Catholic Church as The Matrix

The problem Cranky is, that in the 80's, when this the current Pope, Pope Benedict,came up with this "cover-up" idea he was not a Pope. He was simply another clergyman.Now yes, I have already said that the Catholic Church DID cover-up these sexual abuse cases and I agree with you, and I am Catholic. I have no problem admitting that, as a Catholic, my Church did NOT handle this situation very well at all.And I CAN see what you mean when you said that his actions in the past are leading you to doubt whether or not what he is saying is trustworthy.But I feel I must point out that in the Bible it says that Christ's Church will suffer from human frailities. Thus events do occur where the best option is not always taken and that is unfortunate but inevitable at the same time. The ONLY time the Catholic Church claims to be infallible is when the Pope guided by the Holy Spirit announces a new doctrine. ALL OTHER TIMES when the Pope says things they are not infallible. He simply tries to decide what is the best action to take in a certain scenario, as well as his clergy. I understand it is hard to know in your case, as well as many other peoples cases if Pope Benedict is telling the truth but come on. Give the man a chance, will ya?

KAOS YOU ARE CRAZY.PLEASE LEAVE THIS SITE AND NEVER COME BACK.PLEASE.

Holy Canola Oil, Dude... can I have some of what your'e smoking? Great stamina, persistant fervor, and whole-hearted twistedness... I'm jealous, please share

Oh, and you left the N out of MuNchausen. Sorry, OCD sucks, and I'm obsessed with getting rid of it.

Cranky by chance have you ever googled "cranky media guy?" Do you own a website? Sorry random question. Talk to you soon.

Why do you ask, J.R.?

I saw an internet site entitled "Cranky Media Guy" and I noticed he wrote articles with the same type of writing style, I guess you could say, that I noticed you wrote with. That's all- but is that your site?

FOUND THIS "I've arranged for a guest blogger while Flora and I are gone. It's someone quite familiar to many people here -- none other than Cranky Media Guy (aka Bob Pagani). He has perfect credentials for the position. He's a media hoaxer, radio personality, warden of the Abu Ghraib Fantasy Prison Camp, and winner of the $365M Powerball Lottery. He'll be blogging from up north in Oregon." I'm Italian too Cranky I guess we have one thing in common.My dad was vice-president of Chrysler for 26 years but he didn't make 365 million dollars- he made like somewhere around 60 million dollars total so you have A LOT more money than I do but we're both rich so that's two things in common. We both live up north, that's three.I don't like the radio talk-shows though, and I don't know what the hell an "Abu Ghraib Fantasy Prison Camp" is- doesn't sound to fun though. Sorry I'm bored and didn't know what to talk about. Can't talk to KAOS 'cause she's (yeah KAOS is a girl)INSANE and I don't know what she's even talking about. Just you ,Cranky, you're the only sane person in here, and you're opinionated so now I guess we have 4 things in common. So I think I answered my own question those are about you on the internet. Talk to you soon.

SCRATCH THAT PEOPLE- Mr.Pagani Never won the lottery. WE only have three things in common now...liar.

I've got to tell you Mr. Pagani it's not that hatrd to find out stuff about you. You're all over the internet.You got fired for the "Headless Herald" incident, faked winning the lottery supposedly for publicity reasons, have been in the radio peronality business, are "not intimidated by bullies" and seem to be very confident when it comes to standing up for yourself. Impressive.

I have a stalker! Yay!

In other news:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-flfchurch0427sbapr28,0,2394072.story

(Sorry about the long URL.)

I wouldn't call myself a stalker but I guess that's what a stalker would say...

Oh and I agree with you when you say that for 30 or 40 years there was a cover-up of these sexual abuse cases so no argument from me there- The only thing we have a disagreement on is whether or not all that is changing with our current Pope-P.S.- It is changing.

Found this about you Crank actaully a really good article: http://www.mediaman.com.au/interviews/pagani.html

Yeah, J.R., that's a pretty good interview with me, I think.

