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Chuck Jones
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 | 11:54 PM
or the monks heart in a piece of lead gutter piping becoming the Bruce heart, even Historic Scotland can be guilty of this, |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 | 11:56 PM
The Bruce heart was replaced in the book by the DOuglas heart. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 12:18 AM
Here's where Douglas and Bruce tie together:
When he died in 1329 his body was buried at Dunfermline. His heart was removed and taken on the Crusades by the Black Douglas (Sir James), who, just before he was killed in Moorish Spain, hurled it at the enemy.
The heart was recovered and taken back to Melrose Abbey where the new king, David II (Bruce's son), had asked for it to be buried. |
LaMa
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 01:18 AM
Goody goody goody! And where do the man in black enter into the story? They have to be in it!
Boo and I volunteer to play the love couple part in the movie. Me playing the initially sceptic scientist that suddenly smells he's onto something big. Has never been in love before but meets Boo, the seductive village librarian with a mania for fighting "the system" who want to know what ate her favourite nephew.
Alex can play the part of the young village cleric which joins the couple in their hunt for the truth.... Maybe Maegan can play the part of the tabloid journalist hunting for a scoop annd entering a platonic relationship with the cleric. |
Christophe Thill
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 02:09 AM
That's not even a tooth (look at the base). I suggest it's the pulled-out horn of a young deer, or perhaps a wild goat. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 02:52 AM
just before he was killed in Moorish Spain, hurled it at the enemy.
Take that!
*squelch*
:lol: |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:02 AM
Not like any deer I've shot or seen shot. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:05 AM
That's a strange thing to do considering where he wanted his heart taken to-Jerusalem. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:10 AM
http://www.robert-the-bruce.com/
It was Bruce's wish to go on a crusade against the Infidel, once Scotland was free, but he could not fulfil this pledge. Instead his heart was carried into battle in a leaden casket by James Douglas. Douglas died in battle hurling the casket into the heart of foe. It was brought back to Scotland by Sir Keith Graham of Gawliston and is now interred in Melrose Abbey. Bruce's remains are at peace in Dunfermline Abbey. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:18 AM
People who tear their heart out are dead within seconds. He wouldn't have power to throw it anywhere. Why don't you try for the money Boo? $100,000 is a good chunk of cash. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:20 AM
Or are you talking about Douglas? |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:24 AM
Here's the press release over here about the reward: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050516/lam136.html?.v=1 |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:41 AM
Are you now having a conversation with yourself?
I see that link says, basically, 'it's a fish'.
Well whoop de doo, there's a fish in a loch. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 09:48 AM
Yes certainly does look like half a polished crab claw. Strange how it took two U.S students about ten minutes to find evidense locals ahve never seen! |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 11:05 AM
What makes you think locals haven't found similar things? |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 11:08 AM
It's definately of the fish family |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 11:27 AM
What makes you think locals haven't found similar things? - Chuck Jones
Um, because Loch Ness is a tourist spot and people are making money off of the legend. Anyone finding evidence would almost certainly seek to profit off of it. While there are undoubtedly some altruistic inhabitants of the loch, I find it extremely unlikely that all these things, if they existed, would only found by those who seek no publicity or profit.
It's definately<font size = 2>(sic)</font size> of the fish family - Chuck Jones
Please explain why this is so. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 11:39 AM
So it's a fish.
You are aware of what a fish is, right? And a loch?
Ooooooh, spooky!
Chary, my point exactly. |
LaMa
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 12:05 PM
Its fishy, I agree.... |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 12:18 PM
Not if what they found would blow the lid off the "friendly Nessie" myth that's been flowing around for centuries. I think when people learn they can be food, they may stay away. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 12:30 PM
doubtful. my hometown had it's own "seamonster", and the lake was packed every summer. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 12:31 PM
'friendly Nessie'.
:lol:
As if, when you whistle, Nessie pops up and you can give it a pat on the head and feed it breadcrumbs.
'learn they can be food'?
Because there's so many reports of mysterious disappearances around there. Y'know since it's been there since the 1930s and all.
