Is Jim Morrison Alive?

image Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.

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I'm goin to dinner with the horse ,im goin to morrison land..hahahah
Posted by know it all  on  Sun Feb 21, 2010  at  06:23 AM
Logan,wanna go with me to visit the horse?liz isnt invited.
Posted by know it all  on  Sun Feb 21, 2010  at  06:26 AM
Know it all, keep me out of your bickering with Jlizard. Nobody is invited to 'morrison land',so please refrain from using what is mine.
Posted by horses temper  on  Sun Feb 21, 2010  at  06:49 AM
The indianans were stickin together, and I needed someone to relate to .I apologize.I thought it was funny.gee...sorry.
Posted by know it all  on  Sun Feb 21, 2010  at  06:59 AM
My guess is the horse dislikes me now as much as liz.Were or what is morrison land anyway?a whatever.I just want to know were bill is.liz? what does bill have to say lately?
Posted by know it all  on  Sun Feb 21, 2010  at  04:32 PM
I don't dislike you know it all.I don't want to be involved in your thing with Jlizard is all.AND it is confusing enough as it as with people using other peoples names here.Morrison land has special meaning to me,and using it as a joke is an insult to me.
Posted by horses name  on  Sun Feb 21, 2010  at  07:08 PM
Hello,



Jim doesn't need pardoned. Except within 7 yrs.
Posted by David Logan  on  Mon Feb 22, 2010  at  12:33 AM
He never did anything. Besides get loose. 500 photographs showed nothing. A shirt tail. So maybe he should be pardoned to take a look at now a days. And a I'mm sorry....It was quite an uproar.
Posted by David Logan  on  Mon Feb 22, 2010  at  12:46 AM
He was living then. Probably sick to his stomach.
My sister just lost her big ol Horse. 25 yr. old. She's met Bill. So has my Mom. She said he has a nice voice. No one sounds like him.
Posted by David Logan  on  Mon Feb 22, 2010  at  12:58 AM
OK so here's the deal....David and JLizard, you have been trying to break this story for so long that you've become irrelevant.

The truth is that Bill Loyer is a real person, is he Jim Morrison, I still cant honestly say. I ve talked to so many people on the subject, even people who new Bill back in the 80's.

It's super easy to find real info on Bill, just use your brains and a few $$$$. If you actually want to find the truth do a little work. I ve talked to a few of the so called Pro's on this forum, I can honestly say that I have caught them in lies, I purposely set a fake trap and they fell for it hook line and sinker, which proves that they have absolutely no ties with Bill. These guys are like Bill Loyer groupies at best. They have no secret connection at all.

I hope that you people would also have the decency to leave Chris and his wife out of this. Could you imagine what it would be like to be in their position. I have provided them with most of my info in the past and they are great people, leave them alone. I just read some past posts and it looks like they were offended...I feel bad for them.

I talked with a reporter who met Bill back in the 80's when he was living in a hotel with his kids, and was working as a brick layer. As far as she was concerned she didn't believe Bill was Jim Morrison.

If it is Jim, maybe we should just leave him alone, this BS that Jlizard and David keep making is nothing more than invasion of Bills privacy. Bill has nothing to do with these 2 guys. In the past David met Bill, but I ve met alot of famous people too, but it doesnt mean I have a direct line to them. It's like me saying "Hey I met Mick Jagger" and just because I met him once doesnt mean I know everything about him and that we are best buds, thats called being delusional.

So after all that maybe we should conclude that Bill or Jim has simply had his privacy invaded and perhaps he never intended to have any of this at all. I believe that most of what Jlizard and David say is pretty much 100% derivative of their own thoughts and has absolutely nothing to do with Bill.

Personally if I was Bill/Jim I would be laughing my ass off at these 2 grown men who have spent years regurgitating the same nonsense over and over.

My only goal from my investigation last year was to help Chris find the truth, and after I exhausted all my research avenues I moved on. I sent Chris and his wife most of my info and left it at that. It really is no one else's business.

If you have more questions feel free to ask.
Posted by Respect  on  Mon Feb 22, 2010  at  03:15 PM
Respect,
If I didn't know and like the Bang's family I would think it's funny that you ask that we respect their privacy when you're the only one mentioning them. Ok, I still laughed!
Posted by Jlizard  on  Mon Feb 22, 2010  at  03:51 PM
"It really is no one else's business?" What are you implying,that it is only Chris Bangs' business?
Posted by tb  on  Tue Feb 23, 2010  at  07:25 AM
Respect,

What do you know? Email .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).
Posted by ......  on  Fri Feb 26, 2010  at  11:52 PM
THIS BOAT IS SINKING...

I recently got this email from a CLIFF MORRISON myspace friend. I called and spoke with one of his friends there- things do not look good for Cliff!