Here's a little secret: Greg Tingle, who interviewed me, forgot to put a link to Part Three of the interview on his site. Just change the "2" in the address bar of the second part to a "3" to read it.

I share your hope that the current Pope will be different from his predecessors and make REAL change in the Catholic Church. No child deserves to be sexually abused by an authority figure.

Hey, remember when I said that, to be consistent, the New York diocese shouldn't allow Rudy Giuliani to receive Holy Communion because he has a history of being pro-choice? Remember how someone got mad at me and stomped off?

Check this out:
http://tinyurl.com/5wn947

Thanks for the tip on part three of the interview and in reply to the communion ?scandal?- I feel the best way to sum up how I feel as a Catholic knowing Giuliani recieved communion when he was not supposed to by saying this: God is PISSED OFF. But in the Catholic Church's defense in the article you provided it said that the Catholic Church was , angry, one could say that he did recieve communion "The cardinal said Monday that Giuliani broke that understanding when he received the Eucharist during Pope Benedict XVI's visit earlier this month" and "Egan says he will be seeking a meeting with Giuliani "to insist that he abide by our understanding."" and finally "Egan's criticism of Giuliani, however, is a rare case of a Catholic bishop criticizing a public figure by name. Most bishops who spoke about Communion and the responsibility of Catholic politicians did so in general terms without naming names." So the Catholic Diocese in New York wasn't necessarily being inconsistent as they are PISSED OFF just as much as I am that he recieved the Eucharist and was not supposed to. Whoever stomped off because of this argument you are the stupidest dumb sh*t ever.

P.S.- Did you really have an incident with the FBI and now you can't vote? Did you or am I just an extremely gullible retard?

Yes, I had an "incident" with the FBI but I am legally entitled to vote in all local and national elections. My life is many things, but it isn't dull.

cmg said: "My life is many things,but it isn't dull"... hmmm, I've been ruminating on that life-defining statement, and come up with my own version: I too, have a life that is many things, but IS dull, painfully, uncomfortably, dull. Now, that assessment is based upon one's response to the stimulus of "many things", I would suppose, one's reaction to a life of many things being somewhat different than another's based on their ability to be stimulated by said stimulation. Personally, with all my myriad trials, tribulations and travails, there is only one thing left in life that I find stimulating, to the point of obsessive distraction. Here it is: I love to boogie, I love the nightlife, I'm on the disco prowl. Wake me up before you go-go, I ain't planning on going solo. Gimme that stuff, that sweet funky stuff. Oh, JR, I consulted the Magic 8-ball as to whether or not you indeed are an extremely gullible retard, as you fear you may be. It says: JR is very special, he deserves his own bus. Really, I wouldn't lie.

okay, I wanna clarify my previous post: I did not mean to suggest that J.R. was "an extremely gullible retard" as he said he fears he might be, I just figured if I gave him a test, and he believed that the Magic 8-ball said he was special and deserves his own bus, then he would in theory indeed be gullible. The degree of his gullibilty and extent of his retardedness would be based on other's opinions, who gleaned such from his response, if any, to the Magic 8-ball's contention. My opinion on the subject is irrelevant, and I'm sorry if my post offended any other extremely gullible retards besides J.R.. Glad we got that straight.

oh, and CMG? I didn't mean to suggest that you are easily stimulated and satisfied in any way, once again the degree to which one responds to stimuli being based upon individual perception. I would suggest, however, that you clear up that trouble with the FBI, change your name to Irving, and get a fishing license. Just a thought

I'm sorry, I meant Melvin, not Irving. Brain fart

Yet another pervy (former) priest:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/iteam&id=6131414

Koas you are the most delusional person I have ever come into contact with.
1.Cranky never said he was Catholic,quite the opposite actually.
2.What are you even talking about when you write?
3.If you are going to waste space on this site could you try, just TRY and make a little bit of sense and apply just a LITLE bit of logic when you write?

