The Museum of Hoaxes
Not One Damn Dime Day
Posted By:
Rain Oubliette
Dec 20, 2004
 In the spirit of the burning a candle for solidarity hoax, I recently received the following in my email. Thought I'd share it with everyone; though I have no idea how it would attract the government's attention.

turn your back on the economy!!! Please share this email with as many people as possible...we can protest with our spirit!!!

<b>NOT ONE DAMN DIME DAY</b>
Since our religious leaders will not speak out against the war in Iraq, since our political leaders don't have the moral courage to oppose it, Inauguration Day, Thursday, January 20th, 2005 is "Not One Damn Dime Day" in America.

On "Not One Damn Dime Day" those who oppose what is happening in our name in Iraq can speak up with a 24-hour national boycott of all forms of consumer spending.

During "Not One Damn Dime Day" please don't spend money. Not one damn dime for gasoline. Not one damn dime for necessities or for impulse purchases.

Not one damn dime for anything for 24 hours.

On "Not One Damn Dime Day," please boycott Walmart, KMart and Target. Please don't go to the mall or the local convenience store. Please don't buy any fast food (or any groceries at all for that matter).

For 24 hours, please do what you can to shut the retail economy down.

The object is simple. Remind the people in power that the war in Iraq is immoral and illegal; that they are responsible for starting it and that it is their responsibility to stop it.

"Not One Damn Dime Day" is to remind them, too, that they work for the people of the United States of America, not for the international corporations and K Street lobbyists who represent the corporations and funnel cash into American politics.

"Not One Damn Dime Day" is about supporting the troops. The politicians put the troops in harm's way. Now 1,200 brave young Americans and (some estimate) 100,000 Iraqis have died. The politicians owe our troops a plan -- a way to come home.

There's no rally to attend. No marching to do. No left or right wing agenda to rant about. On "Not One Damn Dime Day" you take action by doing nothing. You open your mouth by keeping your wallet closed.

For 24 hours, nothing gets spent, not one damn dime, to remind our religious leaders and our politicians of their moral responsibility to end the war in Iraq and give America back to the people.
Category: Email-Hoax, Money; Replies: 234

Comments
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One Fry Short
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 06:03 PM
A little late bringing this up again, but anyone help me out here with this "symbolic" fart deal? I mean, ain't a fart a bit like being pregnant? (no disrespect meant to the better gender) Either it exists or it don't. If it's truly symbolic, i.e., a robust whoopee cushion sound absent any trace of odure, then as a symbol it's meaningless and simply gives strength to the questionable antianachronistically nonholistic amplitude resiliency arguments (which, incidentally, we're more than amply refuted by the Duke University Parabnormal Department of Amoebic Dysentery in their widely noted 1934 through 1981 study of inner city landfills) of Hairy Houdini's adherents and the Bush Family Evil Empire. Which also leads me to question that deal where we had prisoners "simulate" oral sex. How exactly do you simulate that? Thank God and w that we're a Christian nation and our gestapo would never get confused on the difference between having unconstituionally held people in our secret torture chambers perform "simulated", or real, oral sex, for their (the torturors, not the torturees) enjoyment and videocamming. As the ancient Latino poet Virgin said so well one hundred score years ago, "En vita no est esperanza por nada sine hempa"
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 06:13 PM
Loco vida con hempa... Mi vida es perfecto con mi amor y el sol
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 06:15 PM
locA... pardone moi
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 06:24 PM
A fart was used as symbol, not a fake fart.
Buzz Worthy
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 06:32 PM
If you were trapped on a desert island and had to choose between having a symbolic fart, a real fart, or a fake fart for your only company, would "W" still be the worst president we've ever had?
One Fry Short
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 06:35 PM
Rex D. I mention no names but people can be reported. A word to the wise.
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 06:43 PM
What are you saying? Because I pointed something out that your mad at me? Isn't that the whole point of a thread? To discuss? I was simply making a correction. How can you misconstrue that?
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 06:45 PM
A word to the wise, that sounds like a threat. Is that tolerated in forums?
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 06:55 PM
The symbolism of the effort is best explained by this passage by the late, great, Italian poet(ess) Stella D'oro: "I wondered then, in the days of my youth, whether to fart in the church was rude or uncouth, but 'twas then that I knew, I must sit in my pew, or be in the confessional booth..." Brings tears to one's eyes
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 06:59 PM
Rex: I think our friend One Fry is suggesting that your avatar may be infringing on Mickey D's copyright. You MacIconBurglar, you
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 07:19 PM
Ah, well then hold on while I contact some people and straiten this out, because I was told I could, but I don't want to get in trouble if they were wrong. If thats what you were referring to OFS, then I take all that back.
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 07:25 PM
Do you have an image of a symbolic fart in church that is in public domain? No? Well, go to: http://www.symbolicfartsinchurchavatars.cmon Free Houdini with every purchase over L7
One Fry Short
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 07:56 PM
Rex D. Let's get one thing straight. Please. I am not making any sort of defamatory or slanderous remearks about you. When I said "People can be reported" , it was said in jest, not as a threat or insult. I have the highest respect for you as a poster and have read your thoughtfull essays and done my best to understand as best I can.
I do have a sense though, that you are being egged on in your angry pursuit of me by a third party. Do the initials HH mean anything to you?
Again, I make no accusations and accuse no one of anything. I don't know why one has to be so blooming lawyerly on these forums in fear of offending someone. Have you ever heard of the First Amendment?
Myst
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 07:57 PM
Here ya go Hairy, you could buy this....

