Is Jim Morrison Alive?

image Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.

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Ha.That's strange you should mention that, about assuming.I am in the middle of reading The Third Agreement in A Toltec Wisdom Book.It's.. Don't Make Assumptions 😊
Posted by horses coincidence  on  Wed Jan 20, 2010  at  08:31 PM
To clarify."Listen to The Prophecy.Watch it unfold and come to pass."(Doesn't mean the movie).The prophet Morrison,and of Morrison and with Morrison.Listen to what was prophecied then, and now. With us,the spirit,soul....... divine.
Posted by horses visions  on  Wed Jan 20, 2010  at  09:41 PM
1.) "See this is hard. What about the guy who has come out lately who was there, the owner of the nightclub who said the thugs took his body back. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"

ANSWER: The Count and three other people took JDM out of the nightclub to the apartment.

2.) "one of Pamela's accounts was that she was with him, he had a headache and went to bathe. Also the written account where she kept him in the bath for over 3 days. Everybody knows that one. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"

ANSWER: Pamela wasn't there when JDM died. Three days in a bath? I'd like the source for your quote. JDM was not in any bath for three days solid at any time in his life...or death.

3.) "Did they embalm him on Monday also? Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"

ANSWER: I don't recall ever hearing about any embalming.

4.) "Records for Bill Loyer go back only to 1970. I understand the age confusion. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"

ANSWER: That means you haven't researched Loyer's records properly or thoroughly. Did he come over the border illegally? Maybe ICE should check him out. It shouldn't be hard, since you say Loyer spent time in jail starting at age 19-20 for robbery. His booking photos are on file, so are his fingerprints.😊

Btw, JDM would never do anything to get himself put into prison; not after the Miami incident and trial.

5.) "You're just P.O.d because we wouln't talk to you. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"

ANSWER: P.O.d? Far from it. LOYER'S MAKING A CLAIM HE KNOWS HE CAN'T PROVE. Loyer's afraid to talk to anybodywho knew JDM well. Loyer knows he's fighting a losing battle, because he isn't JDM. All it shows me is that Loyer continues to do anything to avoid dealing with those of us who can prove he's a fake.

6.) "I can see you read that right out of the same book I read. Or did you write one. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"

ANSWER: What I know about JDM and his death is through sources I trust; not books.

7.) "We'll all go home now.
Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"

ANSWER: Your choice. If Loyer weren't a fraud, he'd stop acting like one. When it comes to an actual showdown Loyer always disappears, instead of facing those of us who knew JDM.
Posted by Salli Stevenson  on  Wed Jan 20, 2010  at  09:44 PM
"Funny how she didn't mention the bricklayer spends his time writing and painting and is married to a retired medical doctor. Dr. Marsha has been mentioned over a dozen times here and would be quite a credible witness.
Posted by Jlizard in Seymour, IN on Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 03:38 AM"

Loyer's writing and painting prove nothing, since Loyer's not JDM.

Dr. Marsha can't prove anything. She's not qualified to be a witness. She's just gullible.
Posted by Salli Stevenson  on  Wed Jan 20, 2010  at  10:02 PM
"Salli has down a ton of reasoning and research. Salli we were terribly upset with Gerald about that time. Pulling a couple of things behind our back. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 09:59 AM"

No. I didn't have to do a ton of research. My sources were there when JDM died. Reasoning? You don't have to reason when you have the facts.

Gerald is your problem. So is believing Loyer. Loyer's got you conned. He learned to con in prison. I feel sorry for you. You're the perfect sucker. So is Loyer's poor wife.
Posted by Salli Stevenson  on  Wed Jan 20, 2010  at  10:08 PM
Highmountainrogue.com has more pictures.
Posted by David Logan  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  04:31 AM
http://highmountainrogue.com/
Geez it doesn't hurt to look. More pictures every page. Hey if the guy wants to call himself Jim Morrison it's alright by me. To a point.
Nobody is asking for anything.
Posted by David Logan  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  05:27 AM
Hey Salli, aren't you just the little information gatherer. Gee you didn't say anything about Dr. Hales how he didn't have anything to compare to Well like he's probably only been doing it for 40 years. Look at the new photo's and try to see where we're coming from.
Posted by David Logan  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  05:36 AM
I was called to do this. 😉 : )
Posted by David Logan  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  05:40 AM
What we are just talking about has nothing to do with these guys.We are talking about MORRISONS.Just so we are perfectly clear.Always know that Tho clouds and storm, the Sun is still there.Waiting.We wait.The Unknown Soldier.Waiting for The Sun.And there's Many more AND his ....prophetic.
Posted by horses meaning  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  07:34 AM
If you know the true father and the son,than you know what was meant.
Posted by horses spirit  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  07:44 AM
What the!!lmaofffffff.those pics made it worse!!O my!Do you think we r FOOLS! I don't think I will b returning here.well EXcept maybe to hear the people who really know JDM or CM.Sooooooo david logan,jlz,Bill lmaof loyer,goodbye ridiculous ones!!
Posted by mary  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  10:44 AM
We're not laughing. Friends.
Posted by David Logan  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  01:21 PM
Read all you can. This is quite possible.
Posted by David Logan  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  01:25 PM
http://highmountainrogue.com/ to keep this function simple. New big smile at the bottom of Pg.1
Posted by David Logan  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  02:50 PM
"Records for Bill Loyer go back only to 1970. I understand the age confusion. Posted by David Logan in Helena, Mt. on Tue Jan 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM"