Oh and Cranky question for you-I think it's safe to say we all know Catholic priests,as well as many other religious leaders in other beliefs systems have had a large "sex abuse"problem.Now that I've shown you those sites and proof that the current Pope is going about to try and stop these sexual abuse dilemmas occuring that make the Catholic Church look REALLY bad to outsiders (non-Catholics)what are you trying to prove with all of these sites you keep giving us here?Thanks-...Bob.By the way your Cranky Media Guy site is pretty damn good,just so you know.

What happened to all of you?Did you all die?What the hell is going on here?!?

I guess it's just been quiet on the "pervy priest" front of late. Did I miss anything?

WTF! Your call me delusional when your the one's that can't work out what 'Nothing is Sine' mean's in Dutch, and think you've gota sin your back-side's off then get some other half brain wearing Mommy's wedding dress, just like in the British M.O.D., to absolve your Schitzo BSE worm infested Senile Demented Nazi's, when all you've got is another bunch of half brain's wearing Police uniform's and fucking about in the Public Record's covering up your shit 24/7, because half brain's can't tollerate the Truth about themselve's with a head full of Screaming Kanker's of Worm's persistenly multyplying every second of your live's!

So how did you lot Wrap your Girdle's Roundabout the Earth and Shake your Kundalini's in the Magnetic Lay Line's to be a bonified member of the Original Order of the Garter of the Lo-re of the Earth that your sinful arse's are living on then! '$', mean's 'Curve', not bend over, Comprendi?

I guess it has been pretty quiet on the "pervy priest front as of late."I guess my summer isn't the only uneventful thing going on...

For atheists: In order for the material universe to

Yes, J.R., that is a question which many people have pondered. There is, however, a similar question which "people of faith" seem to want to avoid: Where did God come from? Saying that God always existed without a beginning isn't really an improvement on the theoretical problems with the Big Bang theory.

Oh my Goshen! Here we go again, more colour blindness! Don't you know what the Magnetic Spectrum is for? or is it that you've burned out your Pitruitry and Pineal gland's with toooooooooo much shagging eachother brainless, because if you havn't got a synaesthesic subconscious memory, then you havn't got a Pedagogue from your Youth, ie; Guide, on a Magnetic Planet! Maybe you should try Spinning like a Suffi on a Lay Line Conjunction and see if you can wring out the bullshit out of yourself!

"Mary Baker Eddy, who discovered the Science of being"

WTF!!! You mean to tell me that before this person discovered the Science of being that you were all none existent to your natural selves and needed some psychotic schitzo to tell you in half brained German term's that you exist! Wow!, that's like saying that you don't exist without science shoving their penis in you somewhere, and Stockholm syndrome isn't consciousness matey!
Try Spinning on a Lay Line Hot Spot and see if you can draw your Slack-Arse out of your underpants, and you might see that your God and Your Devil's got your face on it, not mine, so blame yourself for not having the intelligence to know when you've been here long enough to know!

Hmm, business is picking up:

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0129371520080701?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

Just goes to show the Church is just a front for a peadophile cult, with a Fama Fraturnitais deal with the Freemasons's in the Public Service's system's in every country, that fuck about with their crime record's to cover up their sinful abuse's of children and other crime's, of which not one of you has even made a comment on the Vatcian's under the table deal with a half brained Nazi incest Freemason Organisaion that keep's the Church in profit, and give's no Absolution other than threat's to witnesses against them by the Police themselvre's, and even murder if the Church is at risk of exposure, of which it's over 600 year's too late to cover up anyway, and all you've proven is that the Church is incapable of having the Tollerence to face the Consequencies of their own action's, and havn't gotten the intelligence to know that 'Pedagogue' dosn't mean, Fuck kid's up their rectum's till they scream!
Here, $, a worm wrapped around a Crooked Spinal Rod to dig for a Bean!