http://www.smallurls.com/imj9g
Buzz Worth
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 08:03 PM
Harry: You almost fooled me with your imitation Italian poetess deal, but your last line didn't fit the rhyme scheme. No poetess in his right mind would use a recurring iambic pentameter conversion when gliding from internal stanza lines with unsupported hectametric inverts. Sorry, nice try, but no tickee, no laundry. Don't mean to hurt any one's feelings, but this so called "poem", wouldn't fool a day old Milwaukeean.
One Fry Short
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 08:09 PM
How about one of those bumper sticker deals that says I heart (you know, the little heart deal that looks like a valentine) farts? If you order them magnetic you can take them off and on, and put one on, like your bosse's car. I don't think they'd stick on a Saturn door though, cause they're made of plastic(the doors, not the bumper stickers). No offense to anyone who owns a Saturn.
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 08:10 PM
It 'twas more of a Limerick, which were quite popular in Italy some years back. Try it to the count of "There was a young lass from Nantucket..."
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 08:11 PM
Or: "Barnacle Bill The Sailor"...
Buzz Worthy
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 08:27 PM
I tried whistling it, plying it on the mandolin, humming, etc., and I can't make the durn (no offense meant) poem sound like it should. The closest I got was when I tried it to the last stanzas of the Star Spangled Banner, and then it didn't sound all that great, to tell you the truth. I am Irish and always thought limericks were Irish not Italian. Please note, I am NOT challenging anything you said, just making an observation that I may have thought was correct, when in point of fact, it was not.
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 08:47 PM
"Sorry, nice try... But No Tickee, No Laundry" That's Haiku, right? I thought Haiku was Japanese, not Irish. I'm confused... Do the Japanese fart in church? A sake and suchi SBD, as it were... Sit it that pew, if you dare
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 08:48 PM
Ahhhh! My humblest of apologies OFS. I believe that was an easily misenterpreted line. I take it you were referring to the avatar then?
One Fry Short
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 09:05 PM
FYI. The Japanese don't have churches. Churches are what Christians have. Most of your Asians have pagodas. I don't know why, but they just seem to like them better than churches. If you don't have a mental picture of one, you can always see what they look like by looking at the calendar in a Chinese restaurant. Some people get mixed up on this and think pagodas are those kind of temple deals you see on calendars in Mexican restaurants where there's an Indian guy holding a real pretty lady in front of a giant pyramid kind of temple deal with a long staircase from the bottom clear to the top where the Mexicans used to sacrifice their enemas. As to your claiming to be confucian, again, I will not challenge it, even if I have unexpressed doubts.
One Fry Short
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 09:08 PM
Thanks for laying down the axe, Rex. I come here to post, not get into vendettas. The last thing in the world I want is trouble. I accept your apology and have no intention of reporting you.
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 09:10 PM
There are christians in Japan. Those things are everywhere. They built churches with newly converted Japanese men. They don't look any different then they do here in the states.
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 09:11 PM
That is what you were referring to then, the avatar? Can I get in trouble for it?
One Fry Short
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 11:39 PM
I can only give you a non-professional answer on the avatar question. I had to leave law school in my final semester because of a misunderstanding between myself and the dean's secretary. Women scorned love nothing better than ruining the scorners life. I am now employed at the Octupus Carwash as swing shift assitant manager and actually glad that I am. The caviar life is shallow. You find true happiness in the simple things of life. If she and a few of her friends hadn't cooked up a bunch of phony stories about my behavior with them and had me disqualified to practice law, I may have gotten rich but I doubt if I would have been happy. Anyway, IMNPO, I think you should be OK. McDonald's would be pushing it to try to squeeze you on your use of the avatar. I don't think they could convince a jury of honest men and women beyond a reasonable doubt that your use of a parodic replica had any significant impact on their bottom line. You may want to check Mergatroid v. Snerd if you'd like a second opinion. Bottom line: I wouldn't sweat this thing or lose any sleep over it. And in the unlikely event that they do decide to pursue you, there is at least close to a fifty percent chance that you will at most pay a fine. It may cost you a "few" bucks 😊for fines and lawyers, but better that than the House of Many Keys. Final suggestion: better safe than sorry. Why don't you just quit using it. Why take a chance even if it's remote. You wouldn't stand under a tree in a lightning storm would you? It's your choice. Good luck.
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 11:40 PM
So, they do fart in church... The Divine Wind, to be sure
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 11:44 PM
I just asked the owner of the site I got it from, and he said that he got it from a public domain site and other people use it on his site. A nd he see's nothing wrong with me using it here as long as it's alright with Alex.Thanks for your input OFS
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 11:44 PM
I'm sorry. I hope that wasn't offensive to any nice Japanese readers out there. I preferred to stay on the subject of Italian limericks, myself, but One Bun made me do the Haiku. Mistakes were made, so don't get mad. Mea Bob Culpa
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 | 11:55 PM
I knew a Blues singer named One Bun Nappin. That dude liked limericks too, but he had a prosthetic iambic pentameter, and was prone to bouts of onomatopea. He was also allergic to chrysthanthamums, that's he avoided Haiku. You may find his Best Of album, "One Cheek Asleep" at garage sales, or on E-bay. It's a Must-Have for Church Farters everywhere. Bless Me Farter, for I have Not One Damn Dime.
Myst
Member
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 | 02:13 AM
No Comment...Just a link