What are the records, Dave?
Posted by Salli Stevenson  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  05:02 PM
Yeah Dave inquiring minds want to know.

I would like to know from them though, how do they plan to adjust their lives having learned the Lizard King has returned?

Will it incite some to riot against the DOORS conglamorate (who in the last 2 days sent me two fan emails), will it simply bring peace and closure to their hearts, will it make them thirsty for ever so much more knowledge that only our beloved genious poet can bestow, will it make them want to create more elaborate schemes to again hide the truth, will new festivities and holidays be created, will it make some drape large banners and rent boards on the highways demanding explanation- who will do what. Who's starting to do what? What are you going to do? Now that you know. THE REST OF THE STORY.
Posted by JLizard  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  05:22 PM
Thanks fort he ear views. Big mistake. Aside from everything else that doesn't match Loyer's ears don't match JDM's.LMAO.

Again, the records, Dave?
Posted by Salli Stevenson  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  05:31 PM
The Lizard still walks the Earth. Accept the truth and you will find peace.
Posted by husman  on  Thu Jan 21, 2010  at  08:49 PM
I played with your lies long enough.trying to give you sensible reasoning why your lies couldn't happen.The fact is that you guys really don't know what happened in Paris,and there are those of us who do.. I will not give you any more silly opposites or add to the info so you can contrive more lies to combat the truth. Those of us who know,KNOW.The poor nieve ones who wish to continue to follow loyer,logan'and lizard,should look for the facts themselves,and maybe in only their own conclusion find peace.James Douglas Morrison never woke up in a morgue.Morrison died and was very sick the night he died.Many many people saw him after he was dead.They tried very hard to keep it out of the media immediatly after until he was buried,for obvous reasons.drugs.money.rock star. Scandal.Pam wouldn't even leave his body.His body stayed in the hot flat w her.To protect Jean, and Pam and friends, and like I said, the possibly of neglect,abandonment,and heroin, is why many friends convinced the french,(there was also a language barrier)(and pam wasn't legally married to him) that he died of the heart.Without a claim of murder the french don't do autopsy like in the usa.There were many problems with his health leading up to his death.that is a fact.The Morrison family found out after he was buried through a reporter,then admiral confirmed it w the embassy.They were devastated.The coffin WAS too small, unfortunatly that is what was offered and the coffin was sealed because the body was decaying.It was hot.quite hot in paris.There is quite more intriquet facts and details that I know,but there is the basics.I request that there be no further disrespect of James Douglas Morrison's death, and of Pam's involvement to which these con artists here claim.
Posted by horses voice  on  Fri Jan 22, 2010  at  09:20 AM
Gee.I came back to a mess.I went to the hmr site.Listen,anyone can do the one hip up leg straight,shoulder down Morrison pose.Jim was not that short!in comparison.everypicture is worse than the last.My friend Jim Morrison's eyes were closer together.Stop wit the point eye match sh..t n Jim despised tatoos and needles scared him.Jim had a unique smile,which on pg 1 is nothing like my buddy,that I seen smile a hundred times two prominent front teeth!that guy in the pic looks like he has falsies lol!all straight n s..t.!Jim didn't like to wear as stach.it was either full beard or he shaved it clean.he didn't like the way he looked wit a stash.never.The nose. Is not his arch from forehead to nose. That is a long nose b loyer has!man o man!I read wat was said by his friends,and I vouch for every word.That man is not James D. Morrison.That is not the irish scot that I know!
Posted by a friend  on  Fri Jan 22, 2010  at  12:01 PM
No Deal.
Posted by David Logan  on  Fri Jan 22, 2010  at  01:35 PM
Its not your life when it comes to MORRISONS to descide Deal or No deal. And this isn't a game show.This is the life and death of someone we loved in his life,in his death and eternal.You admited your position only since when???And are using his identity for purposes that you probably thought it would bring popularity,to be main stream,praised,notarized.OR maybe simply just to help your 'friend'.None of us owe you an explanation,we are trying to help you and Stop the mockery!!!! Bill Loyer owes you for your loyalty to him.How's that working for you?You don't give up easily,ill give you that but how could you backtrack now and admit your deception. Yeah.NO DeAl is right.That is fine that we do not have an accord.Because you guys tried and try making a mockery out of James Douglas Morrison and Pamela,and we won't allow it.God rest their souls.Thank God I'm here to help with that.Loyalty.
Posted by horses loyalty  on  Fri Jan 22, 2010  at  02:49 PM
Identity theft is one of the largest and growing crimes with an estimated 10,000,000 victims in 2008.Not a wonder Jim Morrison would be a victim,such an easy target huh?If only Bill Loyer really did even resemble him in the least he could commit his crime until.. lol... "the right people showed up."
Posted by know it all  on  Fri Jan 22, 2010  at  03:18 PM
It is 99.9998 percent that this is a hoax. The .2 percentage points are for the two who believe. That's all it takes is two.
Those pictures don't do Jim Morrison any justice.
Posted by Marty  on  Fri Jan 22, 2010  at  03:48 PM
I just found an early interview with Salli and Janet interviewing their prominant member of the DOORS entourage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP89CMpJcRs
Posted by JLizard  on  Fri Jan 22, 2010  at  05:28 PM
Dave Logan, are you going to post those records of Loyer that you spoke of, or are you too afraid?
Posted by Salli Stevenson  on  Fri Jan 22, 2010  at  11:27 PM
Records? To let me clarify. There are no records before 1970. Not my records.
You see I've always been part of the sway that thought or hoped..That he did by some fluke....
You know how it is out here. So many years went by. Hey you know I did see the funniest Social Security card I've ever seen. Just a bunch of zero's. Hee he.
And don't misquote me.
Posted by David Logan  on  Sat Jan 23, 2010  at  03:14 AM
To horses Morrison. Is it always night? Yea I've read all that. Love you, you say many people saw the body..golly I can't believe I'm gettin drug thru all this as well as you.
Tried and try making a mockery, that's sure not anyones desire. Bill told me the same thing.
Back up? I'm not afraid to back up. No
I would admit decepetion when I was sure. Right now I'm more on the preception side.