From a purely scientific standpoint, it is easy to demonstrate that matter cannot be eternal in nature. The universe is expanding from what appears to be a beginning point in space/time, which appears to be a one time event. Hydrogen is the basic fuel of the cosmos, powering all stars and other energy sources in space. If the fuel of the universe has been used eternally, that fuel will eventually be depleted; but the evidence is that the cosmological gas gauge, while moving toward

If God is a being that is unlimited in time, and if He has access to every piece of time as if it were now, the question of who created God is an invalid question. The problem is like asking a student to draw a four-sided triangle. The terminology is self-contradictory.
When asked

Not all matter and mankind will make that Passover mate, and you've got to be a Hell of a lot more Consciousness with Time itself before you'll ever work that one out, and isn't every man's Conscience the worst Terror to face, and when was the last time you came Face to Face with your Pride wearing Your face then? Gen 32; "And Jacob (Hell Catcher/Shadow of Degree's), called the name of the place Piniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved", a,e,i,o,u, Piniel/Pineal, is a game of word's, and Thomas is a Curse to you!

J.R. said:

"If God is a being that is unlimited in time, and if He has access to every piece of time as if it were now, the question of who created God is an invalid question."

OK, back up a bit. First, you're starting with the assumption that there IS a God. Then, you're making other assumptions on top of that.

You rejected the notion that matter can spontaneously come into being when you talked about the Big Bang but you accept the concept of an infinite being who has no origin. Isn't that every bit as absurd, if not more so, than the concept of a self-creating deity?

I won't lie to you Cranky Media Guy I've been an atheist before and I know exactly where you are coming from.there are only two possible explanations as to how our existence came to be. we had a beginning or we did not have a beginning. The Bible says,we had a beginning brought about by God. Most atheists say that there was no beginning. The idea is that matter has always existed and all that has happened is that matter has been changed from form to form, but it has always been.The way we decide whether the atheist is correct or not is to see what science has discovered about this question.We live in an expanding universe that gets bigger and bigger and bigger with every passing day.
Now let us suppose that we made time run backwards! If we are located at a certain distance today, then yesterday we were closer together. The day before that, we were still closer. Ultimately, where must all the galaxies have been? At a point!At the beginning!Another proof is seen in the second law of thermodynamics. In any closed system,things tend to become disordered. If an automobile is driven for years and years without repair, it will become so disordered that it would not run any more. Getting old is simple conformity to the second law of thermodynamics. In space, things also get old. Astronomers refer to the aging process as heat death. If the cosmos is eternal nothing could be added to it to improve its order or repair it. Even a universe that expands and collapses and expands again forever would die because it would lose light and heat each time it expanded and rebounded.
the atheist's assertion that matter/energy is eternal is scientifically wrong. The biblical assertion that there was a beginning is scientifically correct.

If we know the creation has a beginning, we are faced with another logical question--was the creation caused or was it not caused?The atheist tells us that "matter is self-existing and not created." If matter had a beginning and yet was uncaused, one must logically maintain that something would have had to come into existence out of nothing. From empty space with no force, no matter, no energy, and no intelligence, matter would have to become existent. Even if this could happen by some strange new process unknown to science today, there is a logical problem.
In order for matter to come out of nothing, all of our scientific laws dealing with the conservation of matter/energy would have to be wrong, invalidating all of chemistry. All of our laws of conservation of angular momentum would have to be wrong, invalidating all of physics. All of our laws of conservation of electric charge would have to be wrong, invalidating all of electronics and demanding that your TV set not work! Your television set may not work, but that is not the reason! In order to believe matter is uncaused, one has to discard known laws and principles of science. No reasonable person is going to do this simply to maintain a personal atheistic position.The atheist's assertion that matter is eternal is wrong. The atheist's assertion that the universe is uncaused and selfexisting is also incorrect. The Bible's assertion that there was a beginning which was caused is supported strongly by the available scientific evidence.we are the product of an intelligent God.Talk to you soon Cranky Media Guy.