about.com

I lied I do have a comment, I think Snopes would say the same thing.
Fringe Dweller
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 | 08:49 AM
Not One Damn Dime Day reminds me of Buy Nothing Day
tara there
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 | 01:04 PM
whenever a group of people do SOMETHING together to help move toward justice , it inspires the rest, it reminds us we do have a say, power, a right and a resposibility to not just complain about circumstanses but to actually DO something about them...so i not only support not a damn dime day, but say not a damn dime day plus one!!...t.
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 | 02:52 PM
Yes, but we are doing it for a political reason. They just want to stop over indulgence, which we as americans love to do. Super size it.
zenbetty
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 | 05:37 PM
hoax or not, i'm not gonna spend one damn dime on non-inauguration day! why don't you try it, and just not worry about if it's a hoax or not. what if worked?! ask yourselves spiritual questions about political subjects -- like why it is that we are all so stunned, shocked, dismayed about the 150,000 deaths in Asia from a tsunami but we don't seem to be bothered a bit about the over 100,000 civilian deaths - most of them women and children - which have resulted from our own invasion of Iraq?!

don't spend one damn dime. of course we want to do more, but start here. maybe they'll listen. maybe they'll see. maybe they won't. but it's got to stop, one way or another. so here's one way. then we'll try another.
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 | 06:23 PM
Nice. I agree with that. Hoax or not, who cares. Do it anyway. I do not want to get deployed to Iraq and fight a war I don't believe is right or justified, but will have to if ordered. But would not if I had a choice. I don't want to get shot in the head because baby Bush wants more oil.
Heather
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 | 07:56 PM
well, hairy. no one said you couldn't devote the time you're not shopping to lining the streets of washington with yourself and whatever else you think might give this some lift.