To all the true fans and friends of Cliff Morrison & Lizard Sun, and the Doors:
Cliff is in serious trouble right now and needs your help!
Earlier this year he was thrown in jail after being beaten and tasered nearly to death by police.
Now
they are attempting to frame him for over a dozen robberies - which HE
DID NOT COMMIT. It just goes to show that those cops are no-good,
rotten, dirty scoundrels with no true desire to serve or protect a
soul. They lied to witnesses of the beating. They lied to Cliff's
friends and family and loved ones. Cliff Morrison is a protester, just like his father Jim Morrison was.
You
may remember back when Jim was facing charges of exposing himself
onstage in Dade County, Florida? He was charged and facing prison time
and hard labor for something he did not do...exposing himself? It
didn't happen.
Cliff is going through the same thing right now
as his father did, years ago. He's been falsely charged and now is
falsely imprisoned. And he needs to make bail ASAP. Not only to fight
this perversion of justice from the outside, but also to begin
recording, and playing massive shows
again, like he never has before.
So if you want to help Cliff out with bail and you're serious about it - if you're willing and able to
step up and make a difference for him - PLEASE reply, call, or text us RIGHT NOW.
Every call, text and email response to this message WILL be personally replied to as quickly as possible.
909.268.7654 (call or text)
909.268.7690 (call or text)
951.681.9397 (land line, calls only)
email:
.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Important - ALL OF YOU THAT HELP WILL BECOME LIFETIME MEMBERS OF THE
MORRISON/LIZARD SUN FAMILY meaning FREE admission TO ALL FUTURE SHOWS,
BACKSTAGE all access passes, FREE CDS, DVDS, SHIRTS, MERCH, etc. as
well as getting to know Cliff and the band. He will definitely be in
contact with anyone and everyone who helps out with this, and Cliff is also going to personally
and publicly thank each and every person or organization who steps up for him.
Posted by JLizard  on  Sun Feb 28, 2010  at  07:50 AM
how about this , lets just let him be wether he is alive or not ! he made great music and was a hottie so let that be that if he is alive he obviously dosnt want to be bothered and if he is not then let him be the legand he is . lets remember him for all his wonderful work. just sit back turn up riders on the storm and chill the *$@# out wich is what he would have wanted anyway right ! Rest in peace jim where ever you are !
Posted by pam  on  Thu Mar 11, 2010  at  09:32 PM
So have you heard that Cliff Morrison is in trouble again for robbery? Now he is asking his groupies for money for his defense. The cash in prince can't seem to keep it together long enough to actually live a decent life. At least the other one didn't change his name to Morrison with out permission and try to cash it in.

I think that there is a much better chance that Chris Bangs, who didn't change his name to Morrison like Cliff did or try to release a bunch of Jim immitation lame music is Jim's son.

Cliff has become a real joke in the public eye. Or at least in the eyes of the people who could care less.

Also why doesn't Chris come on here and set it all right?
Posted by Larry Manheim  on  Sat Mar 20, 2010  at  08:42 PM
Truth or consequences? What an interesting site.
Posted by David Logan  on  Sun Mar 21, 2010  at  01:13 AM
Hey Larry,
Why Chris, why not the Honorable Governor Crist?
Posted by JLizard  on  Sun Mar 21, 2010  at  05:58 PM
JLizard, what the heck is wrong with you. Half the crap you say is so phking stupid, I just have to shake my head. Seriously man.
Posted by JLizard's Anus  on  Sun Mar 21, 2010  at  08:49 PM
It wasn't about "permission". Jim Morrison's previous attorney was involved and so was the Morrison family.You and the "public eye" just were not there and you have not seen the paperwork.regardless of what trouble he is in and regardless of bad decision making,doesn't take away from who his father is.
Posted by defense  on  Mon Mar 22, 2010  at  07:08 AM
The word 'friend' has so many different meanings,doesn't it.....well,I AM THE FIRE.
Posted by horses face  on  Fri Mar 26, 2010  at  07:21 PM
i as well believe chris bangs to be more plausible to be jim's son.
Posted by the goods  on  Sun Mar 28, 2010  at  11:08 PM
Goods, why because he's cuter? Check this out and then decide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Trp3IsxJQ&feature=PlayList&p=ECA8708DE6564EB5&index=0&playnext=1
Posted by JLizard  on  Mon Mar 29, 2010  at  04:09 AM
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Posted by starla west  on  Mon Mar 29, 2010  at  09:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEXRalUQq04
Posted by starla west  on  Mon Mar 29, 2010  at  09:25 PM
Cliff Morrison & Lizard Sun - When The Music's Over (1994)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEXRalUQq04




Welcome To The Show (1994)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIhofx6Mc_0




With Waylon Krieger (1996) - Riders On The Storm



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XLhvYKWmac
Posted by ANGELICA  on  Mon Mar 29, 2010  at  09:30 PM
My forensic mind suggests that Cliff Morrison is probably not a fake. I have shown the forgoing youtube vids to a Scotland Yard scientist who has digitally restructured Jim vs Cliff skull and found that that they are almost idendical.