This is my final comment for today:You said "You rejected the notion that matter can spontaneously come into being when you talked about the Big Bang but you accept the concept of an infinite being who has no origin. Isn't that every bit as absurd, if not more so, than the concept of a self-creating deity?" The problem with that statement of yours is that you are assuming EVERYTHING HAS A BEGINNING.While humans,space,planets, animals etc...all have beginnings God is not self-creating nor is he created at all.God has always been.Matter was created at some point even an atheist and Christians can agree matter was created at some point.Thus if matter was created at some point yet matter doesn't have the power to create itself and it can't evolve and God has and will always be God is the only logical conclusion to how our existence came to be.

Well, despite all your verbosity, basically it comes down to exactly what I said. You say, logicaly, that matter can't come from nothing. Then you say that God came from nothing.

You believe in God not because it makes sense, but because you WANT to believe.

"This is my final comment for today:You said "You rejected the notion that matter can spontaneously come into being when you talked about the Big Bang but you accept the concept of an infinite being who has no origin."

Here we go again, another Gun Powder Plot and a Scapegoat! Very Old Gaelich Welch Story about a Worm on a Wood, ie; $, or, the Roslynn Princes Winding Apprentice Pillar in German English, and for your Spineless Backside's and a "Get behind me Satan" for GMT in opposition to 25th March, ie; the other side of your brain you let get BSE, because half brain's cannot Tollerate the Truth about themselve's is the Simple Truth, and that a Simpleton's De Medici Psyche Medical Enigma on why men dribble like Pavlov's, lol!

This could be a mistake. After all, it involves a priest molesting a GIRL:

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-13/1215837340188710.xml&coll=1

Reincarnation from nothing does not involve a Priest sexually assulting any girl, you got your Bow in the wrong gender for a Tomboy/Heshe, and havn't any concept of Metempsychosis, and you certainly havn't got a clue about a Great British Hydra called Azzah in Oliver Cromwell's Parliamentry Letter's, because your too pig shit deliberately ignorent to want to know the how to use your Princes Apprentice Pillar to meet your Pope face to face!

Yeah, you whiny victims of sex abuse by Catholic priests, just suck it up and get over it:

http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles/2008/07/16/Stop_dwelling_on_the_old_wounds_Bishop_Fisher_tells_sex_abuse_victims

Get over it! That's a classic Munchausen Schitzophrenic's answer to his guilt for not having the adult restraint to keep their penis's our of the rectum of a kid, because your sooooo full the of envy/Canker of a Worm of their innocent youth when you havn't got any yourself! Pedagogu mean's duel neural Synaesthesis subconscious memory, which is the code's to the magnetic spectrum of this planet your living on, and a Peadophile is spelt without the 'a' in America to make it sound the same as Pedagogue, and that's the result of Nazist half brained Pavlovism, the conditioning of D.A.D's cock up your arses, because litterally, your Church and State Screwed itself! Bow-Boy-Butt-Shaft, is another name for Shakespeare's Inspiration, which you havn't got because your Pineal ands Pitruitry gland's were fucked out of you well before you were 5 year's old, and that's why you've got the attitude of a half brained Dog, which isn't the opposite to God when your in the realm of the dead, shit for brains! The time has come for the Truth about Religion, man hasn't got any!

Okay bear with me and hear me out okay?
1.Matter can not evolve or create itself.
2.Matter had a beginning.
3.If matter had a beginning and yet matter can not create itself how was matter created?
4.Did it remain dormant for years,and then one day decided to start expanding?
5.It could not of done that as matter's only function is to constantly expand.
6.Since matter could not of remained dormant for a time and since matter can't create itself and since matter had a beginning, yet constantly expands AND since matter was the FIRST thing to come ito existence in OUR WORLD, what we can logically conclude is that matter was created by an entity not of our world but one of a different world.What we can conclude is that matter the first thing to come into existence in our world, matter which can not create itself, was created by an intelligent designer, a.k.a. GOD. In conclusionI think it is safe to say it is logically accurate to believe in a God- and believe it or not I came up with that all on my own.the balls in your court now Atheist's- Let's play.