multitask, houdini, multitask.
ADBUSTER.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 | 09:53 PM
Its no hoax folks.
it is a continuation of the Ideas behind ADBUSTER's Buy Nothing Day.
Nor is it pointless.
We live in a society based on capitol and debt.
Consumption and planned obsolecence.
Can you prove to yourself that you are not a slave to consumption? a 24hour moratorium is all that is being asked. do you have the will power to stand and through your passivity make a statement to yourself if no one else? Ghandi once decided not to consume. can you? Can you prove it to your family to your city? to your state? to your cournty? to your world? what about to your credit card company? what about to the oil giants? The military industrial complex?

Not a hoax folks. this is the real deal.
Stand and count yourself out for a day.
Margaret
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 | 11:26 PM
The real test would be if we could do a consumer 'ban' for a month - - or more. Why not ban any non-essential purchases for a month? Why not reduce non-essential purchases significantly FOREVER? I've lived in other countries that are not so 'consumer' oriented, and there's such joy in the simple pleasures of life and MUCH less competition for the 'cool' image through things - - be cool through actions instead!
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 | 11:40 PM
I like that. Europe's a lot like that. I've lived all over Europe and they don't over-do everything like we do. They don't even have gallons of milk, at least not that I saw. McDonalds is the only place with a super-size it thing going on.
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 | 08:34 AM
The Bigger The Burger The Better The Burger The Burgers Are Bigger At Burger King. It takes two hands, to handle a Whopper, the two-fisted burger at Burger King. SUV's, Wal-Mart SUPERCenters, 7-11s Pig Gulp sodas, BIG is Amurrica, Ammurrica is BIg. Cripes, our Pres. is from Texas, where, "everything's bigger". My brother lives in New Jersey. When he came to visit over the Holidays I made him walk downtown with me for a two-mile walk. He hated it. Even though we were on sidewalks the entire time, he said that the only people who walk in New Jersey are people with DUI convictions and bums. Our culture has been taught for generations to love Petroconsumption. It started in the 50's when they began to build the interstate highway system and dismantle the railroads. I blame IKE. (Not Ikea, Paul. Ike. Dwight David Eisenhower, who later had a fit of conscience and warned us about the military-industrial complex. Instead of I like IKE, howzabout I LIKE BIKES?
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 | 04:16 PM
Here is some Pro-NODDD and Anti-NODDD stuff I came across.

"Not one damn dime day"

There's some email spam going around promoting some idea called "not one damn dime day."

Not only is it spam, but it's patently Marxist-Leninist and it makes me sick to my stomach.

If you're opposed to the war in Iraq, there are lots of things you can do to voice your displeasure. Everything from a bumper sticker to your vote.

Here's my take on "not one damn dime day" that I posted to the wnycoalition4progress Yahoo Group:


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Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 | 05:08 PM
I'd suggest a "Buy American-Made Goods Only Day", but it would still be the same as "NODDD", because nothing is made in America. (Don't correct me- I know that's an over-generalization. I'm just trying to display my point, which is easy if I take my hat off.)
Hairy Houdini
Member
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 | 08:20 PM
I think that NODDD may just be a case of asking a large group of Americans to use muscle to get a point across, the very overused and well-developed muscle of American Consumerism. That's a Big Stick. BUT, and it's a BIG but, I also agree with most of you who suggest that it may have little or no effect on the economy. The act is symbolic, and may even entail a little self-sacrifice. It needs a bit of fine-tuning, though, in light of the recent disaster needs in Asia, in my opinion. It would be nice to give a crap rather than take a crap, so to speak. I don't blame anyone for trying any symbolic (and legal) act to show displeasure with our Gov., but I'd hate to see any effort with real potential for change to be watered down by more inane efforts. That's why I still call for GWB EATS DEAD RATS DAY under the ASSES UNEQUALLED banner, but you all seem to have little or no opinion on those suggestions. Hey- more Dead Rats and Asses for me.
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 | 09:55 PM
Well, what exactly do you suppose is going to be the outcome of this saying that it works and makes an impact on our government? Do you think it's going to be a big change or more of a minor differenceor do you think there won't be any change at all?