With all due respect.
Posted by David Logan  on  Sat Jan 23, 2010  at  03:49 AM
Somebody needs glasse's.
Posted by David Logan  on  Sat Jan 23, 2010  at  03:55 AM
I don't believe I've put my foot in my mouth. Page 49 with the nose indent is the beginning of a strong resemblence. A few of you people won't even admit that.

Boy have you gotten me in trouble now Bill....
J Lezaard
Posted by David Logan  on  Sat Jan 23, 2010  at  04:06 AM
When your life's an open book you are to know that the world surrounds you. They will walk through you, over the top of, stomp on it, tear a few sheaths out. Drop some of the glamour. Live with it. In its greatness of course.

I wonder, if any, how many people died trying to be like him. Give me a flippen break.

Now that is a horse of a different color.
Won't we be glad when were dead and gone.

Respectfully,
Posted by David Logan  on  Sat Jan 23, 2010  at  04:46 AM
My heartfelt appreciation. Horse. Remain strong. Why don't you wash your hands of us before too long? Everybody should read horses voice on the previous page. That's the story. It will save alot of reading.
Nice to know ya Mrs horse.
Posted by David Logan  on  Sat Jan 23, 2010  at  05:03 AM
Are you being sarcastic with me?
Posted by horses understanding  on  Sat Jan 23, 2010  at  10:41 AM
Not at all. I extend my hand.
Posted by David Logan  on  Sat Jan 23, 2010  at  12:03 PM
Dave Logan, you said the first records to appear on Loyer were from 1970. What are they?
Posted by Salli Stevenson  on  Sat Jan 23, 2010  at  06:51 PM
The guy in the pictures must have alot of plastic surgery, or maybe got beat up in prison. Ha a master of disguise.
Posted by The Lizard Queen C  on  Sat Jan 23, 2010  at  10:55 PM
Preceptive, a rule or principle that defines a policy: an instuction.
Perceptive is discernment or judgement. Insight gained from observation. Just thought that was interesting.
Posted by David Logan  on  Sun Jan 24, 2010  at  02:24 AM
I think this fairytale has finally come to an end thanks to Salli, Janet and the Horse of course. The pictures are rorscach at best. Your right about perception David I have showed this website to many Doors fans. Most laugh and ask if Jim had mexican reassignment surgery. So unless you can produce some fingerprints or documents we conclude that Billy boy is a fraud.
Posted by Beelvisbubba  on  Sun Jan 24, 2010  at  11:27 AM
Well at least I like that alot better. Depressing
Posted by David Logan  on  Sun Jan 24, 2010  at  02:50 PM
The Morrison family would like to express our thanks to the fans,friends,and loved ones who support our beloved James Douglas Morrison and Pamela.Thank you for the dedication in honoring our family and also for respecting us here and beyond.We wish Mr.Logan and Jlizard the best and hope they could find peace and closure.And to Mr.loyer,impersonation can be a form of flattery,but we are not flattered.We request that you stop.You have offended people by your actions,more than you even know.That's quite enough.This mockery of us, Morrisons,has gone on for too long.Our family has perservered and the accusations made regarding James D.Morrison's death tried to disprove that fact.You also tried to discredit his reputation, and aura even.Unsuccessfully I might add.We will always be watching and waiting to defend our family and the proud name of Morrison that we hold dear and treasure.Never standing down.Loyalty.
Posted by horses loyalty  on  Sun Jan 24, 2010  at  07:07 PM
yeah i think he is alive because he had no reason of dieing on is death certifacit besides a heart failure and people look older after awhile and also i saw this web site where ray manzarek said he was a cowboy so that might be the truth
Posted by cody shay fenner  on  Sun Jan 24, 2010  at  10:38 PM
Thanks Cody, you're a big help.
Posted by David Logan  on  Mon Jan 25, 2010  at  01:35 AM
I'm sure Cody meant well, but accourding to all those who know/knew Bill Loyer, the fact is that records of Loyer first show up in 1970 when James Douglas Morrison was still very much alive and when all JDM's time could be accounted for.