Let me guess. There's a cover up? A conspiracy? |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 12:32 PM
of course, Boo... :roll: |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 12:33 PM
Oooh, was it the freemasons?
They don't appear to be in on it yet... |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 01:40 PM
Freemasons were mentioned in the history website ot the Templar Nights. How many disappearances? The Discovery Channel is headed your way in search of the tooth and this new theory of what the creature might be. It'll be near the sturgeon, which is it's food until winter. That's when it heads ashore. It leaves a slime trail, much like a snail does. |
Charybdis
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 01:46 PM
Wow.
Wow.
Chuck scares me. |
Boo
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 01:58 PM
:lol:
He scares you?
Really?
With his made up stories and agenda to get us to buy the book?
And his lack of facts, or evidence or proof?
I note there's no arguments, either. |
Sam da man
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 02:32 PM
it looks alot like a horn of some kind of baby deer... and the term "water balif" cracks me up...sorry |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 02:50 PM
I'm not scary now, there was a time I was. I am not on here to sell books. Asa someone else on here pointed out, there are water bailiffs. They are the same as the Dept, of Natural Resourses over here. I haven't made up any stories. The list of people I posted on here believe it and many of them are at the top of their field. Boo, you're right there. If I were, I'd get that tooth and pocket $100,000. You'd have to leave your pC but it would be worth it. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 02:58 PM
1) Whatever you say.
2) You claimed to have to go and publicise them - and you've tried to tell us the only way to 'find the truth' is to buy the book.
3)I said. My bad, there is such a thing as water bailiffs. So what?
4) Prove these people believe it.
5) I do not live at Loch Ness. I never said I did. Howvever, I live one hell of a lot closer than you do, and I've been there many times. I'm not going to 'get that tooth', because I believe this whole thing is a hoax.
I would have to leave my PC, that's true, but since every time I come on, you've posted again, I'm hardly worried by your implied slur. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 03:03 PM
I've never seen a apike with a barb ot it. They've been dull in fact. This thing bit the deer in half. That's a good sized creature. The tooth in question is in the center of the upper roof of it's mouth. I'll post the relevance or what road construction had to do with this creature. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 03:07 PM
I thought you couldn't give details because they were 'copyrighted'... |
LaMa
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 03:08 PM
Is it a snail, is it an eel, is it a Knight Templar;....it is.....SuperNessieeeeeeeeeee!!!! |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 03:42 PM
The tooth is out there! |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 03:57 PM
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3096839.stm">"We went from shoreline to shoreline, top to bottom on this one, we have covered everything in this loch and we saw no signs of any large living animal in the loch,"</a>
Obviously a conspiracy. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 04:28 PM
There's absolutely no way that this could be a tooth. A tooth must be straight, or slightly curved. But with a hook-shaped tip, never! How would the point pierce the prey's hide without breaking?
And what animal could carry, in its mouth, a tooth so sharp that you can't handle it without cutting your hand (dixit the Web site)? How could it avoid hurting its own mouth?
And what are these lateral barbs? Some flesh-eating animals have serrated teeth... but not with such large barbs.
And why the hell is the end black?
Well... imagine all the possible animals (from anywhere in the world) who could have eaten this deer. Bear... tiger... crocodile... tyrannosaur... killer whale... OK. Now think of their teeth. Pointed, yes, but thick and strong. Not long and thin.
Now, as for what it might really be... I'd still vote for a horn. Chamois have thin, hook-shaped horns. I don't think they live in the Scottish highlands, but who knows... |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 04:37 PM
People probably breed them... |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 04:53 PM
The book is fiction but makes a whole lot more sense than a pleasaur. I'm saying read the book, whether you buy it or check it out from the library. I believe you'd enjoy it, since you're on this blog. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 04:55 PM
I didn't post that. Someone whose either read the book or guessed what these lake mosters are like I did and a few friends did. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 04:59 PM
We're not saying it's a 'pleasaur'.
We're saying that it doesn't exist.