And Hairy, I'm with you on GWB Eats Dead Rats Day under the Asses Unequalled banner.
Myst
Member
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 | 03:17 PM
snopes.com has commented on this e-mail. They have said what I figured they would say.

My opinion is pretty much the same (see my first post in this thread). Basically I say, if you want to participate in this by all means do so, but do not expect much to happen because of it. There just hasn't been enough publicity generated to turn too many political power heads.

My personal opinion is that if you want your voice heard take the time and send letters to your various congressmen/women. Your time would be much better spent in this way.

Ok off my soap box now.

Here is the link to snopes.com's opinion on Not One Damn Dime Day
Easter Lemming Liberal News
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 | 05:40 PM
<strong>Not One Damn Dime Day</strong>

Because of the illegal and immoral Iraq War which has cost thousands of lives and tens of billions of American taxpayer dollars,

Because of the illegal suppression of the right to vote of many Americans on November 2nd, 2004,

Because of the politicians who show they value corporations over American citizens,

Because of the environmental, fiscal, and civil liberty damages of this administration and the danger to the American system of Constitutional government and the rule of science, reason and law,

<strong>I am hereby giving notice I will not spend any money or make any monetary transactions on January 20, 2005.</strong>

If you are the employee or owner of any institution make the appropriate plans.

If you are part of an institution that I feel is not in any way responsible for this situation know that I am only delaying purchases.

If you are part of an institution that I know is part of the problem know that a contribution to what I feel is a responsible charitable, educational or political group has been made with the money I save and that I plan on reducing future purchases.

<strong>If you have received this message, please join in and pass this on.</strong>

Might be gathering steam...
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
 Member
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 | 09:34 AM
...sigh. As nice as this all seems, I've already taken my vacation days, I get paid the 20th...we'll need food, gas, & I have to get a potty-training seat for my daughter's birthday. (She's not getting toys, she's getting a potty-seat, shoes, & training pants.) Also, I'll be paying the sitter (my 16 yr old sister), who will be cashing her check & heading off to to buy MP3 players, cds, bombs, or whatever else it is kids buy now-a-days. In effect, I will actually be contributing to my sister's consumerism, b/c we also just gave her a raise. $20/day. (It actually only equals out to about $2/hour.) I don't like war, but we should support our troops. I think the disaster in Asia is terrible...but it stinks that I kept hearing translations on the news, just a day after the Tsunami about people wondering where their American help was. Screw them all! Every time we step in to 'help' someone gets pissy about fat, loud, obnoxious America showing their strength. So, when we DON'T help, everyone hates us because American's are fat, loud, & obnoxious. Well Pisser, I think I'll just go live in the damn mud. My husband and I break our backs to make sure we have a place to live, food to eat, & clothes on our backs...I'm gonna spend my money whenever I feel like it!

(Although, I might add, not HOWEVER I feel like it...b/c I'd LIKE to have some new clothes, but I think it's probably in my best interest to pay the rent & electric first.)