The skull type forms a type two Caucus which can be found in many Celtic, Iberian progeny; the so called clans..especially the Irish are meaningless. I have researched this extensively , hence my silence recently;and believe that the Morrison Clan has its origins in Spain! the border between France and Spain, which would make Jim a Basque.

One of the large family names within San Sebastion is Morrithon. Students in European culture will readily recognise the quixotic nature of names. I suspect that Cliff shares this Celtic root, but would never know it..I can see it being a fellow Celt...The residents of Mallorca share the same look.

To conclude, I think that Cliff Morrison is most probably Jims Son..I also think that Jim Morrison is dead (I haven't read recent posts)

Love to all

Andrew.
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Thu Apr 01, 2010  at  07:51 PM
Thank you Andrew,thank you so very much 😊
Posted by horses roots  on  Fri Apr 02, 2010  at  08:46 AM
Jesse James' Discovery Channel website states that his great-great-grandfather was the famous outlaw's cousin.[11] However, Eric James, president of the James Preservation Trust, which tracks claims of being a relative of the outlaw, says it can not find a record of him in the family tree, and has asked him to provide a family genealogy and DNA sampling for the Trust to review; he has not accepted the offer. Wikipedia. ******Hmmmm? We don't see the public questioning his dna.******
Posted by interesting  on  Fri Apr 02, 2010  at  10:19 AM
Dear Horses Roots,

No problem my friend..no thanks required at all. My friend JLizzard will tell you that my views are uncompramising and I generally only make a comment when sure evidence is placed before me.

With regards to Cliff..we did over one thousand scans not just of his face as shown on various YouTube sites but other media as well. We did similar scans of Jim Morrisons physog from any media source that we could find.

Our results are not conclusive of course; however , the hardware that we used was pretty much State of the Art.

Short of a conclusive DNA profile on Cliff..and I don't know why one hasn't been done already..our conclusion is that Cliff Morrison has an 87% chance of being Jim Morrisons son..which is a pretty high threshhold based on bone structure alone.

Think of this..Oscar Wildes Greatgrandson now works for the BBC and his son looks just like Oscar (God help him!")..I sound like my Dad and so on..I can't see why anyone would be surprised that Cliff was not Jim Morrisons son with the foregoing comments in mind.

Cheers all,
Andrew.
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Sat Apr 10, 2010  at  04:56 PM
Dna is not learned.In a movement,in a look,in a sound,even in the slightest, you can see.I have seen
Posted by horses eyes  on  Sat Apr 10, 2010  at  10:54 PM
Dear Horses Eyes,

I share your view...there have been some very compelling videos of Cliff which seem to concur with what you infer by your last comment.

Of course these things can be faked..but I doubt it here...The case seems real enough to me; but I wonder (and I ask because I don't know)..Is Cliff interested in the DNA aspect? or have we moved beyond that? I don't have much time to read this site these days..so if anyone can give me a breakdown of what has happened here recently, I'd appreciate it.
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Sun Apr 11, 2010  at  05:50 PM
I have a good friend who is in the biz and has told me that Jim lives in South Jersey outside of Philly. He has met him and only will tell me the general area
Posted by I know  on  Mon Apr 12, 2010  at  11:50 AM
I live outside Philly. Tell me and I can check it out. What area of Jersey?
Posted by Dr. M  on  Mon Apr 12, 2010  at  05:11 PM
For most and foremost,the DNA sits on the lap of the gods.
Posted by horses providence  on  Mon Apr 12, 2010  at  08:54 PM
Dr. M if you read my post my friend will not tell me the exact town (big secret lol) . But I believe Jim is in Burlington County. I hear he lives there only part of the year.
Posted by I know  on  Tue Apr 13, 2010  at  08:55 AM
The roots of the name Morrison come from the Viking settlers of ancient Scotland. The name was derived from the name Maurice. This comes from the Latin personal name Mauritius, which means dark. Numerous legends exist for the Origins of this great Scottish clan. One old tale holds that the Clan's Norse forbears were shipwrecked off the Isle of Lewis, and saved themselves by clinging to driftwood; hence the Clan Plant badge is driftwood. Another branch claims descent from the O'Muircheasain bards of the outer Hebrides. This latter legend is not inconsistent with a possible shipwreck of the Norsemen, as many of the bardic missionaries from Ireland were of Norse descent. Others claim the Clan is descended from King Somerled, King of the Isles, who died in 1164. Again, this is compatible with history, as Somerled was descended from the Norse Kings of Ireland and gave origin to many of the more notable Scottish Clans.Medieval scribes most often spelled names by the way they sounded. spelling variations, are thus, very common in records dating from that time. Over the years, Morrison has been spelled Morrison, Morison, Morieson and many more.
Posted by horses two crest  on  Tue Apr 13, 2010  at  10:25 AM
The real Jim Morrison didn't have eyebrows. This insane fake does.
Posted by Py  on  Wed Apr 14, 2010  at  03:57 PM
The morning wind began to moan, But still the night went on: Through its giant loom the web of gloom. Crept till each thread was spun: And,as we prayed,we grew afraid Of the Justice of the Sun. Oscar Wilde
Posted by horses books  on  Wed Apr 14, 2010  at  08:58 PM
Whoops!..time to butt out for another few months..cheers all!
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Fri Apr 16, 2010  at  05:36 PM
Bye Andrew,
Hope you have fun back in England. I'm glad you're convinced Cliff is Jim's son. You deserve a break now.
Posted by JLizard  on  Sat Apr 17, 2010  at  06:12 AM
I am Lorraine Widen, CEO and 1/3 owner of Lizard Sun Entertainment. Cliff Morrison is 1/3 owner of Lizard Sun Entertainment.