There was no autopsy and that is why the death certificate said "heart failure," a valid form of death btw.

Ray was joking about the cowboy bit.
Posted by Salli Stevenson  on  Mon Jan 25, 2010  at  08:03 PM
Was he? I thought it was more like gambling at the time. The very best to all.
Posted by David Logan  on  Tue Jan 26, 2010  at  01:26 AM
Salli,
How can the claim that your dead friend is still alive be a joke- to whom in the hell can that seem funny? And if he did single out the cowboy in Oregon whom we know to be Bill Loyer then I ask WHY? Why him? David Logan, Poet Sharon Fuerst, Mike Sabatini and dozens of people from Oregon worked with Bill Loyer and NONE of them ever joked about this being Jim Morrison. Why would Ray?
Jim Morrison brought incredible prosperity to the other DOORS members, most of which was wrought posthumously. Ray, John and Robbie didn't even go to the funeral because they knew he was faking his death as so many times he told them they would. He did fake his death. They didn't care what Jim Morrison was going through because he was rediculously tough to work with and addicted to narcotics. Manzarek, Krieger, Densmore and Stevenson are yuppies who suckle the blood of American veterans and make a lot of money doing it.
Posted by JLIzard  on  Tue Jan 26, 2010  at  07:47 AM
Jim Morrison did not fake his death.Bill Loyer is a con artist.I don't care if he writes 'poetry' or paints or sings on his head backwards,he is not my friend Jim Morrison of The Doors.John aka JLizard,you contradict yourself many times in that last nonsense comment.Are you friends with Ray,Robbie or John? Were you there in France July 1971 when Jim died? It is safe to say your answer is NO!Sabatini and Fuerst should make there own statement here or anywere and that still is unreliable!Ray along with someothers have mocked bill loyer for reasons that are so apparent.John, you are smarter than that!Why do you want to ruin your rep with real people?what do you owe bill?we are starting to worry about youjohn.David might be coming around,but you, are you ok?really.Do you need assistance?Its so comical yet frightening how you come up with your own conclusions and answers to the negative side of his death.Almost as if you were the one hurt or something.wow.You try to convince yourself of why he would fake death,and your conclusions are childish and lucid.Anyone with a brain that knew even a quarter of the story who was against the truth could come up with the same exact conclusions that you have.
Posted by a friend  on  Tue Jan 26, 2010  at  09:12 AM
I like how the names of people are used for proof and in reality they are completely different people with just the same name.Nice trick!
Posted by mike s.  on  Tue Jan 26, 2010  at  10:19 AM
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Posted by mike s.  on  Tue Jan 26, 2010  at  10:21 AM
JLizard said: "Stevenson are yuppies who suckle the blood of American veterans and make a lot of money doing it. Posted by JLIzard in Indiana on Tue Jan 26, 2010 at 06:47 AM"

I was a freelance writer, never had enough money to become a yuppie. Despite that, I manage to give money every year to AMVET, Paralysed Vets, Vietnam Vets, and other Veterans organizations. Can you say the same, JLizard?

"How can the claim that your dead friend is still alive be a joke- to whom in the hell can that seem funny? Posted by JLIzard in Indiana on Tue Jan 26, 2010 at 06:47 AM"

James Douglas Morrison is dead. He has been since July 3, 1971. Anything else you claim is a cruel attempt on your part to buy yourself some fame at the expense of all those people who knew the real lead singer of the Doors, JDM.
Posted by Salli Stevenson  on  Tue Jan 26, 2010  at  04:04 PM
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