wish u knew(that's a good one ).oh I forgot you dictate who writes what and where.No integrity or compassion do you have I see.Just troublesome. and jealous?I take what u wrote somewhat directed towards me as well only because I am here.I am certainly not" useless" ill bet the million that I don't have on that one.And I "shouldn't"? ,why,do you? Hmmm? And "pretend",well thats projection hahah. So you see,At this point this thread isn't about the hoax.Its taken over. BY ME.I'm using it as my personal soapbox.And I don't care if you mind..............let's read..I pickkkk ok the Bible.There IS forgiveness.but God is a jealous god.and He can be an angry god.......Those that are Revilers shall not inherit the kingdom of God. There are many to speak boldly about things that they know little about..... Those that are covetous will not enter the kingdom of God. This has to do with having an uncontrollable desire to possess a certain thing or someones someone. It motivates one into committing sin in order to satisfy greed. Coveting that which belongs to another will keep one from entering heaven....well the list goes on,but I don't want to beat myself up with my own sins lol....And so, do you still say u wish u knew,or is that me.PEACE!!!!!!!
Posted by horses return  on  Fri May 07, 2010  at  08:03 AM
I m re-posting this since David did not respond and Jlizard seemed to try to twist this in his favor. Jlizard almost got a restraining order against his ass for being a creep to a certain person(not me) and he knows what I m talking about. This guy has some serious problems!!!!! Do not get involved with him. Please check this out again and lets see what happens, come on boys fess up or I m going to start dropping some really pertinent info about the 2 of you. Admit that your sources do not exist!!!! You ve been lieing all these years.
OK so here's the deal....David and JLizard, you have been trying to break this story for so long that you've become irrelevant.
The truth is that Bill Loyer is a real person, is he Jim Morrison, I still cant honestly say. I ve talked to so many people on the subject, even people who new Bill back in the 80's.
It's super easy to find real info on Bill, just use your brains and a few $$$$. If you actually want to find the truth do a little work. I ve talked to a few of the so called Pro's on this forum, I can honestly say that I have caught them in lies, I purposely set a fake trap and they fell for it hook line and sinker, which proves that they have absolutely no ties with Bill. These guys are like Bill Loyer groupies at best. They have no secret connection at all.
I hope that you people would also have the decency to leave Chris and his wife out of this. Could you imagine what it would be like to be in their position. I have provided them with most of my info in the past and they are great people, leave them alone. I just read some past posts and it looks like they were offended...I feel bad for them.
I talked with a reporter who met Bill back in the 80's when he was living in a hotel with his kids, and was working as a brick layer. As far as she was concerned she didn't believe Bill was Jim Morrison.
If it is Jim, maybe we should just leave him alone, this BS that Jlizard and David keep making is nothing more than invasion of Bills privacy. Bill has nothing to do with these 2 guys. In the past David met Bill, but I ve met alot of famous people too, but it doesnt mean I have a direct line to them. It's like me saying "Hey I met Mick Jagger" and just because I met him once doesnt mean I know everything about him and that we are best buds, thats called being delusional.
So after all that maybe we should conclude that Bill or Jim has simply had his privacy invaded and perhaps he never intended to have any of this at all. I believe that most of what Jlizard and David say is pretty much 100% derivative of their own thoughts and has absolutely nothing to do with Bill.
Posted by respect  on  Fri May 07, 2010  at  03:09 PM
Personally if I was Bill/Jim I would be laughing my ass off at these 2 grown men who have spent years regurgitating the same nonsense over and over.
My only goal from my investigation last year was to help Chris find the truth, and after I exhausted all my research avenues I moved on. I sent Chris and his wife most of my info and left it at that. It really is no one else's business.
Posted by respect  on  Fri May 07, 2010  at  03:10 PM
Respect,
You're posting is comedy at this site's finest. No one has mentioned Chris in a long time and then you come in here and tell everyone not to mention them. I know Chris and his wife and that is funny. Although I don't think they'll think so.
Oh yes, then Jlizard ALMOST got a restraining order. I almost won the lottery, asked Jan Erwin out on a date and got my nipple pierced. Seriously, I have never come close to getting a restraining order and my squeaky clean reputation is highly sought after by companies and the gov't for whom I now work.
"Jlizard and David say is pretty much 100% derivative of their own thoughts and has absolutely nothing to do with Bill." Umm, yes, most of what one says is based on their own thoughts but if one mentions Bill, it has to do with Bill.
Posted by JLizard  on  Fri May 07, 2010  at  03:43 PM
So, Respect, does this mean you know the truth about Chris? How are you friends? Or are you just like the other people on here saying they know everybody else.
Posted by curious bystander  on  Fri May 07, 2010  at  05:18 PM
It really is no one else's business. Posted by respect
Posted by horses ties  on  Fri May 07, 2010  at  05:21 PM
Hi

Curious, No Chris and I are not friends I simply provided info to him. Info on Bill, David and Jliz, and they also gave me some interesting info on Jliz in return.

Jliz I think the only comedy here is your delusional disorder. I'll quote Jliz in his delusion, "my squeaky clean reputation is highly sought after by companies and the gov't for whom I now work." Jliz works in a water treatment plant guys, good janitors are also highly sought after, if you know one let me know 😉 Also he says "I know Chris and his wife" he is telling the truth here he does, they talked on the phone and they want nothing to do with him because he is creepy and insane!!!!

It's not my business I was researching it before but realized that it wasnt my business, it is his childrens right, but not mine.

It just annoys me how David and Jliz can continue to act like they have this connection after they fell right into my trap and I caught them lieing red handed and proved that they have no connection to Bill at all.

Most of their stories come straight from Gerald and the boards. Lets see how Jliz tries to glorify and twist this post, he is certainly a creative guy.
Posted by respect  on  Sat May 08, 2010  at  09:23 AM
Wo.That was harsh.wo.It seems like everyone talks for Bill.If that's not the pot calling the kettle black.Does Loyer even exist because from what I've read he's the only one not talking here or anywhere.p.s. The only time Chris or his wife get metioned is when( respect)( who deserves none only because he has shown none)(along with a lot of people here)brings them up.No one really cares to talk about them but you respect!I wonder if Chris realizes that! Also no one seems to be friends with JLizard anyway.From what Ihave read everyone fights him here.David Logan is just on the fence too.But respect comes in saying don't mention this one n that one and no one is!!! It doesn't take a genius to see respect is opening the safe to let someone steal the porno so to say.
Posted by Dr.  on  Sun May 09, 2010  at  09:05 AM
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