This blog, and forum (which, incidentally, you're on, rather than the blog) is about HOAXES! |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:01 PM
As dark as the loch is, you wouldn't see it until it was too late. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:25 PM
:lol:
Fantastic... |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:38 PM
Chuck, did you just admit that the book is fiction? So you're only here to promote it? If you're a kook who believes in Nessie, you're welcome to stay. But if you're just some kind of hack here to sell the book, frell off. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 05:57 PM
Someone wondered if an eel could have a row of teeth along the roof of it's mouth. This is from a website on Morray eels:
The large, sharp teeth are arranged in single rows in both jaws and also in a row along the roof of the mouth. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 06:22 PM
Yes, it's fiction. All of his books have been fiction based on fact. Many well known people think Steve may have actually figured out what is in the loch. He's been on shows with an audience of over a million people, do you think I'd be on here with maybe 10 people trying to promote his book? LOL-I don't think so. I'm just showing you that these things you say can't exist...can. Take the tooth with the barb on the end of it. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 06:24 PM
Bathysaur (Bathysaur or Lizardfish),Davidson Seamount, Pacific Ocean. Silvery, elongate body, with an adipose fin toward tail and the head flattened and teeth curved and barbed in a long, lizard-like mouth, living in Atlantic and Pacific Ocean, usually below 5,400 ft or 1,646 m.
Images courtesy of NOAA and MBARI
High-resolution image
This creature has barbed teeth. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 06:25 PM
BTW, I don't believe in "Nessie". Nessie's a guppy compared to what's down there. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 11:25 PM
Just out of curiosity, if anyone who comes across this thing wouldn't stop running until they hit Ireland, how can the locals and the water bailiffs be hiding the evidence?
Is there perhaps some form of ultra bravery balm(tm) they slap on each morning like sunscreen? |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 | 11:29 PM
Because they are the locals. They'd be used to the strange unidentified beastie (if it does exist). |
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 02:43 AM
Many well known people think Steve may have actually figured out what is in the loch.
Prove it.
He's been on shows with an audience of over a million people, do you think I'd be on here with maybe 10 people trying to promote his book?
Yes. You are. None of the 'million people' buy the book, eh?
Book not selling too well? I hear schlock horror doesn't tend to. |
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 02:46 AM
BTW, I don't believe in "Nessie". Nessie's a guppy compared to what's down there.
You say there's a monster in Loch Ness. Hence, it would be 'The Loch Ness Monster'. Which is what 'Nessie' is short for.
:roll:
If you can't even grasp that... |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 06:57 AM
This is a nocternal hunter. Winter would be the most dangerous time also because the sturgeon head out to the ocean. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 07:01 AM
I sent you a partial list of people earlier of cryptozoologists, marine biologists and museum curators. The ones who put up the $100,000. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 07:03 AM
It's selling good for being out only a week. The Discovery Channel is doing a show on it. |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 07:05 AM
Nessie is the pleasaur that people want to believe exists down there. This is no pleasaur. |
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 07:38 AM
Chuck, you are so out of your league! Boo is going to fry you up and have you for dinner and then she will feed the scraps to Nessie! |
Chuck Jones
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 08:16 AM
After speaking to TV, radio and newspaper people all day Boo doesn't worry me one bit. |
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 08:38 AM
I think that's because she uses logic and that just bounces off of Chuck.
Oops. Not my argument. I wonder where Scott is. |
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 09:18 AM
Just for the record; isn't it supposed to be a plesiosaur instead of a pleasaur/ |
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 | 10:21 AM
No Chuck, you haven't proved a thing. You've made a lot of claims with no evidence.
I'm going to say this one more time.
'Nessie' is the affectionate nickname for the myth of what is called 'The Loch Ness (see where the Nessie bit comes from?) Monster.
Whatever it is that gullible people with no sense of logic believe is the monster in the Loch. You say that the monster in the Loch isn't a 'pleasaur'. Fine. It is still the (fictional) monster in the Loch. Hence, Loch Ness Monster.
Again I say that if you can't grasp that, it's unsurprising that your ability to use logic is nonexistant. |
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