...and before I get a hundred flaming posts back, I'm really playing Devil's Advocate here. Don't read too much into it.
Smiling Mo
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 | 01:36 PM
Many folks out there actually own small parts of big businesses that owe their considerable success to policies of coercion, usury, eco-rapacity and outright terrorism. I imagine there are many small shareholders out there with little squeaking voices of conscience, gradually getting a little louder. January 20 might be a good day to make these squeaky voices heard. South Africa's racist government was overturned largely by the pressure of international investors. Of course, as somebody noted earlier in this thread, liberals already avoid walmart. But on the other hand, I got the NODDD email from a Texan suburbanite friend who has until recently been a loyal walmart shopper! The value of doing something in unison is that with a crowd, you can make a bigger crowd. Let's think carefully about doing what will work, but in the meantime, let's remember to do SOMETHING.
Smiling Mo
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 | 01:50 PM
PS.
the more that people do, the better of course.
Staying home and drinking would be fun, but going to work and sabotaging a corporate transaction might be even better.
Here is a good site about things to do on 1/20.
http://www.black-thursday.com/home.html
zenbetty
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 | 06:17 PM
at LEAST please do NOT buy gas on jan 20, maegan & all. ride your bike, skip to work, carpool, stay at home...
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 | 07:52 PM
Skip to work. I like that one. I'm going to try that.
MrTitanium
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 | 10:18 AM
It seems to me that a scheduled and highly publicized week of buying no
gasoline would be a stronger message and quite a bit more to the point. If
you can't schedule a week without buying gas, then you're part of the
problem anyway.
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
 Member
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 | 10:53 AM
I found that skipping in the dark tends to give me bloody knees. I guess I'm just contributing to the problem then. I feel like I've worked really hard just to have the little bit that I have. I'm REALLY angry that I can't buy a home in the town where I grew up. I was thinking of writing a letter & expressing my outrage, but I couldn't find a pen. I don't like the way the things work right now, but I feel like if I stop doing what I'm doing for <i>just</i> a little bit, that I'll get so behind I'll never catch up. I'd really like to prove a point & stick it Big Brother...I don't have the time. It's really American of people to boycott things & use their free speech amendmant to their advantage..I'm just so weary of it all. There are thousands of 'alliances', 'groups', 'unions' for things that I just don't have the time to fight for. I'm busy trying to raise my little girl, trying to be a good mom & a good wife. If I have to do errands on Thursday so that I can play with my daughter on Friday...that's what I'm doing. Give my liberty or give me death as become...Give my liberty...if you want to, b/c I don't have the time to deal with this.

It's all a bit disheartening.
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
 Member
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 | 10:55 AM
...sorry about all the typos...I'm flipping back and forth between a few things & didn't notice.
Smiling Mo
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 | 11:59 AM
Maegan,
we can all understand where you are coming from. Conscience makes demands on us that seem unreasonable. Sacrifice is no fun. That's why in our society individuals that accede to the demands of conscience are considered heroes. You know, like the 33-year-old Jesus, or Martin Luther King II, or that kid who blew himself up last week in the name of his homeland's security. How much should you sacrifice of your life? It is entirely up to you. No need to try and justify your actions to us other human beings. Don't sweat it Maegan. By the way, to mark the inescapable necessity of sacrifice in life, the Muslims are getting ready to celebrate their holiday of Eid, the day that God told Abraham to kill his son. That crazy nut Abraham was about to do it, too. He was the guy that started the whole thing--Judaism, Christianity, Islam.
see http://www.shalomctr.org/index.cfm/action/weblog/mode/permalink/wb_entry/20.html
A possible response: since these three monotheistic religions have evidently caused so much trouble in history, it maybe that the real God wants us to NOT act like Abraham, rather wants us to tell him, "Fuck you God, you aren't going to take my son!" Problem is, the Gods take your son when They damn well please.
Rex D.
in Milwaukee, WI
 Member
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 | 03:28 PM
Maegan, you do not have to justify yourself. It's OK. Anybody who thinks everybody can and will do this thing is a dillusional fool. Tha just won't happen. People have resonsibilities that rise above a demonstration, like a family, mainly the children. Also, this is America, land of the super-sizers. We over do, and consume unnecessary amounts of everything because we want to. These very people are not going to give up that retarded priviledge. There will be billions of people going to work, gambling, going to the bar, buying groceries, putting gas in there car, whatever they want to do to have fun and whatever they need to do to survive. If any one person downs another because they either can't, or simply choose not to participate should stop breathing. Thought I'd throw that one in there for fun.
joe l
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 | 04:08 PM
having a jazz funeral for democracy - well this is what we're doing in new orleans on that day - as someone commented, everyday is not a damn dime day for me, and especially i never go to walmart, target, etc. buy local if you can 😊

come on down for the funeral, and stay for Mardi Gras!
Laura
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 | 06:13 AM
We are getting organized with the protest. You can sign the petition at our web site.
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
 Member
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 | 10:35 AM
=o) Well then, I have a giftcard for Disney store, I think I'm going to stop in on the 20th & see if there isn't an adorable new outfit for her. Clothes for babies, made by babies. (That was a joke folks!)
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