Floyd Bocox has stated he is the sole owner of LSE as well as well as the president - WHICH IS NOT TRUE. Floyd resigned his position on December 17th, 2008. His resignation was given because of several acts done by him to sabotage the corporation.

Floyd Bocox has stated that Al Bowman and Susanna Griffie have acted in a non professional manner which is also NOT TRUE - LA Music Awards was under contract and they fulfilled the contract in a completely professional manner.

The fact is LA Music Awards and the LA Fame Awards are part of the history of Los Angeles. And the LA Music Awards represent the heartbeat and soul of LA. The industry looks to the Awards as a legitimate source of superior talent - and for the artists, the way to display this talent.

The claims made by Floyd Bocox have no merit.

Floyd Bocox has posted harmful and untrue statements on many sites about both the LA Music Awards and Cliff Morrison. Floyd was totally aware of the fact that in 1992 blood was drawn and the DNA was done. Floyd also knew that this was a private matter between Cliff Morrison and the family. But for Floyd Bocox, that wasn
Posted by lizardsunmusic  on  Tue Apr 20, 2010  at  12:02 PM
And This is relevant because ?????
Posted by Santuary  on  Tue Apr 20, 2010  at  08:30 PM
Google is your friend, "Santuary."

Psst--it's actually spelled "Sanctuary."
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  05:31 AM
Thanks so much for clarifying this Lorraine. I became convinced a long time ago that if the truth were to be made public about Bill Loyer being Jim Morrison, Cliff and Lizard Sun Music would be in the best position to make it happen. Until it does, an ominous shadow looms over the sanctity of this art we call American Rock and Roll. I have heard first hand that Bill Loyer has the utmost respect for Cliff as his legacy.
Posted by JLizard  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  03:54 PM
Every chance you get jlizard you try to link Bill Loyer and Cliff Morrison together. I thinks its pretty tacky.With all the hype and all the obstacles Cliff is having right now, its not cool to link him constantly to Loyer.Because, until Loyer proves himself the right way,it just makes people say, this word I hate-"scam"- louder if you know what I mean.I have readthat mostly everyone, with the exception of you and mr.logan,disslike,hate and do NOT believe Bill Loyer.So how is this respecting and helping cliff? I have specifically read how people are now linking the two together with- the word I hate. Loyer doesn't need Cliff Morrison to make himself known.The gloom the shadow has nothing to do with nothing.Bill Loyer could come out on you tube or whatever.HIMSELF.He has such high respect for his legacy,that's awesome,why are we not hearing it from him,and always secondhand? This mystique, mystery,hiding thing is getting real boring,old,played out.its time for truth.stop messing with us... please.There are a lot of people hurt at this point.and I frankly can't take much more.Loyer stand up.
Posted by me  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  04:58 PM
" I have heard first hand that Bill Loyer has the utmost respect for Cliff as his legacy. Posted by JLizard
Posted by me  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  05:08 PM
The real Jim Morrison would have acknowledged Cliff as his son years ago, if he'd lived. I'm afraid the jig is up for Mr. Loyer, although since he's a devout Christian I suspect Cliff won't be nearly as rough with that fraud as I would be were I in his shoes--assuming of course that Cliff acknowledges Loyer's existence at all.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  07:34 PM
Oh Janet, don't be afraid that the jig is up for Bill Loyer... be afraid that you are too much of a coward to DEMAND the DOORS tell us who Bill Loyer is after 10 years of asking! And please take RIGHT HERE WAITING with you as they too are afraid the jig is up instead of demanding explanation.
Posted by Jlizard  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  08:07 PM
Tu estas muy loco, senor JLiz.

The Doors don't give a damn who Bill Loyers is. They know who he's NOT, and that's all that matters.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  08:55 PM
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